Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!-------- Dear Sanjay, Can we soon expect a lesson on errecting and decifering the conception chart? Does Sarat Guru have many notes that we are yet to see? Best wishes, Visti. - Sanjay Rath vedic astrology Friday, January 04, 2002 11:22 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Varahamihira - ?Moola dasa? Hari Om Tat SatDear Narasimha In a message to Visti you wrote: > a) There is some confusion on whether to start the> dasa's from the stronger of Lagna & Moon or Lagna,> Moon & Sun.Well, if we strictly stick to ancient authorities, there is no confusion at all. Varahamahira (Brihajjatakam), Kalyana Verma (Saravali) and Prithu Yasas (Hora Saram) all prominently mentioned this dasa and they all *absolutely unambiguously* stated that the strongest of lagna, Moon and Sun should be used for starting this dasa.However, the greatest authority of *today*, Pt. Sanjay Rath, excludes Sun. He considers lagna, Moon and Sun to show body, mind and soul and excludes soul. But it is not so simple and Moon shows body too and Sun shows physical vitality too.I haven't yet seen any solid arguments to establish that Varahamihira, Kalyana Verma and Prithu Yasas were all collectively wrong. So I prefer to give them the benefit of doubt. I cannot stress more that they all agreed and absolutely unambiguously so.> I would calculate it from Lagna and Moon. This is also > in Sanjay Raths Article. Rath: As I have been telling again and again, there is much more to the dasa than wht catches your eye and there is much more in those words of the great authors than what our brain comprehends. The author Kalyan Verma is a very respected name and their point is clear and unambiguous about starting of Dasa from Lagna, Sun or Moon, whichever is stronger. Can you give me the exact quote from Varahamihira? If you read Moola dasa results carefully as given by Kalyan Verma, you will also find the results of LAGNA. Any insights on this? I must have a valid reason as to why I exclude the Sun in natal charts and in conception charts, I consider ONLY Lagna and Sun and exclude the Moon. i have taken a few classes on conception charts in delhi and try to get those notes from sarat or Sarajit. This will help in clearing this. Lagna & Sun in conception charts and Lagna & Moon in natal charts. One for creation and the other for sustenance...think on these lines. Adding both together, you will see that i am saying the same thing as Varahamihira, Kalyan Verma and others that the stronest of Lagna, Sun and Moon are to be considered.Just that I am clarifying even further...for the benefit of all. if there are still doubts better read the chapters relating to the conception chart. With best wishesSanjay RathArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 om gurave namah------------------------Dear Visti WHY do you need a lesson? I'll give the five rukes and you play with them.. ONE: Count 273 days from the date of your birth. That should be easy unless you were premature born. TWO: See if the Lagna lord is in drusya or not and the person is male or female. Male births take longer as boys have a natural tendency to trouble their mothers, girls are sweeter and better. So, if the Lagnesh is so placed then a 15 day correction is called for from this date. There's a little bit of figures work like Gulika minus Saturn to do out here and you can learn this from any book. THREE: The Lagna of Conception IS THE SEVENTH from Janma Lagna. Did you know this? Now you can apprecitae why the seventh house is also another Satya Peetha like lagna and is also the Dwara or the door through which you came to this world. There'sanother small math to do out here to get the Lagna degree right. FOUR: The Moon at conception MUST BE IN KENDRA TO JANMA RASI. Wow! Shivoham Shivoham..Mother dear mother.. FIVE: Enough! time to say good night..(remember to ask this at a later date or try to find this yourself).With best wishesSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.com - Visti Larsen varahamihira Friday, January 04, 2002 7:48 PM [Hare Rama Krishna] Fw: [vedic astrology] Re: Varahamihira - ?Moola dasa? Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!-------- Dear Sanjay, Can we soon expect a lesson on errecting and decifering the conception chart? Does Sarat Guru have many notes that we are yet to see? Best wishes, Visti. - Sanjay Rath vedic astrology Friday, January 04, 2002 11:22 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Varahamihira - ?Moola dasa? Hari Om Tat SatDear Narasimha In a message to Visti you wrote: > a) There is some confusion on whether to start the> dasa's from the stronger of Lagna & Moon or Lagna,> Moon & Sun.Well, if we strictly stick to ancient authorities, there is no confusion at all. Varahamahira (Brihajjatakam), Kalyana Verma (Saravali) and Prithu Yasas (Hora Saram) all prominently mentioned this dasa and they all *absolutely unambiguously* stated that the strongest of lagna, Moon and Sun should be used for starting this dasa.However, the greatest authority of *today*, Pt. Sanjay Rath, excludes Sun. He considers lagna, Moon and Sun to show body, mind and soul and excludes soul. But it is not so simple and Moon shows body too and Sun shows physical vitality too.I haven't yet seen any solid arguments to establish that Varahamihira, Kalyana Verma and Prithu Yasas were all collectively wrong. So I prefer to give them the benefit of doubt. I cannot stress more that they all agreed and absolutely unambiguously so.> I would calculate it from Lagna and Moon. This is also > in Sanjay Raths Article. Rath: As I have been telling again and again, there is much more to the dasa than wht catches your eye and there is much more in those words of the great authors than what our brain comprehends. The author Kalyan Verma is a very respected name and their point is clear and unambiguous about starting of Dasa from Lagna, Sun or Moon, whichever is stronger. Can you give me the exact quote from Varahamihira? If you read Moola dasa results carefully as given by Kalyan Verma, you will also find the results of LAGNA. Any insights on this? I must have a valid reason as to why I exclude the Sun in natal charts and in conception charts, I consider ONLY Lagna and Sun and exclude the Moon. i have taken a few classes on conception charts in delhi and try to get those notes from sarat or Sarajit. This will help in clearing this. Lagna & Sun in conception charts and Lagna & Moon in natal charts. One for creation and the other for sustenance...think on these lines. Adding both together, you will see that i am saying the same thing as Varahamihira, Kalyan Verma and others that the stronest of Lagna, Sun and Moon are to be considered.Just that I am clarifying even further...for the benefit of all. if there are still doubts better read the chapters relating to the conception chart. With best wishesSanjay RathArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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