Guest guest Posted November 4, 2001 Report Share Posted November 4, 2001 OM SRI GURAVE NAMAHDear Lakshmi Devi, With Gemini Lagna, Saturn would be in the third from Arudha Lagna and its dasa would be very beneficial and nice (i.e. in addition to its ninth Lordship in exaltation) whereas with Cancer Lagna the situation of this dire malefic in exaltation and afflicting the Lagna and Lagna Lord and ninth Lord as well as affliction to AL and placement in AL would have sullied your fair name, sent you into the wildernedd and caused all kinds of problems. In fact, with Cancer Lagna this represents the CURSE OF A BRAHMIN.This is the big difference.Best RegardsSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.com - Laksmi (Lynne Kary) varahamihira Sunday, November 04, 2001 12:30 PM [Hare Rama Krishna] Assignment-examine own chart from cancerlagna Jaya Jagannatha!Hare Krishna. Pranams. Dear Sanjay and class, I have thought about your reply(below)in response to my inquiry regarding possible change in lagna.. How to explain the guru/cnadala conj in Navamsa lagna, of the cancer Rising Chart in question.?( Chart enclosed as attach.) Sanjay, you had said "I would have easily agreed had it not been for the guru/chandala yoga in the navamsa lagna.Rather hard to digest about you, actually this yoga causes a person to murder another sometimes using black magic or other means." But i am capable of murder(my own) and have spent alot of my life thinking about it( suicide),as I mentioned in my earlier post. Before we reject a cancer lagna we can check and see if it is related to my own self destructive tendancies, rather than towards another.( I hope this doesnt bother anyone, but astrologers do have to examine these things.And any way Im just trying to learn so please take it with a grain of salt.)Of course there are good things in my chart too, but just to explore this as an explantion for Jup/rahu conj in the navamsa chart of cancer Lagna.. We learned form COVA and Upadesa sutras that the condition of death is to been seen from 3rd from AL,Lagna and AK.,and also we should check the 8th from lagna, and 8th lord. In both gemini and cancer lagnas certain placements remain the same. And jup,sun,moon and venus are vargot, and AK is still Sat, with taurus as karakamsa lagna, so either way so we have some consistancy. Let us look at both lagnas to determine for both, the cause of death. In the cancer rising chart- 3rd from cancer lagna is virgo,aspected by mars,(and rahu by rasi drishti) AL isSat/Moon in libra, and 3rd from there is Rahu in sag, aspected by Sat(and Mars by rashi drishi) additionally, 3rd from AK is again Rahu in sag so a repeat of above.This gives a pretty strong malefic cause of death.Rahu,Sat and Mars are all indicating bad end. In the cancer chart we also have the following to consider.- The 6th lord is in the Lagna showing some self opposition. The 8th lord is conjunct the LL moon.(this also shows state of mind), 8th lord sat is aspecting Lagna, and the 8th house. The 12th house shows loss to self and there is Ketu and Ketu is also aspecting Moon and Sat.in the 4th,and the 8th house itself. Mars is also aspecting lagna lord. In navamsa chart of the cancer chart, using cancer as the navamsa lagna-- 3rd from the navamsa lagna is Mars in virgo. Moon is in the AL and 3rd from AL is sag aspected by Mars (from rashi drishti.) And 3rd from AK is Rahu/Jup in sign of cancer( the moon/mind) I think this shows strong potential for murder of the self=suicide due to affliction from spirits/curse. But, lets say we dont like the way the way cancer lagna looks and we want to check out the gemini rising chart.... In gemini chart- First thing of interest is the lord of the first is in the 8th, and the 8th lord Sat is conj. Moon. 3rd from lagna is leo, unuoccuopied. AL is leo and 3rd from it is, Sat/Moon in libra, aspected by Ketu and Mars. Sat is AK and third from him is Rahu in sag. We see similiar conditions. Mars aspects the lagna and Ketu is in the lagna. If we look at the navamsa chart of gemini rising from vantage point of karakamsa lagna( since even navamsa lagna rasi could be of question) we notice that SatAK aspects the 3rd from itself,= the Rahu/Jup conjunction in cancer(sign ofMoon/mind). Other points of significance.In my chart regardless of lagna are indications of curses, and affliction from spirits. When rahu is in the sign of sag the curse is from a priest astrologer,etc. When the Moon,lagna its lord are afflicted by malefics spirits can cause grief. Since all the malefics are in trines to karakamsa lagna in both charts we know that from previous birth I was involved in mantras,tantras,etc.The aspect of benefics is supposed to counter this and the magic is used to benefit people. Merc is in karakamsa lagna and Venus, lord of the karakamsa lagna is aspecting karakamsa lagna from the 7th. But that also means that the karakamsa LL is BEING aspected by Sat AND by Jup/Rahu! When a benefic like jup is conj rahu,aspected by the malefics, and at the same time aspecting these trines, the person succumbs/dies by this magic also. The conclusion- The hard part for me is that most events in my life can be explained by both lagnas so maybe this exercise doesnt prove much either except, both charts show strong tendancy for self destruction. We would think this would occur in periods associated with these planets ,positions. i actually did almost end my life in Jup maha Dasha. And thoughts of it were strong in all the planetary periods associated with these planets. I think this curse to die by suicide is from bad association(with tantrics) and conduct(using it myself) in past life. I think the the fact the jup is retrograde has something to do with my not ending up going through with it. In Jup Maha Dasha, even though the worst period of hopelessness was in the beginning of Jup Maha( the time I actually purchased the gun) -the second half of the Dasha brought relief from spirits when i entered the temple,started chanting and doing devotional service,was initiated etc.Or maybe it was the AK Sat himself who is heavily involved in all this and has his foot on jup house(sag) and on Jup himself.,and on Rahu. Sat has been my best planet in many ways,and been the nicest to me during his Maha Dasha Im in now. Thank-you, Lakshmi devi K. Hare Krishna. P.S.I was very happy to receive your NarayanaDasha book today in the mail. For anyone interested JDR ventures has them. OM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraFiles: varahamihiravarahamihira/database Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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