CHART OF A CHILD

January 14, 2002

Dear Shailesh,

Could you post some more information regarding the kind of problems the child had at birth? With the birth so close to the border, that may help the list work out what the ascendant should be.

Happy Thai Pongal, everyone!

Best wishes,

Nimmi

-

Shailesh

Monday, January 14, 2002 4:06 PM

[Hare Rama Krishna] CHART OF A CHILD

Dear List,

The attached chart [ also pasted below] belongs to a child who nearly passed away on birth - his survival was a near miracle.

Because of his difficult birth, his family is scared about his survival - and if he survives, his longevity and physical/ celebral development.

Since the birth was thru a ceasarean section, birth-time could be a little inaccurate. [ There was a little confusion about time - 3.55am or 4.05am - the latter is the recorded time.]

I am too novice for doing a proper analysis and, therefore, request the learned jyotishas on this list to kindly give their reading of this chart.

What I did notice is:

- Badhakesh in Lagna

- Starting Vim Dasa of JUP/SAT/MAR - badhakesh(7th lord)/8th lord/ 6th lord

- Combination of JUP & RAHU in Lagna ( negative for fathers longevity as per BHPS...?????)

- otherwise there are several Raj Yogas, etc., in the chart.

Please guide me.

Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha

July 11, 2001Time: 4:05:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 78 E 33' 00"Latitude: 17 N 27' 00"

Lunar Year: VrishaLunar Month: AshadhaTithi: Krishna Panchami (13.94% left)Weekday: TuesdayNakshatra: Poo.Bhaa. (76.21% left)Yoga: SoubhagyaKarana: TaitulaHora Lord: Mars

Sunrise: 5:47:49Sunset: 18:54:02Janma Ghatis: 55.7158

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak

Lagna 0 Ge 37' 07.92" Mrigasira 3 Ge Li -Sun 24 Ge 50' 41.23" Punarvasu 2 Ge Ta AKMoon 23 Aq 10' 20.48" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar AmKMars ® 21 Sc 48' 14.03" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp BKMercury 3 Ge 55' 42.42" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc DKJupiter 5 Ge 40' 30.91" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc GKVenus 11 Ta 51' 35.30" Rohini 1 Ta Ar PKSaturn 16 Ta 13' 02.83" Rohini 2 Ta Ta PiKRahu 11 Ge 42' 03.08" Aardra 2 Ge Cp MKKetu 11 Sg 42' 03.08" Moola 4 Sg Cn -Uranus ® 0 Aq 17' 07.11" Dhanishtha 3 Aq Li -Neptune ® 14 Cp 01' 17.71" Sravanam 2 Cp Ta -Pluto ® 19 Sc 08' 32.74" Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg -Bhava Lagna 28 Ta 15' 16.05" Mrigasira 2 Ta Vi -Hora Lagna 2 Ta 32' 57.97" Krittika 2 Ta Cp -Ghati Lagna 15 Aq 26' 03.72" Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq -Vighati Lagna 19 Cp 51' 32.48" Sravanam 3 Cp Ge -Pranapada Lagna 20 Ta 44' 39.58" Rohini 4 Ta Cn -Sree Lagna 26 Le 16' 21.01" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc -Indu Lagna 23 Aq 10' 20.48" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -Kunda 20 Sc 07' 41.81" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp -Dhooma 8 Sc 10' 41.23" Anuradha 2 Sc Vi -Vyatipata 21 Le 49' 18.77" Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li -Parivesha 21 Aq 49' 18.77" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -Indra Chapa 8 Ta 10' 41.23" Krittika 4 Ta Pi -Upaketu 24 Ta 50' 41.23" Mrigasira 1 Ta Le -Kaala 22 Aq 43' 17.30" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -Mrityu 13 Ar 15' 30.82" Aswini 4 Ar Cn -Artha Prahara 5 Ta 44' 33.15" Krittika 3 Ta Aq -Yama Ghantaka 26 Ta 01' 27.59" Mrigasira 1 Ta Le -Maandi 5 Cp 38' 43.38" U.Shaa. 3 Cp Aq -Gulika 25 Sg 18' 48.12" Poo.Shaa. 4 Sg Sc -Varnada Lagna 26 Sg 49' 54.11" U.Shaa. 1 Sg Sg -

+--------------+|AL | |Ven Sat |Asc Sun || | |HL |Mer Jup || | | |Rah || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Moo GL | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Mnd | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ket Glk |MarR | | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

+--------------+| |Moo Ven |Sun Sat | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||GL Mnd | |Ket AL || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||MarR Rah | | ||HL | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Mer Jup |Asc | || |Glk | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Jup Jup 1997-09-19 Sat 1999-11-07 Mer 2002-05-21 Ket 2004-08-26 Ven 2005-08-01 Sun 2008-04-01 Moo 2009-01-19 Mar 2010-05-21 Rah 2011-04-27 Sat Sat 2013-09-19 Mer 2016-09-22 Ket 2019-06-02 Ven 2020-07-11 Sun 2023-09-10 Moo 2024-08-22 Mar 2026-03-24 Rah 2027-05-03 Jup 2030-03-08 Mer Mer 2032-09-19 Ket 2035-02-15 Ven 2036-02-13 Sun 2038-12-13 Moo 2039-10-20 Mar 2041-03-20 Rah 2042-03-18 Jup 2044-10-04 Sat 2047-01-10 Ket Ket 2049-09-19 Ven 2050-02-15 Sun 2051-04-17 Moo 2051-08-23 Mar 2052-03-23 Rah 2052-08-19 Jup 2053-09-07 Sat 2054-08-14 Mer 2055-09-22 Ven Ven 2056-09-19 Sun 2060-01-19 Moo 2061-01-18 Mar 2062-09-19 Rah 2063-11-19 Jup 2066-11-19 Sat 2069-07-20 Mer 2072-09-18 Ket 2075-07-20 Sun Sun 2076-09-18 Moo 2077-01-06 Mar 2077-07-08 Rah 2077-11-12 Jup 2078-10-07 Sat 2079-07-26 Mer 2080-07-07 Ket 2081-05-14 Ven 2081-09-19 Moo Moo 2082-09-19 Mar 2083-07-20 Rah 2084-02-18 Jup 2085-08-19 Sat 2086-12-19 Mer 2088-07-19 Ket 2089-12-19 Ven 2090-07-20 Sun 2092-03-20 Mar Mar 2092-09-18 Rah 2093-02-14 Jup 2094-03-05 Sat 2095-02-09 Mer 2096-03-20 Ket 2097-03-17 Ven 2097-08-13 Sun 2098-10-13 Moo 2099-02-18 Rah Rah 2099-09-19 Jup 2102-06-02 Sat 2104-10-26 Mer 2107-09-02 Ket 2110-03-21 Ven 2111-04-09 Sun 2114-04-08 Moo 2115-03-03 Mar 2116-09-01

January 14, 2002

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah!

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Dear Shailesh,

Looking at the chart, i have little doubt about Taurus being the lagna.

In case of Gemini Lagna; Mercury, Sun and Jupiter all being benefics for health, are in lagna protecting the native. Jupiter maybe Badhakesh, but rarely do we see the Badhakesh killing someone. Rahu here, is giving some problems thou.

In case of Taurus Lagna; Saturn becomes Marana Karaka, and can kill. Venus in Lagna protects the native, and lets them grow stronger day by day. The many planets in 2nd are also Marakas remember, but theres a beneficial dominance.

I was also convinced after calculating a special Hora chart, which i believe is for this purpose, but i won't comment on that.

Using Taurus as Lagna, the Lagnamsa should fall in Virgo, who has Jupiter and Moon becoming Marana Karakas for it, showing near death. Venus in 8th can show premature birth.

Usually in case of cesarians, e've been taught that Nodes should associate with lagna. Dunno if the case would be the same with Rahu+Mars in trines.

Those were my thoughts, rather i'd have them corrected before even commenting on longevity.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Shailesh

Monday, January 14, 2002 5:06 PM

[Hare Rama Krishna] CHART OF A CHILD

Dear List,

The attached chart [ also pasted below] belongs to a child who nearly passed away on birth - his survival was a near miracle.

Because of his difficult birth, his family is scared about his survival - and if he survives, his longevity and physical/ celebral development.

Since the birth was thru a ceasarean section, birth-time could be a little inaccurate. [ There was a little confusion about time - 3.55am or 4.05am - the latter is the recorded time.]

I am too novice for doing a proper analysis and, therefore, request the learned jyotishas on this list to kindly give their reading of this chart.

What I did notice is:

- Badhakesh in Lagna

- Starting Vim Dasa of JUP/SAT/MAR - badhakesh(7th lord)/8th lord/ 6th lord

- Combination of JUP & RAHU in Lagna ( negative for fathers longevity as per BHPS...?????)

- otherwise there are several Raj Yogas, etc., in the chart.

Please guide me.

Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha

July 11, 2001Time: 4:05:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 78 E 33' 00"Latitude: 17 N 27' 00"

Lunar Year: VrishaLunar Month: AshadhaTithi: Krishna Panchami (13.94% left)Weekday: TuesdayNakshatra: Poo.Bhaa. (76.21% left)Yoga: SoubhagyaKarana: TaitulaHora Lord: Mars

Sunrise: 5:47:49Sunset: 18:54:02Janma Ghatis: 55.7158

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak

Lagna 0 Ge 37' 07.92" Mrigasira 3 Ge Li -Sun 24 Ge 50' 41.23" Punarvasu 2 Ge Ta AKMoon 23 Aq 10' 20.48" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar AmKMars ® 21 Sc 48' 14.03" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp BKMercury 3 Ge 55' 42.42" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc DKJupiter 5 Ge 40' 30.91" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc GKVenus 11 Ta 51' 35.30" Rohini 1 Ta Ar PKSaturn 16 Ta 13' 02.83" Rohini 2 Ta Ta PiKRahu 11 Ge 42' 03.08" Aardra 2 Ge Cp MKKetu 11 Sg 42' 03.08" Moola 4 Sg Cn -Uranus ® 0 Aq 17' 07.11" Dhanishtha 3 Aq Li -Neptune ® 14 Cp 01' 17.71" Sravanam 2 Cp Ta -Pluto ® 19 Sc 08' 32.74" Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg -Bhava Lagna 28 Ta 15' 16.05" Mrigasira 2 Ta Vi -Hora Lagna 2 Ta 32' 57.97" Krittika 2 Ta Cp -Ghati Lagna 15 Aq 26' 03.72" Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq -Vighati Lagna 19 Cp 51' 32.48" Sravanam 3 Cp Ge -Pranapada Lagna 20 Ta 44' 39.58" Rohini 4 Ta Cn -Sree Lagna 26 Le 16' 21.01" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc -Indu Lagna 23 Aq 10' 20.48" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -Kunda 20 Sc 07' 41.81" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp -Dhooma 8 Sc 10' 41.23" Anuradha 2 Sc Vi -Vyatipata 21 Le 49' 18.77" Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li -Parivesha 21 Aq 49' 18.77" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -Indra Chapa 8 Ta 10' 41.23" Krittika 4 Ta Pi -Upaketu 24 Ta 50' 41.23" Mrigasira 1 Ta Le -Kaala 22 Aq 43' 17.30" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -Mrityu 13 Ar 15' 30.82" Aswini 4 Ar Cn -Artha Prahara 5 Ta 44' 33.15" Krittika 3 Ta Aq -Yama Ghantaka 26 Ta 01' 27.59" Mrigasira 1 Ta Le -Maandi 5 Cp 38' 43.38" U.Shaa. 3 Cp Aq -Gulika 25 Sg 18' 48.12" Poo.Shaa. 4 Sg Sc -Varnada Lagna 26 Sg 49' 54.11" U.Shaa. 1 Sg Sg -

+--------------+|AL | |Ven Sat |Asc Sun || | |HL |Mer Jup || | | |Rah || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Moo GL | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Mnd | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ket Glk |MarR | | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

+--------------+| |Moo Ven |Sun Sat | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||GL Mnd | |Ket AL || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||MarR Rah | | ||HL | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Mer Jup |Asc | || |Glk | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Jup Jup 1997-09-19 Sat 1999-11-07 Mer 2002-05-21 Ket 2004-08-26 Ven 2005-08-01 Sun 2008-04-01 Moo 2009-01-19 Mar 2010-05-21 Rah 2011-04-27 Sat Sat 2013-09-19 Mer 2016-09-22 Ket 2019-06-02 Ven 2020-07-11 Sun 2023-09-10 Moo 2024-08-22 Mar 2026-03-24 Rah 2027-05-03 Jup 2030-03-08 Mer Mer 2032-09-19 Ket 2035-02-15 Ven 2036-02-13 Sun 2038-12-13 Moo 2039-10-20 Mar 2041-03-20 Rah 2042-03-18 Jup 2044-10-04 Sat 2047-01-10 Ket Ket 2049-09-19 Ven 2050-02-15 Sun 2051-04-17 Moo 2051-08-23 Mar 2052-03-23 Rah 2052-08-19 Jup 2053-09-07 Sat 2054-08-14 Mer 2055-09-22 Ven Ven 2056-09-19 Sun 2060-01-19 Moo 2061-01-18 Mar 2062-09-19 Rah 2063-11-19 Jup 2066-11-19 Sat 2069-07-20 Mer 2072-09-18 Ket 2075-07-20 Sun Sun 2076-09-18 Moo 2077-01-06 Mar 2077-07-08 Rah 2077-11-12 Jup 2078-10-07 Sat 2079-07-26 Mer 2080-07-07 Ket 2081-05-14 Ven 2081-09-19 Moo Moo 2082-09-19 Mar 2083-07-20 Rah 2084-02-18 Jup 2085-08-19 Sat 2086-12-19 Mer 2088-07-19 Ket 2089-12-19 Ven 2090-07-20 Sun 2092-03-20 Mar Mar 2092-09-18 Rah 2093-02-14 Jup 2094-03-05 Sat 2095-02-09 Mer 2096-03-20 Ket 2097-03-17 Ven 2097-08-13 Sun 2098-10-13 Moo 2099-02-18 Rah Rah 2099-09-19 Jup 2102-06-02 Sat 2104-10-26 Mer 2107-09-02 Ket 2110-03-21 Ven 2111-04-09 Sun 2114-04-08 Moo 2115-03-03 Mar 2116-09-01

January 15, 2002

Dear Nimmi & Visti,

Thanks for responding.

The baby had two problems - he had a lung infection and also the child was born with some wrapping around his chest. These two caused severe breathing problems to the child - and due to attending doctor's error, the infection prolonged to 10-12 days until another doctor took over.

Secondly, the circumfrence of his head was, & is, less than normal - though brain scan finding was 'normal'. That is why the worry about celerbal development.

I am also pasting here mother's chart - if it helps.

March 29, 1975Time: 11:42:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 78 E 33' 00"Latitude: 17 N 27' 00"

Lunar Year: AnandaLunar Month: PhalgunaTithi: Krishna Tritiya (90.56% left)Weekday: SaturdayNakshatra: Swathi (78.31% left)Yoga: HarshanaKarana: VanijaHora Lord: Mercury

Sunrise: 6:14:25Sunset: 18:28:21Janma Ghatis: 13.6494

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak

Lagna 11 Ge 25' 23.61" Aardra 2 Ge Cp -Sun 14 Pi 25' 35.75" U.Bhaa. 4 Pi Sc PKMoon 9 Li 33' 33.48" Swathi 1 Li Sg GKMars 26 Cp 10' 59.84" Dhanishtha 1 Cp Le AKMercury 25 Aq 42' 02.41" Poo.Bhaa. 2 Aq Ta AmKJupiter 9 Pi 02' 55.27" U.Bhaa. 2 Pi Vi DKVenus 17 Ar 47' 47.61" Bharani 2 Ar Vi PiKSaturn 18 Ge 38' 10.89" Aardra 4 Ge Pi MKRahu 10 Sc 27' 36.24" Anuradha 3 Sc Li BKKetu 10 Ta 27' 36.24" Rohini 1 Ta Ar -

+--------------+|Sun Jup |Ven |Ket GL |Asc Sat ||Mnd Glk | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Mer | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Mar | |HL || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Rah |Moo AL | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

+--------------+|Sat Mnd |Ket |Mer AL | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||GL | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||Asc | |Mar || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Moo HL |Sun Glk |Rah |Jup Ven || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Rah Rah 1971-05-03 Jup 1974-01-13 Sat 1976-06-07 Mer 1979-04-14 Ket 1981-11-01 Ven 1982-11-19 Sun 1985-11-19 Moo 1986-10-14 Mar 1988-04-14 Jup Jup 1989-05-02 Sat 1991-06-20 Mer 1994-01-01 Ket 1996-04-07 Ven 1997-03-14 Sun 1999-11-13 Moo 2000-08-31 Mar 2001-12-31 Rah 2002-12-07 Sat Sat 2005-05-02 Mer 2008-05-05 Ket 2011-01-13 Ven 2012-02-22 Sun 2015-04-23 Moo 2016-04-04 Mar 2017-11-04 Rah 2018-12-13 Jup 2021-10-19 Mer Mer 2024-05-02 Ket 2026-09-28 Ven 2027-09-25 Sun 2030-07-26 Moo 2031-06-02 Mar 2032-10-31 Rah 2033-10-28 Jup 2036-05-17 Sat 2038-08-23 Ket Ket 2041-05-02 Ven 2041-09-28 Sun 2042-11-28 Moo 2043-04-05 Mar 2043-11-04 Rah 2044-04-01 Jup 2045-04-19 Sat 2046-03-26 Mer 2047-05-05 Ven Ven 2048-05-01 Sun 2051-09-01 Moo 2052-08-31 Mar 2054-05-02 Rah 2055-07-02 Jup 2058-07-02 Sat 2061-03-02 Mer 2064-05-01 Ket 2067-03-02 Sun Sun 2068-05-01 Moo 2068-08-19 Mar 2069-02-17 Rah 2069-06-25 Jup 2070-05-20 Sat 2071-03-08 Mer 2072-02-18 Ket 2072-12-25 Ven 2073-05-01 Moo Moo 2074-05-02 Mar 2075-03-02 Rah 2075-10-01 Jup 2077-04-01 Sat 2078-08-01 Mer 2080-03-01 Ket 2081-08-01 Ven 2082-03-02 Sun 2083-10-31 Mar Mar 2084-05-01 Rah 2084-09-27 Jup 2085-10-16 Sat 2086-09-22 Mer 2087-10-31 Ket 2088-10-28 Ven 2089-03-26 Sun 2090-05-26 Moo 2090-10-01

Regards

Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha

-

Nimmi Ragavan

varahamihira

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:15 AM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] CHART OF A CHILD

Dear Shailesh,

Could you post some more information regarding the kind of problems the child had at birth? With the birth so close to the border, that may help the list work out what the ascendant should be.

Happy Thai Pongal, everyone!

Best wishes,

Nimmi

-

Visti Larsen

varahamihira

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:09 AM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] CHART OF A CHILD

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah!

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Dear Shailesh,

Looking at the chart, i have little doubt about Taurus being the lagna.

In case of Gemini Lagna; Mercury, Sun and Jupiter all being benefics for health, are in lagna protecting the native. Jupiter maybe Badhakesh, but rarely do we see the Badhakesh killing someone. Rahu here, is giving some problems thou.

In case of Taurus Lagna; Saturn becomes Marana Karaka, and can kill. Venus in Lagna protects the native, and lets them grow stronger day by day. The many planets in 2nd are also Marakas remember, but theres a beneficial dominance.

I was also convinced after calculating a special Hora chart, which i believe is for this purpose, but i won't comment on that.

Using Taurus as Lagna, the Lagnamsa should fall in Virgo, who has Jupiter and Moon becoming Marana Karakas for it, showing near death. Venus in 8th can show premature birth.

Usually in case of cesarians, e've been taught that Nodes should associate with lagna. Dunno if the case would be the same with Rahu+Mars in trines.

Those were my thoughts, rather i'd have them corrected before even commenting on longevity.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Shailesh

Monday, January 14, 2002 4:06 PM

[Hare Rama Krishna] CHART OF A CHILD

Dear List,

The attached chart [ also pasted below] belongs to a child who nearly passed away on birth - his survival was a near miracle.

Because of his difficult birth, his family is scared about his survival - and if he survives, his longevity and physical/ celebral development.

Since the birth was thru a ceasarean section, birth-time could be a little inaccurate. [ There was a little confusion about time - 3.55am or 4.05am - the latter is the recorded time.]

I am too novice for doing a proper analysis and, therefore, request the learned jyotishas on this list to kindly give their reading of this chart.

What I did notice is:

- Badhakesh in Lagna

- Starting Vim Dasa of JUP/SAT/MAR - badhakesh(7th lord)/8th lord/ 6th lord

- Combination of JUP & RAHU in Lagna ( negative for fathers longevity as per BHPS...?????)

- otherwise there are several Raj Yogas, etc., in the chart.

Please guide me.

Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha

July 11, 2001Time: 4:05:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 78 E 33' 00"Latitude: 17 N 27' 00"

Lunar Year: VrishaLunar Month: AshadhaTithi: Krishna Panchami (13.94% left)Weekday: TuesdayNakshatra: Poo.Bhaa. (76.21% left)Yoga: SoubhagyaKarana: TaitulaHora Lord: Mars

Sunrise: 5:47:49Sunset: 18:54:02Janma Ghatis: 55.7158

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak

Lagna 0 Ge 37' 07.92" Mrigasira 3 Ge Li -Sun 24 Ge 50' 41.23" Punarvasu 2 Ge Ta AKMoon 23 Aq 10' 20.48" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar AmKMars ® 21 Sc 48' 14.03" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp BKMercury 3 Ge 55' 42.42" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc DKJupiter 5 Ge 40' 30.91" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc GKVenus 11 Ta 51' 35.30" Rohini 1 Ta Ar PKSaturn 16 Ta 13' 02.83" Rohini 2 Ta Ta PiKRahu 11 Ge 42' 03.08" Aardra 2 Ge Cp MKKetu 11 Sg 42' 03.08" Moola 4 Sg Cn -Uranus ® 0 Aq 17' 07.11" Dhanishtha 3 Aq Li -Neptune ® 14 Cp 01' 17.71" Sravanam 2 Cp Ta -Pluto ® 19 Sc 08' 32.74" Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg -Bhava Lagna 28 Ta 15' 16.05" Mrigasira 2 Ta Vi -Hora Lagna 2 Ta 32' 57.97" Krittika 2 Ta Cp -Ghati Lagna 15 Aq 26' 03.72" Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq -Vighati Lagna 19 Cp 51' 32.48" Sravanam 3 Cp Ge -Pranapada Lagna 20 Ta 44' 39.58" Rohini 4 Ta Cn -Sree Lagna 26 Le 16' 21.01" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc -Indu Lagna 23 Aq 10' 20.48" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -Kunda 20 Sc 07' 41.81" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp -Dhooma 8 Sc 10' 41.23" Anuradha 2 Sc Vi -Vyatipata 21 Le 49' 18.77" Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li -Parivesha 21 Aq 49' 18.77" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -Indra Chapa 8 Ta 10' 41.23" Krittika 4 Ta Pi -Upaketu 24 Ta 50' 41.23" Mrigasira 1 Ta Le -Kaala 22 Aq 43' 17.30" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -Mrityu 13 Ar 15' 30.82" Aswini 4 Ar Cn -Artha Prahara 5 Ta 44' 33.15" Krittika 3 Ta Aq -Yama Ghantaka 26 Ta 01' 27.59" Mrigasira 1 Ta Le -Maandi 5 Cp 38' 43.38" U.Shaa. 3 Cp Aq -Gulika 25 Sg 18' 48.12" Poo.Shaa. 4 Sg Sc -Varnada Lagna 26 Sg 49' 54.11" U.Shaa. 1 Sg Sg -

+--------------+|AL | |Ven Sat |Asc Sun || | |HL |Mer Jup || | | |Rah || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Moo GL | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Mnd | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ket Glk |MarR | | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

+--------------+| |Moo Ven |Sun Sat | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||GL Mnd | |Ket AL || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||MarR Rah | | ||HL | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Mer Jup |Asc | || |Glk | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Jup Jup 1997-09-19 Sat 1999-11-07 Mer 2002-05-21 Ket 2004-08-26 Ven 2005-08-01 Sun 2008-04-01 Moo 2009-01-19 Mar 2010-05-21 Rah 2011-04-27 Sat Sat 2013-09-19 Mer 2016-09-22 Ket 2019-06-02 Ven 2020-07-11 Sun 2023-09-10 Moo 2024-08-22 Mar 2026-03-24 Rah 2027-05-03 Jup 2030-03-08 Mer Mer 2032-09-19 Ket 2035-02-15 Ven 2036-02-13 Sun 2038-12-13 Moo 2039-10-20 Mar 2041-03-20 Rah 2042-03-18 Jup 2044-10-04 Sat 2047-01-10 Ket Ket 2049-09-19 Ven 2050-02-15 Sun 2051-04-17 Moo 2051-08-23 Mar 2052-03-23 Rah 2052-08-19 Jup 2053-09-07 Sat 2054-08-14 Mer 2055-09-22 Ven Ven 2056-09-19 Sun 2060-01-19 Moo 2061-01-18 Mar 2062-09-19 Rah 2063-11-19 Jup 2066-11-19 Sat 2069-07-20 Mer 2072-09-18 Ket 2075-07-20 Sun Sun 2076-09-18 Moo 2077-01-06 Mar 2077-07-08 Rah 2077-11-12 Jup 2078-10-07 Sat 2079-07-26 Mer 2080-07-07 Ket 2081-05-14 Ven 2081-09-19 Moo Moo 2082-09-19 Mar 2083-07-20 Rah 2084-02-18 Jup 2085-08-19 Sat 2086-12-19 Mer 2088-07-19 Ket 2089-12-19 Ven 2090-07-20 Sun 2092-03-20 Mar Mar 2092-09-18 Rah 2093-02-14 Jup 2094-03-05 Sat 2095-02-09 Mer 2096-03-20 Ket 2097-03-17 Ven 2097-08-13 Sun 2098-10-13 Moo 2099-02-18 Rah Rah 2099-09-19 Jup 2102-06-02 Sat 2104-10-26 Mer 2107-09-02 Ket 2110-03-21 Ven 2111-04-09 Sun 2114-04-08 Moo 2115-03-03 Mar 2116-09-01

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January 15, 2002

Shailesh,

You know, the one thing that gives me confidence is that in either case the child has lagnadhipadhi in lagna, giving resilience. In neither case is 8th lord associated with the ascendant or ruler. I am not sure the circumferance of the head is that important, probably gave the mother an easier birth. There are other checks for brain development etc that are done at birth and in the first year (reflexes etc) that are far more indicative. Paediatricians know these in detail.

My feeling is that the ascendant is Taurus - saturn in the ascendant would give a small head whereas rahu and jupiter would, I think, make it big. Also placement of 8th lord and rahu in gemini could indicate the breathing problem.In addition 3rd ruler moon is aspected by mars and saturn.

However, then saturn as 9th lord should still protect the child, and so longevity should not be a problem. And with a combined jupiter with mercury, even if rahu is there, I dont think that mental development should be hampered, especially as mercury is also 5th lord and joined with sun as 4th lord, forming a Nipuna Yog.

I have a vague feeling that 2nd house with Jupiter and Mercury (and sun?) is also significant....

Best wishes,

Nimmi

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Shailesh

varahamihira

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:41 AM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] CHART OF A CHILD

Dear Nimmi & Visti,

Thanks for responding.

The baby had two problems - he had a lung infection and also the child was born with some wrapping around his chest. These two caused severe breathing problems to the child - and due to attending doctor's error, the infection prolonged to 10-12 days until another doctor took over.

Secondly, the circumfrence of his head was, & is, less than normal - though brain scan finding was 'normal'. That is why the worry about celerbal development.

I am also pasting here mother's chart - if it helps.

March 29, 1975Time: 11:42:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 78 E 33' 00"Latitude: 17 N 27' 00"

Lunar Year: AnandaLunar Month: PhalgunaTithi: Krishna Tritiya (90.56% left)Weekday: SaturdayNakshatra: Swathi (78.31% left)Yoga: HarshanaKarana: VanijaHora Lord: Mercury

Sunrise: 6:14:25Sunset: 18:28:21Janma Ghatis: 13.6494

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak

Lagna 11 Ge 25' 23.61" Aardra 2 Ge Cp -Sun 14 Pi 25' 35.75" U.Bhaa. 4 Pi Sc PKMoon 9 Li 33' 33.48" Swathi 1 Li Sg GKMars 26 Cp 10' 59.84" Dhanishtha 1 Cp Le AKMercury 25 Aq 42' 02.41" Poo.Bhaa. 2 Aq Ta AmKJupiter 9 Pi 02' 55.27" U.Bhaa. 2 Pi Vi DKVenus 17 Ar 47' 47.61" Bharani 2 Ar Vi PiKSaturn 18 Ge 38' 10.89" Aardra 4 Ge Pi MKRahu 10 Sc 27' 36.24" Anuradha 3 Sc Li BKKetu 10 Ta 27' 36.24" Rohini 1 Ta Ar -

+--------------+|Sun Jup |Ven |Ket GL |Asc Sat ||Mnd Glk | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Mer | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Mar | |HL || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Rah |Moo AL | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

+--------------+|Sat Mnd |Ket |Mer AL | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||GL | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||Asc | |Mar || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Moo HL |Sun Glk |Rah |Jup Ven || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Rah Rah 1971-05-03 Jup 1974-01-13 Sat 1976-06-07 Mer 1979-04-14 Ket 1981-11-01 Ven 1982-11-19 Sun 1985-11-19 Moo 1986-10-14 Mar 1988-04-14 Jup Jup 1989-05-02 Sat 1991-06-20 Mer 1994-01-01 Ket 1996-04-07 Ven 1997-03-14 Sun 1999-11-13 Moo 2000-08-31 Mar 2001-12-31 Rah 2002-12-07 Sat Sat 2005-05-02 Mer 2008-05-05 Ket 2011-01-13 Ven 2012-02-22 Sun 2015-04-23 Moo 2016-04-04 Mar 2017-11-04 Rah 2018-12-13 Jup 2021-10-19 Mer Mer 2024-05-02 Ket 2026-09-28 Ven 2027-09-25 Sun 2030-07-26 Moo 2031-06-02 Mar 2032-10-31 Rah 2033-10-28 Jup 2036-05-17 Sat 2038-08-23 Ket Ket 2041-05-02 Ven 2041-09-28 Sun 2042-11-28 Moo 2043-04-05 Mar 2043-11-04 Rah 2044-04-01 Jup 2045-04-19 Sat 2046-03-26 Mer 2047-05-05 Ven Ven 2048-05-01 Sun 2051-09-01 Moo 2052-08-31 Mar 2054-05-02 Rah 2055-07-02 Jup 2058-07-02 Sat 2061-03-02 Mer 2064-05-01 Ket 2067-03-02 Sun Sun 2068-05-01 Moo 2068-08-19 Mar 2069-02-17 Rah 2069-06-25 Jup 2070-05-20 Sat 2071-03-08 Mer 2072-02-18 Ket 2072-12-25 Ven 2073-05-01 Moo Moo 2074-05-02 Mar 2075-03-02 Rah 2075-10-01 Jup 2077-04-01 Sat 2078-08-01 Mer 2080-03-01 Ket 2081-08-01 Ven 2082-03-02 Sun 2083-10-31 Mar Mar 2084-05-01 Rah 2084-09-27 Jup 2085-10-16 Sat 2086-09-22 Mer 2087-10-31 Ket 2088-10-28 Ven 2089-03-26 Sun 2090-05-26 Moo 2090-10-01

Regards

Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha

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Nimmi Ragavan

varahamihira

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:15 AM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] CHART OF A CHILD

Dear Shailesh,

Could you post some more information regarding the kind of problems the child had at birth? With the birth so close to the border, that may help the list work out what the ascendant should be.

Happy Thai Pongal, everyone!

Best wishes,

Nimmi

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Visti Larsen

varahamihira

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:09 AM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] CHART OF A CHILD

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah!

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Dear Shailesh,

Looking at the chart, i have little doubt about Taurus being the lagna.

In case of Gemini Lagna; Mercury, Sun and Jupiter all being benefics for health, are in lagna protecting the native. Jupiter maybe Badhakesh, but rarely do we see the Badhakesh killing someone. Rahu here, is giving some problems thou.

In case of Taurus Lagna; Saturn becomes Marana Karaka, and can kill. Venus in Lagna protects the native, and lets them grow stronger day by day. The many planets in 2nd are also Marakas remember, but theres a beneficial dominance.

I was also convinced after calculating a special Hora chart, which i believe is for this purpose, but i won't comment on that.

Using Taurus as Lagna, the Lagnamsa should fall in Virgo, who has Jupiter and Moon becoming Marana Karakas for it, showing near death. Venus in 8th can show premature birth.

Usually in case of cesarians, e've been taught that Nodes should associate with lagna. Dunno if the case would be the same with Rahu+Mars in trines.

Those were my thoughts, rather i'd have them corrected before even commenting on longevity.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Shailesh

Monday, January 14, 2002 4:06 PM

[Hare Rama Krishna] CHART OF A CHILD

Dear List,

The attached chart [ also pasted below] belongs to a child who nearly passed away on birth - his survival was a near miracle.

Because of his difficult birth, his family is scared about his survival - and if he survives, his longevity and physical/ celebral development.

Since the birth was thru a ceasarean section, birth-time could be a little inaccurate. [ There was a little confusion about time - 3.55am or 4.05am - the latter is the recorded time.]

I am too novice for doing a proper analysis and, therefore, request the learned jyotishas on this list to kindly give their reading of this chart.

What I did notice is:

- Badhakesh in Lagna

- Starting Vim Dasa of JUP/SAT/MAR - badhakesh(7th lord)/8th lord/ 6th lord

- Combination of JUP & RAHU in Lagna ( negative for fathers longevity as per BHPS...?????)

- otherwise there are several Raj Yogas, etc., in the chart.

Please guide me.

Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha

July 11, 2001Time: 4:05:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 78 E 33' 00"Latitude: 17 N 27' 00"

Lunar Year: VrishaLunar Month: AshadhaTithi: Krishna Panchami (13.94% left)Weekday: TuesdayNakshatra: Poo.Bhaa. (76.21% left)Yoga: SoubhagyaKarana: TaitulaHora Lord: Mars

Sunrise: 5:47:49Sunset: 18:54:02Janma Ghatis: 55.7158

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak

Lagna 0 Ge 37' 07.92" Mrigasira 3 Ge Li -Sun 24 Ge 50' 41.23" Punarvasu 2 Ge Ta AKMoon 23 Aq 10' 20.48" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar AmKMars ® 21 Sc 48' 14.03" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp BKMercury 3 Ge 55' 42.42" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc DKJupiter 5 Ge 40' 30.91" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc GKVenus 11 Ta 51' 35.30" Rohini 1 Ta Ar PKSaturn 16 Ta 13' 02.83" Rohini 2 Ta Ta PiKRahu 11 Ge 42' 03.08" Aardra 2 Ge Cp MKKetu 11 Sg 42' 03.08" Moola 4 Sg Cn -Uranus ® 0 Aq 17' 07.11" Dhanishtha 3 Aq Li -Neptune ® 14 Cp 01' 17.71" Sravanam 2 Cp Ta -Pluto ® 19 Sc 08' 32.74" Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg -Bhava Lagna 28 Ta 15' 16.05" Mrigasira 2 Ta Vi -Hora Lagna 2 Ta 32' 57.97" Krittika 2 Ta Cp -Ghati Lagna 15 Aq 26' 03.72" Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq -Vighati Lagna 19 Cp 51' 32.48" Sravanam 3 Cp Ge -Pranapada Lagna 20 Ta 44' 39.58" Rohini 4 Ta Cn -Sree Lagna 26 Le 16' 21.01" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc -Indu Lagna 23 Aq 10' 20.48" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -Kunda 20 Sc 07' 41.81" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp -Dhooma 8 Sc 10' 41.23" Anuradha 2 Sc Vi -Vyatipata 21 Le 49' 18.77" Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li -Parivesha 21 Aq 49' 18.77" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -Indra Chapa 8 Ta 10' 41.23" Krittika 4 Ta Pi -Upaketu 24 Ta 50' 41.23" Mrigasira 1 Ta Le -Kaala 22 Aq 43' 17.30" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -Mrityu 13 Ar 15' 30.82" Aswini 4 Ar Cn -Artha Prahara 5 Ta 44' 33.15" Krittika 3 Ta Aq -Yama Ghantaka 26 Ta 01' 27.59" Mrigasira 1 Ta Le -Maandi 5 Cp 38' 43.38" U.Shaa. 3 Cp Aq -Gulika 25 Sg 18' 48.12" Poo.Shaa. 4 Sg Sc -Varnada Lagna 26 Sg 49' 54.11" U.Shaa. 1 Sg Sg -

+--------------+|AL | |Ven Sat |Asc Sun || | |HL |Mer Jup || | | |Rah || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Moo GL | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Mnd | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ket Glk |MarR | | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

+--------------+| |Moo Ven |Sun Sat | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||GL Mnd | |Ket AL || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||MarR Rah | | ||HL | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Mer Jup |Asc | || |Glk | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Jup Jup 1997-09-19 Sat 1999-11-07 Mer 2002-05-21 Ket 2004-08-26 Ven 2005-08-01 Sun 2008-04-01 Moo 2009-01-19 Mar 2010-05-21 Rah 2011-04-27 Sat Sat 2013-09-19 Mer 2016-09-22 Ket 2019-06-02 Ven 2020-07-11 Sun 2023-09-10 Moo 2024-08-22 Mar 2026-03-24 Rah 2027-05-03 Jup 2030-03-08 Mer Mer 2032-09-19 Ket 2035-02-15 Ven 2036-02-13 Sun 2038-12-13 Moo 2039-10-20 Mar 2041-03-20 Rah 2042-03-18 Jup 2044-10-04 Sat 2047-01-10 Ket Ket 2049-09-19 Ven 2050-02-15 Sun 2051-04-17 Moo 2051-08-23 Mar 2052-03-23 Rah 2052-08-19 Jup 2053-09-07 Sat 2054-08-14 Mer 2055-09-22 Ven Ven 2056-09-19 Sun 2060-01-19 Moo 2061-01-18 Mar 2062-09-19 Rah 2063-11-19 Jup 2066-11-19 Sat 2069-07-20 Mer 2072-09-18 Ket 2075-07-20 Sun Sun 2076-09-18 Moo 2077-01-06 Mar 2077-07-08 Rah 2077-11-12 Jup 2078-10-07 Sat 2079-07-26 Mer 2080-07-07 Ket 2081-05-14 Ven 2081-09-19 Moo Moo 2082-09-19 Mar 2083-07-20 Rah 2084-02-18 Jup 2085-08-19 Sat 2086-12-19 Mer 2088-07-19 Ket 2089-12-19 Ven 2090-07-20 Sun 2092-03-20 Mar Mar 2092-09-18 Rah 2093-02-14 Jup 2094-03-05 Sat 2095-02-09 Mer 2096-03-20 Ket 2097-03-17 Ven 2097-08-13 Sun 2098-10-13 Moo 2099-02-18 Rah Rah 2099-09-19 Jup 2102-06-02 Sat 2104-10-26 Mer 2107-09-02 Ket 2110-03-21 Ven 2111-04-09 Sun 2114-04-08 Moo 2115-03-03 Mar 2116-09-01

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January 15, 2002

Dear Nimmi,

I have been able to dig out the following from classics - they appear to support TA lagna - birth-time of 4.02am or before.

BPHS: CH 12

8 Coiled Birth: If there be a birth in one of Mesh, Vrishabh and Simh Lagnas, containing either Shani, or Mangal, the birth of the child is with a coil around a limb. The corresponding limb will be in accordance with the Rashi, or Navamsha, rising.

SARAVALI CH 9

31. Should the 7th House and the Trines be occupied by malefics, the delivery is not without trouble.

42. When Leo, Aries, or Taurus rises with Mars, or Saturn, there will be coil around the limb, as indicated by the Navaańsha Lagna Raashi.

43-44. If the Lagna falls in a decanate of Mars, or Saturn, while malefics, or Moon occupy Lagna, with benefics relegated to 2nd, or 11th denote, that the child was born with navel cord coiled around. Should the Sun be in a Quadruped Sign, while others with strength remain in Dual Signs, it indicates, that twins were born coiled by same navel cord.

This also gives him Mars decanate rising(the last point above: 43-44).

But the limbs corresponding to lagnas in D-1 & D-9 would be face & hips respectively - isn't it!!

Reg. the significance of head-circumfrence, even I am not sure. But I do remember that whenever we took our younger to son this particular paediatrician for any chech-up, he used to measure his head's circumfrence - always.[His head appeared to be unduly large at that age].

However, I have SA in Lagna, but a have a large [swollen ??? ] head :-) - so too with my elder son - we have problem finding right-sized caps, round-neck T-shirts, etc.

And, reg. planets in 2H, are you referring to the following:

[CH. 34]

15-20. PRINCIPLES RELATED TO THE 2ND HOUSE: If Mars, Saturn and the Sun occupy the 2nd House, the native’s wealth is destroyed. If weak Moon aspects the 2nd House, such effects are more pronounced. Mars and the Sun in the 2nd cause afflictions to skin apart from causing poverty. If Saturn, posited alone in this House, is aspected by Mercury, he will be greatly rich. Even, if the Sun is posited in the 2nd House in aspect to Saturn, without aspect of others, pennilessness will come to pass. Benefics in the 2nd House cause advent of money in many ways. But, if Jupiter posited in the 2nd House remains under Mercury’s aspect, or Mercury so posited in the 2nd House in aspect to the Moon, the entire wealth earned by the native will be deprived.

OR

[CH 16]

10. JUPITER-MERCURY-SUN YOGA. If Jupiter, Mercury and the Sun be together at birth, the native will be subjected to eye-diseases, be very wealthy, be interested in Shastras, fables, poetry, meetings and stonework and will become a good writer.

Regards

Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha

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Nimmi Ragavan

varahamihira

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 6:36 PM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] CHART OF A CHILD

Shailesh,

You know, the one thing that gives me confidence is that in either case the child has lagnadhipadhi in lagna, giving resilience. In neither case is 8th lord associated with the ascendant or ruler. I am not sure the circumferance of the head is that important, probably gave the mother an easier birth. There are other checks for brain development etc that are done at birth and in the first year (reflexes etc) that are far more indicative. Paediatricians know these in detail.

My feeling is that the ascendant is Taurus - saturn in the ascendant would give a small head whereas rahu and jupiter would, I think, make it big. Also placement of 8th lord and rahu in gemini could indicate the breathing problem.In addition 3rd ruler moon is aspected by mars and saturn.

However, then saturn as 9th lord should still protect the child, and so longevity should not be a problem. And with a combined jupiter with mercury, even if rahu is there, I dont think that mental development should be hampered, especially as mercury is also 5th lord and joined with sun as 4th lord, forming a Nipuna Yog.

I have a vague feeling that 2nd house with Jupiter and Mercury (and sun?) is also significant....

Best wishes,

Nimmi

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Shailesh

varahamihira

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:41 AM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] CHART OF A CHILD

Dear Nimmi & Visti,

Thanks for responding.

The baby had two problems - he had a lung infection and also the child was born with some wrapping around his chest. These two caused severe breathing problems to the child - and due to attending doctor's error, the infection prolonged to 10-12 days until another doctor took over.

Secondly, the circumfrence of his head was, & is, less than normal - though brain scan finding was 'normal'. That is why the worry about celerbal development.

I am also pasting here mother's chart - if it helps.

March 29, 1975Time: 11:42:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 78 E 33' 00"Latitude: 17 N 27' 00"

Lunar Year: AnandaLunar Month: PhalgunaTithi: Krishna Tritiya (90.56% left)Weekday: SaturdayNakshatra: Swathi (78.31% left)Yoga: HarshanaKarana: VanijaHora Lord: Mercury

Sunrise: 6:14:25Sunset: 18:28:21Janma Ghatis: 13.6494

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak

Lagna 11 Ge 25' 23.61" Aardra 2 Ge Cp -Sun 14 Pi 25' 35.75" U.Bhaa. 4 Pi Sc PKMoon 9 Li 33' 33.48" Swathi 1 Li Sg GKMars 26 Cp 10' 59.84" Dhanishtha 1 Cp Le AKMercury 25 Aq 42' 02.41" Poo.Bhaa. 2 Aq Ta AmKJupiter 9 Pi 02' 55.27" U.Bhaa. 2 Pi Vi DKVenus 17 Ar 47' 47.61" Bharani 2 Ar Vi PiKSaturn 18 Ge 38' 10.89" Aardra 4 Ge Pi MKRahu 10 Sc 27' 36.24" Anuradha 3 Sc Li BKKetu 10 Ta 27' 36.24" Rohini 1 Ta Ar -

+--------------+|Sun Jup |Ven |Ket GL |Asc Sat ||Mnd Glk | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Mer | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Mar | |HL || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Rah |Moo AL | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

+--------------+|Sat Mnd |Ket |Mer AL | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||GL | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||Asc | |Mar || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Moo HL |Sun Glk |Rah |Jup Ven || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Rah Rah 1971-05-03 Jup 1974-01-13 Sat 1976-06-07 Mer 1979-04-14 Ket 1981-11-01 Ven 1982-11-19 Sun 1985-11-19 Moo 1986-10-14 Mar 1988-04-14 Jup Jup 1989-05-02 Sat 1991-06-20 Mer 1994-01-01 Ket 1996-04-07 Ven 1997-03-14 Sun 1999-11-13 Moo 2000-08-31 Mar 2001-12-31 Rah 2002-12-07 Sat Sat 2005-05-02 Mer 2008-05-05 Ket 2011-01-13 Ven 2012-02-22 Sun 2015-04-23 Moo 2016-04-04 Mar 2017-11-04 Rah 2018-12-13 Jup 2021-10-19 Mer Mer 2024-05-02 Ket 2026-09-28 Ven 2027-09-25 Sun 2030-07-26 Moo 2031-06-02 Mar 2032-10-31 Rah 2033-10-28 Jup 2036-05-17 Sat 2038-08-23 Ket Ket 2041-05-02 Ven 2041-09-28 Sun 2042-11-28 Moo 2043-04-05 Mar 2043-11-04 Rah 2044-04-01 Jup 2045-04-19 Sat 2046-03-26 Mer 2047-05-05 Ven Ven 2048-05-01 Sun 2051-09-01 Moo 2052-08-31 Mar 2054-05-02 Rah 2055-07-02 Jup 2058-07-02 Sat 2061-03-02 Mer 2064-05-01 Ket 2067-03-02 Sun Sun 2068-05-01 Moo 2068-08-19 Mar 2069-02-17 Rah 2069-06-25 Jup 2070-05-20 Sat 2071-03-08 Mer 2072-02-18 Ket 2072-12-25 Ven 2073-05-01 Moo Moo 2074-05-02 Mar 2075-03-02 Rah 2075-10-01 Jup 2077-04-01 Sat 2078-08-01 Mer 2080-03-01 Ket 2081-08-01 Ven 2082-03-02 Sun 2083-10-31 Mar Mar 2084-05-01 Rah 2084-09-27 Jup 2085-10-16 Sat 2086-09-22 Mer 2087-10-31 Ket 2088-10-28 Ven 2089-03-26 Sun 2090-05-26 Moo 2090-10-01

Regards

Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha

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Nimmi Ragavan

varahamihira

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:15 AM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] CHART OF A CHILD

Dear Shailesh,

Could you post some more information regarding the kind of problems the child had at birth? With the birth so close to the border, that may help the list work out what the ascendant should be.

Happy Thai Pongal, everyone!

Best wishes,

Nimmi

-

Visti Larsen

varahamihira

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:09 AM

Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] CHART OF A CHILD

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah!

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Dear Shailesh,

Looking at the chart, i have little doubt about Taurus being the lagna.

In case of Gemini Lagna; Mercury, Sun and Jupiter all being benefics for health, are in lagna protecting the native. Jupiter maybe Badhakesh, but rarely do we see the Badhakesh killing someone. Rahu here, is giving some problems thou.

In case of Taurus Lagna; Saturn becomes Marana Karaka, and can kill. Venus in Lagna protects the native, and lets them grow stronger day by day. The many planets in 2nd are also Marakas remember, but theres a beneficial dominance.

I was also convinced after calculating a special Hora chart, which i believe is for this purpose, but i won't comment on that.

Using Taurus as Lagna, the Lagnamsa should fall in Virgo, who has Jupiter and Moon becoming Marana Karakas for it, showing near death. Venus in 8th can show premature birth.

Usually in case of cesarians, e've been taught that Nodes should associate with lagna. Dunno if the case would be the same with Rahu+Mars in trines.

Those were my thoughts, rather i'd have them corrected before even commenting on longevity.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Shailesh

Monday, January 14, 2002 4:06 PM

[Hare Rama Krishna] CHART OF A CHILD

Dear List,

The attached chart [ also pasted below] belongs to a child who nearly passed away on birth - his survival was a near miracle.

Because of his difficult birth, his family is scared about his survival - and if he survives, his longevity and physical/ celebral development.

Since the birth was thru a ceasarean section, birth-time could be a little inaccurate. [ There was a little confusion about time - 3.55am or 4.05am - the latter is the recorded time.]

I am too novice for doing a proper analysis and, therefore, request the learned jyotishas on this list to kindly give their reading of this chart.

What I did notice is:

- Badhakesh in Lagna

- Starting Vim Dasa of JUP/SAT/MAR - badhakesh(7th lord)/8th lord/ 6th lord

- Combination of JUP & RAHU in Lagna ( negative for fathers longevity as per BHPS...?????)

- otherwise there are several Raj Yogas, etc., in the chart.

Please guide me.

Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha

July 11, 2001Time: 4:05:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 78 E 33' 00"Latitude: 17 N 27' 00"

Lunar Year: VrishaLunar Month: AshadhaTithi: Krishna Panchami (13.94% left)Weekday: TuesdayNakshatra: Poo.Bhaa. (76.21% left)Yoga: SoubhagyaKarana: TaitulaHora Lord: Mars

Sunrise: 5:47:49Sunset: 18:54:02Janma Ghatis: 55.7158

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak

Lagna 0 Ge 37' 07.92" Mrigasira 3 Ge Li -Sun 24 Ge 50' 41.23" Punarvasu 2 Ge Ta AKMoon 23 Aq 10' 20.48" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar AmKMars ® 21 Sc 48' 14.03" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp BKMercury 3 Ge 55' 42.42" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc DKJupiter 5 Ge 40' 30.91" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc GKVenus 11 Ta 51' 35.30" Rohini 1 Ta Ar PKSaturn 16 Ta 13' 02.83" Rohini 2 Ta Ta PiKRahu 11 Ge 42' 03.08" Aardra 2 Ge Cp MKKetu 11 Sg 42' 03.08" Moola 4 Sg Cn -Uranus ® 0 Aq 17' 07.11" Dhanishtha 3 Aq Li -Neptune ® 14 Cp 01' 17.71" Sravanam 2 Cp Ta -Pluto ® 19 Sc 08' 32.74" Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg -Bhava Lagna 28 Ta 15' 16.05" Mrigasira 2 Ta Vi -Hora Lagna 2 Ta 32' 57.97" Krittika 2 Ta Cp -Ghati Lagna 15 Aq 26' 03.72" Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq -Vighati Lagna 19 Cp 51' 32.48" Sravanam 3 Cp Ge -Pranapada Lagna 20 Ta 44' 39.58" Rohini 4 Ta Cn -Sree Lagna 26 Le 16' 21.01" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc -Indu Lagna 23 Aq 10' 20.48" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -Kunda 20 Sc 07' 41.81" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp -Dhooma 8 Sc 10' 41.23" Anuradha 2 Sc Vi -Vyatipata 21 Le 49' 18.77" Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li -Parivesha 21 Aq 49' 18.77" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -Indra Chapa 8 Ta 10' 41.23" Krittika 4 Ta Pi -Upaketu 24 Ta 50' 41.23" Mrigasira 1 Ta Le -Kaala 22 Aq 43' 17.30" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar -Mrityu 13 Ar 15' 30.82" Aswini 4 Ar Cn -Artha Prahara 5 Ta 44' 33.15" Krittika 3 Ta Aq -Yama Ghantaka 26 Ta 01' 27.59" Mrigasira 1 Ta Le -Maandi 5 Cp 38' 43.38" U.Shaa. 3 Cp Aq -Gulika 25 Sg 18' 48.12" Poo.Shaa. 4 Sg Sc -Varnada Lagna 26 Sg 49' 54.11" U.Shaa. 1 Sg Sg -

+--------------+|AL | |Ven Sat |Asc Sun || | |HL |Mer Jup || | | |Rah || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Moo GL | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Mnd | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ket Glk |MarR | | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

+--------------+| |Moo Ven |Sun Sat | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||GL Mnd | |Ket AL || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||MarR Rah | | ||HL | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Mer Jup |Asc | || |Glk | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Jup Jup 1997-09-19 Sat 1999-11-07 Mer 2002-05-21 Ket 2004-08-26 Ven 2005-08-01 Sun 2008-04-01 Moo 2009-01-19 Mar 2010-05-21 Rah 2011-04-27 Sat Sat 2013-09-19 Mer 2016-09-22 Ket 2019-06-02 Ven 2020-07-11 Sun 2023-09-10 Moo 2024-08-22 Mar 2026-03-24 Rah 2027-05-03 Jup 2030-03-08 Mer Mer 2032-09-19 Ket 2035-02-15 Ven 2036-02-13 Sun 2038-12-13 Moo 2039-10-20 Mar 2041-03-20 Rah 2042-03-18 Jup 2044-10-04 Sat 2047-01-10 Ket Ket 2049-09-19 Ven 2050-02-15 Sun 2051-04-17 Moo 2051-08-23 Mar 2052-03-23 Rah 2052-08-19 Jup 2053-09-07 Sat 2054-08-14 Mer 2055-09-22 Ven Ven 2056-09-19 Sun 2060-01-19 Moo 2061-01-18 Mar 2062-09-19 Rah 2063-11-19 Jup 2066-11-19 Sat 2069-07-20 Mer 2072-09-18 Ket 2075-07-20 Sun Sun 2076-09-18 Moo 2077-01-06 Mar 2077-07-08 Rah 2077-11-12 Jup 2078-10-07 Sat 2079-07-26 Mer 2080-07-07 Ket 2081-05-14 Ven 2081-09-19 Moo Moo 2082-09-19 Mar 2083-07-20 Rah 2084-02-18 Jup 2085-08-19 Sat 2086-12-19 Mer 2088-07-19 Ket 2089-12-19 Ven 2090-07-20 Sun 2092-03-20 Mar Mar 2092-09-18 Rah 2093-02-14 Jup 2094-03-05 Sat 2095-02-09 Mer 2096-03-20 Ket 2097-03-17 Ven 2097-08-13 Sun 2098-10-13 Moo 2099-02-18 Rah Rah 2099-09-19 Jup 2102-06-02 Sat 2104-10-26 Mer 2107-09-02 Ket 2110-03-21 Ven 2111-04-09 Sun 2114-04-08 Moo 2115-03-03 Mar 2116-09-01

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January 15, 2002

But Shailesh, I think you have an EXALTED saturn in your ascendant! This child has a saturn just come out of debility

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Shailesh

varahamihira

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:31 PM