Enemy of Karaka Paralysis for 30 yrs: 1st SJVC meeting at Bombay

[Guest guest]

Dear Gurudev

 

Co-incidentally, this weekend's front page newspaper article was on the

ban of SMS in Bombay for a day, by the police (to stop

rumour-contagion). So even the authorities listen to you! (who else can

I confidently joke with, except our own Guru).

 

Some of your points understood. However, this " enemy of karaka " is what

I picked up from CoVA. ONLY from CoVA actually. Let me enunciate what I

understood:

 

Every house has many significators. In my notes, I have only Jp

(aarghhh!), Jupiter, as the significator for the 11th, as representing

both gain/ growth & elder sibling. Now, if natural enemies of Jupiter

are posted there, such as Rahu, a bitter enemy (Saturn is neutral, and

comes under the influence of Jupiter easily if Jupiter is strong &

benign), I thought it WOULD create havoc there. So would Mercury &

Venus, unless they were by lordship or other association with Jupiter,

be favourable in the 11th.

 

IGNORING what I have understood, with my limited knowledge, how does

one use this concept (of friend/ enemy of the karaka of the house where

a planet is placed), at all.

 

This concept was grinded so basically in me after reading CoVA, that I

hope you will find the time to dispel this BASIC darkness.

 

I have understood about 12th lord viprit in 8, & strong as exalted.

 

Pranams

 

Nandan

 

--- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote: >

> om gurave namah

> ------------------------

> Dear Nandan

> I am delighted to read about your meeting and discussions. I just

> cannot

> understand the SMS. What is MC - is it the midheaven? And what about

> ST.

> Never heard of it.

> In this context I must quote the great work Krishneeyam where the

> author Sri

> Krishna has expicitly mentioned that not even a single word used in

> that

> entire work is from outside or that which is not standard terminology

> in

> Jyotish. You must learn to stick to the accped standards. This is

> crucial.

> The 12th Lord is a very misunderstood planet. You have misunderstood

> it. In

> exaltation for Virgo it can cure any disease. Worship of Shiva is the

> key

> out here as it is in the ninth from its own sign. (Again you use

> L12). Next

> time I see such abbreviations, I will not respond. Ensure that you

> chew well

> so that the digestion is easier.

> What is enemy Karak house? I guess I have to start learning a lot

> from you.

> Let us say Jupiter is the Karaka of the 11th house. Would the planets

> Rahu,

> Saturn etc who are inimical to Jupiter give bad results out here?

> What am I

> missing out in your question?

> With best wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

> Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm

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> -

> Nandan Chakraborty

> varahamihira

> Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:39 PM

> [Hare Rama Krishna] Paralysis for 30 yrs: 1st SJVC meeting

> at

> Bombay

>

>

> Dear Gurus & friends

>

> 3 of us met this Sunday. Much time was spent in getting to know each

> other, as it was the most important thing to do at the 1st meeting.

> We

> discussed Praveen's mother's chart, who has been paralysed for the

> last

> 30 yrs! St & Mc, significators of paralysis, played a role as is

> obvious. This is palpable in both d-1 & d-6.

>

> BUT: I am still struggling to understand the significance of the Sun,

> a

> natural malefic (NM), a functional malefic (FM) as L12, & exalted in

> a

> dustan 8. I am just not clear on the basics. Cd someone check the

> following:

>

> As an NM & FM exalted in dustan:

> a) wrt its NATURAL significations (Sn= authority, etc) AND its

> FUNCTIONAL SIGNIFICATIONS (L12= travel, bed-pleasures, whatever):

> BOTH

> are weakened, tho not as much, as it is also exalted. Or the

> opposite:

> ie strengthened as exalted, tho not as much as it should be, as it is

> in dustan.

>

> b) wrt the significations of 8 (research, inheritance, health), these

> are afflicted ( & exaltation has no great role to play in this), as Sn

> is NM & FM, more so as Sn is in its enemy karaka house (8= St).

>

> Still delving on the chart on the paralysis issue. But cd someone

> please explain to me, the strength & disposition of Sn, 1st of all.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Nandan

>

> --- Praveen Kumar <prani_praveen wrote: > Dear Nandan,

> > Hi ! how are you ? My mother's birth details are as under:

> > 10/05/1942 (ddmmyy); 15:25 ; Jaipur (Rajasthan)= 75e49, 26n55.

> > I think this will suffice. I had further considered your horoscope.

> I

> > also find the comments of guruji agreeable. I shall discuss the

> issue

> with

> > you

> > further.

> > Regards.

> > Praveen Kumar

 

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om gurave namah------------------------Dear Nandan

Jupiter as Karaka for 11th from Lagna represents elder brothers and 11th from AL is for income. Now what happens if an enemy of the Karaka is in the 11th house?

I will twist this for another house so that you can get it better. Lets say saturn is the Karaka for the 8th house. Is the placement of Moon in this house good? No it is not as the 8th is a dusthana and the placement of the Moon out here will damage the Moon and the health will suffer.

Now come to the 7th house. venus is Karaka. In a prasna chart you find Saturn out here, what do you predict..immediate marriage i.e. karaka's friend does the job. Look at two other planets out here. Mercury the cause of denility of Venus and Mars out here ..terrible. Can cause homosexuality in the first case and kill spouse in the other case. Fighting in the bedroom with spouse i its better mood and rape in its ferocious mood can be some of the nice things we have to talk about Mars in the 7th house.

Now get back to the 11th. This is not a kendra and instead a trika. An evil house. So, if Jupiters dire enemy Rahu Maharaj is here, he gets the beating of his life and is forced to dole out the money he has grabbed through various means..sharing spoils and loot, gains from criminals etc are some of the indications. Is this good? Judge for yourself. Saturn is really not an enemy of Jupiter and will give money from servants, labor or sometimes some negative things as well. These planets in the 11th house together will surely kill the elder brother and is Saturn alone is placed, then the brother shall die later in the youth or middle age of the native. Is this good? Then what is good about Saturn or Rahu in the 11th from Lagna/AL?With best wishesSanjay Rath

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- Nandan Chakraborty

varahamihira

Monday, March 18, 2002 11:01 AM

Enemy of Karaka Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Paralysis for 30 yrs: 1st SJVC meeting at Bombay

Dear GurudevCo-incidentally, this weekend's front page newspaper article was on theban of SMS in Bombay for a day, by the police (to stoprumour-contagion). So even the authorities listen to you! (who else canI confidently joke with, except our own Guru).Some of your points understood. However, this "enemy of karaka" is whatI picked up from CoVA. ONLY from CoVA actually. Let me enunciate what Iunderstood: Every house has many significators. In my notes, I have only Jp(aarghhh!), Jupiter, as the significator for the 11th, as representingboth gain/ growth & elder sibling. Now, if natural enemies of Jupiterare posted there, such as Rahu, a bitter enemy (Saturn is neutral, andcomes under the influence of Jupiter easily if Jupiter is strong & benign), I thought it WOULD create havoc there. So would Mercury & Venus, unless they were by lordship or other association with Jupiter,be favourable in the 11th.IGNORING what I have understood, with my limited knowledge, how doesone use this concept (of friend/ enemy of the karaka of the house wherea planet is placed), at all. This concept was grinded so basically in me after reading CoVA, that Ihope you will find the time to dispel this BASIC darkness.I have understood about 12th lord viprit in 8, & strong as exalted.PranamsNandan--- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote: > > om gurave namah> ------------------------> Dear Nandan> I am delighted to read about your meeting and discussions. I just> cannot> understand the SMS. What is MC - is it the midheaven? And what about> ST.> Never heard of it.> In this context I must quote the great work Krishneeyam where the> author Sri> Krishna has expicitly mentioned that not even a single word used in> that> entire work is from outside or that which is not standard terminology> in> Jyotish. You must learn to stick to the accped standards. This is> crucial.> The 12th Lord is a very misunderstood planet. You have misunderstood> it. In> exaltation for Virgo it can cure any disease. Worship of Shiva is the> key> out here as it is in the ninth from its own sign. (Again you use> L12). Next> time I see such abbreviations, I will not respond. Ensure that you> chew well> so that the digestion is easier.> What is enemy Karak house? I guess I have to start learning a lot> from you.> Let us say Jupiter is the Karaka of the 11th house. Would the planets> Rahu,> Saturn etc who are inimical to Jupiter give bad results out here?> What am I> missing out in your question?> With best wishes> Sanjay Rath> Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm> Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/> SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/> -> Nandan Chakraborty> varahamihira > Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:39 PM> [Hare Rama Krishna] Paralysis for 30 yrs: 1st SJVC meeting> at> Bombay> > > Dear Gurus & friends> > 3 of us met this Sunday. Much time was spent in getting to know each> other, as it was the most important thing to do at the 1st meeting.> We> discussed Praveen's mother's chart, who has been paralysed for the> last> 30 yrs! St & Mc, significators of paralysis, played a role as is> obvious. This is palpable in both d-1 & d-6.> > BUT: I am still struggling to understand the significance of the Sun,> a> natural malefic (NM), a functional malefic (FM) as L12, & exalted in> a> dustan 8. I am just not clear on the basics. Cd someone check the> following:> > As an NM & FM exalted in dustan:> a) wrt its NATURAL significations (Sn= authority, etc) AND its> FUNCTIONAL SIGNIFICATIONS (L12= travel, bed-pleasures, whatever):> BOTH> are weakened, tho not as much, as it is also exalted. Or the> opposite:> ie strengthened as exalted, tho not as much as it should be, as it is> in dustan.> > b) wrt the significations of 8 (research, inheritance, health), these> are afflicted ( & exaltation has no great role to play in this), as Sn> is NM & FM, more so as Sn is in its enemy karaka house (8= St).> > Still delving on the chart on the paralysis issue. But cd someone> please explain to me, the strength & disposition of Sn, 1st of all.> > Best wishes> > Nandan> > --- Praveen Kumar <prani_praveen wrote: > Dear Nandan,> > Hi ! how are you ? My mother's birth details are as under:> > 10/05/1942 (ddmmyy); 15:25 ; Jaipur (Rajasthan)= 75e49, 26n55.> > I think this will suffice. I had further considered your horoscope.> I> > also find the comments of guruji agreeable. I shall discuss the> issue> with> > you> > further.> > Regards.> > Praveen Kumar______________________> Looking for a job? Visit India Careers> Visit http://in.careers.> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Gurudev

 

After reading your lucid e-mail I thought I understood. Then today, I

referenced CoVA again :

 

a)Merc-Moon: pg 235: Merc (X) affects Moon (Y) badly as Y is X's enemy.

 

b) Moon-Ven: (Ven: Moon= enemy, Moon: Ven= neutral): pg 167: Ve in 5=

being 2 from 4= bad for mother (4).

c) Merc-Mars: (Mars: Merc= enemy, Merc: Mars= neutral): Mars conjoin

2nd lord in 11 (also then, aspects 2)= wealth, BUT speak late in

childhood (as Merc= karak of 2 for speech, & is natural enemy of Mars).

 

 

So, when indeed to use this concept of " planet X's natural relation to

the karak of the house it occupies " , is again blurring in my mind.

Solai Guru did give me an important hint, that it is to do with

karakatwa & not karak. Ihhought I understood, then. But again, it is

blurring in my mind today.

 

I think I shall use the red telefone today

 

Pranams

 

Nandan

 

--- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote: >

> om gurave namah

> ------------------------

> Dear Nandan

> Jupiter as Karaka for 11th from Lagna represents elder brothers and

> 11th

> from AL is for income. Now what happens if an enemy of the Karaka is

> in the

> 11th house?

> I will twist this for another house so that you can get it better.

> Lets say

> saturn is the Karaka for the 8th house. Is the placement of Moon in

> this

> house good? No it is not as the 8th is a dusthana and the placement

> of the

> Moon out here will damage the Moon and the health will suffer.

> Now come to the 7th house. venus is Karaka. In a prasna chart you

> find

> Saturn out here, what do you predict..immediate marriage i.e.

> karaka's

> friend does the job. Look at two other planets out here. Mercury the

> cause

> of denility of Venus and Mars out here ..terrible. Can cause

> homosexuality

> in the first case and kill spouse in the other case. Fighting in the

> bedroom

> with spouse i its better mood and rape in its ferocious mood can be

> some of

> the nice things we have to talk about Mars in the 7th house.

> Now get back to the 11th. This is not a kendra and instead a trika.

> An evil

> house. So, if Jupiters dire enemy Rahu Maharaj is here, he gets the

> beating

> of his life and is forced to dole out the money he has grabbed

> through

> various means..sharing spoils and loot, gains from criminals etc are

> some of

> the indications. Is this good? Judge for yourself. Saturn is really

> not an

> enemy of Jupiter and will give money from servants, labor or

> sometimes some

> negative things as well. These planets in the 11th house together

> will

> surely kill the elder brother and is Saturn alone is placed, then the

> brother shall die later in the youth or middle age of the native. Is

> this

> good? Then what is good about Saturn or Rahu in the 11th from

> Lagna/AL?

> With best wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

> Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm

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> -

> Nandan Chakraborty

> varahamihira

> Monday, March 18, 2002 11:01 AM

> Enemy of Karaka Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Paralysis for 30

> yrs: 1st

> SJVC meeting at Bombay

>

>

> Dear Gurudev

>

> Co-incidentally, this weekend's front page newspaper article was on

> the

> ban of SMS in Bombay for a day, by the police (to stop

> rumour-contagion). So even the authorities listen to you! (who else

> can

> I confidently joke with, except our own Guru).

>

> Some of your points understood. However, this " enemy of karaka " is

> what

> I picked up from CoVA. ONLY from CoVA actually. Let me enunciate what

> I

> understood:

>

> Every house has many significators. In my notes, I have only Jp

> (aarghhh!), Jupiter, as the significator for the 11th, as

> representing

> both gain/ growth & elder sibling. Now, if natural enemies of Jupiter

> are posted there, such as Rahu, a bitter enemy (Saturn is neutral,

> and

> comes under the influence of Jupiter easily if Jupiter is strong &

> benign), I thought it WOULD create havoc there. So would Mercury &

> Venus, unless they were by lordship or other association with

> Jupiter,

> be favourable in the 11th.

>

> IGNORING what I have understood, with my limited knowledge, how does

> one use this concept (of friend/ enemy of the karaka of the house

> where

> a planet is placed), at all.

>

> This concept was grinded so basically in me after reading CoVA, that

> I

> hope you will find the time to dispel this BASIC darkness.

>

> I have understood about 12th lord viprit in 8, & strong as exalted.

>

> Pranams

>

> Nandan

>

> --- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote: >

> > om gurave namah

> > ------------------------

> > Dear Nandan

> > I am delighted to read about your meeting and discussions. I just

> > cannot

> > understand the SMS. What is MC - is it the midheaven? And what

> about

> > ST.

> > Never heard of it.

> > In this context I must quote the great work Krishneeyam where the

> > author Sri

> > Krishna has expicitly mentioned that not even a single word used in

> > that

> > entire work is from outside or that which is not standard

> terminology

> > in

> > Jyotish. You must learn to stick to the accped standards. This is

> > crucial.

> > The 12th Lord is a very misunderstood planet. You have

> misunderstood

> > it. In

> > exaltation for Virgo it can cure any disease. Worship of Shiva is

> the

> > key

> > out here as it is in the ninth from its own sign. (Again you use

> > L12). Next

> > time I see such abbreviations, I will not respond. Ensure that you

> > chew well

> > so that the digestion is easier.

> > What is enemy Karak house? I guess I have to start learning a lot

> > from you.

> > Let us say Jupiter is the Karaka of the 11th house. Would the

> planets

> > Rahu,

> > Saturn etc who are inimical to Jupiter give bad results out here?

> > What am I

> > missing out in your question?

> > With best wishes

> > Sanjay Rath

> > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

> > Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm

> > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/

> > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/

> > -

> > Nandan Chakraborty

> > varahamihira

> > Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:39 PM

> > [Hare Rama Krishna] Paralysis for 30 yrs: 1st SJVC meeting

> > at

> > Bombay

> >

> >

> > Dear Gurus & friends

> >

> > 3 of us met this Sunday. Much time was spent in getting to know

> each

> > other, as it was the most important thing to do at the 1st meeting.

> > We

> > discussed Praveen's mother's chart, who has been paralysed for the

> > last

> > 30 yrs! St & Mc, significators of paralysis, played a role as is

> > obvious. This is palpable in both d-1 & d-6.

> >

> > BUT: I am still struggling to understand the significance of the

> Sun,

> > a

> > natural malefic (NM), a functional malefic (FM) as L12, & exalted

> in

> > a

> > dustan 8. I am just not clear on the basics. Cd someone check the

> > following:

> >

> > As an NM & FM exalted in dustan:

> > a) wrt its NATURAL significations (Sn= authority, etc) AND its

> > FUNCTIONAL SIGNIFICATIONS (L12= travel, bed-pleasures, whatever):

> > BOTH

> > are weakened, tho not as much, as it is also exalted. Or the

> > opposite:

> > ie strengthened as exalted, tho not as much as it should be, as it

> is

> > in dustan.

> >

> > b) wrt the significations of 8 (research, inheritance, health),

> these

> > are afflicted ( & exaltation has no great role to play in this), as

> Sn

> > is NM & FM, more so as Sn is in its enemy karaka house (8= St).

> >

> > Still delving on the chart on the paralysis issue. But cd someone

> > please explain to me, the strength & disposition of Sn, 1st of all.

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Nandan

> >

>

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om gurave namah------------------------Dear Nandan

OK I am clarifying further..With best wishesSanjay RathWeb: http://sanjayrath.tripod.comServices: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htmJyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/

- Nandan Chakraborty

varahamihira

Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:42 PM

Re: Enemy of Karaka Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Paralysis for 30 yrs: 1st SJVC meeting at Bombay

 

Dear GurudevAfter reading your lucid e-mail I thought I understood. Then today, Ireferenced CoVA again : a)Merc-Moon: pg 235: Merc (X) affects Moon (Y) badly as Y is X's enemy.RATH: SMS AGAIN. IS Y X'S ENEMY OR VICE VERSA? WHAT IS THE CASE ABOUT?

b) Moon-Ven: (Ven: Moon= enemy, Moon: Ven= neutral): pg 167: Ve in 5=being 2 from 4= bad for mother (4).

RIGHT..YOU GOT IT RIGHT. VEN IS BAD FOR MOTHER NO DOUBT. SHE CAN HAVE DISEASE.

c) Merc-Mars: (Mars: Merc= enemy, Merc: Mars= neutral): Mars conjoin2nd lord in 11 (also then, aspects 2)= wealth, BUT speak late inchildhood (as Merc= karak of 2 for speech, & is natural enemy of Mars).So, when indeed to use this concept of "planet X's natural relation tothe karak of the house it occupies", is again blurring in my mind.Solai Guru did give me an important hint, that it is to do withkarakatwa & not karak. Ihhought I understood, then. But again, it isblurring in my mind today.

LOOK AT SAMBANDHA FROM ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW.THERE ARE UMPTEEN POSSIBILITIES. WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW IS WHAT IS THE FIRST REACTION. MERCURY AND MARS GET INTO A DUEL OF AHIMSA & HIMSA, JUP & RAHU GET INTO ANOTHER DUEL OF SAT & ASAT..AND SO ON. KNOW THE BASICS BETTER AND ANALYSE THE CHART FOR WHAT IS REALLY GOOD. IN THE CASES YOU HAVE CITED, VENUS IS BAD FOR MOTHER AL RIGHT, BUT THEN WE CAN ALSO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT IS BAD. LIKE I SAID RAHU IN THE 11TH IS BAD FOR ELDER CO-BORN. HERE THE KARAKA FOR THE 11TH IS JUPITER, NOW RAHU IS 12 IS NOT GOING TO BECOME FRIENDLY TO JUPITER AND WILL STILL HAVE PAPARGALA ON THE 11TH HOUSE ATTEMPTING TO DAMAGE ELDER CO-BORN, BUT THEN THIS CANNOT BE AS BAD AS THE KARAKA FOR THE 12TH HOUSE IS SATURN. THIS IS A RELATIVELY BETTER POSITION THAN THE 11TH ITSELF.

ALSO BEAR IN MIND THE SPECIFIC KARAKATWA THAT WE SPEAK OF. THE DAMAGE IS TO THE KARAKATWA AS SOLAI HAS ALREADY EXPLAINED TO YOU.I think I shall use the red telefone todayPranamsNandan--- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote: > > om gurave namah> ------------------------> Dear Nandan> Jupiter as Karaka for 11th from Lagna represents elder brothers and> 11th> from AL is for income. Now what happens if an enemy of the Karaka is> in the> 11th house?> I will twist this for another house so that you can get it better.> Lets say> saturn is the Karaka for the 8th house. Is the placement of Moon in> this> house good? No it is not as the 8th is a dusthana and the placement> of the> Moon out here will damage the Moon and the health will suffer.> Now come to the 7th house. venus is Karaka. In a prasna chart you> find> Saturn out here, what do you predict..immediate marriage i.e.> karaka's> friend does the job. Look at two other planets out here. Mercury the> cause> of denility of Venus and Mars out here ..terrible. Can cause> homosexuality> in the first case and kill spouse in the other case. Fighting in the> bedroom> with spouse i its better mood and rape in its ferocious mood can be> some of> the nice things we have to talk about Mars in the 7th house.> Now get back to the 11th. This is not a kendra and instead a trika.> An evil> house. So, if Jupiters dire enemy Rahu Maharaj is here, he gets the> beating> of his life and is forced to dole out the money he has grabbed> through> various means..sharing spoils and loot, gains from criminals etc are> some of> the indications. Is this good? Judge for yourself. Saturn is really> not an> enemy of Jupiter and will give money from servants, labor or> sometimes some> negative things as well. These planets in the 11th house together> will> surely kill the elder brother and is Saturn alone is placed, then the> brother shall die later in the youth or middle age of the native. Is> this> good? Then what is good about Saturn or Rahu in the 11th from> Lagna/AL?> With best wishes> Sanjay Rath> Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm> Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/> SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/> -> Nandan Chakraborty> varahamihira > Monday, March 18, 2002 11:01 AM> Enemy of Karaka Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Paralysis for 30> yrs: 1st> SJVC meeting at Bombay> > > Dear Gurudev> > Co-incidentally, this weekend's front page newspaper article was on> the> ban of SMS in Bombay for a day, by the police (to stop> rumour-contagion). So even the authorities listen to you! (who else> can> I confidently joke with, except our own Guru).> > Some of your points understood. However, this "enemy of karaka" is> what> I picked up from CoVA. ONLY from CoVA actually. Let me enunciate what> I> understood:> > Every house has many significators. In my notes, I have only Jp> (aarghhh!), Jupiter, as the significator for the 11th, as> representing> both gain/ growth & elder sibling. Now, if natural enemies of Jupiter> are posted there, such as Rahu, a bitter enemy (Saturn is neutral,> and> comes under the influence of Jupiter easily if Jupiter is strong & > benign), I thought it WOULD create havoc there. So would Mercury & > Venus, unless they were by lordship or other association with> Jupiter,> be favourable in the 11th.> > IGNORING what I have understood, with my limited knowledge, how does> one use this concept (of friend/ enemy of the karaka of the house> where> a planet is placed), at all.> > This concept was grinded so basically in me after reading CoVA, that> I> hope you will find the time to dispel this BASIC darkness.> > I have understood about 12th lord viprit in 8, & strong as exalted.> > Pranams> > Nandan> > --- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote: >> > om gurave namah> > ------------------------> > Dear Nandan> > I am delighted to read about your meeting and discussions. I just> > cannot> > understand the SMS. What is MC - is it the midheaven? And what> about> > ST.> > Never heard of it.> > In this context I must quote the great work Krishneeyam where the> > author Sri> > Krishna has expicitly mentioned that not even a single word used in> > that> > entire work is from outside or that which is not standard> terminology> > in> > Jyotish. You must learn to stick to the accped standards. This is> > crucial.> > The 12th Lord is a very misunderstood planet. You have> misunderstood> > it. In> > exaltation for Virgo it can cure any disease. Worship of Shiva is> the> > key> > out here as it is in the ninth from its own sign. (Again you use> > L12). Next> > time I see such abbreviations, I will not respond. Ensure that you> > chew well> > so that the digestion is easier.> > What is enemy Karak house? I guess I have to start learning a lot> > from you.> > Let us say Jupiter is the Karaka of the 11th house. Would the> planets> > Rahu,> > Saturn etc who are inimical to Jupiter give bad results out here?> > What am I> > missing out in your question?> > With best wishes> > Sanjay Rath> > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm> > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/> > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/> > -> > Nandan Chakraborty> > varahamihira > > Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:39 PM> > [Hare Rama Krishna] Paralysis for 30 yrs: 1st SJVC meeting> > at> > Bombay> >> >> > Dear Gurus & friends> >> > 3 of us met this Sunday. Much time was spent in getting to know> each> > other, as it was the most important thing to do at the 1st meeting.> > We> > discussed Praveen's mother's chart, who has been paralysed for the> > last> > 30 yrs! St & Mc, significators of paralysis, played a role as is> > obvious. This is palpable in both d-1 & d-6.> >> > BUT: I am still struggling to understand the significance of the> Sun,> > a> > natural malefic (NM), a functional malefic (FM) as L12, & exalted> in> > a> > dustan 8. I am just not clear on the basics. Cd someone check the> > following:> >> > As an NM & FM exalted in dustan:> > a) wrt its NATURAL significations (Sn= authority, etc) AND its> > FUNCTIONAL SIGNIFICATIONS (L12= travel, bed-pleasures, whatever):> > BOTH> > are weakened, tho not as much, as it is also exalted. Or the> > opposite:> > ie strengthened as exalted, tho not as much as it should be, as it> is> > in dustan.> >> > b) wrt the significations of 8 (research, inheritance, health),> these> > are afflicted ( & exaltation has no great role to play in this), as> Sn> > is NM & FM, more so as Sn is in its enemy karaka house (8= St).> >> > Still delving on the chart on the paralysis issue. But cd someone> > please explain to me, the strength & disposition of Sn, 1st of all.> >> > Best wishes> >> > Nandan> >> === message truncated === ______________________For live cricket scores download Score Trackerat: http://in.sports./cricket/tracker.htmlOM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraFiles: varahamihiravarahamihira/database