The Prophet(Solai)

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OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

JAYA JAGANNATHA

 

Namaste friends,

 

Even after the small explanation, if any one is hurt, irrespective of

my view and stand, I should withdraw my statement. I apologize for

the statement and I withdraw. For me SJVC and their feeling are far

more important than my view. Still I didn't mean any ill feeling. I

can argue with Visti's points, that is not going to help anybody. So,

I request the members to drop this thread. What I meant is Prophet

Mohd was not driven by his own Atma or Atmakaraka as in the case of

other saints or religious teachers.

 

Thanks

Solai Kannan

 

 

varahamihira, " Visti Larsen " <vlarsen@h...> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna!

> ---------------

> Dear Solai,

> I'm going to take another bite at your statement, as I can't accept

it.

> The Prophet Mohammed was an ordinary man, just like you me, Bill

Clinton,

> Gurudeva and Sage Parasara! Yes they are/were all Human!

>

> The Prophet recieved his guidance through sleep states and was very

afraid,

> that he might have been insane, but later on he understood the

origin of

> these messages, and started listening so to speak..

>

> Now.. His devotion became so strong, that at some point he even was

banished

> from his tribe because they couldn't tolerate his preachings.. these

> preachings were to worship god as one entity, instead of the Idol-

Worship!

> Remember Krishna at Govinda hill?

>

> And previous to this banishing, he was beaten, spat upon, almost

killed a

> few times, by those who couldn't tolerate his teachings. This was

all set up

> by his Uncle. Two of his Daughters had to give up their marriage

due to his

> strong devotion.. Muhammed never struck any of his enemies, and

always

> forgave them.

>

> Muhammed, then spent years in poverty, and wandering from place to

place to

> find solitude in a tribe, so he could survive.. during this whole

period, he

> was in direct danger of being killed as one had no tribe to protect

one. His

> own tribe, the " Quransh " gave him and his founded religion troubles

till the

> end of life.

>

> Now throughout all this he kept on teaching the worship of only 1

God.

> So i'm going to ask you withdraw your statement, as you're surely

> underestimating a man that wrote the Koran, and founded the basis

of Islam..

> His name is known throughout the world.

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> solai@t...

> varahamihira

> Thursday, October 11, 2001 1:03 PM

> Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Lesson:The Prophet

>

>

> OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

> JAYA JAGANNATHA

>

> Namaste Lakshmi,

>

> You have mistaken me. I am not criticising Prophet Mohd or I am

not

> against any religion. His teachings are simple and understandable

to

> ordinary man. In fact I adore him. He was like an instrument. Of

> course phylosophically, all are instruments only. When analysing

the

> Atmakaraka, I don't think that he really had such Atma direction

as

> other saints had. He was in fact afraid of the divine teaching

when

> he first heard it. This is what I meant. So, please, let us end

this

> thread of communication here itself. Continuing this will be

> unhealthy for the list. In fact 90% of the people around me are

> muslims. When I grew also, I grew among the muslims. My best

freinds

> are muslims.

>

> Thanks

> Solai Kannan

>

> varahamihira, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh>

> wrote:

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > ----------------

> > Namaste Solai,

> >

> > Thanks for your appreciation. Re:the following

> > statement:

> >

> > " As we all know he is only an ordinary man. He was

> > not a saint or gnanayogi or even Karmayogi. These are

> > all very clear in all these 6 charts. "

> >

> > The prophet himself never claimed to be above

> > ordinary. At best, he always described himself as a

> > messenger. Infact, in my analysis I wanted to

> > highlight the inner struggle of an ordinary man, who

> > was chosen to be the prophet...who had to grow into a

> > prophet.

> >

> > I think a person who had inflenced 1/5th of the

> > mankind so profoundly for so long does have some

> > greatness. His beliefs/actions might differ radically

> > from ours, but I feel the correct approach would be to

> > understand & appreciate differences(due to

> > cultural/geological factors) rather than judge.

> > Infact, some of the finest human beings I have known

> > are devout muslims, and I prefer to think that they

> > represent the real Islam than the Talibans or

> > terrorists.

> >

> > Now, at the risk of sounding blasphemous, I say that

> > many non-Hindus consider Lord krishna also to be a

> > petty tribal king, a consummate politician, a

> > womaniser, a war mongeror etc (sounds remarkably like

> > the Prophet!). Only those who've gone beyond the

> > externals, opened their hearts to Him and experienced

> > the magnificence of Bhagavadgita know Him to be the

> > Supreme Teacher...na antham na madhyam na

> > punasthavaadim, pashyami visweswara viswaroopa..

> >

> > Remember Solai, Lord Krishna's main message is of

> > universal love, advaita(oneness) and empathy.

> >

> > Sorry for the li'l lecture (blame Jupiter in

> > lagna!)and, yes, I most definitely look forward to

> > reading your analysis. I am sure there will be many

> > learning points.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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