[Hare Rama Krishna] Chart with Venus, Jupiter and Lagna Lord in 7th

July 31, 2001

HARE RAMA KRISHNA

Dear Ash!

Here are my few lines on your chart on the 7th.

Though Venus is placed in the 7th should indicate, more passion, this will

be directed towards more on a sattwa side as this happens in Sag, the

Devaguru's house. The placement of Devaguru Jup. also directs the passion

towards dharma. The combination of Lagna and 10th lord also shows you will

do your work with devotion and ethiclity. You will rise in the life with

your own effort.

Moreover, Ketu aspects the same from the Lagna. Ketu always curbs the

passion and Mercury also curbs venus's passion is in the 7th.

In the navamsa, you have Ketu in the 2nd from the Lagnamsa, so the Venus's

passion is curbed there too.

2nd from the karakamsa is aspected by both Mercury and Venus. This shows

that even you have inherent tendency to be sexually passionate, this is

curbed by aspect of Mercury and hence, there is negligible chance of its

manifestation.

However, there are some more points to note. There is a beautiful rajayoga

due to combination of AK Jupiter and PK Venus in the Rasi chart in the

7th aspected by PiK Moon from the lagna. This yoga is sure to fructify as

the dispositor is the Atmakaraka himself, placed in his own house being

Vargottama. Thats really great...

Does Ketu in 2nd gave any problem to your speech? Just enquiring!!!!

Need not worry. Venus in seventh can do no harm to you as the planets are

staying in Devaguru's house.

Anyway do you know what are the indications of placement of Lagna lord in

the 7th?

Regards

Sarajit

On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Zoran and Gary,

>

> I have the combination of Lagna (Gemini) lord (mercury) (AmK), Venus

> (PK) and Jupiter (AK) along with Rahu (GK) in the 7th (Sag). The

> above are aspected by Ketu and moon from lagna (Gem).

> Rahu and Ketu are debilitated and Jupiter and Mercury are Combust.

> I am attaching my chart.

>

> Your Sisya,

> Ash

>

> Date of Birth: January 17, 1973

> Time of Birth: 5:17:00 pm

> Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT

> Longitude of Birth: 72 E 50

> Latitude of Birth: 18 N 58

> Lunar month (maasa): Pushya

> Lunar day (tithi): Sukla Chaturdasi

> Tithi balance: 0.5959

> Nakshatra balance: 0.4050

> Sun-Moon Yoga: Vaidhriti

> Sun-Moon Karana: Garija

> Vara (weekday): Wednesday

>

> Sunrise = 7:15 am (Apparent rise - upper limb)

> Ayanamsa = 23-29-7

> Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days

>

> Planet Position Pada CharaK

>

> Ascdt 19 Ge 58 Aardra 4 -

> Sun 3 Cp 45 U.Shaa. 3 DK

> Moon 14 Ge 36 Aardra 3 PiK

> Mars 18 Sc 41 Jyeshtha 1 MK

> Mercury 26 Sg 28 Poo.Shaa. 4 AmK

> Jupiter 28 Sg 10 U.Shaa. 1 AK

> Venus 13 Sg 37 Poo.Shaa. 1 PK

> Saturn ® 20 Ta 49 Rohini 4 BK

> Rahu 22 Sg 53 Poo.Shaa. 3 GK

> Ketu 22 Ge 53 Punarvasu 1 -

> BhavaLg 3 Ge 41 Mrigasira 4 -

> HoraLg 4 Sc 04 Anuradha 1 -

> GhatiLg 5 Aq 11 Dhanishtha 4 -

> Dhooma 17 Ta 05 Rohini 3 -

> Vyati 12 Aq 54 Satabhisham 2 -

> Pari 12 Le 54 Makha 4 -

> I.Chapa 17 Sc 05 Jyeshtha 1 -

> Upaketu 3 Sg 45 Moola 2 -

> Kaala 6 Ta 01 Krittika 3 -

> Mrityu 16 Ge 01 Aardra 3 -

> ArthaPr 2 Cp 30 U.Shaa. 2 -

> YamaGha 25 Cp 10 Dhanishtha 1 -

> Mandi 0 Ar 12 Aswini 1 -

> Gulika 17 Pi 05 Revathi 1 -

>

> +----------------------+

> | | | | |

> | | | | BL Moo |

> | Glk | Mnd | SatR | |

> | | | | Asc Ket |

> | | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | GL | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------| R A S I |-------------|

> | | | |

> | Sun | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | | |

> | Ven Rah | HL | | |

> | | | | |

> | Mer Jup | Mar | | |

> | | | | |

> +----------------------+

>

> +----------------------+

> | | | | |

> | | Mnd | | |

> | Asc | | | |

> | | Ket | | |

> | | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | Moo | | |

> | | | SatR |

> | Sun | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | HL |

> | | | |

> | | | Ven |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | Mar | BL | | |

> | | | | |

> | Jup | Mer | Rah | |

> | | | | |

> | Glk | GL | | |

> +----------------------+

>

> Vimsottari Dasa:

>

> Rahu 1973-01-17 Venu 1973-11-19 Sun 1976-11-19 Moon 1977-10-14

> Mars 1979-04-15

> Jupi 1980-05-02 Satu 1982-06-20 Merc 1985-01-01 Ketu 1987-04-08

> Venu 1988-03-14

> Sun 1990-11-13 Moon 1991-09-02 Mars 1992-12-31

> Rahu 1993-12-07

> Satu 1996-05-02 Merc 1999-05-06 Ketu 2002-01-13 Venu 2003-02-22

> Sun 2006-04-23

> Moon 2007-04-05 Mars 2008-11-04 Rahu 2009-12-13

> Jupi 2012-10-19

> Merc 2015-05-03 Ketu 2017-09-28 Venu 2018-09-25 Sun 2021-07-26

> Moon 2022-06-02

> Mars 2023-11-01 Rahu 2024-10-28 Jupi 2027-05-18

> Satu 2029-08-23

> Ketu 2032-05-02 Venu 2032-09-28 Sun 2033-11-28 Moon 2034-04-05

> Mars 2034-11-04

> Rahu 2035-04-02 Jupi 2036-04-19 Satu 2037-03-26

> Merc 2038-05-05

> Venu 2039-05-02 Sun 2042-09-01 Moon 2043-09-01 Mars 2045-05-02

> Rahu 2046-07-02

> Jupi 2049-07-02 Satu 2052-03-02 Merc 2055-05-02

> Ketu 2058-03-02

> Sun 2059-05-02 Moon 2059-08-20 Mars 2060-02-18 Rahu 2060-06-25

> Jupi 2061-05-20

> Satu 2062-03-08 Merc 2063-02-18 Ketu 2063-12-26

> Venu 2064-05-01

> Moon 2065-05-02 Mars 2066-03-02 Rahu 2066-10-01 Jupi 2068-04-01

> Satu 2069-08-01

> Merc 2071-03-02 Ketu 2072-08-01 Venu 2073-03-02

> Sun 2074-11-01

> Mars 2075-05-02 Rahu 2075-09-28 Jupi 2076-10-16 Satu 2077-09-22

> Merc 2078-10-31

> Ketu 2079-10-29 Venu 2080-03-26 Sun 2081-05-26

> Moon 2081-10-01

>

> varahamihira, ahimsa@p... wrote:

> > Dear Gary,

> >

> > > Zoran,

> > >

> > > I will artfully dodge the implications of your very last

> statement, which I

> > > might erroneously take as an insult or a compliment, since I am

> not sure

> > > what was meant by it!

> > >

> >

> > It wasn't certainly an insult, Gary,

> >

> > >

> > > The major problem that I have is usually that Sukra seems to be

> perceived as

> > > capable of doing no good, of having no spiritual nature, of

> solely being

> > > connected with sex and passion, etc. So when sins are assessed,

> Sukra is

> > > blamed, regardless of other factors in the chart.

> > > It is viewed as a benefic planet in the Vedas, the possessor of

> high

> > > spiritual knowledge, and as a guru planet (although a Guru planet

> for the

> > > " other side " ).

> > > Although I concur that it is connected with passion, passion has

> many forms

> > > and is not just sexual in nature. It has rulership over music,

> art, the " 64

> > > arts " etc. and is a child of sage Bhrigu and is the planet of

> priests. It

> > > seems to receive little or no respect on the list, in my humble

> opinion.

> > > Personally, I have seen many people engage in very spiritual

> practices

> > > during Venus bhuktis and mahadasas. It is not soley a sensual

> planet.

> > >

> >

> > I never thought of venus being malefic. Neither did I notice this

> in Sanjay's

> > teachings.

> > Actually Parashara says that Venus is the most benefic. Venus rules

> pleasures

> > and happiness, and if afflicted, life pleasure is gone. In the

> highest form, it

> > rules ananda, or bliss, recognized in Sat Chit Ananda

> Transcendental awareness.

> > I somewhere read that the root word of Shukra, comes from Suchi

> which means

> > light and purity, correct? Venus is also exalted in Guru's sign,

> pisces, the

> > sign of sages. Venus rules senses, and when dignified, senses are

> highly

> > cultered. Venus rules sukha, and happiness, so it is of the utmost

> importance.

> > Venus is a Brahmin by caste, so it rules scriptural knowledge.

> However one

> > cannot say that it gives the same tipe of vibrations as Guru. Venus

> is till

> > Asura teacher, It will imbibe the senses, and make person lost in

> artistic

> > impression. It enjoyes in sensual impressions like music, arts,

> while Guru

> > enjoys in meditation. It will pass through all sensual impressions,

> experience

> > them and ultimately seek Devine, while Guru will seek Devine

> through prayer and

> > meditation. Venus is the perfect Tapaswi when influenced by Saturn.

> So in no way

> > do we lessen the Venus role in the chart. However, it is not Graha

> of Primary

> > Spiritual knowledge. Surya, Guru and ketu tend to give Shiva Yoga,

> while

> > Chandra, Shukra and Rahu tend to give Laksmi Yoga. So Venus differs

> from guru.

> > However, one cannot say that Venus will not give Spiritual knowlege

> in the

> > chart. In my own chart, venus is exalted in kendra in involved in

> Tapaswi Yoga.

> > In Sanjay's chart, venus is in Swamsa, involved in Tapaswi Yoga. So

> there is no

> > question of Venus being incapable of giving spiritual knowledge.

> However, venus

> > alone, even in exaltation will not give spiritual knowldge, if now

> influenced by

> > saturn preferebly, or other factors.

> >

> > >

> > > And Zoran, one of the reasons that the lord of the first in the

> seventh is

> > > important for obsessing (or thinking) about sex is that the 1st

> house rules

> > > the person's perspectives--if the first lord is in the seventh,

> the person

> > > always puts his head in relationships! It is a very simple, basic

> > > interpretation...

> > >

> >

> > That is correct, but it still needn't give too much sexual

> enjoyments alone..

> > Thanks

> > Zoran

>

> OM TAT SAT

> Archive: varahamihira

> Files: varahamihira

> varahamihira/database

>

July 31, 2001

Dear Sarajit,

>

> Though Venus is placed in the 7th should indicate, more passion, this will

> be directed towards more on a sattwa side as this happens in Sag, the

> Devaguru's house. The placement of Devaguru Jup. also directs the passion

> towards dharma. The combination of Lagna and 10th lord also shows you will

> do your work with devotion and ethiclity. You will rise in the life with

> your own effort.

>

Guru tends to exalt venus that is why he keeps passion under control. However,

atma in 7th is alwyas a strong warning to keep the jatak out of superficial

sexual bonds, particularly in atma periods..

>

> Moreover, Ketu aspects the same from the Lagna. Ketu always curbs the

> passion and Mercury also curbs venus's passion is in the 7th.

>

Do note that Mercury promotes debilitation of venus and doesn't curb it but on

the conntrary when in trines to moon it gives loose morals, unless strong guru

curbs it.

>

> In the navamsa, you have Ketu in the 2nd from the Lagnamsa, so the Venus's

> passion is curbed there too.

>

This is a good point.

> 2nd from the karakamsa is aspected by both Mercury and Venus. This shows

> that even you have inherent tendency to be sexually passionate, this is

> curbed by aspect of Mercury and hence, there is negligible chance of its

> manifestation.

>

Do reconsider the role of Mercury

>

> However, there are some more points to note. There is a beautiful rajayoga

> due to combination of AK Jupiter and PK Venus in the Rasi chart in the

> 7th aspected by PiK Moon from the lagna. This yoga is sure to fructify as

> the dispositor is the Atmakaraka himself, placed in his own house being

> Vargottama. Thats really great...

>

Excellent point about atma and pitru yoga. However, never forget the role of

atmakarak

>

> Does Ketu in 2nd gave any problem to your speech? Just enquiring!!!!

>

Ketu in 2nd in navamsa should give prematurely graying hair and troubles in

self expression

>

> Need not worry. Venus in seventh can do no harm to you as the planets are

> staying in Devaguru's house.

>

What about atma? Guru is strong but it is badhakesh. Chandra as upapada lord

will have a prime say. Upapada is in 2nd house, which could give more than one

marriage/bonds. I will stop here..since I haven't taken closer look at the

chart..

BEst wishes,

Zoran

August 1, 2001

Dear Zoran!

I think there is little bit of difference in opinion with Mercury and

Passion. Mercury is a planet which say " No " to sex. This is a very Jolly

and happy to go planet, somewhat like childishness.

You might have remembered Pt. Sanjay wrote in COVA that Emerald is never

given to a newly married bride. Why? Because, it curbs the sexual passion

of the newly married couple.

Jupiter doesn't curb the passion completely, whereas it says " do it, but,

with moderation, for the fulfillment of the dharma " Thats why Venus is

exalted in Jupiter's house, where the passion is pure, as moderated by

Jupiter. Whereas I understand, Mercury says complete " NO " to the venus's

passion

Please think over this point and comment.

Pranaam

Sarajit

On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 ahimsa wrote:

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> >

> > Though Venus is placed in the 7th should indicate, more passion, this will

> > be directed towards more on a sattwa side as this happens in Sag, the

> > Devaguru's house. The placement of Devaguru Jup. also directs the passion

> > towards dharma. The combination of Lagna and 10th lord also shows you will

> > do your work with devotion and ethiclity. You will rise in the life with

> > your own effort.

> >

>

> Guru tends to exalt venus that is why he keeps passion under control. However,

> atma in 7th is alwyas a strong warning to keep the jatak out of superficial

> sexual bonds, particularly in atma periods..

>

> >

> > Moreover, Ketu aspects the same from the Lagna. Ketu always curbs the

> > passion and Mercury also curbs venus's passion is in the 7th.

> >

>

> Do note that Mercury promotes debilitation of venus and doesn't curb it but on

> the conntrary when in trines to moon it gives loose morals, unless strong guru

> curbs it.

>

> >

> > In the navamsa, you have Ketu in the 2nd from the Lagnamsa, so the Venus's

> > passion is curbed there too.

> >

>

> This is a good point.

>

> > 2nd from the karakamsa is aspected by both Mercury and Venus. This shows

> > that even you have inherent tendency to be sexually passionate, this is

> > curbed by aspect of Mercury and hence, there is negligible chance of its

> > manifestation.

> >

>

> Do reconsider the role of Mercury

>

> >

> > However, there are some more points to note. There is a beautiful rajayoga

> > due to combination of AK Jupiter and PK Venus in the Rasi chart in the

> > 7th aspected by PiK Moon from the lagna. This yoga is sure to fructify as

> > the dispositor is the Atmakaraka himself, placed in his own house being

> > Vargottama. Thats really great...

> >

>

> Excellent point about atma and pitru yoga. However, never forget the role of

> atmakarak

>

> >

> > Does Ketu in 2nd gave any problem to your speech? Just enquiring!!!!

> >

>

> Ketu in 2nd in navamsa should give prematurely graying hair and troubles in

> self expression

>

> >

> > Need not worry. Venus in seventh can do no harm to you as the planets are

> > staying in Devaguru's house.

> >

>

> What about atma? Guru is strong but it is badhakesh. Chandra as upapada lord

> will have a prime say. Upapada is in 2nd house, which could give more than one

> marriage/bonds. I will stop here..since I haven't taken closer look at the

> chart..

> BEst wishes,

> Zoran

>

> OM TAT SAT

> Archive: varahamihira

> Files: varahamihira

> varahamihira/database

>

August 1, 2001

Dear Sarajit,

>

> I think there is little bit of difference in opinion with Mercury and

> Passion. Mercury is a planet which say " No " to sex. This is a very Jolly

> and happy to go planet, somewhat like childishness.

>

I agree about the childish nature of budha. It is further rajastic graha, and

holds

debilitation of venus.

>

> You might have remembered Pt. Sanjay wrote in COVA that Emerald is never

> given to a newly married bride. Why? Because, it curbs the sexual passion

> of the newly married couple.

Or? It is a bastard child of the moon? Why would Jaimini write that budha and

chandra in trines give loose morals? There are many instances in both Jaimini

sutras

and Cova about the mercury. See Jaimini sutra page 387 of Sanjay Rath's

commentary:

" Mercury that causes debility of Venus (chastity) in virgo is the prime cause

of

loss of morals.. " Mercury should be influenced by Jupiter to give chastity when

related to 7th house.. Do read Sanjay's commnetary of 7th house.

Best wishes,

Zoran

August 1, 2001

Dear Sarajit and Zoran,

Pranam,

Sarajit, to answer your question, " about the significance of lagna

lord in 7th "

The significance of lagna lord in 7th is the fact that others and

spouce tend to dominate the person. Its given in COVA in the chapter

of 7th house.

Does it mean other things too?

Zoran mentioned about the role of AK (Jupiter in 7th in own house) in

this case. Yes, Zoran it is the lord of Badkesh but it also forms a

Hamsa yoga and is combust.

I remember reading your and guruji sanjays message thread exchanges

regarding the badkesh lord being combust by sun, which I may add was

very enlightening. Here sun is the 3rd lord. I do not know the

significance of it or what to make of it.

Badkesh lord being combust in some ways might be good.

Could you please give your explanation about this?

I also read Guruji Sanjays Post where he had explained the

manifestation of Hamsa yoga and when Jupiter is also the lord of

Badkesh.

Guruji had mentioned that Yes the Hamsa yoga will manifest in ways

where its results (prashad) will benefit someone else.

Now Jupiter being the Atmakaraka, and being Vargottam in Saggitarius

its mooltrikona sign, It would tend to punish severly and especially

being vargottam. It would tend to protect the native but also

punishment for past karma will be severe, and will guide me and

enlighten me.

please correct me if my understanding here is not correct regarding

the role of atma a question that you asked.

Coming to Mercury.

Mercury is the lagna lord and 4th lord, and it cant be bad for the

chart. It is combust though and it looses in the Graha yuddha to

Jupiter (AK) and is Amk. It is also the badkesh lord from AL and its

is combust again.

Could you also give your understanding for the badkesh lord being

combust from AL.

Coming to Venus.

Venus in the 7th makes me passionate in EVERYTHING I do and its for

truthful and righteous cause. For one Its very hard for me to

tolerate people who lie and are unjust or untruthful and people who

are wrong doers that just puts me off and I tend to ignore or move

away from such people and beleive me this force from within me is

very strong. And as it correctly pointed out I have had to do

everything on my own regarding career.

My opinion is that all planets will do their role good / bad for the

house but Atmakarak Jupiter will superwise and will not let any of

the significance of all the other 3 planets in 7th house (Mercury,

Rahu, Venus) go awry and will keep them under check and will let them

do the bad but in such a way that it will not affect the native

severly but AK will ensure that bad happens (punishment of AK) so

that it enlightens the native thus acheiving its purpose of being the

guiding force in the chart.

Coming to Rahu in the 7th house.

Rahu in the 7th house is not good as mentioned in COVA. Now Rahu is

also the lord of 9th house and in debilation and forms a chandala

yoga with Guru. I do not know what to make of it.

I have read the post of guruji regarding purohit and theif

explanation of this guru chandala yoga but its manifestation is

something that I still not have been able to decipher.

All my teachers have always been proud of me since my childhood,

never have let any one down, so this guru chandala yogas explanation

still eludes me. Rahu (9th lord) in debilitation with Guru in

mooltrikona and own house and being the AK.

This also makes another interesting situation.

It makes all the lords of Trines and Kendras in the 7th house.

Jupiter (AK) ruling 7th and 10th house in 7th,

Mercury (Amk) ruling lagna and 4th house in 7th

Venus (PK) ruling 5th house in 7th

Rahu (GK) colord of 9th house in 7th.

Please feel free to correct my mistakes in understanding.

Best Regards,

Your Shisya,

Ash

Manifestation of Yogas related to 7th house will happen later in life

thats my understanding. Yes PK and AK are together in 7th house

aspected by Pik, 10th from AL and 7th from VL. Moon is strong in the

chart but sun (DK) is placed in a dushtana being the lord of 3rd

house.

varahamihira, ahimsa@p... wrote:

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> >

> > I think there is little bit of difference in opinion with Mercury

and

> > Passion. Mercury is a planet which say " No " to sex. This is a

very Jolly

> > and happy to go planet, somewhat like childishness.

> >

>

> I agree about the childish nature of budha. It is further rajastic

graha, and holds

> debilitation of venus.

>

> >

> > You might have remembered Pt. Sanjay wrote in COVA that Emerald

is never

> > given to a newly married bride. Why? Because, it curbs the sexual

passion

> > of the newly married couple.

>

> Or? It is a bastard child of the moon? Why would Jaimini write that

budha and

> chandra in trines give loose morals? There are many instances in

both Jaimini sutras

> and Cova about the mercury. See Jaimini sutra page 387 of Sanjay

Rath's commentary:

> " Mercury that causes debility of Venus (chastity) in virgo is the

prime cause of

> loss of morals.. " Mercury should be influenced by Jupiter to give

chastity when

> related to 7th house.. Do read Sanjay's commnetary of 7th house.

> Best wishes,

> Zoran

August 1, 2001

Dear Sarajit and Zoran,

" Ketu in 2nd from Navamsa lagna causes premature graying of hair and

troubles in expressing oneself. "

This is true in my case as far as expressing oneself is concerned.

I am adding some comments in CAPS as Sarajit and Zoran Have pointed

out.

varahamihira, ahimsa@p... wrote:

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> >

> > Though Venus is placed in the 7th should indicate, more passion,

this will

> > be directed towards more on a sattwa side as this happens in Sag,

the

> > Devaguru's house. The placement of Devaguru Jup. also directs the

passion

> > towards dharma. The combination of Lagna and 10th lord also shows

you will

> > do your work with devotion and ethiclity. You will rise in the

life with

> > your own effort.

>

VERY TRUE. NEVERTHELESS I AM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT *ALL* MY

ENDEAVOURS I UNDERTAKE BE IT SO CAREER, FAMILY ETC.

I GUESS, GURU (AK) CHANNELS THE CREATIVITY AND PASSIONATE

CHARACTERISTICS OF VENUS, LAGNA LORD AND RAHU ALL BEING IN 7TH HOUSE

IN GURUS HOUSE WITH STRONG GURU IN ITS MOOLTRIKONA SIGN INTO

PERFORMING DHARMIC DUTIES (SAGGITARIUS).

>

> Guru tends to exalt venus that is why he keeps passion under

control. However,

> atma in 7th is alwyas a strong warning to keep the jatak out of

superficial

> sexual bonds, particularly in atma periods..

>

ZORAN AND SARAJIT, MY GURU (AK) PERIOD VIMSOTTARI DASA WAS FROM 1980

THRU 1996. IT WAS NOT ONE OF THE EASY PERIODS OF MY LIFE BUT ITS

BEEN THE MAJOR PERIOD FROM AGE 7 YEARS OLD THRU 23 YEARS OLD, WHICH

IS MOST OF MY ADOLOSCENCE YEARS, AND ITS TAUGHT ME A LOT, LOTS OF

BARRIERS CAME MY WAY REGARDING EDUCATION, FINANCES, HEALTH, WORK ETC

BUT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OVERCOME ALL AND HAVE EXCELLED IN ALL THE

ENDEAVOURS I HAD TAKEN AND I HAVE BEEN AND FELT LUCKY, AND HAVE FELT

PROTECTED AS THOUGH THERE IS A PROTECTIVE FORCE AROUND ME, ITS KINDA

HARD TO EXPLAIN, BUT IN THE END I HAVE ACHEIVED WHATEVER I HAD SET

OUT TO ACHEIVE BUT IT HAD NOT BEEN EASY AND THE LEARNING CURVE WAS

PRETTY STEEP. I ALSO DEVELOPED DEEP INTEREST IN ASTROLOGY IN THE

SAME PERIOD.

> >

> > Moreover, Ketu aspects the same from the Lagna. Ketu always curbs

the

> > passion and Mercury also curbs venus's passion is in the 7th.

> >

>

> Do note that Mercury promotes debilitation of venus and doesn't

curb it but on

> the conntrary when in trines to moon it gives loose morals, unless

strong guru

> curbs it.

>

> >

I THOUGHT THAT MERCURY IN TRINES TO MOON AND ASPECT OF JUPITER ON THE

SAME WAS TO BE LOOKED IN THE NAVAMSA FOR LOOSE MORALS.

> > In the navamsa, you have Ketu in the 2nd from the Lagnamsa, so

the Venus's

> > passion is curbed there too.

> >

>

> This is a good point.

>

> > 2nd from the karakamsa is aspected by both Mercury and Venus.

This shows

> > that even you have inherent tendency to be sexually passionate,

this is

> > curbed by aspect of Mercury and hence, there is negligible chance

of its

> > manifestation.

> >

>

> Do reconsider the role of Mercury

>

> >

> > However, there are some more points to note. There is a beautiful

rajayoga

> > due to combination of AK Jupiter and PK Venus in the Rasi chart

in the

> > 7th aspected by PiK Moon from the lagna. This yoga is sure to

fructify as

> > the dispositor is the Atmakaraka himself, placed in his own house

being

> > Vargottama. Thats really great...

> >

>

> Excellent point about atma and pitru yoga. However, never forget

the role of

> atmakarak

ALL THE LORDS OF TRINES AND KENDRAS ARE IN A KENDRA (7TH HOUSE).

I GUESS THE LORDS OF 9TH (RAHU), 12TH (VENUS) AND 7TH (JUPITER) ALL

CONJOINED IN 7TH HOSUE CAUSED ME TO MOVE TO TORONTO, CANADA FROM

BOMBAY, INDIA AS SOON AS THE AK'S VIMSOTTARI PERIOD ENDED, AND

SATURNS MAHADASA STARTED.

SO THE MANIFESTATION OF THE YOGAS WILL TAKE PLACE IN FAR AWAY LAND,

IS SO TRUE.

>

> >

> > Does Ketu in 2nd gave any problem to your speech? Just

enquiring!!!!

> >

>

> Ketu in 2nd in navamsa should give prematurely graying hair and

troubles in

> self expression

>

TRUE ABOUT SELF EXPRESSION.

> >

> > Need not worry. Venus in seventh can do no harm to you as the

planets are

> > staying in Devaguru's house.

> >

>

> What about atma? Guru is strong but it is badhakesh. Chandra as

upapada lord

> will have a prime say. Upapada is in 2nd house, which could give

more than one

> marriage/bonds. I will stop here..since I haven't taken closer look

at the

> chart..

> BEst wishes,

> Zoran

BEST REGARDS,

ASH

August 1, 2001

Dear Sarajit, Namaste.

Your abit off with Mercury. How can mercury say no to anyone?

Mercury is said to take on the characteristics of the planets influencing it.

And as Zoran allready pointed out, Mercury is the Bastard child of the planets.

Mercury doesn't curb the passions, but makes them more frivolous. Besides curbing the passions of a married couple isn't all that bad, unless it makes either unsatisfied.

Does anyone have any charts of Bi-sexuals. I would be interested in seeing Venus, Saturn and Mercury influencing the 2nd house in Navamsa.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Sarajit Poddar

varahamihira

Wednesday, August 01, 2001 6:09 AM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Chart with Venus, Jupiter and Lagna Lord in 7th

Dear Zoran!I think there is little bit of difference in opinion with Mercury andPassion. Mercury is a planet which say "No" to sex. This is a very Jollyand happy to go planet, somewhat like childishness. You might have remembered Pt. Sanjay wrote in COVA that Emerald is nevergiven to a newly married bride. Why? Because, it curbs the sexual passion of the newly married couple.Jupiter doesn't curb the passion completely, whereas it says "do it, but,with moderation, for the fulfillment of the dharma" Thats why Venus isexalted in Jupiter's house, where the passion is pure, as moderated byJupiter. Whereas I understand, Mercury says complete "NO" to the venus'spassionPlease think over this point and comment.PranaamSarajitOn Tue, 31 Jul 2001 ahimsa wrote:> Dear Sarajit,> > >> > Though Venus is placed in the 7th should indicate, more passion, this will> > be directed towards more on a sattwa side as this happens in Sag, the> > Devaguru's house. The placement of Devaguru Jup. also directs the passion> > towards dharma. The combination of Lagna and 10th lord also shows you will> > do your work with devotion and ethiclity. You will rise in the life with> > your own effort.> >> > Guru tends to exalt venus that is why he keeps passion under control. However,> atma in 7th is alwyas a strong warning to keep the jatak out of superficial> sexual bonds, particularly in atma periods..> > >> > Moreover, Ketu aspects the same from the Lagna. Ketu always curbs the> > passion and Mercury also curbs venus's passion is in the 7th.> >> > Do note that Mercury promotes debilitation of venus and doesn't curb it but on> the conntrary when in trines to moon it gives loose morals, unless strong guru> curbs it.> > >> > In the navamsa, you have Ketu in the 2nd from the Lagnamsa, so the Venus's> > passion is curbed there too.> >> >> > This is a good point.> > > 2nd from the karakamsa is aspected by both Mercury and Venus. This shows> > that even you have inherent tendency to be sexually passionate, this is> > curbed by aspect of Mercury and hence, there is negligible chance of its> > manifestation.> >> > Do reconsider the role of Mercury> > >> > However, there are some more points to note. There is a beautiful rajayoga> > due to combination of AK Jupiter and PK Venus in the Rasi chart in the> > 7th aspected by PiK Moon from the lagna. This yoga is sure to fructify as> > the dispositor is the Atmakaraka himself, placed in his own house being> > Vargottama. Thats really great...> >> > Excellent point about atma and pitru yoga. However, never forget the role of> atmakarak> > >> > Does Ketu in 2nd gave any problem to your speech? Just enquiring!!!!> >> > Ketu in 2nd in navamsa should give prematurely graying hair and troubles in> self expression> > >> > Need not worry. Venus in seventh can do no harm to you as the planets are> > staying in Devaguru's house.> >> > What about atma? Guru is strong but it is badhakesh. Chandra as upapada lord> will have a prime say. Upapada is in 2nd house, which could give more than one> marriage/bonds. I will stop here..since I haven't taken closer look at the> chart..> BEst wishes,> Zoran> > > > OM TAT SAT> Archive: varahamihira> Files: varahamihira> varahamihira/database> > >

August 1, 2001

Om Gurave Namah----Dear Sarajit,

Some comments...With Best Wishes,Sanjay Rath

- Sarajit Poddar

varahamihira

Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:40 AM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Chart with Venus, Jupiter and Lagna Lord in 7th

HARE RAMA KRISHNADear Ash!Here are my few lines on your chart on the 7th.

Rath: What lines???Though Venus is placed in the 7th should indicate, more passion, this willbe directed towards more on a sattwa side as this happens in Sag, theDevaguru's house. The placement of Devaguru Jup. also directs the passiontowards dharma. The combination of Lagna and 10th lord also shows you willdo your work with devotion and ethiclity. You will rise in the life withyour own effort.Rath: I know of a scoundrel born in Gemini Lagna with Venus in the seventh house who spent most of his life in seducing married women. What sort of Dharma is this? You are mixing Satya with Maya.. Venus is difficult to judge. You must also see the A7 & A12.Moreover, Ketu aspects the same from the Lagna. Ketu always curbs thepassion and Mercury also curbs venus's passion is in the 7th.

Rath: I know of a person with Venus and Rahu in the trines for Mesha Lagna who has spent almost the whole of his life in converting young girls into prostitutes. Well, that was the seventh Lord Venus with Rahu out there, but there were other combinations also.In the navamsa, you have Ketu in the 2nd from the Lagnamsa, so the Venus'spassion is curbed there too.

Rath: You got the main point. This single combination overrides many others just like a pure devotee like Ganesha was protected by Vishnu.2nd from the karakamsa is aspected by both Mercury and Venus. This showsthat even you have inherent tendency to be sexually passionate, this iscurbed by aspect of Mercury and hence, there is negligible chance of itsmanifestation.However, there are some more points to note. There is a beautiful rajayogadue to combination of AK Jupiter and PK Venus in the Rasi chart in the7th aspected by PiK Moon from the lagna. This yoga is sure to fructify asthe dispositor is the Atmakaraka himself, placed in his own house beingVargottama. Thats really great...Does Ketu in 2nd gave any problem to your speech? Just enquiring!!!!Need not worry. Venus in seventh can do no harm to you as the planets arestaying in Devaguru's house.Rath: Agree with others, but not here. Keep yourself under guard by worshipping Ganesha daily.Anyway do you know what are the indications of placement of Lagna lord inthe 7th?RegardsSarajitRegards

Sanjay RathOn Mon, 30 Jul 2001 ashsam73 wrote:> Dear Zoran and Gary,> > I have the combination of Lagna (Gemini) lord (mercury) (AmK), Venus > (PK) and Jupiter (AK) along with Rahu (GK) in the 7th (Sag). The > above are aspected by Ketu and moon from lagna (Gem).> Rahu and Ketu are debilitated and Jupiter and Mercury are Combust.> I am attaching my chart.> > Your Sisya,> Ash> > > > Date of Birth: January 17, 1973> Time of Birth: 5:17:00 pm> Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT> Longitude of Birth: 72 E 50> Latitude of Birth: 18 N 58> Lunar month (maasa): Pushya > Lunar day (tithi): Sukla Chaturdasi> Tithi balance: 0.5959> Nakshatra balance: 0.4050> Sun-Moon Yoga: Vaidhriti> Sun-Moon Karana: Garija> Vara (weekday): Wednesday> > Sunrise = 7:15 am (Apparent rise - upper limb)> Ayanamsa = 23-29-7> Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days> > Planet Position Pada CharaK > > Ascdt 19 Ge 58 Aardra 4 - > Sun 3 Cp 45 U.Shaa. 3 DK> Moon 14 Ge 36 Aardra 3 PiK> Mars 18 Sc 41 Jyeshtha 1 MK> Mercury 26 Sg 28 Poo.Shaa. 4 AmK> Jupiter 28 Sg 10 U.Shaa. 1 AK> Venus 13 Sg 37 Poo.Shaa. 1 PK> Saturn ® 20 Ta 49 Rohini 4 BK> Rahu 22 Sg 53 Poo.Shaa. 3 GK> Ketu 22 Ge 53 Punarvasu 1 - > BhavaLg 3 Ge 41 Mrigasira 4 - > HoraLg 4 Sc 04 Anuradha 1 - > GhatiLg 5 Aq 11 Dhanishtha 4 - > Dhooma 17 Ta 05 Rohini 3 - > Vyati 12 Aq 54 Satabhisham 2 - > Pari 12 Le 54 Makha 4 - > I.Chapa 17 Sc 05 Jyeshtha 1 - > Upaketu 3 Sg 45 Moola 2 - > Kaala 6 Ta 01 Krittika 3 - > Mrityu 16 Ge 01 Aardra 3 - > ArthaPr 2 Cp 30 U.Shaa. 2 - > YamaGha 25 Cp 10 Dhanishtha 1 - > Mandi 0 Ar 12 Aswini 1 - > Gulika 17 Pi 05 Revathi 1 - > > > +----------------------+> | | | | |> | | | | BL Moo |> | Glk | Mnd | SatR | |> | | | | Asc Ket |> | | | | |> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|> | | | |> | | | |> | GL | | |> | | | |> | | | |> |-------------| R A S I |-------------|> | | | |> | | | |> | Sun | | |> | | | |> | | | |> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|> | | | | |> | Ven Rah | HL | | |> | | | | |> | Mer Jup | Mar | | |> | | | | |> +----------------------+> > +----------------------+> | | | | |> | | Mnd | | |> | Asc | | | |> | | Ket | | |> | | | | |> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|> | | | |> | Moo | | |> | | | SatR |> | Sun | | |> | | | |> |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|> | | | |> | | | HL |> | | | |> | | | Ven |> | | | |> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|> | Mar | BL | | |> | | | | |> | Jup | Mer | Rah | |> | | | | |> | Glk | GL | | |> +----------------------+> > > Vimsottari Dasa:> > Rahu 1973-01-17 Venu 1973-11-19 Sun 1976-11-19 Moon 1977-10-14 > Mars 1979-04-15> Jupi 1980-05-02 Satu 1982-06-20 Merc 1985-01-01 Ketu 1987-04-08 > Venu 1988-03-14> Sun 1990-11-13 Moon 1991-09-02 Mars 1992-12-31 > Rahu 1993-12-07> Satu 1996-05-02 Merc 1999-05-06 Ketu 2002-01-13 Venu 2003-02-22 > Sun 2006-04-23> Moon 2007-04-05 Mars 2008-11-04 Rahu 2009-12-13 > Jupi 2012-10-19> Merc 2015-05-03 Ketu 2017-09-28 Venu 2018-09-25 Sun 2021-07-26 > Moon 2022-06-02> Mars 2023-11-01 Rahu 2024-10-28 Jupi 2027-05-18 > Satu 2029-08-23> Ketu 2032-05-02 Venu 2032-09-28 Sun 2033-11-28 Moon 2034-04-05 > Mars 2034-11-04> Rahu 2035-04-02 Jupi 2036-04-19 Satu 2037-03-26 > Merc 2038-05-05> Venu 2039-05-02 Sun 2042-09-01 Moon 2043-09-01 Mars 2045-05-02 > Rahu 2046-07-02> Jupi 2049-07-02 Satu 2052-03-02 Merc 2055-05-02 > Ketu 2058-03-02> Sun 2059-05-02 Moon 2059-08-20 Mars 2060-02-18 Rahu 2060-06-25 > Jupi 2061-05-20> Satu 2062-03-08 Merc 2063-02-18 Ketu 2063-12-26 > Venu 2064-05-01> Moon 2065-05-02 Mars 2066-03-02 Rahu 2066-10-01 Jupi 2068-04-01 > Satu 2069-08-01> Merc 2071-03-02 Ketu 2072-08-01 Venu 2073-03-02 > Sun 2074-11-01> Mars 2075-05-02 Rahu 2075-09-28 Jupi 2076-10-16 Satu 2077-09-22 > Merc 2078-10-31> Ketu 2079-10-29 Venu 2080-03-26 Sun 2081-05-26 > Moon 2081-10-01> > > > varahamihira, ahimsa@p... wrote:> > Dear Gary,> > > > > Zoran,> > >> > > I will artfully dodge the implications of your very last > statement, which I> > > might erroneously take as an insult or a compliment, since I am > not sure> > > what was meant by it! > > >> > > > It wasn't certainly an insult, Gary,> > > > >> > > The major problem that I have is usually that Sukra seems to be > perceived as> > > capable of doing no good, of having no spiritual nature, of > solely being> > > connected with sex and passion, etc. So when sins are assessed, > Sukra is> > > blamed, regardless of other factors in the chart.> > > It is viewed as a benefic planet in the Vedas, the possessor of > high> > > spiritual knowledge, and as a guru planet (although a Guru planet > for the> > > "other side").> > > Although I concur that it is connected with passion, passion has > many forms> > > and is not just sexual in nature. It has rulership over music, > art, the "64> > > arts" etc. and is a child of sage Bhrigu and is the planet of > priests. It> > > seems to receive little or no respect on the list, in my humble > opinion.> > > Personally, I have seen many people engage in very spiritual > practices> > > during Venus bhuktis and mahadasas. It is not soley a sensual > planet.> > >> > > > I never thought of venus being malefic. Neither did I notice this > in Sanjay's> > teachings.> > Actually Parashara says that Venus is the most benefic. Venus rules > pleasures> > and happiness, and if afflicted, life pleasure is gone. In the > highest form, it> > rules ananda, or bliss, recognized in Sat Chit Ananda > Transcendental awareness.> > I somewhere read that the root word of Shukra, comes from Suchi > which means> > light and purity, correct? Venus is also exalted in Guru's sign, > pisces, the> > sign of sages. Venus rules senses, and when dignified, senses are > highly> > cultered. Venus rules sukha, and happiness, so it is of the utmost > importance.> > Venus is a Brahmin by caste, so it rules scriptural knowledge. > However one> > cannot say that it gives the same tipe of vibrations as Guru. Venus > is till> > Asura teacher, It will imbibe the senses, and make person lost in > artistic> > impression. It enjoyes in sensual impressions like music, arts, > while Guru> > enjoys in meditation. It will pass through all sensual impressions, > experience> > them and ultimately seek Devine, while Guru will seek Devine > through prayer and> > meditation. Venus is the perfect Tapaswi when influenced by Saturn. > So in no way> > do we lessen the Venus role in the chart. However, it is not Graha > of Primary> > Spiritual knowledge. Surya, Guru and ketu tend to give Shiva Yoga, > while> > Chandra, Shukra and Rahu tend to give Laksmi Yoga. So Venus differs > from guru.> > However, one cannot say that Venus will not give Spiritual knowlege > in the> > chart. In my own chart, venus is exalted in kendra in involved in > Tapaswi Yoga.> > In Sanjay's chart, venus is in Swamsa, involved in Tapaswi Yoga. So > there is no> > question of Venus being incapable of giving spiritual knowledge. > However, venus> > alone, even in exaltation will not give spiritual knowldge, if now > influenced by> > saturn preferebly, or other factors.> > > > >> > > And Zoran, one of the reasons that the lord of the first in the > seventh is> > > important for obsessing (or thinking) about sex is that the 1st > house rules> > > the person's perspectives--if the first lord is in the seventh, > the person> > > always puts his head in relationships! It is a very simple, basic> > > interpretation...> > >> > > > That is correct, but it still needn't give too much sexual > enjoyments alone..> > Thanks> > Zoran> > > > OM TAT SAT> Archive: varahamihira> Files: varahamihira> varahamihira/database> > >

August 2, 2001

Dear Ash,

> Sarajit, to answer your question, " about the significance of lagna

> lord in 7th "

> The significance of lagna lord in 7th is the fact that others and

> spouce tend to dominate the person. Its given in COVA in the chapter

> of 7th house.

> Does it mean other things too?

>

Yes it can mean many other things. 7th house is the house of extrovertism,

so, by this placement you should be extrovert, dependent on others, liking

group activities, sociable, etc.. When strong it must give prosperity,

otherwise wanderings.

>

> Zoran mentioned about the role of AK (Jupiter in 7th in own house) in

> this case. Yes, Zoran it is the lord of Badkesh but it also forms a

> Hamsa yoga and is combust.

> I remember reading your and guruji sanjays message thread exchanges

> regarding the badkesh lord being combust by sun, which I may add was

> very enlightening. Here sun is the 3rd lord. I do not know the

> significance of it or what to make of it.

> Badkesh lord being combust in some ways might be good.

>

> Could you please give your explanation about this?

>

As you mentioned, jupiter dasha was quite challenging being atma. You must

give knowldge to others and try to raise general level of consciousness with

jupiter as atma in 7th house. Look at Gandhiji.. He had to make some

compromise and lose a part of teritrory with jupiter being atma.. That is his

punishing role. When graha is combust, it is subdued by Sun's role. Sun is

lord of 3rd house and this makes guru angry.. That is why I said that it may

burn you through sexual contacts. Note that 3rd house is the house of

physical intercourse. When badhakesh is combust, it is even angrier to give

its badhak results. What Sanjay and me discussed was concerned about mercury

being combust by 9th lord, which is another case.

>

> I also read Guruji Sanjays Post where he had explained the

> manifestation of Hamsa yoga and when Jupiter is also the lord of

> Badkesh.

> Guruji had mentioned that Yes the Hamsa yoga will manifest in ways

> where its results (prashad) will benefit someone else.

>

I must have missed this? do you have this mail? IT sounds logical. Badhakesh

will remain badhakesh for the chart owner. However, I suppose that strong

connection to Hamsa Yoga and subsequent benefits from others would finally

benefit the chart owner, more so if Hamsa Yoga graha lends connection to

lagna.

>

> Now Jupiter being the Atmakaraka, and being Vargottam in Saggitarius

> its mooltrikona sign, It would tend to punish severly and especially

> being vargottam. It would tend to protect the native but also

> punishment for past karma will be severe, and will guide me and

> enlighten me.

>

Atmakarak in saggitarius navamsh would expose you to dangers from vehicles

and falls from height. Be careful while travelling in the eastern direction.

> Coming to Mercury.

> Mercury is the lagna lord and 4th lord, and it cant be bad for the

> chart. It is combust though and it looses in the Graha yuddha to

> Jupiter (AK) and is Amk. It is also the badkesh lord from AL and its

> is combust again.

>

There are good yogas in 7th house, and dharmakarmaadhipati yoga of rahu and

guru, giving results through abroad and relations/spouse.Combust mercury can

give you angry thoughts/speech, and a bit assertivness. You may be an

excellent author. It is always good when AK wins in Graha Yudha, though it

makes mercury weaker. Some comforts may be deniad, but atma gaining strength

would keep sexual passion under controll(caused by surya/budh/and shukra in

7th)

>

> Could you also give your understanding for the badkesh lord being

> combust from AL.

>

Badhakesh from AL is not habitual concept. I suppose it would mar the

prospects of prosperity, concerning general happiness and comforts.

>

> Coming to Venus.

>

> Venus in the 7th makes me passionate in EVERYTHING I do and its for

> truthful and righteous cause. For one Its very hard for me to

> tolerate people who lie and are unjust or untruthful and people who

> are wrong doers that just puts me off and I tend to ignore or move

> away from such people and beleive me this force from within me is

> very strong. And as it correctly pointed out I have had to do

> everything on my own regarding career.

>

Surya in 7th is responsible for this as well. Guru, and other grahas too.You

may be to stubborn or assertive, but you are warm hearted person..

>

> My opinion is that all planets will do their role good / bad for the

> house but Atmakarak Jupiter will superwise and will not let any of

> the significance of all the other 3 planets in 7th house (Mercury,

> Rahu, Venus) go awry and will keep them under check and will let them

> do the bad but in such a way that it will not affect the native

> severly but AK will ensure that bad happens (punishment of AK) so

> that it enlightens the native thus acheiving its purpose of being the

> guiding force in the chart.

>

Have you examined scorpio navamsa, and influences thereon, as Ishta Devata?

>

> Coming to Rahu in the 7th house.

> Rahu in the 7th house is not good as mentioned in COVA. Now Rahu is

> also the lord of 9th house and in debilation and forms a chandala

> yoga with Guru. I do not know what to make of it.

> I have read the post of guruji regarding purohit and theif

> explanation of this guru chandala yoga but its manifestation is

> something that I still not have been able to decipher.

>

What about Dharmakarmaadhipati Yoga of Guru and Rahu? What about Veepreta

Yoga of Shukra and Surya in 7th ?

> All my teachers have always been proud of me since my childhood,

> never have let any one down, so this guru chandala yogas explanation

> still eludes me. Rahu (9th lord) in debilitation with Guru in

> mooltrikona and own house and being the AK.

>

DharmaKarma Yoga explains that.

Best wishes,

Zoran

August 2, 2001

Dear ASH,

> ZORAN AND SARAJIT, MY GURU (AK) PERIOD VIMSOTTARI DASA WAS FROM 1980

> THRU 1996. IT WAS NOT ONE OF THE EASY PERIODS OF MY LIFE BUT ITS

> BEEN THE MAJOR PERIOD FROM AGE 7 YEARS OLD THRU 23 YEARS OLD, WHICH

> IS MOST OF MY ADOLOSCENCE YEARS, AND ITS TAUGHT ME A LOT, LOTS OF

> BARRIERS CAME MY WAY REGARDING EDUCATION, FINANCES, HEALTH, WORK ETC

> BUT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OVERCOME ALL AND HAVE EXCELLED IN ALL THE

> ENDEAVOURS I HAD TAKEN AND I HAVE BEEN AND FELT LUCKY, AND HAVE FELT

> PROTECTED AS THOUGH THERE IS A PROTECTIVE FORCE AROUND ME, ITS KINDA

> HARD TO EXPLAIN, BUT IN THE END I HAVE ACHEIVED WHATEVER I HAD SET

> OUT TO ACHEIVE BUT IT HAD NOT BEEN EASY AND THE LEARNING CURVE WAS

> PRETTY STEEP. I ALSO DEVELOPED DEEP INTEREST IN ASTROLOGY IN THE

> SAME PERIOD.

>

The typical of strong ATMA..

>

> > >

> > > Moreover, Ketu aspects the same from the Lagna. Ketu always curbs

> the

> > > passion and Mercury also curbs venus's passion is in the 7th.

> > >

> >

> > Do note that Mercury promotes debilitation of venus and doesn't

> curb it but on

> > the conntrary when in trines to moon it gives loose morals, unless

> strong guru

> > curbs it.

> >

> > >

> I THOUGHT THAT MERCURY IN TRINES TO MOON AND ASPECT OF JUPITER ON THE

> SAME WAS TO BE LOOKED IN THE NAVAMSA FOR LOOSE MORALS.

>

OF course. Navamsa has greater importance for that. However, it also counts

in the rashi chart. But forget about this. Atma will have control over all

maters in 7th house..Budh likes the company of Guru-dhi shakti giver..

> ALL THE LORDS OF TRINES AND KENDRAS ARE IN A KENDRA (7TH HOUSE).

> I GUESS THE LORDS OF 9TH (RAHU), 12TH (VENUS) AND 7TH (JUPITER) ALL

> CONJOINED IN 7TH HOSUE CAUSED ME TO MOVE TO TORONTO, CANADA FROM

> BOMBAY, INDIA AS SOON AS THE AK'S VIMSOTTARI PERIOD ENDED, AND

> SATURNS MAHADASA STARTED.

>

> SO THE MANIFESTATION OF THE YOGAS WILL TAKE PLACE IN FAR AWAY LAND,

> IS SO TRUE.

>

I haven't looked at each planetary position, but saturn ruling 9th house

would certainly take you abroad. Saturn rules the west direction.Saturn is in

12th house and 9th from arudha lagna. So it is clear. Mars in scorpio is

responsible for your career engagement, and it is also maha yogada. Take care

about your moon-ketu in lagna, since they may give you whimsical nature and

mental arrest/ pain. It is true that rahu damages paka lagna, but it is

involved in DKA yoga, and thus his nature is controlled. In Shani mahadasha

you should monitor your health and be careful from accidents, since shani is

very strong and full of rays, agitated by mangal dristi. Further, veepreta

yoga is formed by shani and mangal. What is going on with your marriege?

Surya is afflicted in navamsa chart.

Best wishes,

Zoran

August 2, 2001

Om Gurave Namah----Dear Sarajit,

The only planet which says a complete NO is Moksh Karaka Ketu and Ganesh is the only deity who practised this Tapasya by meditating on Maha Vishnu. Tulasi tried to disturb His meditation and in theprocess received a curse by which she burnt. That is why we do not pluck Tulasi on Ekadasi to help Her personal tapasya in getting over this curse. Tulasi in turn cursed (or blessed..depends on how you look at it) Ganapati that He will marry two wives instead of one. These wives are Vidya and Siddhi. Just imagine Ganapati without Vidya or Siddhi??? In fact today Ganapati is reverred in India due to these two wives Vidya and Siddhi and very few really worship Him for His original powers of guiding perfect Pooja and tapasya.With Best Wishes,Sanjay Rath

- Sarajit Poddar

varahamihira

Wednesday, August 01, 2001 9:39 AM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Chart with Venus, Jupiter and Lagna Lord in 7th

Dear Zoran!I think there is little bit of difference in opinion with Mercury andPassion. Mercury is a planet which say "No" to sex. This is a very Jollyand happy to go planet, somewhat like childishness. You might have remembered Pt. Sanjay wrote in COVA that Emerald is nevergiven to a newly married bride. Why? Because, it curbs the sexual passion of the newly married couple.Jupiter doesn't curb the passion completely, whereas it says "do it, but,with moderation, for the fulfillment of the dharma" Thats why Venus isexalted in Jupiter's house, where the passion is pure, as moderated byJupiter. Whereas I understand, Mercury says complete "NO" to the venus'spassionPlease think over this point and comment.PranaamSarajitOn Tue, 31 Jul 2001 ahimsa wrote:> Dear Sarajit,> > >> > Though Venus is placed in the 7th should indicate, more passion, this will> > be directed towards more on a sattwa side as this happens in Sag, the> > Devaguru's house. The placement of Devaguru Jup. also directs the passion> > towards dharma. The combination of Lagna and 10th lord also shows you will> > do your work with devotion and ethiclity. You will rise in the life with> > your own effort.> >> > Guru tends to exalt venus that is why he keeps passion under control. However,> atma in 7th is alwyas a strong warning to keep the jatak out of superficial> sexual bonds, particularly in atma periods..> > >> > Moreover, Ketu aspects the same from the Lagna. Ketu always curbs the> > passion and Mercury also curbs venus's passion is in the 7th.> >> > Do note that Mercury promotes debilitation of venus and doesn't curb it but on> the conntrary when in trines to moon it gives loose morals, unless strong guru> curbs it.> > >> > In the navamsa, you have Ketu in the 2nd from the Lagnamsa, so the Venus's> > passion is curbed there too.> >> >> > This is a good point.> > > 2nd from the karakamsa is aspected by both Mercury and Venus. This shows> > that even you have inherent tendency to be sexually passionate, this is> > curbed by aspect of Mercury and hence, there is negligible chance of its> > manifestation.> >> > Do reconsider the role of Mercury> > >> > However, there are some more points to note. There is a beautiful rajayoga> > due to combination of AK Jupiter and PK Venus in the Rasi chart in the> > 7th aspected by PiK Moon from the lagna. This yoga is sure to fructify as> > the dispositor is the Atmakaraka himself, placed in his own house being> > Vargottama. Thats really great...> >> > Excellent point about atma and pitru yoga. However, never forget the role of> atmakarak> > >> > Does Ketu in 2nd gave any problem to your speech? Just enquiring!!!!> >> > Ketu in 2nd in navamsa should give prematurely graying hair and troubles in> self expression> > >> > Need not worry. Venus in seventh can do no harm to you as the planets are> > staying in Devaguru's house.> >> > What about atma? Guru is strong but it is badhakesh. Chandra as upapada lord> will have a prime say. Upapada is in 2nd house, which could give more than one> marriage/bonds. I will stop here..since I haven't taken closer look at the> chart..> BEst wishes,> Zoran> > > > OM TAT SAT> Archive: varahamihira> Files: varahamihira> varahamihira/database> > >

August 2, 2001

HARE RAMA KRISHNA

Dear Gurudev!

Thank you for giving me the knowledge on Ketu. Ganesha is Infact

worshipped for Vidya and siddhi. However, I thought Mercury

also curbs Venus's passion as you mentioned in COVA that PANNA is not

given to a newly wed couple as it might reduce their sexual urge.

Can't Mercury keep venus's passion under control? Why Jupiter in trine to

Mercury give chastity and Moon in trine to Mercury gives loose moral?

I am still pondering the issue. Any help would be higly appreciated.

Regards

Sarajit

On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Sanjay Rath wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

> ----

> Dear Sarajit,

> The only planet which says a complete NO is Moksh Karaka Ketu and Ganesh is

> the only deity who practised this Tapasya by meditating on Maha Vishnu.

> Tulasi tried to disturb His meditation and in theprocess received a curse by

> which she burnt. That is why we do not pluck Tulasi on Ekadasi to help Her

> personal tapasya in getting over this curse. Tulasi in turn cursed (or

> blessed..depends on how you look at it) Ganapati that He will marry two

> wives instead of one. These wives are Vidya and Siddhi. Just imagine

> Ganapati without Vidya or Siddhi??? In fact today Ganapati is reverred in

> India due to these two wives Vidya and Siddhi and very few really worship

> Him for His original powers of guiding perfect Pooja and tapasya.

> With Best Wishes,

> Sanjay Rath

>

> -

> Sarajit Poddar

> varahamihira

> Wednesday, August 01, 2001 9:39 AM

> Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Chart with Venus, Jupiter and Lagna Lord in

> 7th

>

> Dear Zoran!

>

> I think there is little bit of difference in opinion with Mercury and

> Passion. Mercury is a planet which say " No " to sex. This is a very Jolly

> and happy to go planet, somewhat like childishness.

>

> You might have remembered Pt. Sanjay wrote in COVA that Emerald is never

> given to a newly married bride. Why? Because, it curbs the sexual passion

> of the newly married couple.

> Jupiter doesn't curb the passion completely, whereas it says " do it, but,

> with moderation, for the fulfillment of the dharma " Thats why Venus is

> exalted in Jupiter's house, where the passion is pure, as moderated by

> Jupiter. Whereas I understand, Mercury says complete " NO " to the venus's

> passion

>

> Please think over this point and comment.

>

> Pranaam

> Sarajit

>

> On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 ahimsa wrote:

>

> > Dear Sarajit,

> >

> > >

> > > Though Venus is placed in the 7th should indicate, more passion, this

> will

> > > be directed towards more on a sattwa side as this happens in Sag, the

> > > Devaguru's house. The placement of Devaguru Jup. also directs the

> passion

> > > towards dharma. The combination of Lagna and 10th lord also shows you

> will

> > > do your work with devotion and ethiclity. You will rise in the life with

> > > your own effort.

> > >

> >

> > Guru tends to exalt venus that is why he keeps passion under control.

> However,

> > atma in 7th is alwyas a strong warning to keep the jatak out of

> superficial

> > sexual bonds, particularly in atma periods..

> >

> > >

> > > Moreover, Ketu aspects the same from the Lagna. Ketu always curbs the

> > > passion and Mercury also curbs venus's passion is in the 7th.

> > >

> >

> > Do note that Mercury promotes debilitation of venus and doesn't curb it

> but on

> > the conntrary when in trines to moon it gives loose morals, unless strong

> guru

> > curbs it.

> >

> > >

> > > In the navamsa, you have Ketu in the 2nd from the Lagnamsa, so the

> Venus's

> > > passion is curbed there too.

> > >

> >

> > This is a good point.

> >

> > > 2nd from the karakamsa is aspected by both Mercury and Venus. This shows

> > > that even you have inherent tendency to be sexually passionate, this is

> > > curbed by aspect of Mercury and hence, there is negligible chance of its

> > > manifestation.

> > >

> >

> > Do reconsider the role of Mercury

> >

> > >

> > > However, there are some more points to note. There is a beautiful

> rajayoga

> > > due to combination of AK Jupiter and PK Venus in the Rasi chart in the

> > > 7th aspected by PiK Moon from the lagna. This yoga is sure to fructify

> as

> > > the dispositor is the Atmakaraka himself, placed in his own house being

> > > Vargottama. Thats really great...

> > >

> >

> > Excellent point about atma and pitru yoga. However, never forget the role

> of

> > atmakarak

> >

> > >

> > > Does Ketu in 2nd gave any problem to your speech? Just enquiring!!!!

> > >

> >

> > Ketu in 2nd in navamsa should give prematurely graying hair and troubles

> in

> > self expression

> >

> > >

> > > Need not worry. Venus in seventh can do no harm to you as the planets

> are

> > > staying in Devaguru's house.

> > >

> >

> > What about atma? Guru is strong but it is badhakesh. Chandra as upapada

> lord

> > will have a prime say. Upapada is in 2nd house, which could give more than

> one

> > marriage/bonds. I will stop here..since I haven't taken closer look at the

> > chart..

> > BEst wishes,

> > Zoran

> >

> > OM TAT SAT

> > Archive: varahamihira

> > Files: varahamihira

> > varahamihira/database

> >

August 2, 2001

Dear Zoran,

Call this fate or free will or your instincts or your power of

intution, but I shall tell you what happened yesterday evening.

In this email you mentioned about AK being in Sag in Navamsa giving

troubles from fall of heights or vehicles.

Wow !!!! this is amazing as last night (I had checked Varhamira list

for any response from you or sarajit) but no one had replied as that

time, so I was not aware of your warning about vehicles. It was about

8 pm my time here in Toronto but as of that time you had not composed

this email or I dont know if you were in the process of writing this

reply. So I shall call it your intution and fate or free will or

whatever you want to call it.

My brother and myself were coming home from a drive and there was

this vehicle (black in colour) that did not see the red light and was

going straight through it (at an intersection) and he was talking on

his cell phone at that time.... nevertheless he came in fast and call

it fate, he realised and in split second braked hard, and just missed

my car this was an intersection and we had a green light, both my

brother and myself were shaken by this incident.

There is protection from the almighty.

It was a near miss. Cause had he not realised he was at a tremendous

high speed, and if he had hit my car, there would not be a lot of

chances of me writing this email.

This morning I checked varahamihira list and read your email and read

what you wrote and was just dazzled by it.

Thank you Zoran very much.

Best Regards,

Ash

varahamihira, ahimsa@p... wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> > Sarajit, to answer your question, " about the significance of lagna

> > lord in 7th "

> > The significance of lagna lord in 7th is the fact that others and

> > spouce tend to dominate the person. Its given in COVA in the

chapter

> > of 7th house.

> > Does it mean other things too?

> >

>

> Yes it can mean many other things. 7th house is the house of

extrovertism,

> so, by this placement you should be extrovert, dependent on others,

liking

> group activities, sociable, etc.. When strong it must give

prosperity,

> otherwise wanderings.

>

> >

> > Zoran mentioned about the role of AK (Jupiter in 7th in own

house) in

> > this case. Yes, Zoran it is the lord of Badkesh but it also

forms a

> > Hamsa yoga and is combust.

> > I remember reading your and guruji sanjays message thread

exchanges

> > regarding the badkesh lord being combust by sun, which I may add

was

> > very enlightening. Here sun is the 3rd lord. I do not know the

> > significance of it or what to make of it.

> > Badkesh lord being combust in some ways might be good.

> >

> > Could you please give your explanation about this?

> >

>

> As you mentioned, jupiter dasha was quite challenging being atma.

You must

> give knowldge to others and try to raise general level of

consciousness with

> jupiter as atma in 7th house. Look at Gandhiji.. He had to make some

> compromise and lose a part of teritrory with jupiter being atma..

That is his

> punishing role. When graha is combust, it is subdued by Sun's role.

Sun is

> lord of 3rd house and this makes guru angry.. That is why I said

that it may

> burn you through sexual contacts. Note that 3rd house is the house

of

> physical intercourse. When badhakesh is combust, it is even angrier

to give

> its badhak results. What Sanjay and me discussed was concerned

about mercury

> being combust by 9th lord, which is another case.

>

> >

> > I also read Guruji Sanjays Post where he had explained the

> > manifestation of Hamsa yoga and when Jupiter is also the lord of

> > Badkesh.

> > Guruji had mentioned that Yes the Hamsa yoga will manifest in ways

> > where its results (prashad) will benefit someone else.

> >

>

> I must have missed this? do you have this mail? IT sounds logical.

Badhakesh

> will remain badhakesh for the chart owner. However, I suppose that

strong

> connection to Hamsa Yoga and subsequent benefits from others would

finally

> benefit the chart owner, more so if Hamsa Yoga graha lends

connection to

> lagna.

>

> >

> > Now Jupiter being the Atmakaraka, and being Vargottam in

Saggitarius

> > its mooltrikona sign, It would tend to punish severly and

especially

> > being vargottam. It would tend to protect the native but also

> > punishment for past karma will be severe, and will guide me and

> > enlighten me.

> >

>

> Atmakarak in saggitarius navamsh would expose you to dangers from

vehicles

> and falls from height. Be careful while travelling in the eastern

direction.

>

> > Coming to Mercury.

> > Mercury is the lagna lord and 4th lord, and it cant be bad for the

> > chart. It is combust though and it looses in the Graha yuddha to

> > Jupiter (AK) and is Amk. It is also the badkesh lord from AL and

its

> > is combust again.

> >

>

> There are good yogas in 7th house, and dharmakarmaadhipati yoga of

rahu and

> guru, giving results through abroad and relations/spouse.Combust

mercury can

> give you angry thoughts/speech, and a bit assertivness. You may be

an

> excellent author. It is always good when AK wins in Graha Yudha,

though it

> makes mercury weaker. Some comforts may be deniad, but atma gaining

strength

> would keep sexual passion under controll(caused by surya/budh/and

shukra in

> 7th)

>

> >

> > Could you also give your understanding for the badkesh lord being

> > combust from AL.

> >

>

> Badhakesh from AL is not habitual concept. I suppose it would mar

the

> prospects of prosperity, concerning general happiness and comforts.

>

> >

> > Coming to Venus.

> >

> > Venus in the 7th makes me passionate in EVERYTHING I do and its

for

> > truthful and righteous cause. For one Its very hard for me to

> > tolerate people who lie and are unjust or untruthful and people

who

> > are wrong doers that just puts me off and I tend to ignore or move

> > away from such people and beleive me this force from within me is

> > very strong. And as it correctly pointed out I have had to do

> > everything on my own regarding career.

> >

>

> Surya in 7th is responsible for this as well. Guru, and other

grahas too.You

> may be to stubborn or assertive, but you are warm hearted person..

>

> >

> > My opinion is that all planets will do their role good / bad for

the

> > house but Atmakarak Jupiter will superwise and will not let any of

> > the significance of all the other 3 planets in 7th house (Mercury,

> > Rahu, Venus) go awry and will keep them under check and will let

them

> > do the bad but in such a way that it will not affect the native

> > severly but AK will ensure that bad happens (punishment of AK) so

> > that it enlightens the native thus acheiving its purpose of being

the

> > guiding force in the chart.

> >

>

> Have you examined scorpio navamsa, and influences thereon, as Ishta

Devata?

>

> >

> > Coming to Rahu in the 7th house.

> > Rahu in the 7th house is not good as mentioned in COVA. Now Rahu

is

> > also the lord of 9th house and in debilation and forms a chandala

> > yoga with Guru. I do not know what to make of it.

> > I have read the post of guruji regarding purohit and theif

> > explanation of this guru chandala yoga but its manifestation is

> > something that I still not have been able to decipher.

> >

>

> What about Dharmakarmaadhipati Yoga of Guru and Rahu? What about

Veepreta

> Yoga of Shukra and Surya in 7th ?

>

> > All my teachers have always been proud of me since my childhood,

> > never have let any one down, so this guru chandala yogas

explanation

> > still eludes me. Rahu (9th lord) in debilitation with Guru in

> > mooltrikona and own house and being the AK.

> >

>

> DharmaKarma Yoga explains that.

> Best wishes,

> Zoran

August 3, 2001

Dear Ash,

You should not thank me but Lord Jagannath who guides you in the form of

Bhagwan Guru in the chart as atmakarak. You are very humble person. This

knowledge comes from Great Sages, we just interpret this with our limited

minds. Hopefully, one day we will all be able to fulfill our mission and

reflect ITs purity..

May Lord Jagannath ever protect you.

Zoran

ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Zoran,

> Call this fate or free will or your instincts or your power of

> intution, but I shall tell you what happened yesterday evening.

>

> In this email you mentioned about AK being in Sag in Navamsa giving

> troubles from fall of heights or vehicles.

>

> Wow !!!! this is amazing as last night (I had checked Varhamira list

> for any response from you or sarajit) but no one had replied as that

> time, so I was not aware of your warning about vehicles. It was about

> 8 pm my time here in Toronto but as of that time you had not composed

> this email or I dont know if you were in the process of writing this

> reply. So I shall call it your intution and fate or free will or

> whatever you want to call it.

> My brother and myself were coming home from a drive and there was

> this vehicle (black in colour) that did not see the red light and was

> going straight through it (at an intersection) and he was talking on

> his cell phone at that time.... nevertheless he came in fast and call

> it fate, he realised and in split second braked hard, and just missed

> my car this was an intersection and we had a green light, both my

> brother and myself were shaken by this incident.

> There is protection from the almighty.

> It was a near miss. Cause had he not realised he was at a tremendous

> high speed, and if he had hit my car, there would not be a lot of

> chances of me writing this email.

> This morning I checked varahamihira list and read your email and read

> what you wrote and was just dazzled by it.

> Thank you Zoran very much.

> Best Regards,

> Ash

>

> varahamihira, ahimsa@p... wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > > Sarajit, to answer your question, " about the significance of lagna

> > > lord in 7th "

> > > The significance of lagna lord in 7th is the fact that others and

> > > spouce tend to dominate the person. Its given in COVA in the

> chapter

> > > of 7th house.

> > > Does it mean other things too?

> > >

> >

> > Yes it can mean many other things. 7th house is the house of

> extrovertism,

> > so, by this placement you should be extrovert, dependent on others,

> liking

> > group activities, sociable, etc.. When strong it must give

> prosperity,

> > otherwise wanderings.

> >

> > >

> > > Zoran mentioned about the role of AK (Jupiter in 7th in own

> house) in

> > > this case. Yes, Zoran it is the lord of Badkesh but it also

> forms a

> > > Hamsa yoga and is combust.

> > > I remember reading your and guruji sanjays message thread

> exchanges

> > > regarding the badkesh lord being combust by sun, which I may add

> was

> > > very enlightening. Here sun is the 3rd lord. I do not know the

> > > significance of it or what to make of it.

> > > Badkesh lord being combust in some ways might be good.

> > >

> > > Could you please give your explanation about this?

> > >

> >

> > As you mentioned, jupiter dasha was quite challenging being atma.

> You must

> > give knowldge to others and try to raise general level of

> consciousness with

> > jupiter as atma in 7th house. Look at Gandhiji.. He had to make some

> > compromise and lose a part of teritrory with jupiter being atma..

> That is his

> > punishing role. When graha is combust, it is subdued by Sun's role.

> Sun is

> > lord of 3rd house and this makes guru angry.. That is why I said

> that it may

> > burn you through sexual contacts. Note that 3rd house is the house

> of

> > physical intercourse. When badhakesh is combust, it is even angrier

> to give

> > its badhak results. What Sanjay and me discussed was concerned

> about mercury

> > being combust by 9th lord, which is another case.

> >

> > >

> > > I also read Guruji Sanjays Post where he had explained the

> > > manifestation of Hamsa yoga and when Jupiter is also the lord of

> > > Badkesh.

> > > Guruji had mentioned that Yes the Hamsa yoga will manifest in ways

> > > where its results (prashad) will benefit someone else.

> > >

> >

> > I must have missed this? do you have this mail? IT sounds logical.

> Badhakesh

> > will remain badhakesh for the chart owner. However, I suppose that

> strong

> > connection to Hamsa Yoga and subsequent benefits from others would

> finally

> > benefit the chart owner, more so if Hamsa Yoga graha lends

> connection to

> > lagna.

> >

> > >

> > > Now Jupiter being the Atmakaraka, and being Vargottam in

> Saggitarius

> > > its mooltrikona sign, It would tend to punish severly and

> especially

> > > being vargottam. It would tend to protect the native but also

> > > punishment for past karma will be severe, and will guide me and

> > > enlighten me.

> > >

> >

> > Atmakarak in saggitarius navamsh would expose you to dangers from

> vehicles

> > and falls from height. Be careful while travelling in the eastern

> direction.

> >

> > > Coming to Mercury.

> > > Mercury is the lagna lord and 4th lord, and it cant be bad for the

> > > chart. It is combust though and it looses in the Graha yuddha to

> > > Jupiter (AK) and is Amk. It is also the badkesh lord from AL and

> its

> > > is combust again.

> > >

> >

> > There are good yogas in 7th house, and dharmakarmaadhipati yoga of

> rahu and

> > guru, giving results through abroad and relations/spouse.Combust

> mercury can

> > give you angry thoughts/speech, and a bit assertivness. You may be

> an

> > excellent author. It is always good when AK wins in Graha Yudha,

> though it

> > makes mercury weaker. Some comforts may be deniad, but atma gaining

> strength

> > would keep sexual passion under controll(caused by surya/budh/and

> shukra in

> > 7th)

> >

> > >

> > > Could you also give your understanding for the badkesh lord being

> > > combust from AL.

> > >

> >

> > Badhakesh from AL is not habitual concept. I suppose it would mar

> the

> > prospects of prosperity, concerning general happiness and comforts.

> >

> > >

> > > Coming to Venus.

> > >

> > > Venus in the 7th makes me passionate in EVERYTHING I do and its

> for

> > > truthful and righteous cause. For one Its very hard for me to

> > > tolerate people who lie and are unjust or untruthful and people

> who

> > > are wrong doers that just puts me off and I tend to ignore or move

> > > away from such people and beleive me this force from within me is

> > > very strong. And as it correctly pointed out I have had to do

> > > everything on my own regarding career.

> > >

> >

> > Surya in 7th is responsible for this as well. Guru, and other

> grahas too.You

> > may be to stubborn or assertive, but you are warm hearted person..

> >

> > >

> > > My opinion is that all planets will do their role good / bad for

> the

> > > house but Atmakarak Jupiter will superwise and will not let any of

> > > the significance of all the other 3 planets in 7th house (Mercury,

> > > Rahu, Venus) go awry and will keep them under check and will let

> them

> > > do the bad but in such a way that it will not affect the native

> > > severly but AK will ensure that bad happens (punishment of AK) so

> > > that it enlightens the native thus acheiving its purpose of being

> the

> > > guiding force in the chart.

> > >

> >

> > Have you examined scorpio navamsa, and influences thereon, as Ishta

> Devata?

> >

> > >

> > > Coming to Rahu in the 7th house.

> > > Rahu in the 7th house is not good as mentioned in COVA. Now Rahu

> is

> > > also the lord of 9th house and in debilation and forms a chandala

> > > yoga with Guru. I do not know what to make of it.

> > > I have read the post of guruji regarding purohit and theif

> > > explanation of this guru chandala yoga but its manifestation is

> > > something that I still not have been able to decipher.

> > >

> >

> > What about Dharmakarmaadhipati Yoga of Guru and Rahu? What about

> Veepreta

> > Yoga of Shukra and Surya in 7th ?

> >

> > > All my teachers have always been proud of me since my childhood,

> > > never have let any one down, so this guru chandala yogas

> explanation

> > > still eludes me. Rahu (9th lord) in debilitation with Guru in

> > > mooltrikona and own house and being the AK.

> > >

> >

> > DharmaKarma Yoga explains that.

> > Best wishes,

> > Zoran

>

> OM TAT SAT

> Archive: varahamihira

> Files: varahamihira

> varahamihira/database

>

August 3, 2001

Dear Gary,

> the Venus Jupiter conjunction in the seventh house in Pisces the person had

> problems with fidelity. Jupiter is more responsible for this condition IN

> THIS CASE than Venus. I had a friend who had Jupiter in the seventh in

> Pisces who was plagued by overactive sexuality, especially during his

> Jupiter Mahadasa and he always complained to me that it interfered with his

> spiritual life!

>

Was it the Jupiter only.? As Sanjay pointed out, darapada and other factors must

confirm that. I can only seen this reason attributed to jupiter in pisces, if He

is Retrograde.. Today, I examined a chart of a lady with Rx Guru in own sign

pisces. Her husband had an affair which almost led to divorce.. I think, Deva

guru when strong will always protect..

BEst wishes,

Zoran

August 3, 2001

A Kama lord in a Kama house will do it even more I think...that is why with

the Venus Jupiter conjunction in the seventh house in Pisces the person had

problems with fidelity. Jupiter is more responsible for this condition IN

THIS CASE than Venus. I had a friend who had Jupiter in the seventh in

Pisces who was plagued by overactive sexuality, especially during his

Jupiter Mahadasa and he always complained to me that it interfered with his

spiritual life!

Gary Gomes

-

Anton Kuznetsov <tony

Wednesday, August 01, 2001 5:39 PM

[Hare Rama Krishna] Chart with Venus, Jupiter and Lagna Lord in 7th

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

> Pranam, dear friends,

>

> > Shukra is placed in the 7th should indicate more passion

>

> Maybe in the chart passion is indicated by other signs, for instance

by

> drishti from Mangala to Shukra or by Shukra in Oopashaya-bhava (with

> Syura/AK)...

>

> Namaste

> Anton Kuznetsov

> Shree Gurave Namaha

>

> OM TAT SAT

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>

August 3, 2001

Namaste,

It would be good to look at the Narayan Dasa for this period then compare

the Vimshottari with it.

ahimsa [ahimsa] Wednesday, August 01, 2001 7:32 PMvarahamihira Subject: Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Chart with Venus, Jupiter and Lagna Lord in 7thDear ASH,> ZORAN AND SARAJIT, MY GURU (AK) PERIOD VIMSOTTARI DASA WAS FROM 1980> THRU 1996. IT WAS NOT ONE OF THE EASY PERIODS OF MY LIFE BUT ITS> BEEN THE MAJOR PERIOD FROM AGE 7 YEARS OLD THRU 23 YEARS OLD, WHICH> IS MOST OF MY ADOLOSCENCE YEARS, AND ITS TAUGHT ME A LOT, LOTS OF> BARRIERS CAME MY WAY REGARDING EDUCATION, FINANCES, HEALTH, WORK ETC> BUT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OVERCOME ALL AND HAVE EXCELLED IN ALL THE> ENDEAVOURS I HAD TAKEN AND I HAVE BEEN AND FELT LUCKY, AND HAVE FELT> PROTECTED AS THOUGH THERE IS A PROTECTIVE FORCE AROUND ME, ITS KINDA> HARD TO EXPLAIN, BUT IN THE END I HAVE ACHEIVED WHATEVER I HAD SET> OUT TO ACHEIVE BUT IT HAD NOT BEEN EASY AND THE LEARNING CURVE WAS> PRETTY STEEP. I ALSO DEVELOPED DEEP INTEREST IN ASTROLOGY IN THE> SAME PERIOD.>The typical of strong ATMA..>> > >> > > Moreover, Ketu aspects the same from the Lagna. Ketu always curbs> the> > > passion and Mercury also curbs venus's passion is in the 7th.> > >> >> > Do note that Mercury promotes debilitation of venus and doesn't> curb it but on> > the conntrary when in trines to moon it gives loose morals, unless> strong guru> > curbs it.> >> > >> I THOUGHT THAT MERCURY IN TRINES TO MOON AND ASPECT OF JUPITER ON THE> SAME WAS TO BE LOOKED IN THE NAVAMSA FOR LOOSE MORALS.>OF course. Navamsa has greater importance for that. However, it also countsin the rashi chart. But forget about this. Atma will have control over allmaters in 7th house..Budh likes the company of Guru-dhi shakti giver..> ALL THE LORDS OF TRINES AND KENDRAS ARE IN A KENDRA (7TH HOUSE).> I GUESS THE LORDS OF 9TH (RAHU), 12TH (VENUS) AND 7TH (JUPITER) ALL> CONJOINED IN 7TH HOSUE CAUSED ME TO MOVE TO TORONTO, CANADA FROM> BOMBAY, INDIA AS SOON AS THE AK'S VIMSOTTARI PERIOD ENDED, AND> SATURNS MAHADASA STARTED.>> SO THE MANIFESTATION OF THE YOGAS WILL TAKE PLACE IN FAR AWAY LAND,> IS SO TRUE.>>I haven't looked at each planetary position, but saturn ruling 9th housewould certainly take you abroad. Saturn rules the west direction.Saturn is in12th house and 9th from arudha lagna. So it is clear. Mars in scorpio isresponsible for your career engagement, and it is also maha yogada. Take careabout your moon-ketu in lagna, since they may give you whimsical nature andmental arrest/ pain. It is true that rahu damages paka lagna, but it isinvolved in DKA yoga, and thus his nature is controlled. In Shani mahadashayou should monitor your health and be careful from accidents, since shani isvery strong and full of rays, agitated by mangal dristi. Further, veepretayoga is formed by shani and mangal. What is going on with your marriege?Surya is afflicted in navamsa chart.Best wishes,ZoranOM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraFiles: varahamihiravarahamihira/database

August 3, 2001

HARE RAMA KRISHNA

Dear Ash!

Have faith and you won't be harmed. The Vargottama Atmakaraka in own house

is the protecting force. Pray your Ista to guide you in this world of

Maya.

This experience will be astrologically helpful if you analyse the event

with Narayana Dasa.

Good wishes

May Lord Jagannath Bless you

Sarajit

On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Zoran,

> Call this fate or free will or your instincts or your power of

> intution, but I shall tell you what happened yesterday evening.

>

> In this email you mentioned about AK being in Sag in Navamsa giving

> troubles from fall of heights or vehicles.

>

> Wow !!!! this is amazing as last night (I had checked Varhamira list

> for any response from you or sarajit) but no one had replied as that

> time, so I was not aware of your warning about vehicles. It was about

> 8 pm my time here in Toronto but as of that time you had not composed

> this email or I dont know if you were in the process of writing this

> reply. So I shall call it your intution and fate or free will or

> whatever you want to call it.

> My brother and myself were coming home from a drive and there was

> this vehicle (black in colour) that did not see the red light and was

> going straight through it (at an intersection) and he was talking on

> his cell phone at that time.... nevertheless he came in fast and call

> it fate, he realised and in split second braked hard, and just missed

> my car this was an intersection and we had a green light, both my

> brother and myself were shaken by this incident.

> There is protection from the almighty.

> It was a near miss. Cause had he not realised he was at a tremendous

> high speed, and if he had hit my car, there would not be a lot of

> chances of me writing this email.

> This morning I checked varahamihira list and read your email and read

> what you wrote and was just dazzled by it.

> Thank you Zoran very much.

> Best Regards,

> Ash

>

> varahamihira, ahimsa@p... wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > > Sarajit, to answer your question, " about the significance of lagna

> > > lord in 7th "

> > > The significance of lagna lord in 7th is the fact that others and

> > > spouce tend to dominate the person. Its given in COVA in the

> chapter

> > > of 7th house.

> > > Does it mean other things too?

> > >

> >

> > Yes it can mean many other things. 7th house is the house of

> extrovertism,

> > so, by this placement you should be extrovert, dependent on others,

> liking

> > group activities, sociable, etc.. When strong it must give

> prosperity,

> > otherwise wanderings.

> >

> > >

> > > Zoran mentioned about the role of AK (Jupiter in 7th in own

> house) in

> > > this case. Yes, Zoran it is the lord of Badkesh but it also

> forms a

> > > Hamsa yoga and is combust.

> > > I remember reading your and guruji sanjays message thread

> exchanges

> > > regarding the badkesh lord being combust by sun, which I may add

> was

> > > very enlightening. Here sun is the 3rd lord. I do not know the

> > > significance of it or what to make of it.

> > > Badkesh lord being combust in some ways might be good.

> > >

> > > Could you please give your explanation about this?

> > >

> >

> > As you mentioned, jupiter dasha was quite challenging being atma.

> You must

> > give knowldge to others and try to raise general level of

> consciousness with

> > jupiter as atma in 7th house. Look at Gandhiji.. He had to make some

> > compromise and lose a part of teritrory with jupiter being atma..

> That is his

> > punishing role. When graha is combust, it is subdued by Sun's role.

> Sun is

> > lord of 3rd house and this makes guru angry.. That is why I said

> that it may

> > burn you through sexual contacts. Note that 3rd house is the house

> of

> > physical intercourse. When badhakesh is combust, it is even angrier

> to give

> > its badhak results. What Sanjay and me discussed was concerned

> about mercury

> > being combust by 9th lord, which is another case.

> >

> > >

> > > I also read Guruji Sanjays Post where he had explained the

> > > manifestation of Hamsa yoga and when Jupiter is also the lord of

> > > Badkesh.

> > > Guruji had mentioned that Yes the Hamsa yoga will manifest in ways

> > > where its results (prashad) will benefit someone else.

> > >

> >

> > I must have missed this? do you have this mail? IT sounds logical.

> Badhakesh

> > will remain badhakesh for the chart owner. However, I suppose that

> strong

> > connection to Hamsa Yoga and subsequent benefits from others would

> finally

> > benefit the chart owner, more so if Hamsa Yoga graha lends

> connection to

> > lagna.

> >

> > >

> > > Now Jupiter being the Atmakaraka, and being Vargottam in

> Saggitarius

> > > its mooltrikona sign, It would tend to punish severly and

> especially

> > > being vargottam. It would tend to protect the native but also

> > > punishment for past karma will be severe, and will guide me and

> > > enlighten me.

> > >

> >

> > Atmakarak in saggitarius navamsh would expose you to dangers from

> vehicles

> > and falls from height. Be careful while travelling in the eastern

> direction.

> >

> > > Coming to Mercury.

> > > Mercury is the lagna lord and 4th lord, and it cant be bad for the

> > > chart. It is combust though and it looses in the Graha yuddha to

> > > Jupiter (AK) and is Amk. It is also the badkesh lord from AL and

> its

> > > is combust again.

> > >

> >

> > There are good yogas in 7th house, and dharmakarmaadhipati yoga of

> rahu and

> > guru, giving results through abroad and relations/spouse.Combust

> mercury can

> > give you angry thoughts/speech, and a bit assertivness. You may be

> an

> > excellent author. It is always good when AK wins in Graha Yudha,

> though it

> > makes mercury weaker. Some comforts may be deniad, but atma gaining

> strength

> > would keep sexual passion under controll(caused by surya/budh/and

> shukra in

> > 7th)

> >

> > >

> > > Could you also give your understanding for the badkesh lord being

> > > combust from AL.

> > >

> >

> > Badhakesh from AL is not habitual concept. I suppose it would mar

> the

> > prospects of prosperity, concerning general happiness and comforts.

> >

> > >

> > > Coming to Venus.

> > >

> > > Venus in the 7th makes me passionate in EVERYTHING I do and its

> for

> > > truthful and righteous cause. For one Its very hard for me to

> > > tolerate people who lie and are unjust or untruthful and people

> who

> > > are wrong doers that just puts me off and I tend to ignore or move

> > > away from such people and beleive me this force from within me is

> > > very strong. And as it correctly pointed out I have had to do

> > > everything on my own regarding career.

> > >

> >

> > Surya in 7th is responsible for this as well. Guru, and other

> grahas too.You

> > may be to stubborn or assertive, but you are warm hearted person..

> >

> > >

> > > My opinion is that all planets will do their role good / bad for

> the

> > > house but Atmakarak Jupiter will superwise and will not let any of

> > > the significance of all the other 3 planets in 7th house (Mercury,

> > > Rahu, Venus) go awry and will keep them under check and will let

> them

> > > do the bad but in such a way that it will not affect the native

> > > severly but AK will ensure that bad happens (punishment of AK) so

> > > that it enlightens the native thus acheiving its purpose of being

> the

> > > guiding force in the chart.

> > >

> >

> > Have you examined scorpio navamsa, and influences thereon, as Ishta

> Devata?

> >

> > >

> > > Coming to Rahu in the 7th house.

> > > Rahu in the 7th house is not good as mentioned in COVA. Now Rahu

> is

> > > also the lord of 9th house and in debilation and forms a chandala

> > > yoga with Guru. I do not know what to make of it.

> > > I have read the post of guruji regarding purohit and theif

> > > explanation of this guru chandala yoga but its manifestation is

> > > something that I still not have been able to decipher.

> > >

> >

> > What about Dharmakarmaadhipati Yoga of Guru and Rahu? What about

> Veepreta

> > Yoga of Shukra and Surya in 7th ?

> >

> > > All my teachers have always been proud of me since my childhood,

> > > never have let any one down, so this guru chandala yogas

> explanation

> > > still eludes me. Rahu (9th lord) in debilitation with Guru in

> > > mooltrikona and own house and being the AK.

> > >

> >

> > DharmaKarma Yoga explains that.

> > Best wishes,

> > Zoran

>

> OM TAT SAT

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>

August 3, 2001

Ok Frank,

Can you calculate Narayana dasha for this chart? If there are some

problems, I will help.. Best wishes

Zoran

Frank in Austin wrote:

Namaste,It

would be good to look at the Narayan Dasa for this period then comparethe

Vimshottari with it.

-----Original

Message-----

ahimsa [ahimsa]

Wednesday, August 01,

2001 7:32 PM

varahamihira

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna]

Chart with Venus, Jupiter and Lagna Lord in 7th

Dear ASH,

> ZORAN AND SARAJIT, MY GURU (AK) PERIOD VIMSOTTARI DASA WAS FROM

1980

> THRU 1996. IT WAS NOT ONE OF THE EASY PERIODS OF MY LIFE

BUT ITS

> BEEN THE MAJOR PERIOD FROM AGE 7 YEARS OLD THRU 23 YEARS OLD,

WHICH

> IS MOST OF MY ADOLOSCENCE YEARS, AND ITS TAUGHT ME A LOT, LOTS

OF

> BARRIERS CAME MY WAY REGARDING EDUCATION, FINANCES, HEALTH, WORK

ETC

> BUT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OVERCOME ALL AND HAVE EXCELLED IN ALL THE

> ENDEAVOURS I HAD TAKEN AND I HAVE BEEN AND FELT LUCKY, AND HAVE

FELT

> PROTECTED AS THOUGH THERE IS A PROTECTIVE FORCE AROUND ME,

ITS KINDA

> HARD TO EXPLAIN, BUT IN THE END I HAVE ACHEIVED WHATEVER I HAD

SET

> OUT TO ACHEIVE BUT IT HAD NOT BEEN EASY AND THE LEARNING CURVE

WAS

> PRETTY STEEP. I ALSO DEVELOPED DEEP INTEREST IN ASTROLOGY

IN THE

> SAME PERIOD.

>

The typical of strong ATMA..

>

> > >

> > > Moreover, Ketu aspects the same from the Lagna. Ketu always

curbs

> the

> > > passion and Mercury also curbs venus's passion is in the

7th.

> > >

> >

> > Do note that Mercury promotes debilitation of venus and doesn't

> curb it but on

> > the conntrary when in trines to moon it gives loose morals,

unless

> strong guru

> > curbs it.

> >

> > >

> I THOUGHT THAT MERCURY IN TRINES TO MOON AND ASPECT OF JUPITER

ON THE

> SAME WAS TO BE LOOKED IN THE NAVAMSA FOR LOOSE MORALS.

>

OF course. Navamsa has greater importance for that. However, it

also counts

in the rashi chart. But forget about this. Atma will have control

over all

maters in 7th house..Budh likes the company of Guru-dhi shakti

giver..

> ALL THE LORDS OF TRINES AND KENDRAS ARE IN A KENDRA (7TH HOUSE).

> I GUESS THE LORDS OF 9TH (RAHU), 12TH (VENUS) AND 7TH (JUPITER)

ALL

> CONJOINED IN 7TH HOSUE CAUSED ME TO MOVE TO TORONTO, CANADA FROM

> BOMBAY, INDIA AS SOON AS THE AK'S VIMSOTTARI PERIOD ENDED, AND

> SATURNS MAHADASA STARTED.

>

> SO THE MANIFESTATION OF THE YOGAS WILL TAKE PLACE IN FAR AWAY

LAND,

> IS SO TRUE.

>

I haven't looked at each planetary position, but saturn ruling 9th

house

would certainly take you abroad. Saturn rules the west direction.Saturn

is in

12th house and 9th from arudha lagna. So it is clear. Mars in scorpio

is

responsible for your career engagement, and it is also maha yogada.

Take care

about your moon-ketu in lagna, since they may give you whimsical

nature and

mental arrest/ pain. It is true that rahu damages paka lagna, but

it is

involved in DKA yoga, and thus his nature is controlled. In Shani

mahadasha

you should monitor your health and be careful from accidents, since

shani is

very strong and full of rays, agitated by mangal dristi. Further,

veepreta

yoga is formed by shani and mangal. What is going on with your

marriege?

Surya is afflicted in navamsa chart.

Best wishes,

Zoran

OM TAT SAT

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August 3, 2001

Dear Zoran, Sarajit and Frank,

This is my first detailed analysis.. and hmm a little nervous here.

Please feel free to correct my errors.

The comparision for the following Vimsottari Dasa of AK is from

Mahadasa Jupiter (AK)

Jupi 1980-05-02 Satu 1982-06-20 Merc 1985-01-01 Ketu 1987-04-08

Venu 1988-03-14 Sun 1990-11-13 Moon 1991-09-02 Mars 1992-12-31

Rahu 1993-12-07 thru 1996-05-02

Corresponding Narayana Dasa is of Rasi covers 3 Signs

Sag Mahadasa 1973-01-17 - 1985-01-16

Sag 1973-01-17 - 1974-01-17

Cap 1974-01-17 - 1975-01-17

Aqu 1975-01-17 - 1976-01-17

Pis 1976-01-17 - 1977-01-16

Ari 1977-01-16 - 1978-01-16

Tau 1978-01-16 - 1979-01-16

Gem 1979-01-16 - 1980-01-16

Can 1980-01-16 - 1981-01-15

Leo 1981-01-15 - 1982-01-15

Vir 1982-01-15 - 1983-01-15

Lib 1983-01-15 - 1984-01-15

Sco 1984-01-15 - 1985-01-14

Leo Mahadasa 1985-01-16 - 1992-01-16

Cap 1985-01-16 - 1985-08-17

Sag 1985-08-17 - 1986-03-18

Sco 1986-03-18 - 1986-10-17

Lib 1986-10-17 - 1987-05-18

Vir 1987-05-18 - 1987-12-17

Leo 1987-12-17 - 1988-07-17

Can 1988-07-17 - 1989-02-15

Gem 1989-02-15 - 1989-09-16

Tau 1989-09-16 - 1990-04-17

Ari 1990-04-17 - 1990-11-16

Pis 1990-11-16 - 1991-06-17

Aqu 1991-06-17 - 1992-01-16

Ari Mahadasa 1992-01-16 - 1999-01-15

Sco 1992-01-16 - 1992-08-16

Lib 1992-08-16 - 1993-03-17

Vir 1993-03-17 - 1993-10-16

Leo 1993-10-16 - 1994-05-17

Can 1994-05-17 - 1994-12-16

Gem 1994-12-16 - 1995-07-17

Tau 1995-07-17 - 1996-02-15

Ari 1996-02-15 - 1996-09-15

Pis 1996-09-15 - 1997-04-16

Aqu 1997-04-16 - 1997-11-15

Cap 1997-11-15 - 1998-06-16

Sag 1998-06-16 - 1999-01-15

Analysis.

Sagittarius - Using thi bhagi principle, being a malific sign, the

difficult results will show at the last 3rd part of the sign.

This coincides rather is close to the start of the vimsottari dasa of

Jupiter (AK)'s vimsottari dasa.

ie

Sag

Leo 1981-01-15 - 1982-01-15

Vir 1982-01-15 - 1983-01-15

Lib 1983-01-15 - 1984-01-15

Sco 1984-01-15 - 1985-01-14

The next Mahadasa was of Leo.

Leo has very high Ashtavarga bindu of 36.

It is a Royal sign.

It is also the 3rd House from Lagna, 8th From sun, 6th from Arudha

lagna, and 3rd from Varnada Lagna, 3rd from Moon.

All trik houses.

It is aspected by its own lord Sun from Capricorn which may be a

releif.

Leo receives ARGALA from Moon

Leo receives ARGALA from Mars

Leo receives VIRODH ARGALA from Saturn

Leo receives ARGALA from Ketu

Leo receives SECONDARY ARGALA from Jupiter (AK), Mercury, Rahu and

Venus.

Mars' Argala is Obstructed by Saturn here.

It receives Unobstructed Argala from Moon and Ketu and secondary

argala from Jupiter, Mercury, Rahu and Venus.

This all indicates that the Environment's effect on the native will

be harsh, but just to show the importances of Ashtavarga having 36

points and the the lord of sign aspecting it can help the native

overcome hardships posed in this dasa by the unbostructed secondary

argala from Jupiter, Mecrury, Rahiu and Venus.

More to do with determination and mind. (Secondary Argala).

During this dasa, native graduated grade 10, 12 and secured admission

into Computer Engineering Degree Program in Bombay University,

Despite all barriers regarding finaicial difficulties faced parents,

being the first batch to go up for ICSE board exam with teachers not

having experience for teaching grade 10 etc...

Next Dasa was of Aries

Aries is Aspected by its own lord Mars from Scorpio.

High Ashtavarga bindu of 34.

11th from Lagna and moon and varnada lagna and 4th from sun and shri

lagna.

Ari receives VIRODH ARGALA from Moon

Ari receives ARGALA from Saturn

Ari receives VIRODH ARGALA from Sun

Ari receives VIRODH ARGALA from Ketu

Ari receives Secondary VIRODH ARGALA from Jupiter, Mercury, Rahu and

Venus.

One can see the level of obstructions here that Aries receives, here

again High Ashtavarga bindus and its own lord Mars aspecting it helps

the sign and the native to again over come barriers.

In this Dasa the native completed his engineering, and secured a good

job (Mars is also lord of Hora lagna) despite all odds.

Please feel free to correct me, where I have gone wrong in the

Analysis.

Thanking you,

Your Shisya,

Ash

During this Dasa,

varahamihira, " Frank in Austin " <fschmidt@a...> wrote:

> Namaste,

> It would be good to look at the Narayan Dasa for this period then

> compare

> the Vimshottari with it.

>

> ahimsa@p... [ahimsa@p...]

> Wednesday, August 01, 2001 7:32 PM

> varahamihira

> Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Chart with Venus, Jupiter and Lagna

> Lord in 7th

>

> Dear ASH,

>

> > ZORAN AND SARAJIT, MY GURU (AK) PERIOD VIMSOTTARI DASA WAS FROM

1980

> > THRU 1996. IT WAS NOT ONE OF THE EASY PERIODS OF MY LIFE BUT ITS

> > BEEN THE MAJOR PERIOD FROM AGE 7 YEARS OLD THRU 23 YEARS OLD,

WHICH

> > IS MOST OF MY ADOLOSCENCE YEARS, AND ITS TAUGHT ME A LOT, LOTS OF

> > BARRIERS CAME MY WAY REGARDING EDUCATION, FINANCES, HEALTH, WORK

ETC

> > BUT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OVERCOME ALL AND HAVE EXCELLED IN ALL THE

> > ENDEAVOURS I HAD TAKEN AND I HAVE BEEN AND FELT LUCKY, AND HAVE

FELT

> > PROTECTED AS THOUGH THERE IS A PROTECTIVE FORCE AROUND ME, ITS

KINDA

> > HARD TO EXPLAIN, BUT IN THE END I HAVE ACHEIVED WHATEVER I HAD SET

> > OUT TO ACHEIVE BUT IT HAD NOT BEEN EASY AND THE LEARNING CURVE WAS

> > PRETTY STEEP. I ALSO DEVELOPED DEEP INTEREST IN ASTROLOGY IN THE

> > SAME PERIOD.

> >

>

> The typical of strong ATMA..

>

> >

> > > >

> > > > Moreover, Ketu aspects the same from the Lagna. Ketu always

curbs

> > the

> > > > passion and Mercury also curbs venus's passion is in the 7th.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Do note that Mercury promotes debilitation of venus and doesn't

> > curb it but on

> > > the conntrary when in trines to moon it gives loose morals,

unless

> > strong guru

> > > curbs it.

> > >

> > > >

> > I THOUGHT THAT MERCURY IN TRINES TO MOON AND ASPECT OF JUPITER ON

THE

> > SAME WAS TO BE LOOKED IN THE NAVAMSA FOR LOOSE MORALS.

> >

>

> OF course. Navamsa has greater importance for that. However, it also

> counts

> in the rashi chart. But forget about this. Atma will have control

over

> all

> maters in 7th house..Budh likes the company of Guru-dhi shakti

giver..

>

> > ALL THE LORDS OF TRINES AND KENDRAS ARE IN A KENDRA (7TH HOUSE).

> > I GUESS THE LORDS OF 9TH (RAHU), 12TH (VENUS) AND 7TH (JUPITER)

ALL

> > CONJOINED IN 7TH HOSUE CAUSED ME TO MOVE TO TORONTO, CANADA FROM

> > BOMBAY, INDIA AS SOON AS THE AK'S VIMSOTTARI PERIOD ENDED, AND

> > SATURNS MAHADASA STARTED.

> >

> > SO THE MANIFESTATION OF THE YOGAS WILL TAKE PLACE IN FAR AWAY

LAND,

> > IS SO TRUE.

> >

>

> I haven't looked at each planetary position, but saturn ruling 9th

house

> would certainly take you abroad. Saturn rules the west

direction.Saturn

> is in

> 12th house and 9th from arudha lagna. So it is clear. Mars in

scorpio is

> responsible for your career engagement, and it is also maha yogada.

Take

> care

> about your moon-ketu in lagna, since they may give you whimsical

nature

> and

> mental arrest/ pain. It is true that rahu damages paka lagna, but

it is

> involved in DKA yoga, and thus his nature is controlled. In Shani

> mahadasha

> you should monitor your health and be careful from accidents, since

> shani is

> very strong and full of rays, agitated by mangal dristi. Further,

> veepreta

> yoga is formed by shani and mangal. What is going on with your

marriege?

> Surya is afflicted in navamsa chart.

> Best wishes,

> Zoran

>

August 3, 2001

Dear Sarajit,

>> Thank you for giving me the knowledge on Ketu. Ganesha is Infact

> worshipped for Vidya and siddhi. However, I thought Mercury

> also curbs Venus's passion as you mentioned in COVA that PANNA is not

> given to a newly wed couple as it might reduce their sexual urge.

>

> Can't Mercury keep venus's passion under control? Why Jupiter in trine to

> Mercury give chastity and Moon in trine to Mercury gives loose moral?

>

> I am still pondering the issue. Any help would be higly appreciated.

>

Grahas in trines are Sadharmis. Mercury in fact hates moon, being her

Bastard or illicit son. So these two grahas in trines would promote

unchastity and

illicit

relationships. Guru in trines would promote chastity, due to reasonable

factors

such as guru nature and his holding exaltation of venus. It is simple.

If placed

in navamsa trines these features will be structured in inner nature..

Best wishes,

Zoran

August 4, 2001

Zoran,

Depends on the rising sign. I don't think Jupiter alone is responsible for

this condition--it also gives blessings of high status in the chart you

mentioned--but the point I am making is that a Kama lord (which Jupiter is

in this case) is placed in a Kama house. It accentuates desires and

sensuality more than, let's say, Venus alone would. House rulerships must be

taken into account when evaluating the effects of planets in a house.

I know at least three women with Venus in the seventh who are very faithful

and who have faithful relationships. Also former President Richard Nixon had

Venus in the Seventh (aspected by Saturn to give a more complete

picture) --despite his problems, I don't think he was ever unfaithful to his

wife.

Gary Gomes

-

<ahimsa

Thursday, August 02, 2001 6:37 PM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Chart with Venus, Jupiter and Lagna Lord in

7th

> Dear Gary,

>

> > the Venus Jupiter conjunction in the seventh house in Pisces the person

had

> > problems with fidelity. Jupiter is more responsible for this condition

IN

> > THIS CASE than Venus. I had a friend who had Jupiter in the seventh in

> > Pisces who was plagued by overactive sexuality, especially during his

> > Jupiter Mahadasa and he always complained to me that it interfered with

his

> > spiritual life!

> >

>

> Was it the Jupiter only.? As Sanjay pointed out, darapada and other

factors must

> confirm that. I can only seen this reason attributed to jupiter in pisces,

if He

> is Retrograde.. Today, I examined a chart of a lady with Rx Guru in own

sign

> pisces. Her husband had an affair which almost led to divorce.. I think,

Deva

> guru when strong will always protect..

> BEst wishes,

> Zoran

>

> OM TAT SAT

> Archive: varahamihira

> Files: varahamihira

> varahamihira/database

>

August 10, 2001

Om Gurave Namah----Dear Visti & Zoran,

Here sarajit is talking about the second from Upapada and is referring to the intrinsic nature of one who is born a bastard.. naturally, Mercury hates the Moon who although being his father is also the cause of his infamy. Instead he adores Jupiter, who although suffering the unfaithfulness of his wife and the cheating of the Moon, had the great heart to adopt Mercury as his son.

The traditional literature have debated on this issue and have provided some very vital clues to the judgment of Mercury. We find the two extreme points of Mercury as the most characterless in terms of Gemini.. having sex with one and all irrespective of caste, creed or even the more extremes like same sex and even different species of animals!! and the purest of the pure..Virgo the virgin. That is why the dictum 'if Gemini is in the second from Upapada the native shall have union with many'..does not apply to Virgo...rest later.With Best Wishes,Sanjay Rath

- Visti Larsen

varahamihira

Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:14 AM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Chart with Venus, Jupiter and Lagna Lord in 7th

Dear Sarajit, Namaste.

Your abit off with Mercury. How can mercury say no to anyone?

Mercury is said to take on the characteristics of the planets influencing it.

And as Zoran allready pointed out, Mercury is the Bastard child of the planets.

Mercury doesn't curb the passions, but makes them more frivolous. Besides curbing the passions of a married couple isn't all that bad, unless it makes either unsatisfied.

Does anyone have any charts of Bi-sexuals. I would be interested in seeing Venus, Saturn and Mercury influencing the 2nd house in Navamsa.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Sarajit Poddar

varahamihira

Wednesday, August 01, 2001 6:09 AM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Chart with Venus, Jupiter and Lagna Lord in 7th

Dear Zoran!I think there is little bit of difference in opinion with Mercury andPassion. Mercury is a planet which say "No" to sex. This is a very Jollyand happy to go planet, somewhat like childishness. You might have remembered Pt. Sanjay wrote in COVA that Emerald is nevergiven to a newly married bride. Why? Because, it curbs the sexual passion of the newly married couple.Jupiter doesn't curb the passion completely, whereas it says "do it, but,with moderation, for the fulfillment of the dharma" Thats why Venus isexalted in Jupiter's house, where the passion is pure, as moderated byJupiter. Whereas I understand, Mercury says complete "NO" to the venus'spassionPlease think over this point and comment.PranaamSarajitOn Tue, 31 Jul 2001 ahimsa wrote:> Dear Sarajit,> > >> > Though Venus is placed in the 7th should indicate, more passion, this will> > be directed towards more on a sattwa side as this happens in Sag, the> > Devaguru's house. The placement of Devaguru Jup. also directs the passion> > towards dharma. The combination of Lagna and 10th lord also shows you will> > do your work with devotion and ethiclity. You will rise in the life with> > your own effort.> >> > Guru tends to exalt venus that is why he keeps passion under control. However,> atma in 7th is alwyas a strong warning to keep the jatak out of superficial> sexual bonds, particularly in atma periods..> > >> > Moreover, Ketu aspects the same from the Lagna. Ketu always curbs the> > passion and Mercury also curbs venus's passion is in the 7th.> >> > Do note that Mercury promotes debilitation of venus and doesn't curb it but on> the conntrary when in trines to moon it gives loose morals, unless strong guru> curbs it.> > >> > In the navamsa, you have Ketu in the 2nd from the Lagnamsa, so the Venus's> > passion is curbed there too.> >> >> > This is a good point.> > > 2nd from the karakamsa is aspected by both Mercury and Venus. This shows> > that even you have inherent tendency to be sexually passionate, this is> > curbed by aspect of Mercury and hence, there is negligible chance of its> > manifestation.> >> > Do reconsider the role of Mercury> > >> > However, there are some more points to note. There is a beautiful rajayoga> > due to combination of AK Jupiter and PK Venus in the Rasi chart in the> > 7th aspected by PiK Moon from the lagna. This yoga is sure to fructify as> > the dispositor is the Atmakaraka himself, placed in his own house being> > Vargottama. Thats really great...> >> > Excellent point about atma and pitru yoga. However, never forget the role of> atmakarak> > >> > Does Ketu in 2nd gave any problem to your speech? Just enquiring!!!!> >> > Ketu in 2nd in navamsa should give prematurely graying hair and troubles in> self expression> > >> > Need not worry. Venus in seventh can do no harm to you as the planets are> > staying in Devaguru's house.> >> > What about atma? Guru is strong but it is badhakesh. Chandra as upapada lord> will have a prime say. Upapada is in 2nd house, which could give more than one> marriage/bonds. I will stop here..since I haven't taken closer look at the> chart..> BEst wishes,> Zoran> > > > OM TAT SAT> Archive: varahamihira> Files: varahamihira> varahamihira/database> > >

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