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om gurave namah

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Pranaam Gurudeva,

 

I have a few things to say on this topic, which I had been wanting

to say for quite some time.

 

In my opinion, I dont think you have erred in anything that you have

taught us. The only logical & valid explanation I can come up with,

is that, the problem lies in my/our limited understanding of the

breadth and depth of your teachings.

 

What I/We lack, is the usage/application of these teachings. I/We do

have a fair idea of how to proceed and what things mean generally,

but what I/We lack is experience with its application.

 

One way I test/understand your teachings is to apply it on blind

charts and on charts of people known to us. I also particpate on

other lists where blind charts are posted at regular intervals, and

I am happy to report that using the methodologies that I have learnt

in Varahamihira, I have been pretty successful in delineating charts

as whole or particular aspects of it.

 

Quite often, on other lists, people tend to reject my multiple usage

of dasas/techniques, but through these blind charts, I have been

able to demonstrate the efficacy of your teachings. As a result, I

have been getting a deluge of requests both publicly and privately

(especially) for readings.

 

I am not saying this to impress you, but impress upon you that your

teachings have not been in vain! I cannot take the credit of my

success, it belongs to your Teachings, my Guru Narasima and

blessings of your parampara and Lord Jagannatha.

 

However, I have a request for you, and that is, to stop further

teaching with immediate effect. Now that you have given/taught us

all these techniques ... I would like to attack blind charts/puzzles

on this list ... right in front of you, under your supervision. That

way, any mistakes we make is ironed out.

 

Regards

-Narayan

 

 

varahamihira, " Sanjay Rath " <srath@v...> wrote:

> Om Vishnave namah

> ------------------------

> Dear Narasimha & all Jyotisha in this list:

>

> Narasimha wrote:

>

> > > TREEN IS NOT A NAME. IN FACT THE LESSON WAS BASICALLY ABOUT

NAMES

> > AND

> > > SIMPLE MANTRA WHICH I WAS TRYING TO TEACH.

> >

> > Whether we are discussing a name or a general word is

immaterial. The

> > heart of the matter is - what combination of sounds qualifies as

> > akshara? Its definition cannot change from general words to

names.

> >

> > Whether in the name " Brendan " or in the word " treen " , the last

> > sound " n " is the same and pronounced the same way. Are you

saying

> > that the same sound counts as akshara (imperishable) in one word

and

> > as kshara (perishable) in the other? If not, are you saying

> > that " treen " is two aksharas/syllables and Vyasa erred?

> >

> > The bare sound " n " , when alone, cannot even be pronounced. How

can

> > such a perishible entity be considered as an akshara?

>

> Rath: Erratic pronunciation does not change the mantra. For

example the mantra 'namah shivaaya' is pronounced by many as 'nama

shivaay' and such an erratic pronunciation does not change the

efficacy of the mantra nor the greatness and compassion of Mahadeva

in saving the worshipper. Almost everyone I have met at Delhi used

to say 'om namo narayanay' and that does not change the goodnes of

Vishnu in coming to save him. The greatness of prasiddha mantra lies

in the greatness of the mantra devata. The sounds are but hollow

creators like Brahma unless they are infused with the life force of

the mantra devata.

> In a similar manner, the names of people have the people

themselves as the Devata. The Devata is the one who shall respond to

the name and people themselves are taught to respond to names. The

response may or may not be good depending on the nature of the

name/devata. For example, when Raghu (Goravani) called you

Narasingha, you would give detailed explanations on correct

pronunciation. Now, fact remains that it was you who responded to

the name Narasingha also. But the fact of a slight incorrect

pronunciation does not alter the name by which your fortune is

determined. This is the essense. While all the arguments are in one

place, the essence is more important.

> >

> > > I HAVE ALSO WARNED THE JYOTISHA IN THIS LIST ABOUT

BEEJAKSHARA'S.

> >

> > So, according you, does the sound " Phat " used in mantras have

two

> > aksharas or one?

> Rath: Phat is a beejakshara and is an astra. It is not a name nor

does it have a mantra devata. You should differentiate between

hollow words and those with a life force in them. Names of people

have the life force of the person himself. Names of institutions

have the life force of the head of the institute. It is for this

reason that the chart of a king attains significance as the good or

bad the subjects shall face shall also be the prarabdha of the king.

>

> Please read this:

> By the way, I would like to know what are the wrong things that I

have been teaching. After K.N.Rao & gang, you are the second person

to have accused me of this. It is important that I correct myself

first before I go on to teach further. Yesterday, I did not go to

teach at the Salwan School, Karol Bagh and instead Sarajit and

others came over and requested me to teach them the Udu dasa. I

think all my teachings can be wrong and request all of you to review

it for yourself and reject it if you are not satisfied. The list of

teachings (which were not known before my entry to the public eye)

are as follows:

>

> 1. Use of divisional charts - starting with the dasamsa (A.M, Feb

1996) and going into various divisions as given in COVA etc.

Saptamsa, drekkana where you actually see the sex and nature of

children, co-born etc, dwadasamsa with detailed use for parents,

elders

> 2. Pachakadi sambandha

> 3. Narayana Dasa

> 4. Su dasa

> 5. Shoola Dasa (what was used was generally Navamsa dasa, although

Sri Rangacharya had already taught this in the AM)

> 6. Nakshatra & other divisional deities, Ista devata, palana

devata, Kula devata, Guru devata and so many other issues related to

spirituality including Drig dasa.

> 7. Vimsottari variations & Udu dasa (the philosophy of the dasa &

use)

> 8. Paryaya dasa in Shastamsa

> 9. Rudramsa & its use, mandooka dasa

> 10. Janma Vighati Graha for sex determination in chart

> 11. Details of death including place, determination of lagna of

killer etc.

> 12. Kouluka & diseases

> 13. The foundation of Jyotish - Deva's (published in Digest, May

2002)

> 14. Tithi Pravesha Chakra

> 15. Tithi Ashtottari dasa

> 16. Use of Tithi's for timing dates & events

> 17. Arudha - Both Bhava pada & Graha Pada, determination of lagna

of spouse, enemy etc. Explanation for the difference between the

truth and untruth.

> 18. Argala - its determination & use

> 19. Varnada & its use

> 20. Chara Karaka & the 8 petal lotus of hinduism.

>

> ...the list is exhaustive and all this in a period of 5 years from

1996 to 2001. I think I am going very fast and need to slow down.

The kind of reactions of wrong teahing etc come when either (a) the

teaching is wrong or (b) the student is not able to give the time

for the subject or © it is just beyond him. Either way none

benefit.

>

> I hope your study at Varahamihira was beneficial. Please do the

evaluation seriously as this is necessary. Nobody benefits from half

hearted or doubtful attempts.

> With regards & thank you for your time

> Sanjay Rath