GE Narayana Dasa [ & ME Vim-dasa] of my Chart

February 18, 2002

Namaste Guruvar Sanjay ji,

I have been meditating over your recent clarifications and comments on my mails & queries reg. my GE Narayana Dasa [some queries reg Narayana Dasa] and SA & ME Vim-dasa [queries reg Atmakaraka in Parivartana].

At the outset, please allow me to apologise for this rather long mail and for persisting with this line of correspondence.

However, the overlapping of Naryana-dasa of GE and Vim-dasa of ME makes it an important span in my life - as I had mentioned earlier, I advanced from TA to GE Narayana Dasa, on Feb 8, 2002; in Vim-dasa (lagna based), I will complete SA maha-dasa and enter ME maha-dasa in Dec, 2003.

In particular, I have studied my chart in light of your following comments:

Ø Dasa rasi also hosts A5, A7 & A11, along with HL & GL, with rasi lord being 9th from it - does it hold the promise of gain of higher/spiritual knowledge(A5), co-operation/ joint-venture (A7) and (monetary) gains (A11) - along with manifestation of results of HL & GL - through own Karma (rasi lord in 9th from rasi). (but this will be contrary to the next point)

RATH: ACCESS TO MONEY AND POWER DOES NOT PROMISE PERSONAL WEALTH AND POWER. I MAY KNOW THE KING, BUT IF HE IS NOT GOING TO HELP ME, WHAT IS THE USE? REMINDS ME OF KABIR - BADA HUA TO KYA HUA JAISE PEED KHAJUR; PATHIK KO CHHAYA NAHIN DE PHAL LAGE ATI DUR.

Ø Will JU's placement in 12th from Dasa rasi help in spiritual rise

RATH: NO. THIS IS A PERIOD MORE FOCUSED IN MATERAIL SUSTENANCE OF THE FAMILY - KETUNAAM KULASYA UNNATIM.

Ø You said: God is unlikely to spoil you! Mercury would be waiting to do just that - Pamper you with all things and thus "Spoil you". I like the disciplene of Saturn.

You have mentioned: ACCESS TO MONEY AND POWER DOES NOT PROMISE PERSONAL WEALTH AND POWER.

Since the Rasi-lord, ME, casts rasi-drishti on Lagna, and is a maha-yogada, I would think that the ‘fruits’ will accrue to ‘self’.

You have mentioned: THIS IS A PERIOD MORE FOCUSED IN MATERAIL SUSTENANCE OF THE FAMILY - KETUNAAM KULASYA UNNATIM.

Since GE is the most important trine in the dharma Trikona, and is also Mantra-pada is occupied by KE and has argala of JU, I considered it to be indicative of important spiritual growth. Of course, being occupied by GL, HL, A7 & A11 and aspect of another maha-yogada MA, material benefits, power & fame are also indicated, as also A3, A9 & A10 in 5th from it promise aggressive growth in career – aided by maha-yoga karaka SA, who is also dispositor of the Rasi-lord ME.

You said: God is unlikely to spoil you! Mercury would be waiting to do just that - Pamper you with all things and thus "Spoil you". I like the disciplene of Saturn.

As I read it, GE is aspected by A8, both in D1 & D9, and ME is connected to A6, in D1 through aspect and in D9 through conjunction- hence it cannot be a smooth sailing, especially with RA in badhaka sthana, although debilitated. And, ME is 12th from AL in D9.

This association of A6 & A8 combination with GE & ME threatens with several obstacles & ill-health - if true, where does the pampering and spoiling of ME come in?

[if I may add – Vim maha dasa of SA made me do all the things that I never wanted to do - contrary to the discipline that SA should have given]

It is very evident that my reasoning is flawed - since I am not able to reconcile my conclusions with yours.

I give my reasoning below – please point out my errors and omissions which lead me to incorrect conclusions.

In D-1, GE is 9H with its 9L me in 5H, and 5L SA is exalted in Lagna – thus the Dharma Trikona is totally inter-connected and GE is the most important house in this chain.

GE has 30 SAV points and its lord ME 54.

Further, GE is also Mantra pada and deb. KE occupies GE – both indicating spiritual gains.

OTOH, GE in 6th from AL and Paka-lagna and 7th from Varnada Lagna.

On materialistic side, GE is my GL & HL, and also Dara-pada and Labha-pada – all indicators of materialistic gains.

Furthermore, the rasi-lord, ME, casts rasi-dristi on Lagna – thus making it the stongest yogada of the chart.

If we consider aspects, MA casts 8th aspect on GE, whereas RA & Varnada Lagna in SG and Mrityu-pada in VI cast Rasi-dristi. MA is 2L & 7L, posited in 2H – SC and is a Kevala-yogada [rasi aspect on MO & lagna lord VE and 8th aspect on HL & GL], but is itself subject to kartari of two natural malefics, SA in 1H & RA in 3H – but also gets direct aspect of JU (vipareet Raj-yoga karaka) from 8H, and rasi aspect of SU, VE & MO.

WRT agralas, since KE occupies GE, agralas will be considered anti-clockwise. Accordingly, GE has unobstructed 2nd argala from JU and 4th argala from PI/Sri Lagna. 11th argala of LE, occupied by Glk & Mnd is obstructed by MO and 5th argala of rasi-lord ME is obstructed by its dispositor, exalted SA.

In D-9, GE in 7H occupied again by deb. KE (vargottama) along with GL, and is 5th from AL, 12th from Paka Lagna.

GE has 34 SAV points and its lord ME 54.

However, on the one hand, its rasi-lord is placed in CP & A6, in 8th from it. On the other hand, ME is aspected by Maha-yogada JU and Sri Lagna.

It is aspected by deb. VE (maha-yogada) from VI, and Mantar-pada, HL & Mnd from SG and Dara-pada & Kashta-pada from PI.

WRT agralas, (anti-clockwise), 2nd argala from exalted MO is obstructed by exalted JU, 4th argala from PI/A2 & A8 is obstructed by deb. Maha-yogada VE, 11th argala of LE, occupied by SU, MA, A7 & A11 is unobstructed and 5th argala of SA is again un-obstructed.

Please forgive my longish mail and oblige me with an early response.

With sincere regards,

Shailesh