Kalsarp yog - A lesson

November 29, 2001

OM SRI GURAVE NAMAHDear Vatsal,

Lesson on Kala Sarpa & Amrita Yoga

Definition

Definition of Kalasarpa yoga: "Agre Rahu Adhou Ketu, Sarva Madhya Graha" gives the definition of the Yoga. Place your finger on the Ketu and then move the finger in the zodiacal direction of the rasi's till you reach Rahu. If all the planets are in this half or signs, then Kala sarpa Yoga is generated.

Results: It brings immence suffering till the native crosses the natural age of the nodes. In the case of KSY this is 45 years. Suffering can make a person a devil or a saint. In the case of kala Sarpa yoga, a person becomes the evil one and then the criminal tendencies and destructive nature comes to the fore.

Remedy: Worship of Durga in Her form of Chandi as per the sloka "Kaloh Chandi Vinayaka".

Definition of Kala Amrita Yoga (KAY): Kala Amrita yoga is the exact opposite of Kala Sarpa yoga and is based on "Agre Ketu Adhou Rahu Sarve madhya Graha" wherein Ketu is in the lead instead of Rahu. Place your finger on the Rahu and then move the finger in the zodiacal direction of the rasi's till you reach Ketu. If all the planets are in this half or signs, then Kala Amrita Yoga is generated.

Results: It brings immence suffering till the native crosses the natural age of the nodes. In the case of KAY this is 43 years. Suffering can make a person a devil or a saint. In the case of kala Amrita yoga, a person becomes the kind or spiritual and then the spiritual directions and non-attachment nature is revealed.

Remedy: Worship of Ganesha in His form of Vinayaka as per the sloka "Kaloh Chandi Vinayaka".

Break of KSY & KAY

If Kala Sarpa yoga breaks then the planets help the native to end the suffering and the destructive nature and criminal tendencies end bringing about a transformation. This can happen in real life with the association of a saint or a Guru. Real life examples are those of (a) Angulimala and Buddha deva and (b) Valmiki. I will advise you to read these episodes and understand the life directions.

If kala Amrita Yoga is broken then the native does not renounce the life and instead, shall continue in this life getting many fruits and benefits of luxury, power etc depending on the nature of the planets breaking the Yoga.

The Kala Sarpa or Amrita Yoga can be broken under the following circumstances:

(1) A natural benefic planet joins the first or seventh house (These are the Satya Peetha or the places from where we learn about the real truth).

(2) A natural benefic planet conjoins the nodes. Natural malefic planets conjoining the nodes does break the KSY & KAY also but then there is no benefit of luxury, wealth or power etc.

Let us examine a few charts to understand this:Chart-1:Nehru, Jawaharlal

Comments: Place your finger on the Rahu (Gemini) and then move the finger in the zodiacal direction (Cancer, Leo etc) of the rasi's till you reach Ketu (Sagittarius). Since all the planets are in this half or signs, Kala Amrita Yoga is generated. It indicates the birth of a saintly person and his daughter (Indira Gandhi) did consider him so although his opponents had a lot to say otherwise.

The KAY indicates tremendous suffering and is broken by (1) Natural benefic and Lagna Lord Moon in Lagna as it is also the Atmakaraka and (2) Jupiter conjoins Ketu (Node).

The Yoga generated by (1) breaking of KSY or KAY by the Moon is called MAHA-SANKHA YOGA. Sankha indicates the begining or birth of something. He was tthe first Prime Minister of independant India and in the chart of Independant India, we find this Kala Amrita Yoga also being present. Is this just a coincidence? Further, it indicates birth in an aristrocratic family with all the paraphernalia of wealth but that would dwindle with time and many hardships including jail terms had to be endured in their struggle for the freedom of India.

The Yoga generated by (2) breaking of KSY or KAY by Jupiter is called MAHA-PADMA YOGA. Padma is the lotus indicating the rise of wealth, food, children and all that is good and representing God. Unfortunately this is in the sixth house. November 14, 1889Time: 23:21:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 81 E 52' 00"Latitude: 25 N 28' 00"Altitude: 0.00 metersLunar Year: VirodhiLunar Month: KarthikaTithi: Krishna Sapthami (52.29% left)Weekday: FridayNakshatra: Aasresha (89.96% left)Yoga: SuklaKarana: VishtiHora Lord: SaturnSunrise: 6:21:59Sunset: 17:11:44Janma Ghatis: 42.4592Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarakLagna 26 Cn 20' 31.60" Aasresha 3 Cn Aq -Sun 0 Sc 16' 47.70" Visakha 4 Sc Cn DKMoon 18 Cn 00' 17.17" Aasresha 1 Cn Sg AKMars 9 Vi 59' 34.17" U.Pha. 4 Vi Pi PKMercury 17 Li 09' 55.67" Swathi 4 Li Pi BKJupiter 15 Sg 10' 55.09" Poo.Shaa. 1 Sg Le MKVenus 7 Li 22' 40.47" Swathi 1 Li Sg GKSaturn 10 Le 47' 49.17" Makha 4 Le Cn PiKRahu 12 Ge 43' 36.60" Aardra 2 Ge Cp AmKKetu 12 Sg 43' 36.60" Moola 4 Sg Cn -Bhava Lagna 14 Cn 19' 19.11" Pushyami 4 Cn Sc -Hora Lagna 29 Pi 04' 38.20" Revathi 4 Pi Pi -Ghati Lagna 13 Ta 20' 35.48" Rohini 2 Ta Ta -Vighati Lagna 24 Sg 40' 21.87" Poo.Shaa. 4 Sg Sc -Pranapada Lagna 25 Le 23' 09.55" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc - Rasi +--------------+| \ Mnd Glk / \ / || \ Sat / \ Rah / || \ / \ / || \ / Moo \ / || \ / \ / ||Mar x Asc x GL || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / Ven \ 4 / \ || / \ / \ || Mer x AL || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / ||Sun x x HL || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / Jup \ / \ || / Ket \ / \ |+--------------+ Navamsa +--------------+| \ Mer HL / \ / || \ Mar / \ Rah / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / AL ||Glk x Asc x Ven Moo || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ 11 / \ || / \ / \ || GL x || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || x Jup x || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / Mnd \ / \ || / Sun \ / \ || / Sat Ket \ / \ |+--------------+ Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):Mer Mer 1888-02-27 Ket 1890-07-28 Ven 1891-07-25 Sun 1894-05-23 Moo 1895-03-29 Mar 1896-08-31 Rah 1897-08-28 Jup 1900-03-14 Sat 1902-06-22 Ket Ket 1905-02-28 Ven 1905-07-29 Sun 1906-09-29 Moo 1907-02-01 Mar 1907-09-05 Rah 1908-01-30 Jup 1909-02-16 Sat 1910-01-23 Mer 1911-03-03 Ven Ven 1912-02-28 Sun 1915-07-01 Moo 1916-07-01 Mar 1918-02-28 Rah 1919-04-30 Jup 1922-04-30 Sat 1924-12-31 Mer 1928-02-28 Ket 1930-12-31 Sun Sun 1932-02-29 Moo 1932-06-18 Mar 1932-12-19 Rah 1933-04-23 Jup 1934-03-18 Sat 1935-01-06 Mer 1935-12-20 Ket 1936-10-26 Ven 1937-02-28 Moo Moo 1938-02-28 Mar 1938-12-31 Rah 1939-08-02 Jup 1941-01-29 Sat 1942-05-31 Mer 1943-12-31 Ket 1945-05-31 Ven 1945-12-31 Sun 1947-09-02 Mar Mar 1948-02-29 Rah 1948-07-29 Jup 1949-08-17 Sat 1950-07-23 Mer 1951-09-02 Ket 1952-08-29 Ven 1953-01-23 Sun 1954-03-24 Moo 1954-08-02 Rah Rah 1955-02-28 Jup 1957-11-14 Sat 1960-04-05 Mer 1963-02-11 Ket 1965-09-02 Ven 1966-09-21 Sun 1969-09-20 Moo 1970-08-14 Mar 1972-02-11 Jup Jup 1973-02-28 Sat 1975-04-18 Mer 1977-11-02 Ket 1980-02-05 Ven 1981-01-12 Sun 1983-09-15 Moo 1984-07-01 Mar 1985-11-02 Rah 1986-10-09 Sat Sat 1989-02-28 Mer 1992-03-03 Ket 1994-11-14 Ven 1995-12-23 Sun 1999-02-20 Moo 2000-02-02 Mar 2001-09-05 Rah 2001-10-15 Jup 2005-08-21

I am finishing this lesson here as I am have some tasks at hand. More details later.

Assignment:

1. Study the chart of at least one person with KSY and one person with KAY and provide comments.

2. There is yet another version of this as SARPA YOGA. Define and explain Sarpa Yoga and recommend remedies for allevation of suffering associated with it with a few examples.Best RegardsSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.com

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"Vatsal Shah" <vatsal

Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:30 AM

[Hare Rama Krishna] Kalsarp yog.

> Pranam,> > How you define Kalsarp yog?> As far as I know if all the planets are in between Rahu-ketu is > called Kalsarp yog.> > But here is my question> if rahu is in Lagna(1st house) & ketu is in 7th house.> > now if all the planets are in between8-12th house is it Kalsarp.> or only if all the palnets are in between 2-6th house is called > Kalsarp.> > Thank you,> Vats> > >

December 1, 2001

PRANAM GURUJI,

Here is my assignment:

Here is the chart of a lady attached with Kalamrita Yoga, that gives

obstacles up to 43. Yoga is not broken by natural shubha such as Guru and

Shukra, but by Chandra who is waxing thus shubha, and lord of 8th house

which is bad. The lady has a great trouble finding a proper relationship,

and had an affair with a criminal who was shot dead. She indeed has some

sense of spiritual nature, due to chandra influencing lagna which is satya

peetha, and natural instinct given by guru strongly placed in 10th house

as lagnesh. Some bad effects of kalamrita was given in the form of living

in war affected area, where the whole family had to relocate. However,

ketu in 11th from Al has given good financial situation due to the father(Shani

as lord of 11th from AL is together with Surya and Guru) She also had a

severe accident due to this yoga and placement of Lord of 8th in lagna

in dhanu(falls from vehicles)

KALASARPA YOGA

The chart is attached below:

This is the clear case of KalaSarpa Yoga, Rahu being atmakarak and

at the same time Bahoo stree Yoga present in the chart. Rahu is very afflicted

being with shani and mangal, while guru is afflicted to due to rahu conjunction.

No benefic in kendra while guru having the potency to destroy the

yoga, is afflicted and placed in 8th house in navamsa chart. However there

is yet a chance for a person to redeem due to the influence of Guru. There

are many raj yogas in mahayogadas, that gave the person material prosperity(breakage

of yoga in 2nd house) but the person is a higher class prostitute and mingles

with criminals. Her boy friend was killed as a crinimal. She had a terrible

suffering in the family, and is generally unhappy. I have adviced her to

wear Pookhraj and enhance the influence of Guru Mangala Yoga, and stay

away from such living, and go to church and pray on Thursdays to Lord Jesus(Guru

rules 12th from Karakamsa) Unfortunately she didn't accept the advice on

mantra, but perhaps she would accept going to Chruch and praying. Current

Rahu dasha is highly challanging and full of personal suffering.

SARPA YOGA

Sarpa Yoga is formed with malefics in kendra. It gives destructive

tendencies, weak health and poor longevity due to Kendra being sustainers

of body(lagna). Strong benefics such as Guru and Chandra can break the

Yoga, giving rise to Mahapadma Yoga (guru). The best advice would always

be given to give Ishta Devata Mantra, or Mantra for Planet breaking the

Yoga. I also thingk that Mritunjaya Mantra can be advised for health improvement

and longevity. Here is the chart of a person having Sarpa Yoga(attached

below).

Ketu, rahu, surya, budh and mangal are in kendras. The person had first

difficult living, problems all around, unsettled in profession, divorced,

lost a house on debts, had to relocate a few times in life due to debts,

is of lying and cheating disposition. Chandra dasha running so far was

highly mixed in effects, and gave some extent of prospertity and finance,

but also bad effects due to its natural benefic being in 3rd from AL and

being placed in 6th from Surya, and of course natural 12th house of losses.Current

Mangal dasha would reveal all his bad effects due to Sarpa Yoga, further

confirmed by Mangal bad ahipatya from Lagna. Venus as atma holds the key.

Mantra for Venus, such as Sanjivani is adviced, and also worship of both

Lord Hanuman and Ganesha due to karakamsha.

Best wishes,

Zoran

December 1, 2001

Hare Raama Krishna

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Dear Gurudeva & Members,

Here's my attempt on KAY & KSY.

Chart of Naveen Patnaik(KAY):

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[ Oct 16 1946 1:00:00 TZ 5.5 85E50 20N30 ]

All planets are hemmed between Ketu & Rahu with Ketu

taking the lead, generating the KAY!!!

This KAY is broken by the presence of Venus with Ke.

As a result, the person continues to enjoy the benefits

of life, like Luxury, Power etc.

The significations of Venus are enhanced as a result of

this. Meaning that, he will make a good name for himself,

as Venus is AL, lord. Venus in 5H, will give him Power &

Authority, especially since he is a Politician.

This will happen after the age of 43 i.e 1989.

Also there is a malefic Saturn in Lagna!!! Saturn

as the 7L will negate marriage and give a sense of

detachment and hard-work.

Chart of Alfred Hitchcock(KSY):

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[ Aug 13 1899 3:27 0W10 51N30 TZ0.0 ]

All planets are hemmed between Rahu & Ketu, with Rahu taking

the lead, generating KSY!!!

This KSY is broken by the presence of benefic Mercury in

the Lagna. Also the Gaja-Kesari yoga in 4H, definitely lends

itself in mitigating the influences of KAY!!!

This prevented him from being a renunciate.

Here's a quote from BBC's biography:

" Hitchcock liked to play practical jokes,

some sometimes going too far towards cruelty. "

I must say that KAY manifested itself in his works.

We know that a lot of suffering happening inside is usually,

manifested in the outside world, but with benefics in Lagna &

Quadrant, gave him a positive direction in the form of FILMS,

where we could distinctly identify a streak of pesimism and

morbidity which runs through many of his films, like PSYCHO ,

The 39 Steps, etc.

SARPA YOGA

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Malefics in Quadrants with no relief from benefics.

REMEDIES

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There are many approaches, but the key being propitiatating

deity connected to :

1. The 12h from Atmakaraka in D-9,

2. The KulaDevata i.e 2H inD-20

3. DevataKaraka in D-9.

as they are akin to the tripod of life, i.e Sun, Moon & Lagna.

Also MantraPada & Moon's Rasi & Nakshetra should be taken into

consideration.

Regards

Narayan

December 1, 2001

OM GURAVE NAMAH

Dear Vatsal,

i am not doing personal readings for students. they should learn to read

their own charts. if you have a technical issue, ask it.

Best Regards

Sanjay Rath

http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

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" Vatsal Shah " <vatsal

<srath

Thursday, November 29, 2001 11:25 PM

RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Kalsarp yog - A lesson

> Pranam,

> I just started reading your book Crux of Vedic Astrology so, may be I am

> wrong at some point but I am trying here with an example

> Here is attached horoscope of myself with KSY.

> My comments are...

> I have Rahu in Lagana and Ketu in 7th house So prob. in marriage. But

> because of Libra Ascendant it will become point of success.

> Also Lord of asc. is Shukra & it is in 11th house, by that is says I

should

> have good life but because of KSY, I am suffering. (Not a lot, is good

thing

> I don't know why..I have to find it).

> Also, Moon. Jup aspected by Rahu (8th House) Prob in Study (I finished my

> M.S.)

> Jupiter in 8th house make asura yog.

> and moon in 8th house( and aqua in navmasa) says beware from Water & other

> living creatures, animals. also danger near lakes, gardens, roads,

snowfall

> lightening. (I love boating, sking & Long drive).

>

> Saturn in 10th house will cause ups & downs in life, more & more

challanges,

> but good if I can work in real estate, metals, construction,

manufacturing.

> (I have civil engg. degree in Bachelor).

>

> Mer. in 11th house give many friends & gain through them(is also AK)

> Sun in 11th house give gain/help through/from guru & father. (is also DK)

>

> Sat. in 10th house also MK so help from mother side.

> Rahu is BK so prob. with brother & sisters (in mycase no brother & sister)

>

> I will study more and will put more comments on this.

> Here I have few questions if you can answer,

> (1) I want to study further I have two options, one go for Ph.D. in

> Computers. or do M.B.A. ?

> (2) Right now I am doing Job in a good co., I was doing my own business

(was

> not so good) But now I want to start new business, so which line I should

go

> for real estate/computers. ?

> (3) I don't see my marrienge for next one-two years, Is that right?

because

> of Rahu-sani-ketu's dasa...

> (4) Can I make you as my Guru, as I don't have one so far.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Vatsal Shah

> (978) 459-0599

> (203) 526-7530

> vatsal

>

> [srath]

>

December 2, 2001

JAI GURUDEV.

Pujya Guruji/Respected List,

I have got few doubts on results of KSY and KAY. Request to provide light.

1). KSY/KAY more oftenly than not found to exist in all/most members of some families. Does it specifically indicative of any family curse? Can remedial measures for such cases can be performed in common? What kind of remedial measure are best suited, whether same as given for KSY/KAY for indivisual chart?

2). Usually, for all Yogas it is advised to cross check with the Navamsa chart also. Is the same norm applicable for the these bad yogas also?

Suppose unbroken KSY is present in the Rasi chart, and in Navamsa all planets are very well placed generating yogas pertaining to all luxuries and comforts. Under such circumstances is it reasonable to undersatand that, all the yogas would not be come into fore front until the native reaches age of 46?

3). Whether KSY always reflects in hurdles in marriage/married life?

4). Even some of the personalities who got broken their KSY very strongly by virtue of Guru and Shukra, still suffered a lot upto certain age. Does it say that, if yoga is not broken not withstanding fact that any amount of Good Yogas present in the chart, native would be subjected to strife and sufferings end lessly?

5). Yogas KSY/KAY, can curtail the parameters of Upachayas?

(Below questions were also sent with my excersise on the lesson).

6) What would be the results, if only one of the planets goes out of the axis of the Rahu-Kethu by more than a house? Can We infur any results by counting the number of planets remained out of Rahu-Ketu axis?

7) If Rahu is placed in the Mesha, Vrishabha and or other good placement, can it make any diference in the intensity of the results of the KSY?

8) In some of the charts, Rahu acts as Yogakaraka/yogada, does in such cases, presence of KSY/KAY negates the Rahu to give beneficial results?

Namra Shishya,

Mohan Hegde.

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Sanjay Rath

varahamihira

Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:05 PM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Kalsarp yog - A lesson