Prophet Mohd.'s chart

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OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

JAYA JAGANNATHA

 

Namaste Shailesh,

 

You wrote: ....So why not accept Solai's idea that each one on the list select one chart which he, or she, feels fits the known facts and comment upon it....

 

I didn't mean to take each one's preferred chart and analyse. Each one of us must rectify with the life events and give the justification for selecting the year and lagna. Not for analysis.

 

Though the exercise deviates from schedule, we will arrive at the correct chart at the end. It is always better to analyse with most accurate chart, which is acceptable to many. This exercise lead us to the understanding of different calendar systems, it is another ancillary lesson.

 

We will conclude mostly today.

 

Thanks

Solai Kannan

Shailesh [scchadha]Wednesday, October 10, 2001 4:14 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Prophet Mohd.'s chart

 

Namaste Sanjay ji,

 

One thought which I request you to consider.

 

The Calendar of Islam must have originated after Islam religion was founded by the Prophet. Therefore, it is most likely that Prophet's birth date was originally recorded, if it was, as per the then prevailing calendar system and subsequently converted to the Islamic calendar dates.

 

We have no means to establish how the dates were originally recorded and whether the conversion was correct or not.

 

In this process, we are diverting from the whole purpose of this lesson and the exercise, and missing the dates set by you.

 

In any case, the main purpose of the exercise is to learn the Jyotish principles. So why not accept Solai's idea that each one on the list select one chart which he, or she, feels fits the known facts and comment upon it.

 

This is my humble submission and suggestion.

 

With best regards,

 

Shailesh

 

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Sanjay Rath

varahamihira

Tuesday, October 09, 2001 9:35 PM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Prophet Mohd.'s chart

 

 

Om Gurave Namah--------------------------Dear Solai,

Read this months Jyotish News carefully. I have given this to help you in your calculations as well as to help you understand the calenndar. In addition, here ia a small note on the Calendar of Islam:

The Crescent Moon BY DAVID HARPER, PH.D. F.R.A.S.There is one calendar which is central to the lives of a fifth of the world's people and which owes nothing to Roman Emperors or Popes. It is a calendar of great simplicity, yet one whose observance has taxed the expertise of astronomers and mathematicians for over a thousand years. It is the Islamic calendar, and it is based solely upon the phases of the Moon. The Islamic year contains twelve lunar months. It is roughly 355 days long, and moves around the seasons in a cycle of about 33 years. Each year, in the Islamic calendar, the seasons begin 10 or 11 days later than in the previous year. The beginning of the month is marked by the sighting of the new crescent Moon by a reliable witness. It is not enough to calculate the moment of astronomical New Moon. The crescent itself must be seen in the evening sky.

[RATH: Thus, you will notice that the birth of the Prophet was on the 12th day of Rabie Al Awal yet the Tithi was Chaturdasi as claimed by you! Why, 12th day means the 12th day from the signt of the crescent Moon (Is this dwiteeya and not pratipada?)]Over the centuries, Muslim scholars and astronomers have attempted to establish rules to predict when the crescent Moon is likely to be visible. Such rules include criteria based upon the age of the Moon, the height of the Moon at sunset, and the length of time between Sunset and Moonset, or combinations of these. Computers have been enlisted in the continuing search for a reliable rule, and national observatories and almanac offices are routinely asked to adjudicate in cases of disagreement. The question is especially important at the beginning and end of Ramadan, the month of fasting. Best WishesSanjay Rath

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Solai Kannan <solai

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Tuesday, October 09, 2001 10:50 AM

[Hare Rama Krishna] Prophet Mohd.'s chart

OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAHJAYA JAGANNATHAPranam Gurudeva,I made my own calculations and found the following.The Prophet Mohd.'s birthday was celebrated on 4thJune 2001, 12th day of Rabie Al Awal, Jeyestha lunarmonth - Shukla Chaturdasi thithi.2001 - 570 = 14311431 x 365.2425 = 522662.02 days.Approx. Lunar month = 29.529167 days (average).522662.02 / 29.529167 = 17,700 lunar months17,700/12 = 1475 muslim lunar years.Fortunately for the year 570 we got the round figureof 1475, going backward from 2001. That means dates of year 2001 muslimmonths and 570 years months will be same. Accordingly,4th June 570 is a Shukla Chaturdasi of Jeyestha lunarmonth.There is no Adhika Masa falling in 569, 570 and 571.Hence, Jeyestha month, Shukla Chaturdasi is the date ofbirth of Prophet Mohd. Now, we have to decide, whichyear is correct and the correct Lagna and Lagnamsa.Anyhow, I am working on this. Meanwhile, for thebenefit of others I am attaching the 3 years chart forhis DOB. List members can come up with the correctyear and lagna based on the life events of Prophet.NOTE: Time of attached chart is not correct.ThanksYour sisyaSolai KannanPS:Namaste Visti, Muslim New month starts from 3rd day from New moon. So,12th day falls on Chaturdasi. As we had it on 4th June 2001. I checked itfor many years.