Lesson 7: Avasthas, Excercise 1(Attempt )

November 12, 2001

Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha-------------------

Dear Gurudeva and List, Namaste.

Please accept my attempt at the Avastha-lesson.

I developed an excel sheet, from the calculations given, and have used it for the screen-dumps seen bellow. Please notify me if you can't see the output of Avastha and strengths.. etc.

All calculations are done using; Lahiri Ayanamsa, and the epheremis from Jaggannath Hora Lite, 4.0.

Excercise 1: Sanjay Rath; 7th Aug 1963, 21:14:50 (IST) 83e58, 21n27.

No

Name

Lagna

12

L

Jamna Nak

24

M

Ghati

40

G

Name

4

sa

Graha

Avastha

Avastha No.

Keywords

Strength

1

Su

Sabhaa

7

Being at an assembly

Dristhi

1

2

Mo

Prakaasana

4

Shining

ViChesta

0

3

Ma

Sabhaa

7

Being at an assembly

ViChesta

0

4

Me

Aagama

8

Coming/Acquiring

Chesta

2

5

Ju

Prakaasana

4

Shining

Dristhi

1

6

Ve

Prakaasana

4

Shining

Chesta

2

7

Sa

Sayana

1

Lying down, resting

Chesta

2

8

Ra

Aagama

8

Coming/Acquiring

ViChesta

0

9

Ke

Prakaasana

4

Shining

ViChesta

0

(C x P x A)+L+M+G

Su

Helps others, possesses wealth, gems and lands, virtous, very strong, affectionate and kind.

Sun is in 5th house, in Sabhaa Avastha, with medium power, being 6th lord. Hence matters like, children, jyotish, etc, were approached with good spirit in the mannor of Sun's avastha. Sun is 6th lord, so alot of discussion and strife, prevails in this field. As Sun is Bhratri Karaka, this sets the scene for his understanding of the essence of 'Guru'.

Mo

Famous in world, virtous, royal patronage, royal insignia, wealth, wealth, luxuries, regular visits to shrines, many ornaments.

Moon is Shining, however with little strength, and in Dusthana. As Moon is disposited by Retro-Saturn; the giver of the curse in the chart, the Moon suffers greatly and its auspicious state is almost nullified. Moon is also Chara Matri Karaka, showing that this depression could have brought him closer to the essence of mother-hood and protection.. Brought him Closer to Krishna as well.

Ma

A scholar in a king's court, wealthy, honorable, charitable;[if exalted] skilled at wars, succesful, upholds dharma; [in trines] unlearned; [in 12th] devoid of happiness from wife and children.

Mars is in Kendra in Marana Karaka Sthana, and devoid of Strength to "shine", in activity. As Mars lords Ghati Lagna and Hora Lagna, and is 9th lord in Badhaka Sthana, its hard for him to achieve the fortunes of Fame & wealth. Reason is due to forgetting worship of Hanuman in past birth. Mars in 7th from Jupiter who is in Lagna, shows that a terrible anger, could actually tilt the scales at some point and bring him the fortunes of Fame and Wealth. As Mars is in Badhaka Sthana, this would be a selfless action, and give more problems to him.

Me

Serves mean people and makes money, two sons, one daughter who brings good name.

Mercury is Badhakesh and is placed in 6th house. Mercury has full-power to perform and makes him serve mean people, who cause problems for him. But then why does one do so? Rahu is in Gemini(4th)-exalted indicating a building with a high purpose, in science and education. Mercury disposits Mars in 7th, showing the unsurmountable anger that may arise.

Ju

Virtous, pure happiness and comfort, splendorous, visits holy places of krishna; [if exalted] excellent fame in the whole world, very opulent.

Jupiter is in Lagna in Prakasaana Avastha, with medium power, and in Simhasaanamsa(using Parivritti Dwaya Hora). It is also stationary. As its in Kendra to Arudha Lagna, it could very well give high fame and oppulence.. The good qualities of our guru are allready prevailing, and theres not much need of discussion.

Ve

[exalted or in own/friendly rasi] has a conduct similar to a mighty elephant; equal to a king, interested in poetry, arts and music.

Venus is in 5th house in Prakasaana Avastha in an enemies house, however watery Rasi. As Venus has power, it will bring the results of Raja Yoga in Jyotish, and other 5th house indications. Sun in 5th limits children, so the full raja yoga may come in knowing the Past-present and future..No doubt that Sanjay is a strong and big contender in the Jyotish-scene.

Sa

Hungry, thirst, diseases in childhood, wealthy later.

Saturn is Atmakaraka, and has full power. This complies with the fact that First the person learns from troubles, and then later on the person learns from these actions and performs great conduct. Wealth can also mean all the senses.

Ra

Financial losses, fear of enemies and litigation, depressed, seperated from own people, emaciated, manipulative.

Rahu has no power, and is in 4th house, lording 12th house. As its exalted the building of this magnificent structure, is going to take time, and will be full of worries.. Spend more time making wife happy(Darakaraka).

Ke

Wealthy, righteous, lives abroad, enthusiastic, genuine, serves the king.

No strength for Ketu either, hence little consideration in this field. Ketu is exalted and joined with Arudha Lagna, showing that people percieve his as Ganesh(he also looks abit like him ), and that his approach to the world, is in full service to his guru's(lords 9th).

Phew!.. Excercise 2 will follow shortly, i would greatly appreciate all corrections, and furthermore elaborations!

Best wishes, Visti.

November 13, 2001

Dear Visti,

When analyzing avastas, there is a hint in Satya Jatakam, given under

Deeptadhi avasta, have a look at it please, and tell me what you see and

think..I Didn't quite understand why you didn't include all other avastas?

I also couldn't perceive all avasta information in this mail Regarding

Sanjay's chart, I have a few points. Do see it below:

Sun is in 5th house, in Sabhaa Avastha,

with medium power, being 6th lord. Hence matters like, children, jyotish,

etc, were approached with good spirit in the mannor of Sun's avastha. Sun

is 6th lord, so alot of discussion and strife, prevails in this field.

As Sun is Bhratri Karaka, this sets the scene for his understanding of

the essence of 'Guru'.

ZORAN: The key point regarding the Sun is that it Rules 9th house from

AL, bringing fortune in this world of maya from 8th house matters, such

as jyotisha and occult, being reinforced in 5th from Lagna. 5th is also

a house of paternal grandfather.. You know the whole story about Him, Don't

you? Sun in 5th house is naturally friendly to Lagnesh Guru, and in 5th

the jyotisha classics say that person would be so intelligent that would

understand everything in this world...Sun is furtrher involved in Matsya

Yoga.. Do see Parashara

Moon is Shining, however with little strength, and in

Dusthana. As Moon is disposited by Retro-Saturn; the giver of the curse

in the chart, the Moon suffers greatly and its auspicious state is almost

nullified. Moon is also Chara Matri Karaka, showing that this depression

could have brought him closer to the essence of mother-hood and protection..

Brought him Closer to Krishna as well.ZORAN: good point about Matri

Karaka. However, Moon and Mercury are involved in Saraswati Yoga, giving

shishyas from abroad and blessings of Shri Saraswati. Moon gives sacrifying

spirit on the side of mother, and Sanjay concerning his own children.

Ma

A

scholar in a king's court, wealthy, honorable, charitable;[if exalted]

skilled at wars, succesful, upholds dharma; [in trines] unlearned; [in

12th] devoid of happiness from wife and children.

Mars is in Kendra in Marana Karaka Sthana, and devoid of

Strength to "shine", in activity. As Mars lords Ghati Lagna and Hora Lagna,

and is 9th lord in Badhaka Sthana, its hard for him to achieve the fortunes

of Fame & wealth. Reason is due to forgetting worship of Hanuman in

past birth. Mars in 7th from Jupiter who is in Lagna, shows that a terrible

anger, could actually tilt the scales at some point and bring him the fortunes

of Fame and Wealth. As Mars is in Badhaka Sthana, this would be a selfless

action, and give more problems to him.ZORAN: You are right about

bad placement of Mars. Again, I feel that venus in 8th along with Sun in

8th from AL, opposed by Rx Saturn are cause for wealth problems. Mars is

involved in both DharmaKarma Yoga and Guru Mangala Yoga, thus I see not

much evil in his placement.Other comments are very good.

Mercury is Badhakesh and is placed in 6th house. Mercury

has full-power to perform and makes him serve mean people, who cause problems

for him. But then why does one do so? Rahu is in Gemini(4th)-exalted indicating

a building with a high purpose, in science and education. Mercury disposits

Mars in 7th, showing the unsurmountable anger that may arise.ZORAN:

Why would he serve bad people? Do explain your logic. Rahu point is good.

I feel that Mercury is more involved in some health and other related problems

to father. Otherwise, mercury is involved in Saraswati Yoga with moon. Jupiter

is in Lagna in Prakasaana Avastha, with medium power, and in Simhasaanamsa(using

Parivritti Dwaya Hora). It is also stationary. As its in Kendra to Arudha

Lagna, it could very well give high fame and oppulence.. The good qualities

of our guru are allready prevailing, and theres not much need of discussion.ZORAN:

No comments on this. Good points. Venus is in 5th house

in Prakasaana Avastha in an enemies house, however watery Rasi. As Venus

has power, it will bring the results of Raja Yoga in Jyotish, and other

5th house indications. Sun in 5th limits children, so the full raja yoga

may come in knowing the Past-present and future..No doubt that Sanjay is

a strong and big contender in the Jyotish-scene.ZORAN: Venus in

5th along with Sun makes a person shine in knowledge. 8th lord in 5th is

excellent for jyotish as you noted, again inherited knowledge 8th house

from lagna and AL, in 5th from lagna(grandfather) receiving dristi from

Shani in 11th atma.Venus again takes part in Matsya Yoga. Along with sun

will bring some heart disease, don't you think so? Otherwise, governmental

service is indicated as well. Saturn is Atmakaraka,

and has full power. This complies with the fact that First the person learns

from troubles, and then later on the person learns from these actions and

performs great conduct. Wealth can also mean all the senses.ZORAN:

excellentRahu has no power, and is in 4th house, lording

12th house. As its exalted the building of this magnificent structure,

is going to take time, and will be full of worries.. Spend more time making

wife happy(Darakaraka). ZORAN: Do pay attention that Rahu is

in 7th from AL< perfect spirituality. Again forms Matsya yoga. I would

say ":make your wife happy, from the point that Mercury which is Ishta

Devata rules 7th house, and further add, make your mum more happy. Not

from Rahu alone.. Rahu is darakarak which gives some unpleasent experiences

itself on the front of marriage, further reinforeced by opposition from

AL.

No strength for Ketu either, hence little consideration

in this field. Ketu is exalted and joined with Arudha Lagna, showing that

people percieve his as Ganesh(he also looks abit like him ), and that

his approach to the world, is in full service to his guru's(lords 9th).

ZORAN: Excellent. Ketu is further in DharmaAmsa exalted... true

Tapaswi

I may observe that you have come a long way Visti!

Best wishes,

Zoran

November 13, 2001

Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

------------------

Dear Zoran,

Thankyou for your comments.

Likewise i have answers to your comments.

<<When analyzing avastas, there is a hint in Satya Jatakam, given under Deeptadhi avasta, have a look at it please, and tell me what you see and think..>>

a) ShadBala is considered to see the extent of the planets influence in the persons life.

b) Distinction in events, between Uché and Moolatrikona Rasi's.

Just to add, that the avasthas mentioned are basic; "Graha Avasthas".

I'm not sure what your hinting at, please elaborate?

btw. my translation of Satya Jatakam was by SK Raman, Ranjan Publications.

<<I Didn't quite understand why you didn't include all other avastas? >>

I included only the Sayana Avasthas.. Didn't you see them all?

<<I also couldn't perceive all avasta information in this mail Regarding Sanjay's chart, I have a few points. Do see it below: >>

Try viewing the message in the -groups archives, you should get many pretty screen-dumps.

varahamihira/message/7639

ZORAN: The key point regarding the Sun is that it Rules 9th house from AL, bringing fortune in this world of maya from 8th house matters, such as jyotisha and occult, being reinforced in 5th from Lagna. 5th is also a house of paternal grandfather.. You know the whole story about Him, Don't you? Sun in 5th house is naturally friendly to Lagnesh Guru, and in 5th the jyotisha classics say that person would be so intelligent that would understand everything in this world...Sun is furtrher involved in Matsya Yoga.. Do see Parashara

Visti: Yes Matsya Yoga is there; "Saving knowledge in the last minute and teaching it to devotees, hence preserving it for future generations".

We've been taught that benefics in 8th from Arudha Lagna, give fortune. Hence Venus gives fortune, and is 8th lord from Lagna; Occult. Venus is Pitri Karaka, hence the Occult-Fortune comes through activities with elders. 5th from lagna shows Paternal Grandfather specifically.. How do you like that?

ZORAN: You are right about bad placement of Mars. Again, I feel that venus in 8th along with Sun in 8th from AL, opposed by Rx Saturn are cause for wealth problems. Mars is involved in both DharmaKarma Yoga and Guru Mangala Yoga, thus I see not much evil in his placement.Other comments are very good.

Visti: I would say that the reason for any wealth problems, would surely be attributed to Saturn being in 2nd from Arudha Lagna. One may argue that saturn is in own sign, but yet its a malefic and malefics in 2nd from AL, will surely gives wealth problems during its Dasa. The reason is seen from the houses lorded by Saturn(Moon being focal point of curse = Depression). Also Saturn shows his continuing of the parampara, hence that gives wealth problems as well...That BA in engineering wouldn't have given him such a problem.

ZORAN: Why would he serve bad people? Do explain your logic. Rahu point is good. I feel that Mercury is more involved in some health and other related problems to father. Otherwise, mercury is involved in Saraswati Yoga with moon.

Visti: I was qouting the effects of Mercury in Aagama Avastha; "Serves mean people and makes money, two sons, one daughter who brings good name".

ZORAN: Venus in 5th along with Sun makes a person shine in knowledge. 8th lord in 5th is excellent for jyotish as you noted, again inherited knowledge 8th house from lagna and AL, in 5th from lagna(grandfather) receiving dristi from Shani in 11th atma.Venus again takes part in Matsya Yoga. Along with sun will bring some heart disease, don't you think so? Otherwise, governmental service is indicated as well.

Visti: in Trimsamsa, MrityuPada is in Leo, aspected by Sun. I agree.

ZORAN: Excellent. Ketu is further in DharmaAmsa exalted... true Tapaswi

Visti: I understand that Gemini and Scorpio are regarded as Exaltation signs of Ketu, but why are you using them both indifferent to the purpose of Phalita and Ayur Jyotish? Please eloborate?

I may observe that you have come a long way Visti!

I feel truly blessed by your words, thankyou!!

Best wishes,Zoran

Best wishes, Visti.