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Hare Rama Krishna

-----------------

 

Dear Members,

 

I obtained the birth details of Osama Bin Laden from Shri KNRao's

site at www.astropanorama.com.

He says he verified it with Karveji's daughter who also has

supernormal gift of identifying one's

birthtime and exact degree of Lagna, like her father.

 

I think the chart needs further rectification. I changed it to

00:03:30 during Abhijita Muhurtha.

[ July 30 1957 00:03:30 39E12 21N30 TZ +3.00 ]

 

Lagna : 07Li01'11.49''

 

 

Here are the salient points of his chart:

 

1. Nodes along the Lagna axis in D-1.

2. Dhana Yogas in 11H in D-1.

3. Exchange of 10L & 11L in D-1.

4. Karakamsa & Lagnamsa are same. Born in a rich family.

5. 12H from Karakamsa is afflicted by Sun/Sat combination. Losses due

to trouble with Governments.

6. In Navamsa, 10H is aspected by benefics Mercury & Moon. Gives

stable fortunes and fixity of purpose

as per Parasara.

7. As per Parasara, malefics in 12H from Swamsa, indicate expenses on

UNLAWFUL and BAD ACTIVITIES.

This combination is further aspected by Rahu & Mars!!!!

8. Rahu & Mars in 5H from Swamsa indicates handling deadly posion

like ANTHRAX!!!! Also they are

capable of handling weapons.

 

In D-1, AL has 39 points!!!!

In D-9 GL has 34 points!!!!

In D-10 GL has 31 points!!!!

 

In D-10, 10H is Virgo aspected by Ju. 10L Me is in Li. He was a

business man. 10H has 33points.

GL is powerful and he became famous as a Terrorist. 10H from GL has

32 points. 10L from GL

is Saturn in 7H with Venus and Ketu and aspected by Rahu & Moon. 10H

& 10L also have aspects

from MArs.

 

Saturn with Venus & Ketu shows a tapaswi, which is afflicted by Mars

and combination of Rahu & Moon.

Moon here is lord of 8H, indicating perseverance and underground

activities.

 

D-1 Narayana Dasa & Kaala Chakra Dasa

----

 

Dasa of Taurus is running. Ta is the 8H!!!

Its lord is the Rudra and involved in Rudra Yoga!!!

 

 

 

Shoola Dasa

-----------

 

Now Shoola Dasa of Le-Ge is running till July 2002.

 

Note, Le is 3H from AL, showing place of Death!!! Le indicates

Mountains!!!

Le also has a terrible Rudra Yoga with Rudra Venus. It houses Moon

the AK.

 

Le houses MrityuPada!!!

 

Ge the AD houses AL.

 

Ge is afflicted by Ju® and Rahu by Transit.

 

 

Navamsa

-------

 

Moon is in Sg, as per COVA, death can be by Bullets and other Sharp

weapons!!!!

 

Raths Rule :

------------

 

Progressing Trimsamsa Lagna @ 1-sign per year, 44th year is in Virgo,

7H from Saturn!!!!

Month of Death : MrityPada is in Leo, trine should be either Sg Or Ar.

Sun transits in Sg from Dec 15 onwards.

 

Vedic Date of Death: Strongest of 5L is Rh. So tithi the 8th i.e.

Amavasya.

 

Time/Lagna of Death: AL is in Ge and hence death can occur when Airy

sign is rising.

 

I think his days are numbered!!!

 

Regards

Narayan

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Dear Narayan,

 

Don't think that the data is correct just because Sri K.N. Rao

certified it. Don't even be fooled by the weight of the " Karve " name.

Karve Maharaj himself is not completely reliable, let alone his

daughter Pinky. Ask the following questions:

 

(1) Shouldn't he be a strong pitta dosha person? Of course, you've

got paka lagna in a fiery sign, but shouldn't lagna also be in a

fiery sign? He is supposed to have serious problems with kidneys and

drinks water heavily. He must have lots of pitta. Strongly disturbed

pitta must also be behind his strong drive to fight superpowers.

Libra lagna with Rahu does not have enough pitta to explain his

personality and health problems.

 

(2) He chose to live a hard life despite being a millionnaire. How is

it explained by your chart? Shouldn't the 8th house have an influence

of Saturn or Ketu?

 

(3) You chose arudha lagna in Gemini. Is he perceived as an

intellectual or as a fighter? Moreover, 3 benefics in the 3rd from AL

will give a softer personality.

 

(4) Jupiter is a good planet in the chart taken by you. He is a

functional malefic in 12th (VRY). In D-10, he is lagna lord aspecting

lagna from 7th. It does not explain all the events. K.N.Rao explained

it away saying Jupiter was 6th lord. But rethink after looking at VRY

in rasi and lagna ownership in D-10.

 

I have a lot of other objections, but will leave here. You also

rethink.

 

I think the date is correct, but not the time. I wonder if Mesha

lagna with Ketu in it and Simha navamsa with Mars and Rahu in a trine

should be taken instead. Try to see this year's annual chart also and

see if a major disturbance and war is possible in October-Novemeber.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

varahamihira, " Narayan Iyer " <narayan_iyer@m...> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

> -----------------

>

> Dear Members,

>

> I obtained the birth details of Osama Bin Laden from Shri KNRao's

> site at www.astropanorama.com.

> He says he verified it with Karveji's daughter who also has

> supernormal gift of identifying one's

> birthtime and exact degree of Lagna, like her father.

>

> I think the chart needs further rectification. I changed it to

> 00:03:30 during Abhijita Muhurtha.

> [ July 30 1957 00:03:30 39E12 21N30 TZ +3.00 ]

>

> Lagna : 07Li01'11.49''

>

>

> Here are the salient points of his chart:

>

> 1. Nodes along the Lagna axis in D-1.

> 2. Dhana Yogas in 11H in D-1.

> 3. Exchange of 10L & 11L in D-1.

> 4. Karakamsa & Lagnamsa are same. Born in a rich family.

> 5. 12H from Karakamsa is afflicted by Sun/Sat combination. Losses

due

> to trouble with Governments.

> 6. In Navamsa, 10H is aspected by benefics Mercury & Moon. Gives

> stable fortunes and fixity of purpose

> as per Parasara.

> 7. As per Parasara, malefics in 12H from Swamsa, indicate expenses

on

> UNLAWFUL and BAD ACTIVITIES.

> This combination is further aspected by Rahu & Mars!!!!

> 8. Rahu & Mars in 5H from Swamsa indicates handling deadly posion

> like ANTHRAX!!!! Also they are

> capable of handling weapons.

>

> In D-1, AL has 39 points!!!!

> In D-9 GL has 34 points!!!!

> In D-10 GL has 31 points!!!!

>

> In D-10, 10H is Virgo aspected by Ju. 10L Me is in Li. He was a

> business man. 10H has 33points.

> GL is powerful and he became famous as a Terrorist. 10H from GL has

> 32 points. 10L from GL

> is Saturn in 7H with Venus and Ketu and aspected by Rahu & Moon.

10H

> & 10L also have aspects

> from MArs.

>

> Saturn with Venus & Ketu shows a tapaswi, which is afflicted by

Mars

> and combination of Rahu & Moon.

> Moon here is lord of 8H, indicating perseverance and underground

> activities.

>

> D-1 Narayana Dasa & Kaala Chakra Dasa

> ----

>

> Dasa of Taurus is running. Ta is the 8H!!!

> Its lord is the Rudra and involved in Rudra Yoga!!!

>

>

>

> Shoola Dasa

> -----------

>

> Now Shoola Dasa of Le-Ge is running till July 2002.

>

> Note, Le is 3H from AL, showing place of Death!!! Le indicates

> Mountains!!!

> Le also has a terrible Rudra Yoga with Rudra Venus. It houses Moon

> the AK.

>

> Le houses MrityuPada!!!

>

> Ge the AD houses AL.

>

> Ge is afflicted by Ju® and Rahu by Transit.

>

>

> Navamsa

> -------

>

> Moon is in Sg, as per COVA, death can be by Bullets and other Sharp

> weapons!!!!

>

> Raths Rule :

> ------------

>

> Progressing Trimsamsa Lagna @ 1-sign per year, 44th year is in

Virgo,

> 7H from Saturn!!!!

> Month of Death : MrityPada is in Leo, trine should be either Sg Or

Ar.

> Sun transits in Sg from Dec 15 onwards.

>

> Vedic Date of Death: Strongest of 5L is Rh. So tithi the 8th i.e.

> Amavasya.

>

> Time/Lagna of Death: AL is in Ge and hence death can occur when

Airy

> sign is rising.

>

> I think his days are numbered!!!

>

> Regards

> Narayan

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Namaste,

Per your note: Progressing Trimsamsa Lagna @ 1-sign per year, 44th year is in Virgo, 7H from Saturn!!!! Month of Death : MrityPada is in Leo, trine should be either Sg Or Ar. Sun transits in Sg from Dec 15 onwards.

 

Sanjay suggests that early death ( Rudra) comes once every 11 years.

44th year is a multiple of 11 X4 ...

What is not cear to me is the starting point...and is Shoola dasa based upon this rule?

 

 

Narayan Iyer [narayan_iyer] Saturday, November 17, 2001 7:16 PMvarahamihira Subject: [Hare Rama Krishna] Osama Bin Ladens Shoola DasaHare Rama Krishna-----------------Dear Members,I obtained the birth details of Osama Bin Laden from Shri KNRao's site at www.astropanorama.com. He says he verified it with Karveji's daughter who also has supernormal gift of identifying one'sbirthtime and exact degree of Lagna, like her father. I think the chart needs further rectification. I changed it to 00:03:30 during Abhijita Muhurtha.[ July 30 1957 00:03:30 39E12 21N30 TZ +3.00 ]Lagna : 07Li01'11.49''Here are the salient points of his chart:1. Nodes along the Lagna axis in D-1.2. Dhana Yogas in 11H in D-1.3. Exchange of 10L & 11L in D-1.4. Karakamsa & Lagnamsa are same. Born in a rich family.5. 12H from Karakamsa is afflicted by Sun/Sat combination. Losses due to trouble with Governments.6. In Navamsa, 10H is aspected by benefics Mercury & Moon. Gives stable fortunes and fixity of purpose as per Parasara.7. As per Parasara, malefics in 12H from Swamsa, indicate expenses on UNLAWFUL and BAD ACTIVITIES. This combination is further aspected by Rahu & Mars!!!!8. Rahu & Mars in 5H from Swamsa indicates handling deadly posion like ANTHRAX!!!! Also they are capable of handling weapons.In D-1, AL has 39 points!!!!In D-9 GL has 34 points!!!!In D-10 GL has 31 points!!!!In D-10, 10H is Virgo aspected by Ju. 10L Me is in Li. He was a business man. 10H has 33points.GL is powerful and he became famous as a Terrorist. 10H from GL has 32 points. 10L from GLis Saturn in 7H with Venus and Ketu and aspected by Rahu & Moon. 10H & 10L also have aspectsfrom MArs.Saturn with Venus & Ketu shows a tapaswi, which is afflicted by Mars and combination of Rahu & Moon.Moon here is lord of 8H, indicating perseverance and underground activities.D-1 Narayana Dasa & Kaala Chakra Dasa----Dasa of Taurus is running. Ta is the 8H!!!Its lord is the Rudra and involved in Rudra Yoga!!!Shoola Dasa-----------Now Shoola Dasa of Le-Ge is running till July 2002.Note, Le is 3H from AL, showing place of Death!!! Le indicates Mountains!!!Le also has a terrible Rudra Yoga with Rudra Venus. It houses Moon the AK.Le houses MrityuPada!!!Ge the AD houses AL.Ge is afflicted by Ju® and Rahu by Transit.Navamsa-------Moon is in Sg, as per COVA, death can be by Bullets and other Sharp weapons!!!!Raths Rule :------------Progressing Trimsamsa Lagna @ 1-sign per year, 44th year is in Virgo, 7H from Saturn!!!!Month of Death : MrityPada is in Leo, trine should be either Sg Or Ar. Sun transits in Sg from Dec 15 onwards.Vedic Date of Death: Strongest of 5L is Rh. So tithi the 8th i.e. Amavasya.Time/Lagna of Death: AL is in Ge and hence death can occur when Airy sign is rising.I think his days are numbered!!!RegardsNarayanOM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraFiles: varahamihiravarahamihira/database

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Dear Narasimha,

 

Thanks for the pointers.

 

Arguments *for* the time I took:

 

1. For Pitta Dosha, Fiery signs should be prominent. Except for the

Lagna majority planets are in fiery signs. Even the Lagna lord

is in a fiery sign.!!!

I understand that Lagna plays an important role as it is the

Deha...to what extent, is something I dont know.

 

2. As per Jaimini, the 8H from Lagna should be influenced by

Saturn/Rahu. Here, Rahu has Rasi Dristi & Saturn has Graha

Dristi on 8H. The same is true for also 8L.

 

3. Saturn has Graha Dristi on 8H. Infact the way of life he is

leading is his own choice/desire(Graha).

 

4. I agree with you, Gemini does not portay his percieved nature.

 

5. But Vargottama Sat® in 6H from AL, gives Vipareeta RajaYoga. Such

a person has tremendous success in battles and receives black

money. This conforms to Osama's life patterns.

 

Now, if we change Lagna to Aries with Simha NAvamsa, time would be

23:45:30. As per this Atmakaraka is SAt® and note 12H from Ak has

Ketu which gives Moksha!!!

 

I doubt Osama deserves this????

 

Regards

Narayan

 

varahamihira, pvr@m... wrote:

> Dear Narayan,

>

> Don't think that the data is correct just because Sri K.N. Rao

> certified it. Don't even be fooled by the weight of the " Karve "

name.

> Karve Maharaj himself is not completely reliable, let alone his

> daughter Pinky. Ask the following questions:

>

> (1) Shouldn't he be a strong pitta dosha person? Of course, you've

> got paka lagna in a fiery sign, but shouldn't lagna also be in a

> fiery sign? He is supposed to have serious problems with kidneys

and

> drinks water heavily. He must have lots of pitta. Strongly

disturbed

> pitta must also be behind his strong drive to fight superpowers.

> Libra lagna with Rahu does not have enough pitta to explain his

> personality and health problems.

>

> (2) He chose to live a hard life despite being a millionnaire. How

is

> it explained by your chart? Shouldn't the 8th house have an

influence

> of Saturn or Ketu?

>

> (3) You chose arudha lagna in Gemini. Is he perceived as an

> intellectual or as a fighter? Moreover, 3 benefics in the 3rd from

AL

> will give a softer personality.

>

> (4) Jupiter is a good planet in the chart taken by you. He is a

> functional malefic in 12th (VRY). In D-10, he is lagna lord

aspecting

> lagna from 7th. It does not explain all the events. K.N.Rao

explained

> it away saying Jupiter was 6th lord. But rethink after looking at

VRY

> in rasi and lagna ownership in D-10.

>

> I have a lot of other objections, but will leave here. You also

> rethink.

>

> I think the date is correct, but not the time. I wonder if Mesha

> lagna with Ketu in it and Simha navamsa with Mars and Rahu in a

trine

> should be taken instead. Try to see this year's annual chart also

and

> see if a major disturbance and war is possible in October-Novemeber.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> varahamihira, " Narayan Iyer " <narayan_iyer@m...> wrote:

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> > -----------------

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > I obtained the birth details of Osama Bin Laden from Shri KNRao's

> > site at www.astropanorama.com.

> > He says he verified it with Karveji's daughter who also has

> > supernormal gift of identifying one's

> > birthtime and exact degree of Lagna, like her father.

> >

> > I think the chart needs further rectification. I changed it to

> > 00:03:30 during Abhijita Muhurtha.

> > [ July 30 1957 00:03:30 39E12 21N30 TZ +3.00 ]

> >

> > Lagna : 07Li01'11.49''

> >

> >

> > Here are the salient points of his chart:

> >

> > 1. Nodes along the Lagna axis in D-1.

> > 2. Dhana Yogas in 11H in D-1.

> > 3. Exchange of 10L & 11L in D-1.

> > 4. Karakamsa & Lagnamsa are same. Born in a rich family.

> > 5. 12H from Karakamsa is afflicted by Sun/Sat combination. Losses

> due

> > to trouble with Governments.

> > 6. In Navamsa, 10H is aspected by benefics Mercury & Moon. Gives

> > stable fortunes and fixity of purpose

> > as per Parasara.

> > 7. As per Parasara, malefics in 12H from Swamsa, indicate

expenses

> on

> > UNLAWFUL and BAD ACTIVITIES.

> > This combination is further aspected by Rahu & Mars!!!!

> > 8. Rahu & Mars in 5H from Swamsa indicates handling deadly posion

> > like ANTHRAX!!!! Also they are

> > capable of handling weapons.

> >

> > In D-1, AL has 39 points!!!!

> > In D-9 GL has 34 points!!!!

> > In D-10 GL has 31 points!!!!

> >

> > In D-10, 10H is Virgo aspected by Ju. 10L Me is in Li. He was a

> > business man. 10H has 33points.

> > GL is powerful and he became famous as a Terrorist. 10H from GL

has

> > 32 points. 10L from GL

> > is Saturn in 7H with Venus and Ketu and aspected by Rahu & Moon.

> 10H

> > & 10L also have aspects

> > from MArs.

> >

> > Saturn with Venus & Ketu shows a tapaswi, which is afflicted by

> Mars

> > and combination of Rahu & Moon.

> > Moon here is lord of 8H, indicating perseverance and underground

> > activities.

> >

> > D-1 Narayana Dasa & Kaala Chakra Dasa

> > ----

> >

> > Dasa of Taurus is running. Ta is the 8H!!!

> > Its lord is the Rudra and involved in Rudra Yoga!!!

> >

> >

> >

> > Shoola Dasa

> > -----------

> >

> > Now Shoola Dasa of Le-Ge is running till July 2002.

> >

> > Note, Le is 3H from AL, showing place of Death!!! Le indicates

> > Mountains!!!

> > Le also has a terrible Rudra Yoga with Rudra Venus. It houses

Moon

> > the AK.

> >

> > Le houses MrityuPada!!!

> >

> > Ge the AD houses AL.

> >

> > Ge is afflicted by Ju® and Rahu by Transit.

> >

> >

> > Navamsa

> > -------

> >

> > Moon is in Sg, as per COVA, death can be by Bullets and other

Sharp

> > weapons!!!!

> >

> > Raths Rule :

> > ------------

> >

> > Progressing Trimsamsa Lagna @ 1-sign per year, 44th year is in

> Virgo,

> > 7H from Saturn!!!!

> > Month of Death : MrityPada is in Leo, trine should be either Sg

Or

> Ar.

> > Sun transits in Sg from Dec 15 onwards.

> >

> > Vedic Date of Death: Strongest of 5L is Rh. So tithi the 8th i.e.

> > Amavasya.

> >

> > Time/Lagna of Death: AL is in Ge and hence death can occur when

> Airy

> > sign is rising.

> >

> > I think his days are numbered!!!

> >

> > Regards

> > Narayan

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Dear Narayan,

 

> 5. But Vargottama Sat® in 6H from AL, gives Vipareeta RajaYoga.

Such

> a person has tremendous success in battles and receives black

> money. This conforms to Osama's life patterns.

 

There are malefics in 3rd/6th from AL, but 3 benefics, with Libra

lagna chosen by Sri K.N. Rao and you.

 

> Now, if we change Lagna to Aries with Simha NAvamsa, time would be

> 23:45:30. As per this Atmakaraka is SAt® and note 12H from Ak has

> Ketu which gives Moksha!!!

 

Are you taking the previous night (July 29/30 border)? I get Moon as

AK and Saturn and Sun in the 12th from him. Ketu is not there. I

think you are taking the next night.

 

> I doubt Osama deserves this????

 

Of course not.

 

He may not be as bad as he is maligned to be, but he is definitely

not a liberated soul.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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Dear Narasimha,

 

I get the following chart. I think we have different data. I am

taking July 30 1957. I get the following with Mesha Lagna in the

NAvamsa of Simha.

 

Regards

Narayan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Osama Bin Laden

 

Natal Chart

 

July 30, 1957

Time: 0:00:15

Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)

Longitude: 39 E 12' 00 "

Latitude: 21 N 30' 00 "

Altitude: 0.00 meters

 

Lunar Year: Hemalamba

Lunar Month: Sravana

Tithi: Sukla Chaturthi (83.66% left)

Weekday: Monday

Nakshatra: Poo.Pha. (41.45% left)

Yoga: Parigha

Karana: Vanija

Hora Lord: Mars

 

Sunrise: 5:54:55

Sunset: 19:03:16

Janma Ghatis: 45.2220

 

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak

 

Lagna 16 Ar 36' 31.25 " Bharani 1 Ar Le -

Sun 13 Cn 10' 49.26 " Pushyami 3 Cn Li BK

Moon 21 Le 08' 26.18 " Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li AK

Mars 0 Le 50' 11.18 " Makha 1 Le Ar DK

Mercury 6 Le 26' 59.13 " Makha 2 Le Ta PK

Jupiter 5 Vi 18' 46.93 " U.Pha. 3 Vi Aq GK

Venus 11 Le 16' 22.13 " Makha 4 Le Cn MK

Saturn ® 14 Sc 33' 00.62 " Anuradha 4 Sc Sc AmK

Rahu 22 Li 19' 57.00 " Visakha 1 Li Ar PiK

Ketu 22 Ar 19' 57.00 " Bharani 3 Ar Li -

Bhava Lagna 13 Ar 47' 29.54 " Bharani 1 Ar Le -

Hora Lagna 15 Cp 07' 25.03 " Sravanam 2 Cp Ta -

Ghati Lagna 19 Ar 07' 11.48 " Bharani 2 Ar Vi -

Vighati Lagna 9 Le 06' 03.76 " Makha 3 Le Ge -

Sree Lagna 17 Sc 24' 18.08 " Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg -

Dhooma 26 Sc 30' 49.26 " Jyeshtha 3 Sc Aq -

Vyatipata 3 Le 29' 10.74 " Makha 2 Le Ta -

Parivesha 3 Aq 29' 10.74 " Dhanishtha 4 Aq Sc -

Indra Chapa 26 Ta 30' 49.26 " Mrigasira 1 Ta Le -

Upaketu 13 Ge 10' 49.26 " Aardra 2 Ge Cp -

Kaala 13 Ar 06' 58.38 " Aswini 4 Ar Cn -

Mrityu 26 Ta 42' 11.58 " Mrigasira 2 Ta Vi -

Artha Prahara 15 Ge 31' 07.63 " Aardra 3 Ge Aq -

Yama Ghantaka 3 Cn 35' 29.06 " Pushyami 1 Cn Le -

Maandi 20 Aq 40' 21.65 " Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -

Gulika 7 Aq 44' 15.13 " Satabhisham 1 Aq Sg -

Varnada Lagna 28 Ta 16' 03.72 " Mrigasira 2 Ta Vi -

V2 1 Ar 43' 56.28 " Aswini 1 Ar Ar -

V3 1 Ge 43' 56.28 " Mrigasira 3 Ge Li -

V4 1 Le 43' 56.28 " Makha 1 Le Ar -

V5 1 Li 43' 56.28 " Chitra 3 Li Li -

V6 1 Sg 43' 56.28 " Moola 1 Sg Ar -

V7 1 Aq 43' 56.28 " Dhanishtha 3 Aq Li -

V8 1 Ar 43' 56.28 " Aswini 1 Ar Ar -

V9 1 Ge 43' 56.28 " Mrigasira 3 Ge Li -

V10 1 Le 43' 56.28 " Makha 1 Le Ar -

V11 1 Li 43' 56.28 " Chitra 3 Li Li -

 

Planet Chara Karakatwa Meaning

 

Sun BK Brother (associate)

Moon AK Self

Mars DK Spouse (partner)

Mercury PK Son (follower)

Jupiter GK Cousin (rival)

Venus MK Mother (nourisher)

Saturn AmK Minister (advisor)

Rahu PiK Father (authority)

 

Sat 190 135 55

 

 

 

+--------------+

| |Asc Ket | | |

| |GL | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|Mnd Glk | |Sun |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------| Rasi |-----------|

|HL | |Moo Mar |

| | |Mer Ven |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|AL |SatR |Rah |Jup |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+--------------+

 

+--------------+

| |Mar Rah |Mer HL | |

| |Mnd | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|Jup | |Ven |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------| Navamsa |-----------|

| | |Asc |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|Glk AL |SatR |Sun Moo |GL |

| | |Ket | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+--------------+

 

 

varahamihira, pvr@m... wrote:

> Dear Narayan,

>

> > 5. But Vargottama Sat® in 6H from AL, gives Vipareeta RajaYoga.

> Such

> > a person has tremendous success in battles and receives black

> > money. This conforms to Osama's life patterns.

>

> There are malefics in 3rd/6th from AL, but 3 benefics, with Libra

> lagna chosen by Sri K.N. Rao and you.

>

> > Now, if we change Lagna to Aries with Simha NAvamsa, time would be

> > 23:45:30. As per this Atmakaraka is SAt® and note 12H from Ak

has

> > Ketu which gives Moksha!!!

>

> Are you taking the previous night (July 29/30 border)? I get Moon

as

> AK and Saturn and Sun in the 12th from him. Ketu is not there. I

> think you are taking the next night.

>

> > I doubt Osama deserves this????

>

> Of course not.

>

> He may not be as bad as he is maligned to be, but he is definitely

> not a liberated soul.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

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Dear Narayan,

 

Yes, the chart that seemed to make sense to me is in this

neighborhood. When I said Saturn was in the 12th from AK Moon, I was

looking at your chart. Nevertheless Ketu is not in the 12th from AK

as you said. AK is not Saturn but Moon.

 

The chart taken by you puts AK in Swamsa, promising a great raja yoga

and siddhi of objectives. Swamsa is in Sg with AK Moon in it and

Mercury aspecting it powerfully from Ge. My version would have 4

malefics on the axis of AK.

 

Well, my version may not be right too. But I think Sri K.N. Rao's

version accepted by you is far more questionable. Anyway, let us

leave it here.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> I get the following chart. I think we have different data. I am

> taking July 30 1957. I get the following with Mesha Lagna in the

> NAvamsa of Simha.

>

> Regards

> Narayan

>

> Osama Bin Laden

>

> Natal Chart

>

> July 30, 1957

> Time: 0:00:15

> Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)

> Longitude: 39 E 12' 00 "

> Latitude: 21 N 30' 00 "

>

> Moon 21 Le 08' 26.18 " Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li AK

> Saturn ® 14 Sc 33' 00.62 " Anuradha 4 Sc Sc AmK

> Ketu 22 Ar 19' 57.00 " Bharani 3 Ar Li -

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