Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 Dear Visti, Can you elaborate on the following: >>>>>note that the Paka Lagna and its lord is important to see where the person actually puts their activity.. i.e. are they attributing to the Sarpa or trying to avoid it? <<<<<< Thanks & best wishes, Shailesh - Visti Larsen varahamihira Sunday, May 05, 2002 2:21 PM Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY Hare Rama Krishna------Dear Karu,Don't you remember the lessons on Varahamihira?3 Malefics in Kendra to lagna, no matter Kendra gives rise to Sarpa Yoga.The 4 Kendras represent the base of activity for Dharma(1), Moksha(4),Kaama(7) and Artha(10).The 4 postures associated with thes are; Standing, Sleeping, Dancing andCrawling.. The place where the Sarpa is, will influence the personsposture.I.e. malefics in 4th will give unhappiness.. and if your not happy, then youcannot attain moksha.. hence bad sleep as well.In other words, the person is surrounded by poison. Check the charts ofcriminals for such yogas, note that the Paka Lagna and its lord is importantto see where the person actually puts their activity.. i.e. are theyattributing to the Sarpa or trying to avoid it?Best wishes, Visti.-"karu" <heen<varahamihira >Saturday, May 04, 2002 11:26 PM[Hare Rama Krishna] Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY>>> OM Namo Narayanaya,> Dear Visti and Gurus,>> I feel the best way to clear this is 3 kendras occupied by malefic gives> Sarpa yoga.> If 3 malefic in one Kendra, do you think still the yoga rises ?>> Just make the chart and make one of the fixed sign as lagna today. Say> Scorpio. 7th is occupied by Rahu,Saturn and Mars. I think this is not the> definition, but if 3 kendras occupied by malefic gives this.>> thanks, if you could clear this.> Karu>> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> > --------------------------> > Dear Dasgupta,> > 3 malefics in Kendra give Sarpa Yoga. If there are benefics in Kendrathey> > break this.. also check Paka Lagna and its lord, to see the persons> actions> > and the results of the same respectively.> >> > Sun isn't a malefic for this yoga.> >> > You may not have 3 malefics in Kendra, but yet the slight effects ofSarpa> > yoga will be there.> >> > Exalted Rahu will however mitigate the evil, and focus more on> intellectual> > persuits.> >> > Best wishes, Visti.> >> > -> > "j.k. dasgupta" <dga> > <sjvc >> > Friday, May 03, 2002 8:31 AM> > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> >> >> > > dear doc,> > >> > > i think it is not correct.> > >> > > when KSY matures, the suffering makes the person materialistic butwhen> > KAY> > > matures, the person becomes more spiritual.> > >> > > but that also most probably depends on which planet is stronger. ihave> > KAY> > > and it seems it has matured about 2-3 years ago. my rahu is exaultedin> > 4H.> > > i feel that i have become more matured, more materialistic andpractical> > now> > > than before.> > >> > > regards> > >> > > dasgupta> > >> > >> > > -> > > "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip> > > <sjvc >> > > Friday, May 03, 2002 8:22 PM> > > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> > >> > >> > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > -----------------------------> > > > Dear Valerie> > > > Namaste> > > >> > > > Both kalasarpa yoga (KSY) and Kala amrita Yoga ( KAY) brings in> > > tremendous> > > > sufferings in the life of a person who have anyone of these yogas in> his> > > > chart. The essential difference is in the outcome of thesesufferings.> > In> > > > KSY, the sufferings make a person a devil one and criminaltendencies> > in> > > > him crop up. His nature becomes destructive. On the other hand , in> KAY> > > the> > > > sufferings make him a humble being , and transform him into a> spiritual> > > and> > > > saintly> > > > person.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Dr. Banerjee> > > > ---- Original Message -----> > > > "÷ÁÌÅÒÉÑ ìÉ×ÉÎÁ" <livina> > > > <sjvc >> > > > Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:09 AM> > > > Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> > > >> > > >> > > > > Dear Dr.D.Banerjee> > > > >> > > > > > Put your finger on Ketu, then move it zodiacally upto Rahu inthe> > rasi> > > > chart;> > > > > if all the planets are situated between Ketu and Rahu , then> Kalasarpa> > > > yoga is> > > > > formed.> > > > >> > > > > > Put your finger on Rahu, then move it zodiacally upto Ketu inthe> > rasi> > > > chart;> > > > > if all the planets are situated between Rahu and ketu, then Kala> > amrita> > > > yoga is> > > > > formed.> > > > >> > > > > Now I understand how to recognize them. But what is the essential> > > > difference> > > > > between these two yogas ?> > > > >> > > > > Valerie> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ----------------- Dear Shailesh, Lord of Lagna shows the fruits of Lagna. I.e. how will you act. This is called; Paka Lagna. Lord of Paka Lagna, will show the fortune of those actions. In general the lord of a house shows the fortune of the house. Best wishes, Visti. - Shailesh varahamihira Sunday, May 05, 2002 1:35 PM Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY- to Visti Dear Visti, Can you elaborate on the following: >>>>>note that the Paka Lagna and its lord is important to see where the person actually puts their activity.. i.e. are they attributing to the Sarpa or trying to avoid it? <<<<<< Thanks & best wishes, Shailesh - Visti Larsen varahamihira Sunday, May 05, 2002 2:21 PM Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY Hare Rama Krishna------Dear Karu,Don't you remember the lessons on Varahamihira?3 Malefics in Kendra to lagna, no matter Kendra gives rise to Sarpa Yoga.The 4 Kendras represent the base of activity for Dharma(1), Moksha(4),Kaama(7) and Artha(10).The 4 postures associated with thes are; Standing, Sleeping, Dancing andCrawling.. The place where the Sarpa is, will influence the personsposture.I.e. malefics in 4th will give unhappiness.. and if your not happy, then youcannot attain moksha.. hence bad sleep as well.In other words, the person is surrounded by poison. Check the charts ofcriminals for such yogas, note that the Paka Lagna and its lord is importantto see where the person actually puts their activity.. i.e. are theyattributing to the Sarpa or trying to avoid it?Best wishes, Visti.-"karu" <heen<varahamihira >Saturday, May 04, 2002 11:26 PM[Hare Rama Krishna] Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY>>> OM Namo Narayanaya,> Dear Visti and Gurus,>> I feel the best way to clear this is 3 kendras occupied by malefic gives> Sarpa yoga.> If 3 malefic in one Kendra, do you think still the yoga rises ?>> Just make the chart and make one of the fixed sign as lagna today. Say> Scorpio. 7th is occupied by Rahu,Saturn and Mars. I think this is not the> definition, but if 3 kendras occupied by malefic gives this.>> thanks, if you could clear this.> Karu>> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> > --------------------------> > Dear Dasgupta,> > 3 malefics in Kendra give Sarpa Yoga. If there are benefics in Kendrathey> > break this.. also check Paka Lagna and its lord, to see the persons> actions> > and the results of the same respectively.> >> > Sun isn't a malefic for this yoga.> >> > You may not have 3 malefics in Kendra, but yet the slight effects ofSarpa> > yoga will be there.> >> > Exalted Rahu will however mitigate the evil, and focus more on> intellectual> > persuits.> >> > Best wishes, Visti.> >> > -> > "j.k. dasgupta" <dga> > <sjvc >> > Friday, May 03, 2002 8:31 AM> > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> >> >> > > dear doc,> > >> > > i think it is not correct.> > >> > > when KSY matures, the suffering makes the person materialistic butwhen> > KAY> > > matures, the person becomes more spiritual.> > >> > > but that also most probably depends on which planet is stronger. ihave> > KAY> > > and it seems it has matured about 2-3 years ago. my rahu is exaultedin> > 4H.> > > i feel that i have become more matured, more materialistic andpractical> > now> > > than before.> > >> > > regards> > >> > > dasgupta> > >> > >> > > -> > > "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip> > > <sjvc >> > > Friday, May 03, 2002 8:22 PM> > > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> > >> > >> > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > -----------------------------> > > > Dear Valerie> > > > Namaste> > > >> > > > Both kalasarpa yoga (KSY) and Kala amrita Yoga ( KAY) brings in> > > tremendous> > > > sufferings in the life of a person who have anyone of these yogas in> his> > > > chart. The essential difference is in the outcome of thesesufferings.> > In> > > > KSY, the sufferings make a person a devil one and criminaltendencies> > in> > > > him crop up. His nature becomes destructive. On the other hand , in> KAY> > > the> > > > sufferings make him a humble being , and transform him into a> spiritual> > > and> > > > saintly> > > > person.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Dr. Banerjee> > > > ---- Original Message -----> > > > "÷ÁÌÅÒÉÑ ìÉ×ÉÎÁ" <livina> > > > <sjvc >> > > > Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:09 AM> > > > Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> > > >> > > >> > > > > Dear Dr.D.Banerjee> > > > >> > > > > > Put your finger on Ketu, then move it zodiacally upto Rahu inthe> > rasi> > > > chart;> > > > > if all the planets are situated between Ketu and Rahu , then> Kalasarpa> > > > yoga is> > > > > formed.> > > > >> > > > > > Put your finger on Rahu, then move it zodiacally upto Ketu inthe> > rasi> > > > chart;> > > > > if all the planets are situated between Rahu and ketu, then Kala> > amrita> > > > yoga is> > > > > formed.> > > > >> > > > > Now I understand how to recognize them. But what is the essential> > > > difference> > > > > between these two yogas ?> > > > >> > > > > Valerie> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 Dear Visti, Thanks for the clarification - but my query related to the second part of the sentence. How doed one figure out whether the native, or his chart, is inclined towards the 'poison' of the snake, or for avoiding it? How Paka Lagna & its lord come into the picture here?? Thanks & best wishes, Shailesh - Visti Larsen varahamihira Sunday, May 05, 2002 5:30 PM Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY- to Visti Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ----------------- Dear Shailesh, Lord of Lagna shows the fruits of Lagna. I.e. how will you act. This is called; Paka Lagna. Lord of Paka Lagna, will show the fortune of those actions. In general the lord of a house shows the fortune of the house. Best wishes, Visti. - Shailesh varahamihira Sunday, May 05, 2002 1:35 PM Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY- to Visti Dear Visti, Can you elaborate on the following: >>>>>note that the Paka Lagna and its lord is important to see where the person actually puts their activity.. i.e. are they attributing to the Sarpa or trying to avoid it? <<<<<< Thanks & best wishes, Shailesh - Visti Larsen varahamihira Sunday, May 05, 2002 2:21 PM Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY Hare Rama Krishna------Dear Karu,Don't you remember the lessons on Varahamihira?3 Malefics in Kendra to lagna, no matter Kendra gives rise to Sarpa Yoga.The 4 Kendras represent the base of activity for Dharma(1), Moksha(4),Kaama(7) and Artha(10).The 4 postures associated with thes are; Standing, Sleeping, Dancing andCrawling.. The place where the Sarpa is, will influence the personsposture.I.e. malefics in 4th will give unhappiness.. and if your not happy, then youcannot attain moksha.. hence bad sleep as well.In other words, the person is surrounded by poison. Check the charts ofcriminals for such yogas, note that the Paka Lagna and its lord is importantto see where the person actually puts their activity.. i.e. are theyattributing to the Sarpa or trying to avoid it?Best wishes, Visti.-"karu" <heen<varahamihira >Saturday, May 04, 2002 11:26 PM[Hare Rama Krishna] Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY>>> OM Namo Narayanaya,> Dear Visti and Gurus,>> I feel the best way to clear this is 3 kendras occupied by malefic gives> Sarpa yoga.> If 3 malefic in one Kendra, do you think still the yoga rises ?>> Just make the chart and make one of the fixed sign as lagna today. Say> Scorpio. 7th is occupied by Rahu,Saturn and Mars. I think this is not the> definition, but if 3 kendras occupied by malefic gives this.>> thanks, if you could clear this.> Karu>> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> > --------------------------> > Dear Dasgupta,> > 3 malefics in Kendra give Sarpa Yoga. If there are benefics in Kendrathey> > break this.. also check Paka Lagna and its lord, to see the persons> actions> > and the results of the same respectively.> >> > Sun isn't a malefic for this yoga.> >> > You may not have 3 malefics in Kendra, but yet the slight effects ofSarpa> > yoga will be there.> >> > Exalted Rahu will however mitigate the evil, and focus more on> intellectual> > persuits.> >> > Best wishes, Visti.> >> > -> > "j.k. dasgupta" <dga> > <sjvc >> > Friday, May 03, 2002 8:31 AM> > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> >> >> > > dear doc,> > >> > > i think it is not correct.> > >> > > when KSY matures, the suffering makes the person materialistic butwhen> > KAY> > > matures, the person becomes more spiritual.> > >> > > but that also most probably depends on which planet is stronger. ihave> > KAY> > > and it seems it has matured about 2-3 years ago. my rahu is exaultedin> > 4H.> > > i feel that i have become more matured, more materialistic andpractical> > now> > > than before.> > >> > > regards> > >> > > dasgupta> > >> > >> > > -> > > "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip> > > <sjvc >> > > Friday, May 03, 2002 8:22 PM> > > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> > >> > >> > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > -----------------------------> > > > Dear Valerie> > > > Namaste> > > >> > > > Both kalasarpa yoga (KSY) and Kala amrita Yoga ( KAY) brings in> > > tremendous> > > > sufferings in the life of a person who have anyone of these yogas in> his> > > > chart. The essential difference is in the outcome of thesesufferings.> > In> > > > KSY, the sufferings make a person a devil one and criminaltendencies> > in> > > > him crop up. His nature becomes destructive. On the other hand , in> KAY> > > the> > > > sufferings make him a humble being , and transform him into a> spiritual> > > and> > > > saintly> > > > person.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Dr. Banerjee> > > > ---- Original Message -----> > > > "÷ÁÌÅÒÉÑ ìÉ×ÉÎÁ" <livina> > > > <sjvc >> > > > Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:09 AM> > > > Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> > > >> > > >> > > > > Dear Dr.D.Banerjee> > > > >> > > > > > Put your finger on Ketu, then move it zodiacally upto Rahu inthe> > rasi> > > > chart;> > > > > if all the planets are situated between Ketu and Rahu , then> Kalasarpa> > > > yoga is> > > > > formed.> > > > >> > > > > > Put your finger on Rahu, then move it zodiacally upto Ketu inthe> > rasi> > > > chart;> > > > > if all the planets are situated between Rahu and ketu, then Kala> > amrita> > > > yoga is> > > > > formed.> > > > >> > > > > Now I understand how to recognize them. But what is the essential> > > > difference> > > > > between these two yogas ?> > > > >> > > > > Valerie> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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