Guest guest Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 Jaya Jagannath, Dear Dewavrat, Hope you are doing well. Why don't you participate more in the discussions? Anyway, I would like to write something on the first part of your query. For understanding Jyotirlingas, you have to understand the linkages between Shiva and Guru. The responsibility of both are to drink the poison of Sin of the bhaktas or disciples. Shiva comes in our life in the form of Guru as Shiva is the eternal teacher. Now we see the Navamsa for Spirituality as this is also the dharmamsa and has the measures of whatever dharmas or otherwise we have inherited from the past life and apportion our this life results accordingly. In Navamsa, Bhatrikaraka indicate the form of Guru. Hence we can find the navamsa occupied by the Bhatrikarka and find the Jyotirlingas associated with that sign. This is meant for getting knowledge with Shiva's blessings and relates to spirituality. However Shiva Linga can be worshipped for many things such as Remedies. Shiva is the life giver and can take out from most difficult of situaltions. So if a planet is debilitated / marana Karaka sthana in a horoscope, we can worship the Jyotirlinga, where the planet gets exalted. For example, in my case Jupiter is in Marana Avastha being placed in 3rd. This is why I shall worship Omkareswar, to pull Jupiter out of the avastha. There are some other principles based on what you want from such worship of the Jyotirlingas. All the best Sarajit > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA > > dEAR SHRI SANJAYJI, > > Sashtanga Pranam, > > Writing you this post afer a long gap. This happened due to mothers > health problems. Sir, Kindly help me in understanding the concept of > jyotirlingas. How to calculate them and the main basic principle > involved. Kindly also guide me about ehre I can get the available > matrial on it. > > Secondly I would like to learn the Main theory of Hiranya Garbha and > its relation to D9. Also enlighten me on the calculation of nisheka > lagna by Jaimini method and by using d7 principles. > > With regards > > Yours sincerely, > > Dewavrat Buit > > > Hare Rama Krishna > Archive:varahamihira > Files:varahamihira > varahamihira/database > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Devavrata, Heres an excerpt from an article i wrote: "...The Navamsa is calculated by dividing a Rasi of 30 degrees into 9 equal parts, corresponding to 3:20 degrees each. This is equal to the span of a Nakshatra Pada, and hence the Suns Rasi’s and Moons Nakshatra's are linked together in the Navamsa. This joining of the Sun and Moon shows the union of Shiva and Parvati (Shakti), and this form we know as Hiryanyagarbha! This Hiryanyagarbha takes the form of the Linga and Yoni which causes the creation of ALL life." Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - Sarajit Poddar varahamihira Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:37 AM Re: [sJC: Varahamihira] Jyotirlingas Jaya Jagannath,Dear Dewavrat,Hope you are doing well. Why don't you participate more in the discussions? Anyway, I would like to write something on the first part of your query.For understanding Jyotirlingas, you have to understand the linkages between Shiva and Guru. The responsibility of both are to drink the poison of Sin of the bhaktas or disciples. Shiva comes in our life in the form of Guru as Shiva is the eternal teacher.Now we see the Navamsa for Spirituality as this is also the dharmamsa and has the measures of whatever dharmas or otherwise we have inherited from the past life and apportion our this life results accordingly. In Navamsa, Bhatrikaraka indicate the form of Guru. Hence we can find the navamsa occupied by the Bhatrikarka and find the Jyotirlingas associated with that sign. This is meant for getting knowledge with Shiva's blessings and relates to spirituality.However Shiva Linga can be worshipped for many things such as Remedies. Shiva is the life giver and can take out from most difficult of situaltions. So if a planet is debilitated / marana Karaka sthana in a horoscope, we can worship the Jyotirlinga, where the planet gets exalted. For example, in my case Jupiter is in Marana Avastha being placed in 3rd. This is why I shall worship Omkareswar, to pull Jupiter out of the avastha.There are some other principles based on what you want from such worship of the Jyotirlingas.All the bestSarajit> OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA> > dEAR SHRI SANJAYJI,> > Sashtanga Pranam,> > Writing you this post afer a long gap. This happened due to mothers > health problems. Sir, Kindly help me in understanding the concept of > jyotirlingas. How to calculate them and the main basic principle > involved. Kindly also guide me about ehre I can get the available > matrial on it.> > Secondly I would like to learn the Main theory of Hiranya Garbha and > its relation to D9. Also enlighten me on the calculation of nisheka > lagna by Jaimini method and by using d7 principles.> > With regards> > Yours sincerely,> > Dewavrat Buit> > > Hare Rama Krishna> Archive:varahamihira> Files:varahamihira> varahamihira/database> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA dEAR Shri Visti and Shri Sarjit, Sashtang Pranam, Thanks for your lucid explanation on the Hiranyagarbha. I will participate more and more in the discussions. It is a great experience to discuss the hidden things with the learned people like you. Kindly ellaborate on the rudras also as I am unable to find the information anywhere and I am stucked up. Yours Dewavrat Buit Visti Larsen <vishnu wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Dear Devavrata, Heres an excerpt from an article i wrote: "...The Navamsa is calculated by dividing a Rasi of 30 degrees into 9 equal parts, corresponding to 3:20 degrees each. This is equal to the span of a Nakshatra Pada, and hence the Suns Rasi’s and Moons Nakshatra's are linked together in the Navamsa. This joining of the Sun and Moon shows the union of Shiva and Parvati (Shakti), and this form we know as Hiryanyagarbha! This Hiryanyagarbha takes the form of the Linga and Yoni which causes the creation of ALL life." Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - Sarajit Poddar varahamihira Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:37 AM Re: [sJC: Varahamihira] Jyotirlingas Jaya Jagannath,Dear Dewavrat,Hope you are doing well. Why don't you participate more in the discussions? Anyway, I would like to write something on the first part of your query.For understanding Jyotirlingas, you have to understand the linkages between Shiva and Guru. The responsibility of both are to drink the poison of Sin of the bhaktas or disciples. Shiva comes in our life in the form of Guru as Shiva is the eternal teacher.Now we see the Navamsa for Spirituality as this is also the dharmamsa and has the measures of whatever dharmas or otherwise we have inherited from the past life and apportion our this life results accordingly. In Navamsa, Bhatrikaraka indicate the form of Guru. Hence we can find the navamsa occupied by the Bhatrikarka and find the Jyotirlingas associated with that sign. This is meant for getting knowledge with Shiva's blessings and relates to spirituality.However Shiva Linga can be worshipped for many things such as Remedies. Shiva is the life giver and can take out from most difficult of situaltions. So if a planet is debilitated / marana Karaka sthana in a horoscope, we can worship the Jyotirlinga, where the planet gets exalted. For example, in my case Jupiter is in Marana Avastha being placed in 3rd. This is why I shall worship Omkareswar, to pull Jupiter out of the avastha.There are some other principles based on what you want from such worship of the Jyotirlingas.All the bestSarajit> OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA> > dEAR SHRI SANJAYJI,> > Sashtanga Pranam,> > Writing you this post afer a long gap. This happened due to mothers > health problems. Sir, Kindly help me in understanding the concept of > jyotirlingas. How to calculate them and the main basic principle > involved. Kindly also guide me about ehre I can get the available > matrial on it.> > Secondly I would like to learn the Main theory of Hiranya Garbha and > its relation to D9. Also enlighten me on the calculation of nisheka > lagna by Jaimini method and by using d7 principles.> > With regards> > Yours sincerely,> > Dewavrat Buit> > > Hare Rama Krishna> Archive:varahamihira> Files:varahamihira> varahamihira/database> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2003 Report Share Posted January 15, 2003 Om Gurave Namah ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear Visti, Namaste - Very interesting and pleasing to the mind and heart what you wrote as follows: At 01:24 PM 1/14/03 +0100, you wrote: " ...The Navamsa is calculated by dividing a Rasi of 30 degrees into 9 equal parts, corresponding to 3:20 degrees each. This is equal to the span of a Nakshatra Pada, and hence the Suns Rasi’s and Moons Nakshatra's are linked together in the Navamsa. This joining of the Sun and Moon shows the union of Shiva and Parvati (Shakti), and this form we know as Hiryanyagarbha! This Hiryanyagarbha takes the form of the Linga and Yoni which causes the creation of ALL life. " Could you elaborate on how the link to Navamsa occurs between the Sun's Rashi, and the Moon's naksatra, as given above? Thanks! Best wishes, Robert ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jyotish guru, Sri Jagannath Center http://www.robertkoch.com Email: rk PH: 541-318-0248 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2003 Report Share Posted January 15, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Robert, I was just explaining the philosophy, not a practical application.. let me elaborate. The Rasi's are also known as the DwadasAdityas, and are hence overlorded by the Sun, hence all Rasi's come under the lordship of the Sun. Similarly the Nakshatras, are the wives of Soma, the Moon, and hence are overlorded by the Moon. Hence, when we divide the Rasi into 9, and the Nakshatra into 4, we discover that the resultant span in both cases, are equal - 3:20 degrees. This span we call a Navamsa and from it we discern the union between the Sun and the Moon, which causes the creation of all beings. Spe This principle is best appreciated when we look into Nava-Navamsa (D-81/Kunda) and Navamsa-Dwadasamsa (D-108). Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - Robert A. Koch varahamihira Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:30 AM Re: [sJC: Varahamihira] Jyotirlingas Om Gurave Namah~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Dear Visti,Namaste - Very interesting and pleasing to the mind and heart what you wrote as follows:At 01:24 PM 1/14/03 +0100, you wrote: "...The Navamsa is calculated by dividing a Rasi of 30 degrees into 9 equal parts, corresponding to 3:20 degrees each. This is equal to the span of a Nakshatra Pada, and hence the Suns Rasi’s and Moons Nakshatra's are linked together in the Navamsa. This joining of the Sun and Moon shows the union of Shiva and Parvati (Shakti), and this form we know as Hiryanyagarbha! This Hiryanyagarbha takes the form of the Linga and Yoni which causes the creation of ALL life."Could you elaborate on how the link to Navamsa occurs between the Sun's Rashi, and the Moon's naksatra, as given above? Thanks! Best wishes,Robert ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jyotish guru, Sri Jagannath Center http://www.robertkoch.com Email: rkPH: 541-318-0248 Hare Rama KrishnaArchive:varahamihiraFiles:varahamihiravarahamihira/database Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2003 Report Share Posted January 15, 2003 Jaya Jagannath, Dear Robert, Visti has explained the linkage between the Sun's " Rasi " and Moon's " Nakshatra " . Let me give a mathematical explanation. Here we would find the smallest non fraction entity, which can correctly map both Rasi and Nakshatra. The duration of Rasi is 30deg (1800min) and that of a Nakshatra is 13deg20min (800min). Now which no. can exactly devide both of them, giving a non fractionl result. We can find that by finding the HCF (Highest Common Factor). The HCF turns out to be 200min. This is the duration of one Navamsa. Hence we can say that the entity which can " perfectly " map both rasi and nakshatra is the Navamsa. Regards Sarajit > > Hare Rama Krishna > > ---- ---------- > > Dear Robert, > I was just explaining the philosophy, not a practical application.. let me elaborate. > > The Rasi's are also known as the DwadasAdityas, and are hence overlorded by the Sun, hence all Rasi's come under the lordship of the Sun. > > Similarly the Nakshatras, are the wives of Soma, the Moon, and hence are overlorded by the Moon. > > Hence, when we divide the Rasi into 9, and the Nakshatra into 4, we discover that the resultant span in both cases, are equal - 3:20 degrees. > > This span we call a Navamsa and from it we discern the union between the Sun and the Moon, which causes the creation of all beings. Spe > > This principle is best appreciated when we look into Nava-Navamsa (D- 81/Kunda) and Navamsa-Dwadasamsa (D-108). > > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic- astrologybphs.zip > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda- ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html > - > Robert A. Koch > varahamihira > Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:30 AM > Re: [sJC: Varahamihira] Jyotirlingas > > > Om Gurave Namah > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Dear Visti, > > Namaste - > > Very interesting and pleasing to the mind and heart what you wrote as follows: > > At 01:24 PM 1/14/03 +0100, you wrote: > > > " ...The Navamsa is calculated by dividing a Rasi of 30 degrees into 9 equal parts, corresponding to 3:20 degrees each. This is equal to the span of a Nakshatra Pada, and hence the Suns Rasi's and Moons Nakshatra's are linked together in the Navamsa. This joining of the Sun and Moon shows the union of Shiva and Parvati (Shakti), and this form we know as Hiryanyagarbha! This Hiryanyagarbha takes the form of the Linga and Yoni which causes the creation of ALL life. " > > Could you elaborate on how the link to Navamsa occurs between the Sun's Rashi, and the Moon's naksatra, as given above? Thanks! > > Best wishes, > Robert > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Jyotish guru, Sri Jagannath Center > http://www.robertkoch.com > Email: rk > PH: 541-318-0248 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2003 Report Share Posted January 15, 2003 Jaya Jagannath, Dear Visti and Sarajit, Thanks so much for your explanations. Yes, Navamsa and naksatra are evenly aligned, certainly, yet prior to this, I had never considered it w.r.t. Jyotir-linga. Thanks! Best regards, Robert At 09:34 PM 1/14/03 -0500, you wrote: >Jaya Jagannath, >Dear Robert, > >Visti has explained the linkage between the Sun's " Rasi " and >Moon's " Nakshatra " . Let me give a mathematical explanation. Here we >would find the smallest non fraction entity, which can correctly map >both Rasi and Nakshatra. > >The duration of Rasi is 30deg (1800min) and that of a Nakshatra is >13deg20min (800min). Now which no. can exactly devide both of them, >giving a non fractionl result. We can find that by finding the HCF >(Highest Common Factor). The HCF turns out to be 200min. This is the >duration of one Navamsa. > >Hence we can say that the entity which can " perfectly " map both rasi >and nakshatra is the Navamsa. > >Regards >Sarajit > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > ---- >---------- > > > > Dear Robert, > > I was just explaining the philosophy, not a practical application.. >let me elaborate. > > > > The Rasi's are also known as the DwadasAdityas, and are hence >overlorded by the Sun, hence all Rasi's come under the lordship of the >Sun. > > > > Similarly the Nakshatras, are the wives of Soma, the Moon, and hence >are overlorded by the Moon. > > > > Hence, when we divide the Rasi into 9, and the Nakshatra into 4, we >discover that the resultant span in both cases, are equal - 3:20 >degrees. > > > > This span we call a Navamsa and from it we discern the union between >the Sun and the Moon, which causes the creation of all beings. Spe > > > > This principle is best appreciated when we look into Nava-Navamsa (D- >81/Kunda) and Navamsa-Dwadasamsa (D-108). > > > > Best wishes > > Visti > > --- > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic- >astrologybphs.zip > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda- >ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html > > - > > Robert A. Koch > > varahamihira > > Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:30 AM > > Re: [sJC: Varahamihira] Jyotirlingas > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > Namaste - > > > > Very interesting and pleasing to the mind and heart what you wrote >as follows: > > > > At 01:24 PM 1/14/03 +0100, you wrote: > > > > > > " ...The Navamsa is calculated by dividing a Rasi of 30 degrees >into 9 equal parts, corresponding to 3:20 degrees each. This is equal >to the span of a Nakshatra Pada, and hence the Suns Rasi's and Moons >Nakshatra's are linked together in the Navamsa. This joining of the Sun >and Moon shows the union of Shiva and Parvati (Shakti), and this form >we know as Hiryanyagarbha! This Hiryanyagarbha takes the form of the >Linga and Yoni which causes the creation of ALL life. " > > > > Could you elaborate on how the link to Navamsa occurs between the >Sun's Rashi, and the Moon's naksatra, as given above? Thanks! > > > > Best wishes, > > Robert > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Jyotish guru, Sri Jagannath Center > > http://www.robertkoch.com > > Email: rk > > PH: 541-318-0248 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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