Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 OM Namo Narayanaya, Dear Visti and Gurus, I feel the best way to clear this is 3 kendras occupied by malefic gives Sarpa yoga. If 3 malefic in one Kendra, do you think still the yoga rises ? Just make the chart and make one of the fixed sign as lagna today. Say Scorpio. 7th is occupied by Rahu,Saturn and Mars. I think this is not the definition, but if 3 kendras occupied by malefic gives this. thanks, if you could clear this. Karu > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > -------------------------- > Dear Dasgupta, > 3 malefics in Kendra give Sarpa Yoga. If there are benefics in Kendra they > break this.. also check Paka Lagna and its lord, to see the persons actions > and the results of the same respectively. > > Sun isn't a malefic for this yoga. > > You may not have 3 malefics in Kendra, but yet the slight effects of Sarpa > yoga will be there. > > Exalted Rahu will however mitigate the evil, and focus more on intellectual > persuits. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > - > " j.k. dasgupta " <dga > <sjvc > > Friday, May 03, 2002 8:31 AM > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY > > > > dear doc, > > > > i think it is not correct. > > > > when KSY matures, the suffering makes the person materialistic but when > KAY > > matures, the person becomes more spiritual. > > > > but that also most probably depends on which planet is stronger. i have > KAY > > and it seems it has matured about 2-3 years ago. my rahu is exaulted in > 4H. > > i feel that i have become more matured, more materialistic and practical > now > > than before. > > > > regards > > > > dasgupta > > > > > > - > > " Dr.D.Banerjee " <drdilip > > <sjvc > > > Friday, May 03, 2002 8:22 PM > > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > ----------------------------- > > > Dear Valerie > > > Namaste > > > > > > Both kalasarpa yoga (KSY) and Kala amrita Yoga ( KAY) brings in > > tremendous > > > sufferings in the life of a person who have anyone of these yogas in his > > > chart. The essential difference is in the outcome of these sufferings. > In > > > KSY, the sufferings make a person a devil one and criminal tendencies > in > > > him crop up. His nature becomes destructive. On the other hand , in KAY > > the > > > sufferings make him a humble being , and transform him into a spiritual > > and > > > saintly > > > person. > > > > > > Regards > > > Dr. Banerjee > > > ---- Original Message ----- > > > " ÷ÁÌÅÒÉÑ ìÉ×ÉÎÁ " <livina > > > <sjvc > > > > Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:09 AM > > > Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.D.Banerjee > > > > > > > > > Put your finger on Ketu, then move it zodiacally upto Rahu in the > rasi > > > chart; > > > > if all the planets are situated between Ketu and Rahu , then Kalasarpa > > > yoga is > > > > formed. > > > > > > > > > Put your finger on Rahu, then move it zodiacally upto Ketu in the > rasi > > > chart; > > > > if all the planets are situated between Rahu and ketu, then Kala > amrita > > > yoga is > > > > formed. > > > > > > > > Now I understand how to recognize them. But what is the essential > > > difference > > > > between these two yogas ? > > > > > > > > Valerie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 Dear Karu & List, There is difference of opinion reg. Sarpa Yoga. This is what I had dug-out for KSY assignment. BHPS: If 3 Kendras are occupied by benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while malefics so placed will cause Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas, respectively, produce benefic and malefic results. [One born in Sarpa Yog will be crooked, cruel, poor, miserable and will depend on others for food and drinks.] HORASARA: If all the benefics be in Kendr Bhavas, Mala Yog is formed. In a like position malefics cause Sarpa Yog. [One born in Sarpa Yog will talk too much and will leave his paternal place. He will be a source of trouble to others and derive pleasure thereby. He will be short lived.] SARAVALI: Malefics in all Angles produce Sarpa Yoga. These two are Dala Yogas. Dr BV Raman has described another similar sounding yoga, Sarpa-pasa yoga, which is caused by affliction to the fifth house – significator of progeny – by two or extreme malefics, RA, SA, MA, etc and leads to loss/ denial of children. The basic consideration appears to be that Kendar's should be predominantly under Malefic influence, without Benefic influence to counteract the same. This is my understanding - hope it stand scrutiny of the Gurus. Best wishes Shailesh - karu varahamihira Sunday, May 05, 2002 2:56 AM [Hare Rama Krishna] Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY OM Namo Narayanaya,Dear Visti and Gurus,I feel the best way to clear this is 3 kendras occupied by malefic givesSarpa yoga.If 3 malefic in one Kendra, do you think still the yoga rises ?Just make the chart and make one of the fixed sign as lagna today. SayScorpio. 7th is occupied by Rahu,Saturn and Mars. I think this is not thedefinition, but if 3 kendras occupied by malefic gives this.thanks, if you could clear this.Karu> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> --------------------------> Dear Dasgupta,> 3 malefics in Kendra give Sarpa Yoga. If there are benefics in Kendra they> break this.. also check Paka Lagna and its lord, to see the personsactions> and the results of the same respectively.>> Sun isn't a malefic for this yoga.>> You may not have 3 malefics in Kendra, but yet the slight effects of Sarpa> yoga will be there.>> Exalted Rahu will however mitigate the evil, and focus more onintellectual> persuits.>> Best wishes, Visti.>> -> "j.k. dasgupta" <dga> <sjvc >> Friday, May 03, 2002 8:31 AM> Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY>>> > dear doc,> >> > i think it is not correct.> >> > when KSY matures, the suffering makes the person materialistic but when> KAY> > matures, the person becomes more spiritual.> >> > but that also most probably depends on which planet is stronger. i have> KAY> > and it seems it has matured about 2-3 years ago. my rahu is exaulted in> 4H.> > i feel that i have become more matured, more materialistic and practical> now> > than before.> >> > regards> >> > dasgupta> >> >> > -> > "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip> > <sjvc >> > Friday, May 03, 2002 8:22 PM> > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> >> >> > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > -----------------------------> > > Dear Valerie> > > Namaste> > >> > > Both kalasarpa yoga (KSY) and Kala amrita Yoga ( KAY) brings in> > tremendous> > > sufferings in the life of a person who have anyone of these yogas inhis> > > chart. The essential difference is in the outcome of these sufferings.> In> > > KSY, the sufferings make a person a devil one and criminal tendencies> in> > > him crop up. His nature becomes destructive. On the other hand , inKAY> > the> > > sufferings make him a humble being , and transform him into aspiritual> > and> > > saintly> > > person.> > >> > > Regards> > > Dr. Banerjee> > > ---- Original Message -----> > > "÷ÁÌÅÒÉÑ ìÉ×ÉÎÁ" <livina> > > <sjvc >> > > Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:09 AM> > > Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> > >> > >> > > > Dear Dr.D.Banerjee> > > >> > > > > Put your finger on Ketu, then move it zodiacally upto Rahu in the> rasi> > > chart;> > > > if all the planets are situated between Ketu and Rahu , thenKalasarpa> > > yoga is> > > > formed.> > > >> > > > > Put your finger on Rahu, then move it zodiacally upto Ketu in the> rasi> > > chart;> > > > if all the planets are situated between Rahu and ketu, then Kala> amrita> > > yoga is> > > > formed.> > > >> > > > Now I understand how to recognize them. But what is the essential> > > difference> > > > between these two yogas ?> > > >> > > > Valerie> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 Hare Rama Krishna ------ Dear Karu, Don't you remember the lessons on Varahamihira? 3 Malefics in Kendra to lagna, no matter Kendra gives rise to Sarpa Yoga. The 4 Kendras represent the base of activity for Dharma(1), Moksha(4), Kaama(7) and Artha(10). The 4 postures associated with thes are; Standing, Sleeping, Dancing and Crawling.. The place where the Sarpa is, will influence the persons posture. I.e. malefics in 4th will give unhappiness.. and if your not happy, then you cannot attain moksha.. hence bad sleep as well. In other words, the person is surrounded by poison. Check the charts of criminals for such yogas, note that the Paka Lagna and its lord is important to see where the person actually puts their activity.. i.e. are they attributing to the Sarpa or trying to avoid it? Best wishes, Visti. - " karu " <heen <varahamihira > Saturday, May 04, 2002 11:26 PM [Hare Rama Krishna] Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY > > > OM Namo Narayanaya, > Dear Visti and Gurus, > > I feel the best way to clear this is 3 kendras occupied by malefic gives > Sarpa yoga. > If 3 malefic in one Kendra, do you think still the yoga rises ? > > Just make the chart and make one of the fixed sign as lagna today. Say > Scorpio. 7th is occupied by Rahu,Saturn and Mars. I think this is not the > definition, but if 3 kendras occupied by malefic gives this. > > thanks, if you could clear this. > Karu > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > -------------------------- > > Dear Dasgupta, > > 3 malefics in Kendra give Sarpa Yoga. If there are benefics in Kendra they > > break this.. also check Paka Lagna and its lord, to see the persons > actions > > and the results of the same respectively. > > > > Sun isn't a malefic for this yoga. > > > > You may not have 3 malefics in Kendra, but yet the slight effects of Sarpa > > yoga will be there. > > > > Exalted Rahu will however mitigate the evil, and focus more on > intellectual > > persuits. > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > - > > " j.k. dasgupta " <dga > > <sjvc > > > Friday, May 03, 2002 8:31 AM > > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY > > > > > > > dear doc, > > > > > > i think it is not correct. > > > > > > when KSY matures, the suffering makes the person materialistic but when > > KAY > > > matures, the person becomes more spiritual. > > > > > > but that also most probably depends on which planet is stronger. i have > > KAY > > > and it seems it has matured about 2-3 years ago. my rahu is exaulted in > > 4H. > > > i feel that i have become more matured, more materialistic and practical > > now > > > than before. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > dasgupta > > > > > > > > > - > > > " Dr.D.Banerjee " <drdilip > > > <sjvc > > > > Friday, May 03, 2002 8:22 PM > > > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > Dear Valerie > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > Both kalasarpa yoga (KSY) and Kala amrita Yoga ( KAY) brings in > > > tremendous > > > > sufferings in the life of a person who have anyone of these yogas in > his > > > > chart. The essential difference is in the outcome of these sufferings. > > In > > > > KSY, the sufferings make a person a devil one and criminal tendencies > > in > > > > him crop up. His nature becomes destructive. On the other hand , in > KAY > > > the > > > > sufferings make him a humble being , and transform him into a > spiritual > > > and > > > > saintly > > > > person. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Dr. Banerjee > > > > ---- Original Message ----- > > > > " ÷ÁÌÅÒÉÑ ìÉ×ÉÎÁ " <livina > > > > <sjvc > > > > > Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:09 AM > > > > Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.D.Banerjee > > > > > > > > > > > Put your finger on Ketu, then move it zodiacally upto Rahu in the > > rasi > > > > chart; > > > > > if all the planets are situated between Ketu and Rahu , then > Kalasarpa > > > > yoga is > > > > > formed. > > > > > > > > > > > Put your finger on Rahu, then move it zodiacally upto Ketu in the > > rasi > > > > chart; > > > > > if all the planets are situated between Rahu and ketu, then Kala > > amrita > > > > yoga is > > > > > formed. > > > > > > > > > > Now I understand how to recognize them. But what is the essential > > > > difference > > > > > between these two yogas ? > > > > > > > > > > Valerie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Shailesh, I have actually gone through these text and my understanding is 3 kendras must be occupied by melefic to rise the Sarpa yoga. thanks, Karu - Shailesh varahamihira Sunday, May 05, 2002 12:34 PM Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY Dear Karu & List, There is difference of opinion reg. Sarpa Yoga. This is what I had dug-out for KSY assignment. BHPS: If 3 Kendras are occupied by benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while malefics so placed will cause Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas, respectively, produce benefic and malefic results. [One born in Sarpa Yog will be crooked, cruel, poor, miserable and will depend on others for food and drinks.] HORASARA: If all the benefics be in Kendr Bhavas, Mala Yog is formed. In a like position malefics cause Sarpa Yog. [One born in Sarpa Yog will talk too much and will leave his paternal place. He will be a source of trouble to others and derive pleasure thereby. He will be short lived.] SARAVALI: Malefics in all Angles produce Sarpa Yoga. These two are Dala Yogas. Dr BV Raman has described another similar sounding yoga, Sarpa-pasa yoga, which is caused by affliction to the fifth house – significator of progeny – by two or extreme malefics, RA, SA, MA, etc and leads to loss/ denial of children. The basic consideration appears to be that Kendar's should be predominantly under Malefic influence, without Benefic influence to counteract the same. This is my understanding - hope it stand scrutiny of the Gurus. Best wishes Shailesh - karu varahamihira Sunday, May 05, 2002 2:56 AM [Hare Rama Krishna] Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY OM Namo Narayanaya,Dear Visti and Gurus,I feel the best way to clear this is 3 kendras occupied by malefic givesSarpa yoga.If 3 malefic in one Kendra, do you think still the yoga rises ?Just make the chart and make one of the fixed sign as lagna today. SayScorpio. 7th is occupied by Rahu,Saturn and Mars. I think this is not thedefinition, but if 3 kendras occupied by malefic gives this.thanks, if you could clear this.Karu> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> --------------------------> Dear Dasgupta,> 3 malefics in Kendra give Sarpa Yoga. If there are benefics in Kendra they> break this.. also check Paka Lagna and its lord, to see the personsactions> and the results of the same respectively.>> Sun isn't a malefic for this yoga.>> You may not have 3 malefics in Kendra, but yet the slight effects of Sarpa> yoga will be there.>> Exalted Rahu will however mitigate the evil, and focus more onintellectual> persuits.>> Best wishes, Visti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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