RE: [SJC: Varahamihira] Chakras and Jyotish

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Dear Sarbani and Sanjay Prabhakaran,

Here is what Gurudev Sanjay has mentioned in the JD issu: July 2002, in the foundation of Jyotish Section:

The zodiac at any point of time is divided into two halves by the line of the horizon. Since the earth rotates from the west to east, the planets and other stars seems to move in the opposite direction from any stationary point of observation on the earth. The sun rises in the east in the morning, ascends to mid-heaven (middle of the sky) by Mid-day and thenn starts decednding till it sets in the western horizon. Lagna is the point in the heavens that is just about to ascend or rise in to the heavens signified by the visible half of the zodiac and is akin to sunrise. This is called the ascendant. Similarly the point in the western horizon which is just about to descend or go below the horizon is called the descendant. The zodiac is divided into two halves called the Drushya (Visible) or adrushya (Invisible) by the line of the horizon. The drushya rasis or zodiac signs (complete or portions)in the visible half are the heavens called the Loka whereas the adrushya rasis or zodiac signs (complete or portions)in the invisible portions or below the horizon are called the hell or Tala. There are two postulates based on (1) Material and physical existence and (2)Spiritual existence, to describe these heavens and hells.

:: The Three Material Worlds ::

The physical universe is classified into three parts called Bhu loka (Earth), Bhuvah loka (firmament or the solar system which contains the navagraha) and swarga loka (Sky containing the fixed stars which is the residence of the demi gods). The geocentric zodiac (Bhu loka as its center) limited to Bhuvah Loka is called the Vishnu charka (Tropical zodiac, where the weather and other phenomenon of the atmosphere and beyond are experienced). The geocentric zodiac based on the fixed stars in the sky is called the narayana charka (sidereal zodiac). These terms find specific mention in the Vishnu Purana. The pious hundu recitedthe prayer " Om-Bhur-Bhuvah-Svah " every morning for the blessings of the material creation as prefix to the Gayatri Mantra.

:: The Fourteen Spiritual Worlds ::

Thus, there are seven heavens and seven hells. The heavens called the Loka are in seven parts:

 

i. Visible portion of the lagna that’s has ascended i.e., from the starts of the sign to the longitude of the ascendant called satya loka symbolized by the thousand petal lotus on which rests Prajapati (Form of Brahma), the progenitor. This is the seat of the creator and he is praised by all HIS creation. It shows fame as a consequence of the praise and health and vigor.

 

ii. Visible portion of the seventh house/ sign that is about to descend or go into the invisible half i.e., from the longitude of the descendent to the end of the end of the sign called Bhu Loka (the earth plane). It shows the death and re-birth as this is also the Mrityu Loka or ‘where death occurs’

 

iii. The Tenth house/ sign (with the mid-heaven as the throne of Indra in it) called svah or swarga loka.

 

iv. The remaining signs/ house in the visible portion (8th, 9th, 11th and 12th) are the Bhuva, Maha, Gnanah and Tapah loka.

 

Thus, the seven heavens are Bhu, Bhuvah, Svah, Maha, Gnana, Tapah and Satya loka and the deities of the planets Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Saturn and Jupiter respectively, preside over these loka. The seven Hells are the seven signs in the invisible portion of the zodiac called the Atala, Bitala, Sutala, Talatala, Rasatala, Mahatala and Patala respectively.

There are seven narakas (Most Inferior hells for punishment) below these seven Tala and are all situated at the Nadir, i.e., the point exactly opposite mid heaven in the fourth house. The spiritual Hindu recites the mantra “Om Bhur - Om Bhuvah – Om Svah – Om Maha – Om Gyana – Om Tapah – Om Satyam” everyday as a prefix to the Gayatri mantra aspiring for the highest heavens.

Thus, in any chart, the 7th house is examined for death and rebirth. If death occurs during the period of the planet in the seventh house or its lord, then re-birth is sure to occur. The place of rebirth can be guessed from the planet/ sign in the 7th house. If Mars is in the 7th house then rebirth shall be in an Island like Sri Lanka. Others indications can be read from standard text. It is also for this very reason that Parasara recommends the Mrtyunjaya Mantra with the prayer for Moksha during such periods of Planets connected with the 7th house. By constantly repeating OM TAT SAT and living a truthful life, the worshipper attains satya loka and the highest heavens beyond from where there is no return to this Mrityu Loka.

Regards

Sarajit Poddar

 

 

 

 

Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani [sarbani]

08 January 2003 01:36

varahamihira

[sJC: Varahamihira] Re: Chakras and Jyotish

Dear Sanjay,

Thanks for mentioning this. I have been following this thread with

considerable interest as we too in Delhi have been taught to map the

bhavas,lokas, planets and the chakras from the 7th to the 1st house.

The 7th house being the Bhu loka, or Mrityuloka, and hence cause of

the rebirth. This representation is different from what Karen and

Sarajit talked about, implying that there must be multiple modes of

representation.

Best regards,

Sarbani

varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran

<sprabhakaran@s...> " <sprabhakaran@s...> wrote:

> Om Namah Shivaya

> Om Sri Gurave Namah,

>

> Dear Laxmi, Sarajit, Karen and others,

> Thank you all for such great posts.

> My point is given at the end marked SP:

>

> > Sarajit: This is infact interesting to note, that you have

started

> the counting of the chakras from Virgo and as appropriate given the

> rulership of the Mooladhara chakra to Mercury. However, this

doesnot

> fall in the natural scheme of the zodiac. We know, where the

chakras

> fall in the body from the head to the base of the spine. Hence, the

> sequence of the chakras shall follow that order.

> >

> > Now I said that it follows the natural order or the anga division

> of the kalapurusha as this is something which shows that we are

> similarly built in the frame of the kalapurusha and we share

similar

> traits and potential. In fact as you have aptly said, when we

become

> ONE or NONE, there is no difference between I and THEE as there is

no

> differentiation.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now Karen has righly pointed out that Sagittarius to Pisces rules

> the lower limb namely the Thighs, Knees, and so on. So Scorpio

shall

> be the last sign which shall rule the lowestmost chakra, namely

> Mooladhara. Now this is well known that Scorpio is the house of all

> hidden energies which is shown by the shakti of the Kundalini. Now

as

> you have said Kundalini, rises in a reverse direction. If we take

> scorpio, even our reverse calculation is Justified as one of the co-

> ruler of Scorpio is Ketu, and is the serpent representing the

> kundalini. Ketu can always show reverse counting of the zodiac as

the

> kundalini moves from the base of the spine to Sahasrara.

> >

> >

> >

> > Lakshmi: Sarajit, there is no dispute about Virgo being an earth

> sign ruling Mooladhara. If you take into account the lordships

> assigned to each Chakra, you see that the order given below me

makes

> more sense.

> >

> >

> >

> > Mercury-Mooladhara

> >

> > Venus-Swadhisthaana

> >

> > Mars-Manipura

> >

> > Jupiter-Void

> >

> > Moon/Saturn-Anahata

> >

> > Saturn-Visudhhi

> >

> > Jupiter-Aagyna

> >

> > Sun-Sahasraara

> >

> >

> >

> > The Kalpurusha vibhajana is obviously based on the child-birth

> process. What emerges first is the head, then comes the face etc

and

> the body of the child is revealed in the zodiacal order.

> Interestingly, a child is born head first or upside down…like

> Kundalini. That is the natural inclination.

> >

> >

> >

> > Kundalini or yoga talk about inner processes more than about

> physical manifestations, like head or shoulders etc. Kundalini

> resides at the " base " of Mooladhara and Yoga is like Yaaga in which

> yogic fire is kindled to turn and press Kundalini continuously

> upwards and onwards. Upward thrust is the nature of fire and not of

> water, so the beginning of Kundalini yoga more aptly starts from

Leo

> than from Scorpio.The first star of Leo is Magha, ruled by Ketu and

> Leo is the fire sign, ruled by Sun, who is never retrograde,

> indicating that the jeevatma has to continually rectify its retro-

> action and follow the direction of the soul through the narrow &

> straight path of Sushumna nadi till it reaches Sahasraara. You

find

> this combination of Ketu and fire a recurrent theme in all

gandantas.

> Now can you tell me what that signifies?

> >

> >

> >

> > Sarajit: If you say that Manipura Chakra is the seat of Mantra

> Vidya and hence Scorpio is more suited then I shall counter that

> Mantra shastra is better signified by Mercury as he lords the

speech

> and Mantra shastra is all about speech, whether or not expressed!

> Moreover, saying Scorpio as Brahma Nabhi is not appropriate. The

> sandhis between the Water and the Fire signs are the Brahma nabhis

> and not any sign. Infact, I liked the way you have used the term

> nabhi to show independent existence and severence from the main

body

> (may it be mother). Infact Water shows end of creation (Pralaya),

> however again is a main component from the creation occurs, after

> Fire gives the necessary energy. So the nabhis can also indicate

the

> end of one life and

> > start of another. Infact there is a strong link between the

length

> of human life and that of the arc of the nabhis. We know that the

arc

> of the nabhis are 120deg. If we take the principle of progression

as

> mentioned in Manu Smrti, that each day of Deva (Sun) equals 1 year

> for human, then Sun's

> > transit from one nabhi to another one, charts out the maximum

> longevity of humans.

> >

> > Again the nabhi region is governed by the sign Virgo, so don't

you

> think that Manipura is better signified by Virgo, where Mercury

gets

> exalted.

> >

> >

> >

> > Lakshmi: Manipura chakra is the seat of mantra vidya and you know

> that all sound originates first at Nabhi (Manipura-Scorpio)and only

> after it passes through Akaasa tattwa (Jupiter-Sagittarius-Void) it

> becomes audible. So says Vishnu Purana. Each sound has in it the

> primal power of Pranava the First Sound and is a beejakshara. The

> power of Mantra is oordhwamukha like the agni…it has the power to

> take one upwards. Mars is Agni, whereas Mercury is Prithvi.

> >

> >

> >

> > Manipura Chakra is also the seat of creation of Brahma and Brahma

> vidya as Brahma sprung from the navel of Vishnu. Manipura chakra is

> ruled by Mars and Gurudeva in his Vedic Remedies in Astrology has

> clearly stated so. Even the colour of Manipura chakra is stated as

> Blood Red (Rakta VarNa), clearly pointing to Mars.

> >

> >

> >

> > Sarajit, I referred to the gandanta points as Brahma Nabhi and

not

> to Scorpio. These points do indicate an break and a new beginning.

> >

> >

> >

> > Sarajit: Coming to Anahata or the seat of the Bagavan, how can

> Bhagavan be seated

> > where it gets debilitated. Even if you maintain that " Capricorn-

> Cancer axis is the axis of rebirth…the seat of our desires and the

> root of our karmas... that continue to seed countless

incarnations " ,

> Cancer is more aptly sweated more, for two reasons, one this sign

> rules the heart

> > (Hrdaya Padma), where the lord seats and secondly, this is the

sign

> where Jup (Bhagavan- Mahavishnu) gets exalted. Abhijit is infact

> important because, this falls in the 10th house and this the place

> where we are guided towards the right action by Vishnu and not fall

> below. Hence here the action is more important than the love for

the

> Bhagavan, which emerges out from the

> > heart (Cancer).

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Lakshmi: Have you forgotten that when Sun enters Makara,

Uttarayana

> the most auspicious period starts? And, just before Makara

> Sankranti, in Dhanurmaasa (when Sun transits Sagittarius), Vaikunta

> Ekadasi comes, when the doors of Vaikunta open. While the Haridwar

is

> in Sagittarius, the actual Hari sits in Capricorn. Abhijit is ruled

> by Hari…I quote Guruji again from his book on Vimsottari Dasa. And,

> Hari is always Action, Sarajit. He's the One who comes countless

> times to perform karma that would reinstate dharma. By the way, why

> does the Bhagavan(Jupiter) get exalted in the nakshatra owned by

> Saturn?

> >

> >

> > Sarajit: If Rahu can do so much of damage being the lord of

> Aquarius, what he can do

> > where he gets exalted, in the 3rd house of natural zodiac and the

> most

> > un-clean house. Gemini is more suited as its lord rules the

speech

> and the

> > sign rules the neck and arm region (Below the face).

> >

> > Now it is important to note that when the shakti is moving from

> Agna to

> > Sahasrara, one is moving from Maya to Satya. Now this I think can

> be shown

> > by movement of shakti from Taurus, where Moon gets exalted to

> Aries, where

> > Sun gets exalted. After the Shakti reaches Sahasrara, the

> consciousness

> > ceases to exist shown by the brahma nabhi (between end of Aries

and

> start

> > of Pisces in reverse) which shows the severence of bodily

> consciousness.

> > Here the starting point of Aries shows the, ending of the

> cosciousness of

> > Independent existence, shown by the zodiac. Is there a

significance

> of Sun

> > being so close of the Brahma Nabhi, in Lord Sri Rama's chart? Is

> there some

> > significance of placement of different planets in one of these

> chakras?

> >

> > Lakshmi: The movement from Maya to Satya starts at the base of

> Mooladhara and not just from aagyna to Sahasraara. And, as I have

> already stated, birth is retro…always going back to past lives to

> justify present one. Kundalini is meant to straighten it and

forward

> it to Light, so the counting for the kundalini needs to be direct

and

> not in the reverse.

> >

>

>

> SP: I was thinking about both the scheme. i.e taking the 7(or6)

> chakras from

> A) Scorpio to Aries

> B) Virgo to Aries

>

> I tend to agree to both. I saw Gurudev telling in Ukiah conference

> for mapping the zodiac to loka's he reflected the zodiac across the

> Aries-Libra axis.

>

> Then gave the various 7 UPPER(+this) lokas

> Bhur,Bhuva,Swaha,Maha,Jana,Tapa,Satya to

> Libra,Scorpio,Saggittarius,Capricorn and Aries.

>

> The actual traversal kundalini on physical self would be from

Scorpio

> to Aries.

>

> This reversal in physical self could be because of Reversing nature

> of Ketu. Who rules kundalini.

>

> Maybe when a yogi overcomes each chakra he could enter different

loka.

> This each chakra could be each of the shadripu?

> Since Sc to Aries entirely falls in the 2 nabhi of Manushya and

> rakshasa. Does it indicate that only these two categories need to

> develop the kundalini?.

>

>

> Warm Regards.

> S.Prabhakaran

 

Hare Rama Krishna

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