[Hare Rama Krishna] [Jaya Jagannath] Battle of Kuruksetra

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Dear Jaan,

 

Hare Rama Krsna. Namaste.

 

I'm resending my two old letters from 15-16 July which never made it to

the list because of problems I met with the techmas being full etc.. I

finally solved the problem by unsubscribing and resubscribing again with

another e-mail address, so I hope it works now.

 

My letters deal with the subject of dating the Battle of Kuruksetra as

well as the ayanamsa system I'm using.

 

>he seems to be pretty convinced of the date. does it hold water?

>my placalc ephemeris wont go back before 5400BC.

 

>Saptarshis stay in one Nakshtra for 100 years, and there are 27

>Nakshatras. Hence Saptarshis would be again in Magha 2700 years later

>during 4th century BC.

 

The dates proposed by this Dr.Vartak do indeed not hold water, since

looking at a map of the stars at present, we would see that Saptarsi line

is now in Uttara Phalguni, just about the start of Virgo.

I have learned that at the time of the start of kali-yuga and the

mahabharat war the Saptarsi were in Magha (the Bhagavata Purana states the

same), thus that should give us a multiple of 2,700 years, probably 5,400

years. And thus the proposed dates by Dr. Vartak will not match.

Further I learned that the rasi of Simha at the time of the Vedas started

from the star Magha, i.e. 0° Simha. If we look at the tropical zodiac as

we use nowadays, we will find the star Magha at about 10° Simha. Wherefrom

such a difference? Indeed, as we have changed the Julian calender into the

Gregorian calender, the calender has been adjusted by 10 days (the next

day after Oct. 4th became Oct.15th in the year 1582), this to match up

with the gradual change of the tropical zodiac according to the

precession. Now, if we calculate, as the Bhagavata Purana describes that

from Magha to Uttarashadha the time went on 1,200 years, i.e. 1,200/2,700

x 360°= 160°, and that is exactly what we find when we take into account

the ayanamsa changes up to date. I.o.w. 160° - our present ayanamsa value

for the year 1999 should give the distance of 160° up to Uttarashadha

naksatra. And that should give a defining value for our present-day

ayanamsa, which will be about 21°25'.

 

I have calculated this with the help of a star map, giving exact positions

of each star visible with the naked eye, and checked also the positions of

Jupiter and Venus as they are situated in regard to the background of

stars, and found this ayanamsa value to be correct. Of course, discussion

can be there as to which star we accept as the 0° Aries, it was pointed

out to me that it was Revati, but can we be sure which star was recognised

as Revati during the Vedic time? I learned Revati is corresponding to zeta

Piscii, is it the one between alpha Piscii and eita Piscii or the one next

to that? I accept it is this last one, as it corresponds precisely to the

10° switch in the tropical zodiac. And as such we get my earlier proposed

ayanamsa of 2°07'18 " subtracted from Lahiri. Please note the remarkable

difference with BV Raman and Usha-sashi ayanamsa systems: Usha-sashi

reckons 3°48' difference and BV Raman 1°27' with Lahiri, now 3°48'-1°27'=

plusminus 2°07'. Could be coincidence, but it corresponds quite strongly

with the distance between the stars at the end of the constellation of

Pisces. I have been checking the other rasis as well with this starting

point of the zodiac and found Castor on the edge between Gemini and

Cancer, Pollux (Punarvasu) at 3°20' Cancer, Magha at 10° Leo, Spica

(Chitra) exactly on the edge of Virgo-Libra, Vega (Abhijit) on the edge of

Sagittarius-Capricorn, so it looks quite acceptable.

 

So my advise is, take a star map at hand and check these stars and look

what is the exact position of the planets to their background, and there

can be no doubt about what is the ayanamsa value at present.

 

Another point, to go back to the subject of dating the great Mahabharat

war, is that Saptarsi line shows a time of about 5,400 years ago, which

corresponds well to the prediction of Achyuta Das that in the year 2000 a

new Satya-chakra would start for 480 years. This cycle of chakras repeats

itself after every 1,200 years. 5,400 though is not a multiple of 1,200,

yet 6,000 is, and 6,000 - 600 = 5,400. Also, a nakshatra is reckoned as

13°20' which is 12° + 1°20' or 12° + 1/10th. Thus it may be concluded that

the time was given for multiples of 12° and thus we should be looking in

the direction of 6,000 years ago instead of 5,400. One complete circle of

the Saptarsi thus becomes 3,000 years and the kali-yuga started about

6,000 years ago, which corresponds better to a calender which has been

found in the pyramid of Gizeh starting 3,999 BC and ending on Sept 17th,

2001. Btw, Sept 17th 2001 is Amavasya, starting the pratipat of the month

of Asvayujya, in Vedic calculation the start of a new year. It is also the

start of new year in the Hebrew calender, which counts the year 5,762.

This seems to give an important hint to the start of kali-yuga, which is

not as far back as Dr. Vartak stated, yet is more earlier than the

generally accepted date of 3102 BC.

 

Hope this will shed some light on the much discussed topic of the dating

of the Kuruksetra Battle.

 

Your sishya,

Dhira Krsna dasa