[Hare Rama Krishna] chart help thank you

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Dear Brendan,

Thank you for all the time you put into this wonderfully detailed response

to my request for help. Please be assured I will do my very best for this

little boy.

 

I am working through Mr. Rao’s book as you suggested earlier and keep notes

and calculations in pen and paper mode.

 

I am still plodding through this child’s chart, ( I got Lg as 26 Vi 54

should I start all over again?) I started with the basics so my research is

still only superficial, however I have found some interesting things using

Behari’s “ Planets in the Signs and Houses.” He fits the description of a

Virgo Lagna ( constitutionally strong, pleasing appearance, feminine nature,

sensual, easily frustrated, passionate, high anxiety, deceitful, critical,

manipulative and covetous). I know that this cannot apply to all Virgo’s

and that the rest of the chart has to be considered but it does describe

him. The other house descriptions too are startlingly good. If any one is

interested I will type them out.

An interesting thing I found was that Saturn in 5th (Capricorn) can produce

an excellent craftsman or engineer. His only pleasure seems to be making

things that only he knows the significance of and doing detailed drawings,

from many aspects, of futuristic machinery and weapons which he “remembers

from ‘before’ when he lived in the future” He doesn’t always tell the

truth, but it does beg the question, are all incarnations linear in time

like the beads on a necklace or can the necklace have loops in it? If any

one has any comments or, more especially references, concerning this I would

be very interested to hear them.

 

He is very attached to his (adoptive) mother and she to him. Is that Venus

in 4th (Scorpio)? But their relationship is full of struggles and conflict

? presence of Mars. You say “ in the arudha of 5th Venus with Rahu and

Mars is not favourable” Does this imply that his mother will have

difficulty home schooling him (with my help)?. He is not able to fit in at

any school. Her pet name for him is ‘the trickster’ …Rahu! She loves him

so much and will do anything to help him despite the obstacles and struggles

you refer to. He says that he chose to come to her.

 

You are right about the loss of his natural parents at 6 months. It was an

open adoption and his birth mother was in contact for about 6 months.

 

I has hoped that things would change for him in Jupiter dasha !

 

I spent all day with him yesterday. He has a look of other-worldliness, ?

Sun in 5th (Capricorn), and also seems to be constantly struggling to

maintain his identity.

 

Thank you for what I am learning from working through the answer you gave.

I am interested to know what you mean by “has some taint in him”.

I had discovered the Budha-Aditya yoga but could not understand how he can

be so intelligent and still not reading. Thank you for pointing out that

Mercury is hemmed in by malefics. He has no obvious mental defect but does

have an abnormal brain wave pattern which leads to momentary blackouts (not

epilepsy).

I see that Mars is his atma karaka. Is that partly responsible for all his

aggression?

 

My efforts are still only superficial, remember I am still in the

kindergarten class.

Thank you once again.

Love,

Gili

 

 

 

you can't transcend what you haven't experienced

 

 

 

>Bpfeeley

>varahamihira

>varahamihira

>Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] chart help please

>Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:21:01 EDT

>

>

>Jaya Jagganath

>

>Dear Gili,

>

>I've attached the chart in JHL format. Have you down loaded JHL from

>Narasimha's web site. It is free and you should do that. It gives many

>calculations that are not available in standard software and since you are

>an

>SJVC student you should have.

>

>Also, you should get a copy of Narasimha's book " Vedic Astrology: An

>Integrated Approach " , as well as Sanjay's books " Crux of Vedic Astrology "

>and

> " Upadesa Sutras " .

>

>We should always examine a chart from the Sun, Moon and ascendant as these

>represent the tripod of life (the soul, mind and body).

>

>If we want to examine intelligence, we should examine Moon, Mercury,

>Jupiter,

>the 5th house and also A5. Education is seen from Mercury and the 4th house

>as well as A4. D-24 should also be examined.

>

>I get 26deg 24 mins Virgo lagna with Mercury in the 5th house, conjoined

>the

>5th lord Saturn who is in his own sign. The combination is also conjoined

>and

>combusted by the Sun, the 12th lord.

>

>LL Mercury conjoined the 5th lord Saturn is a Raja yoga. Saturn is also the

>6th lord, so he has some taint in him. Mercury conjoined the Sun gives the

>well known Budha-Aditya yoga and this gives intelligence.

>

>Combustion by the 12th lord Sun does cause some affliction but in my

>opinion,

>not enough to leave him with a mental defect that hinders reading. Note

>that

>Mercury is in the sign of Gemini in the navamsa and he is hemmed-in between

>malefics. He is the lord of the navamsa lagna and he is aspected by Mars

>(8th

>lord) by graha drishti and by Moon and Jupiter by rasi drishti.

>

>The arudha of the 5th house, A5, shows how intelligence manifests in the

>world and here it is in the sign of Libra, which is aspected by Saturn, the

>5th lord. It is also aspected by Moon and Jupiter by rasi drishti. This is

>good. However, its lord Venus, is with Rahu & Mars, the 6th and 8th lord.

>This is not favorable.

>

>The real problem in the chart is the 4th house. He has Mars, Rahu and Venus

>placed here in the sign of Sagittarius. Since they are in a mutuable sign

>they aspect the lagna by rasi drishti. Mars is the 3rd and 8th lord and a

>very dangerous planet for Virgo lagna. He is a violent and rebellious

>planet

>and this is aggravated by his conjunction with Rahu, the 6th lord. It is

>tempered by Venus, the 2nd and 9th lord, and by the aspect of Jupiter from

>the 12th.

>

>Venus is the lord of AL, the arudha lagna, and this combination is in the

>8th

>from AL indicating obstacles and struggles with 4th house issues -

>education.

>Also, the arudha of the 4th itself, A4, is placed in the 8th. Jupiter, the

>lord of the 4th is retrograde in the 12th which is also A8. All this

>indicates obstruction, delay and hinderances to his education and learning

>process.

>

>You might expect that his Jupiter dasa would bring him good results but the

>above indicates that it cannot be good. Yes, Jupiter is placed in the 12th

>and aspects the Moon, giving the Gaja-Kesari yoga but on the 6/12 axis, and

>it aspects the 4th. However, the main point here is that 4th has a great

>deal

>of sambanda with the 8th and this shows the obstruction, delay,

>dissappointment in education.

>

>We can also examine D-24. We have Rahu/Ketu in the 4th with the Moon neecha

>in the 8th. A4 and A8 are conjoined in the 12th. Not favorable for

>education.

>

>Mars and Rahu in the 4th are the cause of his rebelliousness and behavior

>problems as well as his sensitivity to humiliation. He would rebel against

>any authority. There is some chance here in Rahu/Venus (begins 8/01) and

>you

>are his chance.

>

>Note that he was born into Rahu/Moon and at approx 6 mos old he entered

>Rahu

>Mars. All this led to the loss of his natural mother and father. Venus as

>9th

>lord suffers too much affliction.

>

>Hope this helps,

>Regards,

>Brendan

>

>

>

> > Dear Group Members,

> > I would be very grateful to hear your comments and insights on the

>chart

>of

> > a boy born 5th February, 1992 at 10 49 p.m. in Richmond, Virginia, USA

>77

> > W 28, 37 N 33 (Caesarian birth). I normally teach delinquent

>teenagers

> > but have been assigned him because no one wishes to deal with him. He

>has

> > been disliked by all the teachers and counsellors he has come in

>contact

> > with. I rather like him and want to help him.

> > My main question is will he read? Should I be looking at Mercury?

>Despite

> > many attempts no one has succeeded in teaching him to read. I suspect

>he

> > won’t rather than can’t as he seems highly intelligent and has an

>impeccable

> >

> > memory. If he could read he would be more in charge of his own learning

>and

> > that would suit him. He is terrified of being humiliated. He is very

> > distrustful and resentful of authority figures but so far seems to

>trust

>me,

> >

> > probably because he doesn’t see me as one. His mother (he is

>adopted)

> > welcomes any help you can give.

> > Love and thanks,

> > Gili

> > In case it helps, my birth data is 2nd March, 1944 7.30 a.m.

>Kidderminser,

> > 2. W 14 52 N 23 England

> >

>

> >

> >

> > you can't transcend what you haven't experienced

> >

> >

 

 

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In a message dated 8/29/2001 1:14:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

gilimary writes:

 

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Gili,

 

I'm including the data and chart (attached) from JHL. Yes, we get the same

lagna.

 

Let me see if I can answer some of your questions and clarify and first I'm

going to make some additional observations about his brain function,

intelligence, capacity to learn, discrimination, etc.

 

As you know, the first house rules the head region and therefore the brain.

When we examine a bhava, we must also always examine the karaka for that

bhava in question. This is a standard rule in vedic astrology.

 

Now in the case of this boy, we have Mercury, the lord of the first which

rules the brain, in the 5th conjoined with Saturn, the 5th and 6th lord and

also conjoined and combusted by the Sun, the 12th lord. Saturn rules what we

call Roga Saham (18 deg 45 min Aquarius, and incidentally the Moon is EXACTLY

conjoined this Saham) and therefore carries some potency to cause some

organic problem in the brain. In this chart, Mercury (lord of first) and Sun

(karaka of first) become important significators of disorders related to the

brain region.

 

The Sun in my view becomes a real malefic influence here. He is lord of the

12th, a dusthana, and also lord of Mrityupada (A8). The Sun is also the

nakshatra dispositor of the malefic 8th lord Mars. Thus the Sun has a potent

malefic influence on Mercury and all of this in the sign of Capricorn. The

strong influence of Saturn on Mercury often means that the person is a " late

bloomer " wrt to intelligence but more so in this case because of the

afflictions mentioned already.

 

Mercury also disposits debilitated Ketu in the 10th house and we saw that he

is afflicted in the navamsa, although placed in his own sign. The ascendant

is aspected by neecha Rahu/Ketu, Mars and also Venus. So, I would say that

Mercury in this chart does have some strong afflictions.

 

I would expect that Sadhaka Pitta is disturbed in this child. Sadaka Pitta is

the aspect of fire that determines the difference between truth and reality.

It is located in the brain and is responsible for our perceptions,

intelligence and ego function.

 

It functions through the nervous system and senses. It is the digestive fire

of the brain and senses and hence the digestion of our ideas, beliefs and

impressions. When it is out of balance we suffer from confusion and delusions

and become unable to distinguish fantasy from reality... our power of

discrimination. Our intelligence or buddhi functions through it. It can lead

to emotional disturbances, low intelligence, decreased decisiveness when out

of balance and can even cause paranoia. I believe that this child suffers

from the latter.

 

Yes, Saturn's influence on the 5th house and Mercury does mean technical

ability and he may be more comfortable reading about things related to the

practical world. This if further coroborated with Mars and Rahu angular in

his chart.

 

Now back to the 4th house. Mars disposits Gulika (28 Sc 02) and he conjoined

Maandi (9 Sg 34). Gulika and Maandi are two Upagrahas and are very malefic

influences. So we have Mars, neecha Rahu and Maandi in the 4th house. Yes we

have Venus, the 9th lord and the aspect of Jupiter, indicating a mother who

want to help, but again from what I said in my previous mail, the malefic

influences are too strong. The 4th house is also A6.

 

More can be seen in the varga chart.

 

I do not think the mother is the right person to be teaching this child. He

needs help and maybe you can help him. Yes, all these influences can make him

devious and a rebellious trickster.

 

When Mars become the AK planet it does not mean that the person follows an

angry path and has anger in him at all. It depends on how Mars/AK is disposed.

 

A lot of this is new for you and I won't go further with it.

 

Please ask question on any terminology to clarify.

 

Regards,

Brendan

 

 

 

February 5, 1992

 

Time: 22:49:00

 

Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)

 

Longitude: 77 W 27' 38 "

Latitude: 37 N 33' 13 "

 

 

 

Lagna 26 Vi 54'

Sun 22 Cp 51' AmK

 

Moon 18 Aq 45' MK

 

Mars 27 Sg 05' AK

 

Mercury 18 Cp 19' PK

 

Jupiter ® 18 Le 44' PiK

 

Venus 20 Sg 49' BK

 

Saturn 16 Cp 21' GK

 

Rahu 14 Sg 08' DK

 

Ketu 14 Ge 08'

 

> Dear Brendan,

> Thank you for all the time you put into this wonderfully detailed response

> to my request for help. Please be assured I will do my very best for this

> little boy.

>

> I am working through Mr. Rao’s book as you suggested earlier and keep

notes

> and calculations in pen and paper mode.

>

> I am still plodding through this child’s chart, ( I got Lg as 26 Vi 54

> should I start all over again?) I started with the basics so my research

is

> still only superficial, however I have found some interesting things using

> Behari’s “ Planets in the Signs and Houses.†He fits the description

of

a

> Virgo Lagna ( constitutionally strong, pleasing appearance, feminine

nature,

>

> sensual, easily frustrated, passionate, high anxiety, deceitful, critical,

> manipulative and covetous). I know that this cannot apply to all Virgo’s

> and that the rest of the chart has to be considered but it does describe

> him. The other house descriptions too are startlingly good. If any one

is

> interested I will type them out.

> An interesting thing I found was that Saturn in 5th (Capricorn) can

produce

>

> an excellent craftsman or engineer. His only pleasure seems to be making

> things that only he knows the significance of and doing detailed drawings,

> from many aspects, of futuristic machinery and weapons which he “remembers

> from ‘before’ when he lived in the future†He doesn’t always tell

the

> truth, but it does beg the question, are all incarnations linear in time

> like the beads on a necklace or can the necklace have loops in it? If any

> one has any comments or, more especially references, concerning this I

would

>

> be very interested to hear them.

>

> He is very attached to his (adoptive) mother and she to him. Is that

Venus

> in 4th (Scorpio)? But their relationship is full of struggles and

conflict

>

> ? presence of Mars. You say “ in the arudha of 5th Venus with Rahu and

> Mars is not favourable†Does this imply that his mother will have

> difficulty home schooling him (with my help)?. He is not able to fit in

at

> any school. Her pet name for him is ‘the trickster’ …Rahu! She loves

him

> so much and will do anything to help him despite the obstacles and

struggles

>

> you refer to. He says that he chose to come to her.

>

> You are right about the loss of his natural parents at 6 months. It was

an

> open adoption and his birth mother was in contact for about 6 months.

>

> I has hoped that things would change for him in Jupiter dasha !

>

> I spent all day with him yesterday. He has a look of other-worldliness, ?

> Sun in 5th (Capricorn), and also seems to be constantly struggling to

> maintain his identity.

>

> Thank you for what I am learning from working through the answer you gave.

 

> I am interested to know what you mean by “has some taint in himâ€.

> I had discovered the Budha-Aditya yoga but could not understand how he can

> be so intelligent and still not reading. Thank you for pointing out that

> Mercury is hemmed in by malefics. He has no obvious mental defect but

does

> have an abnormal brain wave pattern which leads to momentary blackouts

(not

> epilepsy).

> I see that Mars is his atma karaka. Is that partly responsible for all

his

> aggression?

>

> My efforts are still only superficial, remember I am still in the

> kindergarten class.

> Thank you once again.

> Love,

> Gili

>

 

 

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