Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 Pranaam Sanjaya, If my latest mail did not convince you that Phyl is one akshara (syllable) in Sanskrita, the jpeg I attached may help in driving the point home. Please open the attached picture (only 17 kB). It contains some Sanskrita text in modern Devanagari script. Keep it with you as you read the following. (1) Read line 1 in the jpeg. Yes, it contains two aksharas/syllables. You may be tempted to read it as " Phyl " . That's not correct. It is actually " Phila " . Because modern Hindi does not distinguish between " Phila " and " Phil " , they write Phil that way. But, in Sanskrita, the first line of the picture reads as " Phila " and only as phila. That's not Phyl's name. (2) Now, read line 2. IT is " phil " . The slanted line under the second letter (la) shows that it is " l " and not " la " . THIS is how you write Phyl's name in Sanskrita. Now, I am arguing that the second letter of line 2 is not a separate akshara and works just an extension of the first akshara. If you don't agree, go to the next line, where I will drive the point home. (3) Read lines 3, 4, 5 and 6, which contain Sanskrit verses from Vishnu's 1000 names. These are written in Anushtup meter and each line should contain 8 aksharas as per the meter rules. If you count in your way (treating the vowel-less consonants at the end of words as aksharas), lines 3, 4, 5 and 6 have 9, 9, 10 and 8 aksharas respectively (count and verify). Clearly, that's not right! These lines written by Vyasa should have 8 aksharas each. Now you can see that the consonants with a slanted line under them are not separate aksharas. In the picture, I joined all such letters to previous letters. If you count that way, you will see that each of the four lines has exactly 8 aksharas. (4) Now relate this to line 2. It MUST be EXTREMELY CLEAR that line 2 has just one akshara/syllable. If " phil " was a valid Sanskrit word and Vyasa used it in a Sanskrita sloka, he would consider it to be one akshara. I REST MY CASE. (5) See lines 7 and 8. They contain " philisa " and " philis " . The latter is the correct pronunciation of the Phyllis. Again, relate to the observation in point (3) above and you see that line 8 has 2 aksharas/syllables and not 3. (6) Lines 9 and 10 contain " Brendana " and " Brendan " . Same point. (7) Lines 11 and 12 contain " Sanjaya " and " Sanjay " . Same point. Summary: As you said, pronunciation is the key. But sounds like " k " , " s " are sounds that are " kshara " in nature. They cannot be considered as aksharas. They need an vowel (prana/life) to become aksharas. The sound " k " , when alone, can't even be pronounced (try!). If you have patraka, you can pronounce patra and take a slight break and pronounce ka then. The sound " ka " can be pronounced on its own. That's why it's an akshara. On the other hand, if you have patrak, you can NOT pronounce patra, take a small break and then pronounce k. It is not possible to pronounce the sound k when it is alone. If you try, you will end up pronouncing it as " ku " or " kku or something. But you can NOT pronounce k when it is alone. The only way to pronounce it in patrak is to pronounce it following tra without a break. That is why k is not a separate akshara and merely a part of the previous akshara (trak or actually rak). The sound " k " , when alone, is " kshara " in nature. Add an vowel and you get an akshara. The combination " ka " (short a) is an akshara/syllable that is short (laghu). The combinations " kaa " (long aa), " kai " , " kau " , " kap " , " kaps " etc also form one akshara each, but they are all long (guru). The definitions of sound units, syllables/aksharas as done in Sanskrita chhandas is not only very logical, but supported by modern linguistics too. Sanjaya, now I have really done my very best to drive the point home. There is nothing more I can do. I sincerely hope you get it now. If you still don't see my point, I guess I am not destined to impart the correct knowledge to people at this time.... Your sishya, Narasimha PS: My aim when saying this is not to be arrogant or to bully you, but, I am quite comfortable and knowledgable in this area and know what I am talking about. When it comes to learning, my forte is not software or mathematics or Jyotish. My forte - the subject I am best at - is Sanskrita grammar, especially related to Sabda sastra and chhandas (science of sound - phonology and meters). I don't know what factor in my chart shows this, but this subject came extremely easily to me and I am a natural in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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