Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 \Om Gurave Namah Namaste respected Sanjay ji, I will be grateful to receive your clarification on the following points: Su-Dasa As per COVA (pg. 3) THE LAGNADI RASI DASA (ALSO CALLED SUDASAS) . . . . . . . . . . ARE TO BE USED IN PREFERENCE TO NARAYANA DASA ONLY WHEN THE MOON SIGN IS STRONGER. My query is: 1. Does the “moon sign is stronger” mean STRONG IN ITSELF or STRONGER THAN LAGNA? [in case of my Rasi chart, will Su-dasa scheme give un-reliable results - as Lagna is considerably stronger that Moon-sign, & therefore I have been advised to use Vimshottari dasa from Lagna instead of Moon. However, moon sign, being in 7th house, is also strong in itself). 2. Are the two dasa schemes, NARAYANA DASA & SU-DASA, mutually exclusive, or substitutes. [i have so far beleived that Narayana Dasa is to be used for assessing the 'efforts' & 'general environment' of the native, where as Su-dasa is to be used to assess the 'fruits' or 'results'.] PARIVARTANA & ATMAKARAKA In COVA, as also in VRA, you have mentioned that where the AK planet is involved in ‘Parivartana’, the other planet assumes the duties of AK. Can you please elaborate on this, as to what extent this exchange of duties goes, especially with reference to the following: 1.. Do the two planets exchange their mutual ‘charah karakatwa’? Or do the become ‘joint’ karakas? 2.. AK’s dasa ‘cleans’ the native and is very trying – in case of AK in ‘parivartana’, which planet will give this effect? 3.. From which planet do we find ‘Karakamsa’? 4.. For finding Ishta Devata, we check the 12th house from AK in D9. In case of AK in ‘parivartana’, which planet do we refer to? With sincere regards, Shailesh Chandra Chadha scchadha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2002 Report Share Posted July 5, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Sailesh 1. These are mutually exclusive dasa with the Narayana dasa finally predominating in all results. Since Lakshmi the spouse of Vishnu was born during Samudra manthana with the Moon, that is why the addition Nakshatramsa sphuta to the Moon Longitude gives the " Sri Lagna " . This is appicable in charts where the Money factor becomes the guiding force for life. Like businesmen who have their final goal as money and believe they can also b uy Moksha with it. Narayana is the truth as it is the movement of the Lagna. 2. Parivartana results in a change of responsibilities and each planet behaves like the other. For example in an exchange between the 9th & 10th lords, we find them doing each others jobs instead of that of their houses. In such a case, the job of the AK to guide the spiritual self is taken oven by the planet in the Parivartana. Such a yoga can also indicate a radical change in life like a murderer becoming a saint like Angulimala when He came into contact with gautama Buddha. Parivartana involving bad houses can also result in a lot of evil. Parivartana involving the children/pregnancy can completely change the prediction for children. Parivartana should be understood as a Yoga and not as merely placement. In the navamsa, the Parivartana does not hold and hence Karakamsa is always from the Atmakaraka. If the AK himself undergoes a parivartana in the Navamsa, then a radical change is sure to come in this life, especially after marriage or such incident. If the Navamsa dispositor of the AK is associated with the Ista devata, marriage will be followed by a period of spiritual rise. In the other divisions the AK shaould also be studied carefully. Atma cannot change in this body..it is its predominance that changes. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> Shailesh [scchadha] Wednesday, July 03, 2002 7:00 AM varahamihira [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa \Om Gurave Namah Namaste respected Sanjay ji, I will be grateful to receive your clarification on the following points: Su-Dasa As per COVA (pg. 3) THE LAGNADI RASI DASA (ALSO CALLED SUDASAS) . . . . . . . . . . ARE TO BE USED IN PREFERENCE TO NARAYANA DASA ONLY WHEN THE MOON SIGN IS STRONGER. My query is: 1. Does the “moon sign is stronger” mean STRONG IN ITSELF or STRONGER THAN LAGNA? [in case of my Rasi chart, will Su-dasa scheme give un-reliable results - as Lagna is considerably stronger that Moon-sign, & therefore I have been advised to use Vimshottari dasa from Lagna instead of Moon. However, moon sign, being in 7th house, is also strong in itself). 2. Are the two dasa schemes, NARAYANA DASA & SU-DASA, mutually exclusive, or substitutes. [i have so far beleived that Narayana Dasa is to be used for assessing the 'efforts' & 'general environment' of the native, where as Su-dasa is to be used to assess the 'fruits' or 'results'.] PARIVARTANA & ATMAKARAKA In COVA, as also in VRA, you have mentioned that where the AK planet is involved in ‘Parivartana’, the other planet assumes the duties of AK. Can you please elaborate on this, as to what extent this exchange of duties goes, especially with reference to the following: 1.. Do the two planets exchange their mutual ‘charah karakatwa’? Or do the become ‘joint’ karakas? 2.. AK’s dasa ‘cleans’ the native and is very trying – in case of AK in ‘parivartana’, which planet will give this effect? 3.. From which planet do we find ‘Karakamsa’? 4.. For finding Ishta Devata, we check the 12th house from AK in D9. In case of AK in ‘parivartana’, which planet do we refer to? With sincere regards, Shailesh Chandra Chadha scchadha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2002 Report Share Posted July 5, 2002 || Om Gurave Namah || Namaste Sanjay ji, Thank you very much for this detailed reply - it clears most of my doubts. However, it also raises a few new ones - I hope you will clarify these as well. Su-dasa: 1. Am I correct in understanding that the rules for interpreting Narayana Dasa will be fully applicable for interpretation of Su-dasa. Also, will these two Dasas of the same Rasi give results of the same nature (although, as is clear, Narayana Dasa results will be on overall level whereas the Su-dasa results will relate to the financial plane. ?? For example, if a native experiences severe hardships during TA Narayana Dasa, he should expect financial hardships during Su-dasa of Taurus. 2. The dasas in Narayana dasa scheme are divided into 3 parts to evaluate the results - to be given by Rasi Lord, Rasi occupants, etc. Does the same principle apply for interpretation of Su-dasa? 3. Since the Su-dasa is calculated in relation to Shri Lagna, does the status of SL in the Rasi chart, and the relationship/ position of the rulings Dasas Rasi & the Dara-rasi-lord, in respect to SL, have any effect on the results of that particular Dasa? Atmakaraka: You have not made any specific mention about exchange of Chara-karakatwa, unless I am missing something. Therefore, can you please confirm and clarify the following: 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) are involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK & Moon the Chara-AmK? 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? With sincere regards, Shailesh Chandra Chadha scchadha - Sanjay Rath varahamihira Friday, July 05, 2002 8:04 PM RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Sailesh 1. These are mutually exclusive dasa with the Narayana dasa finally predominating in all results. Since Lakshmi the spouse of Vishnu was born during Samudra manthana with the Moon, that is why the addition Nakshatramsa sphuta to the Moon Longitude gives the " Sri Lagna " . This is appicable in charts where the Money factor becomes the guiding force for life. Like businesmen who have their final goal as money and believe they can also b uy Moksha with it. Narayana is the truth as it is the movement of the Lagna. 2. Parivartana results in a change of responsibilities and each planet behaves like the other. For example in an exchange between the 9th & 10th lords, we find them doing each others jobs instead of that of their houses. In such a case, the job of the AK to guide the spiritual self is taken oven by the planet in the Parivartana. Such a yoga can also indicate a radical change in life like a murderer becoming a saint like Angulimala when He came into contact with gautama Buddha. Parivartana involving bad houses can also result in a lot of evil. Parivartana involving the children/pregnancy can completely change the prediction for children. Parivartana should be understood as a Yoga and not as merely placement. In the navamsa, the Parivartana does not hold and hence Karakamsa is always from the Atmakaraka. If the AK himself undergoes a parivartana in the Navamsa, then a radical change is sure to come in this life, especially after marriage or such incident. If the Navamsa dispositor of the AK is associated with the Ista devata, marriage will be followed by a period of spiritual rise. In the other divisions the AK shaould also be studied carefully. Atma cannot change in this body..it is its predominance that changes. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Sailesh Stick to Narayana.. lakshmi will follow and not vice versa..I am not getting into the details of Su-dasa right now. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> Shailesh [scchadha] Friday, July 05, 2002 10:50 PM varahamihira Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa || Om Gurave Namah || Namaste Sanjay ji, Thank you very much for this detailed reply - it clears most of my doubts. However, it also raises a few new ones - I hope you will clarify these as well. Su-dasa: 1. Am I correct in understanding that the rules for interpreting Narayana Dasa will be fully applicable for interpretation of Su-dasa. Also, will these two Dasas of the same Rasi give results of the same nature (although, as is clear, Narayana Dasa results will be on overall level whereas the Su-dasa results will relate to the financial plane. ?? For example, if a native experiences severe hardships during TA Narayana Dasa, he should expect financial hardships during Su-dasa of Taurus. 2. The dasas in Narayana dasa scheme are divided into 3 parts to evaluate the results - to be given by Rasi Lord, Rasi occupants, etc. Does the same principle apply for interpretation of Su-dasa? 3. Since the Su-dasa is calculated in relation to Shri Lagna, does the status of SL in the Rasi chart, and the relationship/ position of the rulings Dasas Rasi & the Dara-rasi-lord, in respect to SL, have any effect on the results of that particular Dasa? Atmakaraka: You have not made any specific mention about exchange of Chara-karakatwa, unless I am missing something. Therefore, can you please confirm and clarify the following: 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) are involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK & Moon the Chara-AmK? 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? With sincere regards, Shailesh Chandra Chadha scchadha - Sanjay Rath varahamihira Friday, July 05, 2002 8:04 PM RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Sailesh 1. These are mutually exclusive dasa with the Narayana dasa finally predominating in all results. Since Lakshmi the spouse of Vishnu was born during Samudra manthana with the Moon, that is why the addition Nakshatramsa sphuta to the Moon Longitude gives the " Sri Lagna " . This is appicable in charts where the Money factor becomes the guiding force for life. Like businesmen who have their final goal as money and believe they can also b uy Moksha with it. Narayana is the truth as it is the movement of the Lagna. 2. Parivartana results in a change of responsibilities and each planet behaves like the other. For example in an exchange between the 9th & 10th lords, we find them doing each others jobs instead of that of their houses. In such a case, the job of the AK to guide the spiritual self is taken oven by the planet in the Parivartana. Such a yoga can also indicate a radical change in life like a murderer becoming a saint like Angulimala when He came into contact with gautama Buddha. Parivartana involving bad houses can also result in a lot of evil. Parivartana involving the children/pregnancy can completely change the prediction for children. Parivartana should be understood as a Yoga and not as merely placement. In the navamsa, the Parivartana does not hold and hence Karakamsa is always from the Atmakaraka. If the AK himself undergoes a parivartana in the Navamsa, then a radical change is sure to come in this life, especially after marriage or such incident. If the Navamsa dispositor of the AK is associated with the Ista devata, marriage will be followed by a period of spiritual rise. In the other divisions the AK shaould also be studied carefully. Atma cannot change in this body..it is its predominance that changes. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 || Om Guruve Namah || Namaste Sanjay Guru ji, Thank you for your advice. Can you please clarify, or confirm my following points, reg AK. 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) are involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK & Moon the Chara-AmK? 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? With sincere regards Shailesh Chandra Chadha scchadha - Sanjay Rath varahamihira Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:08 PM RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Sailesh Stick to Narayana.. lakshmi will follow and not vice versa..I am not getting into the details of Su-dasa right now. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> Shailesh [scchadha] Friday, July 05, 2002 10:50 PM varahamihira Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa || Om Gurave Namah || Namaste Sanjay ji, Thank you very much for this detailed reply - it clears most of my doubts. However, it also raises a few new ones - I hope you will clarify these as well. Su-dasa: 1. Am I correct in understanding that the rules for interpreting Narayana Dasa will be fully applicable for interpretation of Su-dasa. Also, will these two Dasas of the same Rasi give results of the same nature (although, as is clear, Narayana Dasa results will be on overall level whereas the Su-dasa results will relate to the financial plane. ?? For example, if a native experiences severe hardships during TA Narayana Dasa, he should expect financial hardships during Su-dasa of Taurus. 2. The dasas in Narayana dasa scheme are divided into 3 parts to evaluate the results - to be given by Rasi Lord, Rasi occupants, etc. Does the same principle apply for interpretation of Su-dasa? 3. Since the Su-dasa is calculated in relation to Shri Lagna, does the status of SL in the Rasi chart, and the relationship/ position of the rulings Dasas Rasi & the Dara-rasi-lord, in respect to SL, have any effect on the results of that particular Dasa? Atmakaraka: You have not made any specific mention about exchange of Chara-karakatwa, unless I am missing something. Therefore, can you please confirm and clarify the following: 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) are involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK & Moon the Chara-AmK? 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? With sincere regards, Shailesh Chandra Chadha scchadha - Sanjay Rath varahamihira Friday, July 05, 2002 8:04 PM RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Sailesh 1. These are mutually exclusive dasa with the Narayana dasa finally predominating in all results. Since Lakshmi the spouse of Vishnu was born during Samudra manthana with the Moon, that is why the addition Nakshatramsa sphuta to the Moon Longitude gives the " Sri Lagna " . This is appicable in charts where the Money factor becomes the guiding force for life. Like businesmen who have their final goal as money and believe they can also buy Moksha with it. Narayana is the truth as it is the movement of the Lagna. 2. Parivartana results in a change of responsibilities and each planet behaves like the other. For example in an exchange between the 9th & 10th lords, we find them doing each others jobs instead of that of their houses. In such a case, the job of the AK to guide the spiritual self is taken oven by the planet in the Parivartana. Such a yoga can also indicate a radical change in life like a murderer becoming a saint like Angulimala when He came into contact with gautama Buddha. Parivartana involving bad houses can also result in a lot of evil. Parivartana involving the children/pregnancy can completely change the prediction for children. Parivartana should be understood as a Yoga and not as merely placement. In the navamsa, the Parivartana does not hold and hence Karakamsa is always from the Atmakaraka. If the AK himself undergoes a parivartana in the Navamsa, then a radical change is sure to come in this life, especially after marriage or such incident. If the Navamsa dispositor of the A K is associated with the Ista devata, marriage will be followed by a period of spiritual rise. In the other divisions the AK shaould also be studied carefully. Atma cannot change in this body..it is its predominance that changes. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Vyam VedaVysaaya Namah Dear Shailesh, Answers to your questions: 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) are involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK & Moon the Chara-AmK? Visti: Not exactly. Their Chara Karakatwa stays the same, but the objective changes. This objective changes when the 'other' graha in the Parivartana gets activated. i.e. During a Dasa related to Mars, Mother(Matri Karaka) has to learn the lessons of Mars. Hence the interpretation is correct. 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? Visti: Again refer to the above. Karakatwa doesn't change, but objective changes. I have a parivartana in Rasi between Lagna lord(Mars) and 10th lord(Sun). In Mars Dasa i underwent a radical transformation personality wise, against the expectations of many. Result? Here I am. Best wishes, Visti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Dear Visti, Thanks for your explanations. And best wishes for your Ireland confrence. Can you, or any one else, guide me to a good source for detailed understanding about PARIVATANA. Thanks Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha - Visti Larsen varahamihira Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:10 AM Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa Vyam VedaVysaaya Namah Dear Shailesh, Answers to your questions: 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) are involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK & Moon the Chara-AmK? Visti: Not exactly. Their Chara Karakatwa stays the same, but the objective changes. This objective changes when the 'other' graha in the Parivartana gets activated. i.e. During a Dasa related to Mars, Mother(Matri Karaka) has to learn the lessons of Mars. Hence the interpretation is correct. 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? Visti: Again refer to the above. Karakatwa doesn't change, but objective changes. I have a parivartana in Rasi between Lagna lord(Mars) and 10th lord(Sun). In Mars Dasa i underwent a radical transformation personality wise, against the expectations of many. Result? Here I am. Best wishes, Visti.OM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraFiles: varahamihiravarahamihira/database Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2002 Report Share Posted July 11, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Sailesh How can you be so mercurial..do not stretch. The AK does not change. It just means doing anothers task as far as the Bhava is concerned and responsibilities are shared. The work of the AK is that of the AK, just that the AmK will also support this totally. AK will not become the servant of AmK, but the AmK will be in perfect harmony with the AK. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> Shailesh [scchadha] Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:29 PM varahamihira Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa || Om Guruve Namah || Namaste Sanjay Guru ji, Thank you for your advice. Can you please clarify, or confirm my following points, reg AK. 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) are involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK & Moon the Chara-AmK? 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? With sincere regards Shailesh Chandra Chadha scchadha - Sanjay Rath varahamihira Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:08 PM RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Sailesh Stick to Narayana.. lakshmi will follow and not vice versa..I am not getting into the details of Su-dasa right now. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> Shailesh [scchadha] Friday, July 05, 2002 10:50 PM varahamihira Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa || Om Gurave Namah || Namaste Sanjay ji, Thank you very much for this detailed reply - it clears most of my doubts. However, it also raises a few new ones - I hope you will clarify these as well. Su-dasa: 1. Am I correct in understanding that the rules for interpreting Narayana Dasa will be fully applicable for interpretation of Su-dasa. Also, will these two Dasas of the same Rasi give results of the same nature (although, as is clear, Narayana Dasa results will be on overall level whereas the Su-dasa results will relate to the financial plane. ?? For example, if a native experiences severe hardships during TA Narayana Dasa, he should expect financial hardships during Su-dasa of Taurus. 2. The dasas in Narayana dasa scheme are divided into 3 parts to evaluate the results - to be given by Rasi Lord, Rasi occupants, etc. Does the same principle apply for interpretation of Su-dasa? 3. Since the Su-dasa is calculated in relation to Shri Lagna, does the status of SL in the Rasi chart, and the relationship/ position of the rulings Dasas Rasi & the Dara-rasi-lord, in respect to SL, have any effect on the results of that particular Dasa? Atmakaraka: You have not made any specific mention about exchange of Chara-karakatwa, unless I am missing something. Therefore, can you please confirm and clarify the following: 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) are involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK & Moon the Chara-AmK? 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? With sincere regards, Shailesh Chandra Chadha scchadha - Sanjay Rath varahamihira Friday, July 05, 2002 8:04 PM RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Sailesh 1. These are mutually exclusive dasa with the Narayana dasa finally predominating in all results. Since Lakshmi the spouse of Vishnu was born during Samudra manthana with the Moon, that is why the addition Nakshatramsa sphuta to the Moon Longitude gives the " Sri Lagna " . This is appicable in charts where the Money factor becomes the guiding force for life. Like businesmen who have their final goal as money and believe they can also buy Moksha with it. Narayana is the truth as it is the movement of the Lagna. 2. Parivartana results in a change of responsibilities and each planet behaves like the other. For example in an exchange between the 9th & 10th lords, we find them doing each others jobs instead of that of their houses. In such a case, the job of the AK to guide the spiritual self is taken oven by the planet in the Parivartana. Such a yoga can also indicate a radical change in life like a murderer becoming a saint like Angulimala when He came into contact with gautama Buddha. Parivartana involving bad houses can also result in a lot of evil. Parivartana involving the children/pregnancy can completely change the prediction for children. Parivartana should be understood as a Yoga and not as merely placement. In the navamsa, the Parivartana does not hold and hence Karakamsa is always from the Atmakaraka. If the AK himself undergoes a parivartana in the Navamsa, then a radical change is sure to come in this life, especially after marriage or such incident. If the Navamsa dispositor of the A K is associated with the Ista devata, marriage will be followed by a period of spiritual rise. In the other divisions the AK shaould also be studied carefully. Atma cannot change in this body..it is its predominance that changes. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2002 Report Share Posted July 11, 2002 Dear Sanjay, What if AmK and AK are naturally inimical. Let us consider Sun and Rahu, Jupiter and Rahu combinations. Best Regards, Venkateswara Reddy > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > Dear Sailesh > How can you be so mercurial..do not stretch. The AK does not change. It > just means doing anothers task as far as the Bhava is concerned and > responsibilities are shared. The work of the AK is that of the AK, just that > the AmK will also support this totally. AK will not become the servant of > AmK, but the AmK will be in perfect harmony with the AK. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > Shailesh [scchadha@h...] > Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:29 PM > varahamihira > Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > || Om Guruve Namah || > > Namaste Sanjay Guru ji, > > Thank you for your advice. > > Can you please clarify, or confirm my following points, reg AK. > > 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) are > involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK & Moon > the Chara-AmK? > > 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO > effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? > > With sincere regards > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > scchadha@h... > > - > Sanjay Rath > varahamihira > Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:08 PM > RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > Dear Sailesh > Stick to Narayana.. lakshmi will follow and not vice versa..I am not > getting into the details of Su-dasa right now. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > Shailesh [scchadha@h...] > Friday, July 05, 2002 10:50 PM > varahamihira > Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Namaste Sanjay ji, > > Thank you very much for this detailed reply - it clears most of my doubts. > > However, it also raises a few new ones - I hope you will clarify these as > well. > > Su-dasa: > > 1. Am I correct in understanding that the rules for interpreting > Narayana Dasa will be fully applicable for interpretation of Su- dasa. > > Also, will these two Dasas of the same Rasi give results of the same > nature (although, as is clear, Narayana Dasa results will be on overall > level whereas the Su-dasa results will relate to the financial plane. ?? > > For example, if a native experiences severe hardships during TA Narayana > Dasa, he should expect financial hardships during Su-dasa of Taurus. > > 2. The dasas in Narayana dasa scheme are divided into 3 > parts to evaluate the results - to be given by Rasi Lord, Rasi occupants, > etc. Does the same principle apply for interpretation of Su-dasa? > > 3. Since the Su-dasa is calculated in relation to Shri > Lagna, does the status of SL in the Rasi chart, and the relationship/ > position of the rulings Dasas Rasi & the Dara-rasi-lord, in respect to SL, > have any effect on the results of that particular Dasa? > > Atmakaraka: > > You have not made any specific mention about exchange of Chara- karakatwa, > unless I am missing something. > > Therefore, can you please confirm and clarify the following: > > 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon (MK) are > involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara- MK & Moon > the Chara-AmK? > > 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO > effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? > > With sincere regards, > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > scchadha@h... > > - > Sanjay Rath > varahamihira > Friday, July 05, 2002 8:04 PM > RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > Dear Sailesh > > 1. These are mutually exclusive dasa with the Narayana dasa finally > predominating in all results. Since Lakshmi the spouse of Vishnu was > born during Samudra manthana with the Moon, that is why the addition > Nakshatramsa sphuta to the Moon Longitude gives the " Sri Lagna " . This is > appicable in charts where the Money factor becomes the guiding force for > life. Like businesmen who have their final goal as money and believe they > can also buy Moksha with it. Narayana is the truth as it is the movement of > the Lagna. > > 2. Parivartana results in a change of responsibilities and each planet > behaves like the other. For example in an exchange between the 9th & > 10th lords, we find them doing each others jobs instead of that of their > houses. > In such a case, the job of the AK to guide the spiritual self is taken > oven by the planet in the Parivartana. Such a yoga can also indicate a > radical change in life like a murderer becoming a saint like Angulimala when > He came into contact with gautama Buddha. Parivartana involving bad houses > can also result in a lot of evil. Parivartana involving the > children/pregnancy can completely change the prediction for children. > Parivartana should be understood as a Yoga and not as merely placement. > In the navamsa, the Parivartana does not hold and hence Karakamsa is > always from the Atmakaraka. If the AK himself undergoes a parivartana in the > Navamsa, then a radical change is sure to come in this life, especially > after marriage or such incident. If the Navamsa dispositor of the A K is > associated with the Ista devata, marriage will be followed by a period of > spiritual rise. In the other divisions the AK shaould also be studied > carefully. Atma cannot change in this body..it is its predominance that > changes. > > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2002 Report Share Posted July 11, 2002 || Om Guruve Namah || Namaste Sanjay ji, Thank you for your clarification - after reading about AK in parivartana in COVA & VRA, I was a bit confused. Now you & Visti have cleared all the doubts. Your comment reg. Mercurian influence - well MER is my maha yogada, lord of HL & GL, as well as A5 , A11 & A7, dispositor of KE and its own dispositor exalted in Lagna - sitting in 5th house in Rasi, [but in A6 in D9]. Sanjay ji, I was under the impression that my habit of deep questioning was a gift of exalted Saturn in Lagna. Sincere regards, Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya> Dear Sailesh> How can you be so mercurial..do not stretch. The AK does not change. It> just means doing anothers task as far as the Bhava is concerned and> responsibilities are shared. The work of the AK is that of the AK, just that> the AmK will also support this totally. AK will not become the servant of> AmK, but the AmK will be in perfect harmony with the AK.> With best wishes> Sanjay Rath> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com>> > > > Shailesh [scchadha@h...]> Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:29 PM> varahamihira> Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa> > > || Om Guruve Namah ||> > Namaste Sanjay Guru ji,> > Thank you for your advice.> > Can you please clarify, or confirm my following points, reg AK.> > 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) are> involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK & Moon> the Chara-AmK?> > 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO> effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa?> > With sincere regards> > Shailesh Chandra Chadha> scchadha@h...> > -> Sanjay Rath> varahamihira> Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:08 PM> RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa> > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya> Dear Sailesh> Stick to Narayana.. lakshmi will follow and not vice versa..I am not> getting into the details of Su-dasa right now.> With best wishes> Sanjay Rath> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com>> > > > Shailesh [scchadha@h...]> Friday, July 05, 2002 10:50 PM> varahamihira> Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > Namaste Sanjay ji,> > Thank you very much for this detailed reply - it clears most of my doubts.> > However, it also raises a few new ones - I hope you will clarify these as> well.> > Su-dasa:> > 1. Am I correct in understanding that the rules for interpreting> Narayana Dasa will be fully applicable for interpretation of Su-dasa.> > Also, will these two Dasas of the same Rasi give results of the same> nature (although, as is clear, Narayana Dasa results will be on overall> level whereas the Su-dasa results will relate to the financial plane. ??> > For example, if a native experiences severe hardships during TA Narayana> Dasa, he should expect financial hardships during Su-dasa of Taurus.> > 2. The dasas in Narayana dasa scheme are divided into 3> parts to evaluate the results - to be given by Rasi Lord, Rasi occupants,> etc. Does the same principle apply for interpretation of Su-dasa?> > 3. Since the Su-dasa is calculated in relation to Shri> Lagna, does the status of SL in the Rasi chart, and the relationship/> position of the rulings Dasas Rasi & the Dara-rasi-lord, in respect to SL,> have any effect on the results of that particular Dasa?> > Atmakaraka:> > You have not made any specific mention about exchange of Chara-karakatwa,> unless I am missing something.> > Therefore, can you please confirm and clarify the following:> > 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) are> involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK & Moon> the Chara-AmK?> > 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO> effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa?> > With sincere regards,> > Shailesh Chandra Chadha> scchadha@h...> > -> Sanjay Rath> varahamihira> Friday, July 05, 2002 8:04 PM> RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa> > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya> Dear Sailesh> > 1. These are mutually exclusive dasa with the Narayana dasa finally> predominating in all results. Since Lakshmi the spouse of Vishnu was> born during Samudra manthana with the Moon, that is why the addition> Nakshatramsa sphuta to the Moon Longitude gives the "Sri Lagna". This is> appicable in charts where the Money factor becomes the guiding force for> life. Like businesmen who have their final goal as money and believe they> can also buy Moksha with it. Narayana is the truth as it is the movement of> the Lagna.> > 2. Parivartana results in a change of responsibilities and each planet> behaves like the other. For example in an exchange between the 9th & > 10th lords, we find them doing each others jobs instead of that of their> houses.> In such a case, the job of the AK to guide the spiritual self is taken> oven by the planet in the Parivartana. Such a yoga can also indicate a> radical change in life like a murderer becoming a saint like Angulimala when> He came into contact with gautama Buddha. Parivartana involving bad houses> can also result in a lot of evil. Parivartana involving the> children/pregnancy can completely change the prediction for children.> Parivartana should be understood as a Yoga and not as merely placement.> In the navamsa, the Parivartana does not hold and hence Karakamsa is> always from the Atmakaraka. If the AK himself undergoes a parivartana in the> Navamsa, then a radical change is sure to come in this life, especially> after marriage or such incident. If the Navamsa dispositor of the A K is> associated with the Ista devata, marriage will be followed by a period of> spiritual rise. In the other divisions the AK shaould also be studied> carefully. Atma cannot change in this body..it is its predominance that> changes.> > With best wishes> Sanjay Rath> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com>> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2002 Report Share Posted July 12, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavate VaasudevayaDear SaileshNo. it is a mercurial sign as Mercury is the real learner. Your questioning makes you a great learner and consequently one day a very knowledgable person. Mercury gives supreme intelligence and the ability to laugh and have high spirits even in the most de[ressing situations. Thank God that Mercury is a Yogada as it is the ONLY remedy against the depression of Saturn.With best wishesSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.comShailesh [scchadha]Thursday, July 11, 2002 11:01 PMvarahamihira Subject: Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa|| Om Guruve Namah || Namaste Sanjay ji, Thank you for your clarification - after reading about AK in parivartana in COVA & VRA, I was a bit confused. Now you & Visti have cleared all the doubts. Your comment reg. Mercurian influence - well MER is my maha yogada, lord of HL & GL, as well as A5 , A11 & A7, dispositor of KE and its own dispositor exalted in Lagna - sitting in 5th house in Rasi, [but in A6 in D9]. Sanjay ji, I was under the impression that my habit of deep questioning was a gift of exalted Saturn in Lagna. Sincere regards, Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya> Dear Sailesh> How can you be so mercurial..do not stretch. The AK does not change. It> just means doing anothers task as far as the Bhava is concerned and> responsibilities are shared. The work of the AK is that of the AK, just that> the AmK will also support this totally. AK will not become the servant of> AmK, but the AmK will be in perfect harmony with the AK.> With best wishes> Sanjay Rath> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com>> > > > Shailesh [scchadha@h...]> Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:29 PM> varahamihira> Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa> > > || Om Guruve Namah ||> > Namaste Sanjay Guru ji,> > Thank you for your advice.> > Can you please clarify, or confirm my following points, reg AK.> > 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) are> involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK & Moon> the Chara-AmK?> > 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO> effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa?> > With sincere regards> > Shailesh Chandra Chadha> scchadha@h...> > -> Sanjay Rath> varahamihira> Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:08 PM> RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa> > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya> Dear Sailesh> Stick to Narayana.. lakshmi will follow and not vice versa..I am not> getting into the details of Su-dasa right now.> With best wishes> Sanjay Rath> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com>> > > > Shailesh [scchadha@h...]> Friday, July 05, 2002 10:50 PM> varahamihira> Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > Namaste Sanjay ji,> > Thank you very much for this detailed reply - it clears most of my doubts.> > However, it also raises a few new ones - I hope you will clarify these as> well.> > Su-dasa:> > 1. Am I correct in understanding that the rules for interpreting> Narayana Dasa will be fully applicable for interpretation of Su-dasa.> > Also, will these two Dasas of the same Rasi give results of the same> nature (although, as is clear, Narayana Dasa results will be on overall> level whereas the Su-dasa results will relate to the financial plane. ??> > For example, if a native experiences severe hardships during TA Narayana> Dasa, he should expect financial hardships during Su-dasa of Taurus.> > 2. The dasas in Narayana dasa scheme are divided into 3> parts to evaluate the results - to be given by Rasi Lord, Rasi occupants,> etc. Does the same principle apply for interpretation of Su-dasa?> > 3. Since the Su-dasa is calculated in relation to Shri> Lagna, does the status of SL in the Rasi chart, and the relationship/> position of the rulings Dasas Rasi & the Dara-rasi-lord, in respect to SL,> have any effect on the results of that particular Dasa?> > Atmakaraka:> > You have not made any specific mention about exchange of Chara-karakatwa,> unless I am missing something.> > Therefore, can you please confirm and clarify the following:> > 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) are> involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK & Moon> the Chara-AmK?> > 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO> effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa?> > With sincere regards,> > Shailesh Chandra Chadha> scchadha@h...> > -> Sanjay Rath> varahamihira> Friday, July 05, 2002 8:04 PM> RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa> > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya> Dear Sailesh> > 1. These are mutually exclusive dasa with the Narayana dasa finally> predominating in all results. Since Lakshmi the spouse of Vishnu was> born during Samudra manthana with the Moon, that is why the addition> Nakshatramsa sphuta to the Moon Longitude gives the "Sri Lagna". This is> appicable in charts where the Money factor becomes the guiding force for> life. Like businesmen who have their final goal as money and believe they> can also buy Moksha with it. Narayana is the truth as it is the movement of> the Lagna.> > 2. Parivartana results in a change of responsibilities and each planet> behaves like the other. For example in an exchange between the 9th & > 10th lords, we find them doing each others jobs instead of that of their> houses.> In such a case, the job of the AK to guide the spiritual self is taken> oven by the planet in the Parivartana. Such a yoga can also indicate a> radical change in life like a murderer becoming a saint like Angulimala when> He came into contact with gautama Buddha. Parivartana involving bad houses> can also result in a lot of evil. Parivartana involving the> children/pregnancy can completely change the prediction for children.> Parivartana should be understood as a Yoga and not as merely placement.> In the navamsa, the Parivartana does not hold and hence Karakamsa is> always from the Atmakaraka. If the AK himself undergoes a parivartana in the> Navamsa, then a radical change is sure to come in this life, especially> after marriage or such incident. If the Navamsa dispositor of the A K is> associated with the Ista devata, marriage will be followed by a period of> spiritual rise. In the other divisions the AK shaould also be studied> carefully. Atma cannot change in this body..it is its predominance that> changes.> > With best wishes> Sanjay Rath> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com>> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2002 Report Share Posted July 12, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Venkateswara In such cases the change will be clearly visible as and when it occurs as it shows a radical change. For example Partha will change from the burning and heated Sun to the compassionate and wise Jupiter. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> venkateshwara_reddy [venkateshwara_reddy] Thursday, July 11, 2002 7:49 AM varahamihira Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa Dear Sanjay, What if AmK and AK are naturally inimical. Let us consider Sun and Rahu, Jupiter and Rahu combinations. Best Regards, Venkateswara Reddy > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > Dear Sailesh > How can you be so mercurial..do not stretch. The AK does not change. It > just means doing anothers task as far as the Bhava is concerned and > responsibilities are shared. The work of the AK is that of the AK, just that > the AmK will also support this totally. AK will not become the servant of > AmK, but the AmK will be in perfect harmony with the AK. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > Shailesh [scchadha@h...] > Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:29 PM > varahamihira > Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > || Om Guruve Namah || > > Namaste Sanjay Guru ji, > > Thank you for your advice. > > Can you please clarify, or confirm my following points, reg AK. > > 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) are > involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK & Moon > the Chara-AmK? > > 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO > effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? > > With sincere regards > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > scchadha@h... > > - > Sanjay Rath > varahamihira > Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:08 PM > RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > Dear Sailesh > Stick to Narayana.. lakshmi will follow and not vice versa..I am not > getting into the details of Su-dasa right now. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > Shailesh [scchadha@h...] > Friday, July 05, 2002 10:50 PM > varahamihira > Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Namaste Sanjay ji, > > Thank you very much for this detailed reply - it clears most of my doubts. > > However, it also raises a few new ones - I hope you will clarify these as > well. > > Su-dasa: > > 1. Am I correct in understanding that the rules for interpreting > Narayana Dasa will be fully applicable for interpretation of Su- dasa. > > Also, will these two Dasas of the same Rasi give results of the same > nature (although, as is clear, Narayana Dasa results will be on overall > level whereas the Su-dasa results will relate to the financial plane. ?? > > For example, if a native experiences severe hardships during TA Narayana > Dasa, he should expect financial hardships during Su-dasa of Taurus. > > 2. The dasas in Narayana dasa scheme are divided into 3 > parts to evaluate the results - to be given by Rasi Lord, Rasi occupants, > etc. Does the same principle apply for interpretation of Su-dasa? > > 3. Since the Su-dasa is calculated in relation to Shri > Lagna, does the status of SL in the Rasi chart, and the relationship/ > position of the rulings Dasas Rasi & the Dara-rasi-lord, in respect to SL, > have any effect on the results of that particular Dasa? > > Atmakaraka: > > You have not made any specific mention about exchange of Chara- karakatwa, > unless I am missing something. > > Therefore, can you please confirm and clarify the following: > > 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon (MK) are > involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara- MK & Moon > the Chara-AmK? > > 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will have NO > effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? > > With sincere regards, > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > scchadha@h... > > - > Sanjay Rath > varahamihira > Friday, July 05, 2002 8:04 PM > RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > Dear Sailesh > > 1. These are mutually exclusive dasa with the Narayana dasa finally > predominating in all results. Since Lakshmi the spouse of Vishnu was > born during Samudra manthana with the Moon, that is why the addition > Nakshatramsa sphuta to the Moon Longitude gives the " Sri Lagna " . This is > appicable in charts where the Money factor becomes the guiding force for > life. Like businesmen who have their final goal as money and believe they > can also buy Moksha with it. Narayana is the truth as it is the movement of > the Lagna. > > 2. Parivartana results in a change of responsibilities and each planet > behaves like the other. For example in an exchange between the 9th & > 10th lords, we find them doing each others jobs instead of that of their > houses. > In such a case, the job of the AK to guide the spiritual self is taken > oven by the planet in the Parivartana. Such a yoga can also indicate a > radical change in life like a murderer becoming a saint like Angulimala when > He came into contact with gautama Buddha. Parivartana involving bad houses > can also result in a lot of evil. Parivartana involving the > children/pregnancy can completely change the prediction for children. > Parivartana should be understood as a Yoga and not as merely placement. > In the navamsa, the Parivartana does not hold and hence Karakamsa is > always from the Atmakaraka. If the AK himself undergoes a parivartana in the > Navamsa, then a radical change is sure to come in this life, especially > after marriage or such incident. If the Navamsa dispositor of the A K is > associated with the Ista devata, marriage will be followed by a period of > spiritual rise. In the other divisions the AK shaould also be studied > carefully. Atma cannot change in this body..it is its predominance that > changes. > > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2002 Report Share Posted July 12, 2002 Dear Sanjay, Thanks for reply. Let me rephrase my question. Jupiter(AK) conjoined with Rahu(Amk) in Navamsa- Guru chandala yoga-- Sun(AK) conjoined with Rahu(Amk)-- Rahu causes fall of Sun-- aditya chandala yoga. Does this means The minister going to backstab the king? Best Regards, VR > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > Dear Venkateswara > In such cases the change will be clearly visible as and when it occurs as > it shows a radical change. For example Partha will change from the burning > and heated Sun to the compassionate and wise Jupiter. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > venkateshwara_reddy [venkateshwara_reddy] > Thursday, July 11, 2002 7:49 AM > varahamihira > Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > Dear Sanjay, > What if AmK and AK are naturally inimical. Let us consider Sun and > Rahu, Jupiter and Rahu combinations. > > > Best Regards, > Venkateswara Reddy > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > > Dear Sailesh > > How can you be so mercurial..do not stretch. The AK does not > change. It > > just means doing anothers task as far as the Bhava is concerned and > > responsibilities are shared. The work of the AK is that of the AK, > just that > > the AmK will also support this totally. AK will not become the > servant of > > AmK, but the AmK will be in perfect harmony with the AK. > > With best wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > > > > > Shailesh [scchadha@h...] > > Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:29 PM > > varahamihira > > Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > > > > || Om Guruve Namah || > > > > Namaste Sanjay Guru ji, > > > > Thank you for your advice. > > > > Can you please clarify, or confirm my following points, reg AK. > > > > 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) > are > > involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK > & Moon > > the Chara-AmK? > > > > 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will > have NO > > effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? > > > > With sincere regards > > > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > > scchadha@h... > > > > - > > Sanjay Rath > > varahamihira > > Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:08 PM > > RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > > Dear Sailesh > > Stick to Narayana.. lakshmi will follow and not vice versa..I am > not > > getting into the details of Su-dasa right now. > > With best wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > > > > > Shailesh [scchadha@h...] > > Friday, July 05, 2002 10:50 PM > > varahamihira > > Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > Namaste Sanjay ji, > > > > Thank you very much for this detailed reply - it clears most of > my doubts. > > > > However, it also raises a few new ones - I hope you will clarify > these as > > well. > > > > Su-dasa: > > > > 1. Am I correct in understanding that the rules for > interpreting > > Narayana Dasa will be fully applicable for interpretation of Su- > dasa. > > > > Also, will these two Dasas of the same Rasi give results of the > same > > nature (although, as is clear, Narayana Dasa results will be on > overall > > level whereas the Su-dasa results will relate to the financial > plane. ?? > > > > For example, if a native experiences severe hardships during TA > Narayana > > Dasa, he should expect financial hardships during Su-dasa of Taurus. > > > > 2. The dasas in Narayana dasa scheme are divided > into 3 > > parts to evaluate the results - to be given by Rasi Lord, Rasi > occupants, > > etc. Does the same principle apply for interpretation of Su-dasa? > > > > 3. Since the Su-dasa is calculated in relation > to Shri > > Lagna, does the status of SL in the Rasi chart, and the > relationship/ > > position of the rulings Dasas Rasi & the Dara-rasi-lord, in > respect to SL, > > have any effect on the results of that particular Dasa? > > > > Atmakaraka: > > > > You have not made any specific mention about exchange of Chara- > karakatwa, > > unless I am missing something. > > > > Therefore, can you please confirm and clarify the following: > > > > 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon > (MK) are > > involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara- > MK & Moon > > the Chara-AmK? > > > > 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will > have NO > > effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? > > > > With sincere regards, > > > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > > scchadha@h... > > > > - > > Sanjay Rath > > varahamihira > > Friday, July 05, 2002 8:04 PM > > RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > > Dear Sailesh > > > > 1. These are mutually exclusive dasa with the Narayana dasa > finally > > predominating in all results. Since Lakshmi the spouse of > Vishnu was > > born during Samudra manthana with the Moon, that is why the > addition > > Nakshatramsa sphuta to the Moon Longitude gives the " Sri Lagna " . > This is > > appicable in charts where the Money factor becomes the guiding > force for > > life. Like businesmen who have their final goal as money and > believe they > > can also buy Moksha with it. Narayana is the truth as it is the > movement of > > the Lagna. > > > > 2. Parivartana results in a change of responsibilities and > each planet > > behaves like the other. For example in an exchange between the > 9th & > > 10th lords, we find them doing each others jobs instead of that of > their > > houses. > > In such a case, the job of the AK to guide the spiritual self > is taken > > oven by the planet in the Parivartana. Such a yoga can also > indicate a > > radical change in life like a murderer becoming a saint like > Angulimala when > > He came into contact with gautama Buddha. Parivartana involving bad > houses > > can also result in a lot of evil. Parivartana involving the > > children/pregnancy can completely change the prediction for > children. > > Parivartana should be understood as a Yoga and not as merely > placement. > > In the navamsa, the Parivartana does not hold and hence > Karakamsa is > > always from the Atmakaraka. If the AK himself undergoes a > parivartana in the > > Navamsa, then a radical change is sure to come in this life, > especially > > after marriage or such incident. If the Navamsa dispositor of the A > K is > > associated with the Ista devata, marriage will be followed by a > period of > > spiritual rise. In the other divisions the AK shaould also be > studied > > carefully. Atma cannot change in this body..it is its predominance > that > > changes. > > > > With best wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2002 Report Share Posted July 13, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Venkat The Karakatwa is based on the Rasi Chart. The Vargas are its characteristics, skills, nature and abilities as well as desires and sanchita Karma. The chandala yoga in the navamsa does not change the Karakatwa. It shows manushya hatya as a sin of the past karma or one that can manifest in this life as well if associated with Lagnamsa. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> venkateshwara_reddy [venkateshwara_reddy] Friday, July 12, 2002 8:07 AM varahamihira Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa Dear Sanjay, Thanks for reply. Let me rephrase my question. Jupiter(AK) conjoined with Rahu(Amk) in Navamsa- Guru chandala yoga-- Sun(AK) conjoined with Rahu(Amk)-- Rahu causes fall of Sun-- aditya chandala yoga. Does this means The minister going to backstab the king? Best Regards, VR > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > Dear Venkateswara > In such cases the change will be clearly visible as and when it occurs as > it shows a radical change. For example Partha will change from the burning > and heated Sun to the compassionate and wise Jupiter. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > venkateshwara_reddy [venkateshwara_reddy] > Thursday, July 11, 2002 7:49 AM > varahamihira > Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > Dear Sanjay, > What if AmK and AK are naturally inimical. Let us consider Sun and > Rahu, Jupiter and Rahu combinations. > > > Best Regards, > Venkateswara Reddy > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > > Dear Sailesh > > How can you be so mercurial..do not stretch. The AK does not > change. It > > just means doing anothers task as far as the Bhava is concerned and > > responsibilities are shared. The work of the AK is that of the AK, > just that > > the AmK will also support this totally. AK will not become the > servant of > > AmK, but the AmK will be in perfect harmony with the AK. > > With best wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > > > > > Shailesh [scchadha@h...] > > Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:29 PM > > varahamihira > > Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > > > > || Om Guruve Namah || > > > > Namaste Sanjay Guru ji, > > > > Thank you for your advice. > > > > Can you please clarify, or confirm my following points, reg AK. > > > > 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon(MK) > are > > involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara-MK > & Moon > > the Chara-AmK? > > > > 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will > have NO > > effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? > > > > With sincere regards > > > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > > scchadha@h... > > > > - > > Sanjay Rath > > varahamihira > > Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:08 PM > > RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > > Dear Sailesh > > Stick to Narayana.. lakshmi will follow and not vice versa..I am > not > > getting into the details of Su-dasa right now. > > With best wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > > > > > Shailesh [scchadha@h...] > > Friday, July 05, 2002 10:50 PM > > varahamihira > > Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > Namaste Sanjay ji, > > > > Thank you very much for this detailed reply - it clears most of > my doubts. > > > > However, it also raises a few new ones - I hope you will clarify > these as > > well. > > > > Su-dasa: > > > > 1. Am I correct in understanding that the rules for > interpreting > > Narayana Dasa will be fully applicable for interpretation of Su- > dasa. > > > > Also, will these two Dasas of the same Rasi give results of the > same > > nature (although, as is clear, Narayana Dasa results will be on > overall > > level whereas the Su-dasa results will relate to the financial > plane. ?? > > > > For example, if a native experiences severe hardships during TA > Narayana > > Dasa, he should expect financial hardships during Su-dasa of Taurus. > > > > 2. The dasas in Narayana dasa scheme are divided > into 3 > > parts to evaluate the results - to be given by Rasi Lord, Rasi > occupants, > > etc. Does the same principle apply for interpretation of Su-dasa? > > > > 3. Since the Su-dasa is calculated in relation > to Shri > > Lagna, does the status of SL in the Rasi chart, and the > relationship/ > > position of the rulings Dasas Rasi & the Dara-rasi-lord, in > respect to SL, > > have any effect on the results of that particular Dasa? > > > > Atmakaraka: > > > > You have not made any specific mention about exchange of Chara- > karakatwa, > > unless I am missing something. > > > > Therefore, can you please confirm and clarify the following: > > > > 1. Can I take it that if Mars (AmK) and Moon > (MK) are > > involved in a 'parivartana' in Rasi, Mars will become the Chara- > MK & Moon > > the Chara-AmK? > > > > 2. Also, is it correct that 'parivartana' will > have NO > > effect on natural-karakatwa & sthira-karakatwa? > > > > With sincere regards, > > > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > > scchadha@h... > > > > - > > Sanjay Rath > > varahamihira > > Friday, July 05, 2002 8:04 PM > > RE: [Hare Rama Krishna] Queries reg AK & Su-Dasa > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > > Dear Sailesh > > > > 1. These are mutually exclusive dasa with the Narayana dasa > finally > > predominating in all results. Since Lakshmi the spouse of > Vishnu was > > born during Samudra manthana with the Moon, that is why the > addition > > Nakshatramsa sphuta to the Moon Longitude gives the " Sri Lagna " . > This is > > appicable in charts where the Money factor becomes the guiding > force for > > life. Like businesmen who have their final goal as money and > believe they > > can also buy Moksha with it. Narayana is the truth as it is the > movement of > > the Lagna. > > > > 2. Parivartana results in a change of responsibilities and > each planet > > behaves like the other. For example in an exchange between the > 9th & > > 10th lords, we find them doing each others jobs instead of that of > their > > houses. > > In such a case, the job of the AK to guide the spiritual self > is taken > > oven by the planet in the Parivartana. Such a yoga can also > indicate a > > radical change in life like a murderer becoming a saint like > Angulimala when > > He came into contact with gautama Buddha. Parivartana involving bad > houses > > can also result in a lot of evil. Parivartana involving the > > children/pregnancy can completely change the prediction for > children. > > Parivartana should be understood as a Yoga and not as merely > placement. > > In the navamsa, the Parivartana does not hold and hence > Karakamsa is > > always from the Atmakaraka. If the AK himself undergoes a > parivartana in the > > Navamsa, then a radical change is sure to come in this life, > especially > > after marriage or such incident. If the Navamsa dispositor of the A > K is > > associated with the Ista devata, marriage will be followed by a > period of > > spiritual rise. In the other divisions the AK shaould also be > studied > > carefully. Atma cannot change in this body..it is its predominance > that > > changes. > > > > With best wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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