|Sri Varaha| Moola dasaSJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses

May 25, 2003

SRI RAGHAVENDRAYA NAMAHA OM KLIM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH

Dear Lakshmiji,

Thank you for the information.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.lakshmisyama <laksmi_k wrote:

Hare KrishnaDear Ramadas,This was explained by Sanjay and the group during the west coast USA annual conference last year- there are Cds for sale on the sjc web site titled "moola series" which discusses this chart of Christopher reeves and others .If you arent in usa soon you will beable to order the Mp3s from shailesh of that discussion if you are intersted.With best wishes,LakshmiP.S. the moola handout is located in the files section of this group if you want to downlaod it.varahamihira , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> SRI RAGHAVENDRAYA NAMAH OM KLIM KRISHNAAYA NAMAHDear Sarbaniji,Can you explain me about how to analyse Moola Dasa taking Christopher's case?With best regards,Ramadas Rao.> > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote:Dear Ramdasji and Chandrashekharji, Thank you very much for your inputs. We are talking of Moola Dasa here. Sanjayji had given us class notes on how to study curses and to study Moola Dasa along with it. It was a very specific exercise. We were following the steps as outlined by him. He had also given us pointers as to what else to look into charts when seeing curses, like the devatas, for example. So we were merely following the guideline, and hence did not look into vimshottari and Narayana dasas. Christopher Reeve, was paralysed from his neck downwards. So apart from his head, his whole body was in paralysis. Our notes explained, that Rahu cut off the head and Mercury signified nervous systems which resulted in paralysis from neck downwards. The event occurred in Saturn Moola Dasha, while Saturn was transiting the 8th house, Aquarius, causing Kantaka from Lagna and Ardha Kantaka from tha Moon. The Navamsa lagna is also in nidhanamsa. Saturn was the triggering planet as it was involved in both curses, but here we took the 2nd curse, that is involving Mercury, (as one primary curse operates) as that was the stronger curse. Best regards, Sarbani > Chandrashekhar [boxdel]> Sunday, May 25, 2003 2:14 AM> varahamihira > Re: |Sri Varaha| SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses> > Dear Sarbani,So Mars is still connected. Since the injuries would obviously lead to loss of profession and Mars afflicting Moon plus owning the 5tn and the 10th, I thought that Mars would be appropriate. Again Lord of the 6th Jupiter is placed in 10th indicating the connection of his decease with 10th house.Another reason was that in navamsha too Moon make a Gajakesari Yoga. Moon is also Lord of the Ascendant,whereas Mercury is in debilitation in Navamsha. In Natal Chart he is lord of the 12th in 3rd causing a VRY of sorts. I did not know exact nature of his injuries. I do not know, but in the chart attached by you, the Saturn Mahadasha starts in 2050. So I suppose you mean Saturn Mahadasha, what was the Mahadasha at the time of occurence of the accident and the Transit position of Mercury, Saturn, Mars and Jupiter then please?Chandrashekhar.- Sarbani Sarkar varahamihira Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:57 PMRE: |Sri Varaha| SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses> Dear Chandrashekharji, Reeve became paralysed from a spinal cord injury following a fall from a horse. Paralysis implies the nervous system, hence the choice for Mercury. If you see his chart, there are two curses, one in the 3rd and the other in the 5th house. In the 5th house, Mars and Saturn are afflicting Moon. In the third, Saturn and Rahu are afflicting Mercury, who is also lord of two dusthanas. The 3rd house curse is stronger. Saturn being the common factor in both curses, the fall occurred in Saturn dasha as I mentioned in the earlier post. Mercury caused the nervous system problem. Apparently he is now better. Here's what I found on the web: Since his injury six years ago, Reeve has regained the ability to move his right wrist, the fingers of his left hand, and his feet. He can now feel a pin prick on the majority of his body and can move some of his joints voluntarily. Best regards, Sarbani > Chandrashekhar [boxdel]> Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:29 AM> varahamihira > Re: |Sri Varaha| SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses> > Dear Sarbani,Would not Mars be appropriate? Saturn lord of the 8th is in 6/8 from 8th which is aspected by Mars the yogakaraka. Mars rules morrow(Majja) and if I am not mistaken Christopher has become paraplegic. Chandrashekhar.- Sarbani Sarkar SJC: Achyuta Gurukulam ; Varahamihira Friday, May 23, 2003 2:37 PM|Sri Varaha| SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses> Dear Sanjayji and other Gurus, (For those of you who may wonder why we don't put up our discussions on the list: we have class every Sunday as Shiv Pujan takes our classes. Prior to that Sanjayji used to take them. So our doubts get cleared in class itself. Once in a while when our teachers are absent, we are send notes and assignments by Sanjayji, in lieu of his absence. We then put up our questions on the list.) In last Sundays class we were given an assignment on curses and how to read evil yogas in a chart. The two examples that we had to work on was Christopher Reeve's and Sri Rama's charts. Those present were Rohini Purang, Uma Purang, Saroj Tomar, Gaurav Varma, Deepika Sanghi, Suneet Kumar, Prashant Narang, Eric and myself. We had a doubt regarding Rama's chart. Our class notes clearly stated that the graha drishti of at least two malefics were essential for a curse. Secondly, benefics which were being cursed, represented the person cursing. In Rama's chart Jupiter and Moon are being affected. Jupiter represents the curse of a Brahmin, in this case Maharshi Narada. Since Moon is conjoined Jupiter, it shows that the curse will be actualised through mother, that is Kaikeyai. But will Moon by itself also represent a second curse, a matri shaap, or Moon is only acting as a medium? Ideally Moon should also show a second curse, apart from executing Jupiter's curse. If so, then whose? Will there be a pitri shaap as well? Sun is aspected by Saturn, Rahu and Mars. If not, why? (For those who do not have Rama's chart: Lagna: Cancer with Jupiter and Moon, Saturn in 4th in Libra, Rahu in 6th in Sagittarius, Mars in 7th in Capricorn, Venus in 9th in Pisces, Sun in 10th in Aries, Mercury in 11th in Taurus and Ketu in 12th in Gemini. AL and UL are in Sagittarius.) Christopher Reeve's chart has two curses. Since Saturn is linked to both of them, his fall of the horse and subsequent paralysis occurred in Saturn dasha. We were assigned to seek remedies for him. We were unanimous in feeling that a ugra rupa of Devi, like Kali, was the only remedy for him. His ishta is Venus, placed in Scorpio, and aspected only by Saturn (rashi drishti) from Cancer. Venus would imply Lakshmi. This is strengthened by the fact that Venus is in Libra in the 4th in Rashi. But some students felt that since Venus was in Scorpio it should be Chamunda. We need a clarification on that. His palana karta is Saturn in Cancer. Palana devata is usually Devi, so we opted for Kali. His BK is also Saturn. Saturn is thus linked to his ishta, palana devata and his BK. Saturn is the planet causing the fructification of both the curses in its dasha, while it was transiting his 8th house, forming kantaka from lagna and ardha-kantaka from Moon. (The Navamsa lagna is also in nidhanamsa with a pishacha badhak). Given all these indications everyone opted for Kali as the remedy. The question also arises, will propitiation of Mercury, in the form of worship of Vishnu, help? The second curse is the worst, with Mercury being the lord of dusthanas, and the cause of his paralysis. With best regards, Sarbani Best regards, Sarbani > > |Om Tat Sat|> http://www.varahamihira > >

May 27, 2003

|Hare Rama Krishna|

Dear Laxmi,

Have the cd's been released as mp3's yet? can we order them from SJC-website?

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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lakshmisyama

varahamihira

Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:01 PM

|Sri Varaha| Re: Moola dasaSJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses

Hare KrishnaDear Ramadas,This was explained by Sanjay and the group during the west coast USA annual conference last year- there are Cds for sale on the sjc web site titled "moola series" which discusses this chart of Christopher reeves and others .If you arent in usa soon you will beable to order the Mp3s from shailesh of that discussion if you are intersted.With best wishes,LakshmiP.S. the moola handout is located in the files section of this group if you want to downlaod it.varahamihira , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> SRI RAGHAVENDRAYA NAMAH OM KLIM KRISHNAAYA NAMAHDear Sarbaniji,Can you explain me about how to analyse Moola Dasa taking Christopher's case?With best regards,Ramadas Rao.> > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote:Dear Ramdasji and Chandrashekharji, Thank you very much for your inputs. We are talking of Moola Dasa here. Sanjayji had given us class notes on how to study curses and to study Moola Dasa along with it. It was a very specific exercise. We were following the steps as outlined by him. He had also given us pointers as to what else to look into charts when seeing curses, like the devatas, for example. So we were merely following the guideline, and hence did not look into vimshottari and Narayana dasas. Christopher Reeve, was paralysed from his neck downwards. So apart from his head, his whole body was in paralysis. Our notes explained, that Rahu cut off the head and Mercury signified nervous systems which resulted in paralysis from neck downwards. The event occurred in Saturn Moola Dasha, while Saturn was transiting the 8th house, Aquarius, causing Kantaka from Lagna and Ardha Kantaka from tha Moon. The Navamsa lagna is also in nidhanamsa. Saturn was the triggering planet as it was involved in both curses, but here we took the 2nd curse, that is involving Mercury, (as one primary curse operates) as that was the stronger curse. Best regards, Sarbani > Chandrashekhar [boxdel]> Sunday, May 25, 2003 2:14 AM> varahamihira > Re: |Sri Varaha| SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses> > Dear Sarbani,So Mars is still connected. Since the injuries would obviously lead to loss of profession and Mars afflicting Moon plus owning the 5tn and the 10th, I thought that Mars would be appropriate. Again Lord of the 6th Jupiter is placed in 10th indicating the connection of his decease with 10th house.Another reason was that in navamsha too Moon make a Gajakesari Yoga. Moon is also Lord of the Ascendant,whereas Mercury is in debilitation in Navamsha. In Natal Chart he is lord of the 12th in 3rd causing a VRY of sorts. I did not know exact nature of his injuries. I do not know, but in the chart attached by you, the Saturn Mahadasha starts in 2050. So I suppose you mean Saturn Mahadasha, what was the Mahadasha at the time of occurence of the accident and the Transit position of Mercury, Saturn, Mars and Jupiter then please?Chandrashekhar.- Sarbani Sarkar varahamihira Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:57 PMRE: |Sri Varaha| SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses> Dear Chandrashekharji, Reeve became paralysed from a spinal cord injury following a fall from a horse. Paralysis implies the nervous system, hence the choice for Mercury. If you see his chart, there are two curses, one in the 3rd and the other in the 5th house. In the 5th house, Mars and Saturn are afflicting Moon. In the third, Saturn and Rahu are afflicting Mercury, who is also lord of two dusthanas. The 3rd house curse is stronger. Saturn being the common factor in both curses, the fall occurred in Saturn dasha as I mentioned in the earlier post. Mercury caused the nervous system problem. Apparently he is now better. Here's what I found on the web: Since his injury six years ago, Reeve has regained the ability to move his right wrist, the fingers of his left hand, and his feet. He can now feel a pin prick on the majority of his body and can move some of his joints voluntarily. Best regards, Sarbani > Chandrashekhar [boxdel]> Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:29 AM> varahamihira > Re: |Sri Varaha| SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses> > Dear Sarbani,Would not Mars be appropriate? Saturn lord of the 8th is in 6/8 from 8th which is aspected by Mars the yogakaraka. Mars rules morrow(Majja) and if I am not mistaken Christopher has become paraplegic. Chandrashekhar.- Sarbani Sarkar SJC: Achyuta Gurukulam ; Varahamihira Friday, May 23, 2003 2:37 PM|Sri Varaha| SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses> Dear Sanjayji and other Gurus, (For those of you who may wonder why we don't put up our discussions on the list: we have class every Sunday as Shiv Pujan takes our classes. Prior to that Sanjayji used to take them. So our doubts get cleared in class itself. Once in a while when our teachers are absent, we are send notes and assignments by Sanjayji, in lieu of his absence. We then put up our questions on the list.) In last Sundays class we were given an assignment on curses and how to read evil yogas in a chart. The two examples that we had to work on was Christopher Reeve's and Sri Rama's charts. Those present were Rohini Purang, Uma Purang, Saroj Tomar, Gaurav Varma, Deepika Sanghi, Suneet Kumar, Prashant Narang, Eric and myself. We had a doubt regarding Rama's chart. Our class notes clearly stated that the graha drishti of at least two malefics were essential for a curse. Secondly, benefics which were being cursed, represented the person cursing. In Rama's chart Jupiter and Moon are being affected. Jupiter represents the curse of a Brahmin, in this case Maharshi Narada. Since Moon is conjoined Jupiter, it shows that the curse will be actualised through mother, that is Kaikeyai. But will Moon by itself also represent a second curse, a matri shaap, or Moon is only acting as a medium? Ideally Moon should also show a second curse, apart from executing Jupiter's curse. If so, then whose? Will there be a pitri shaap as well? Sun is aspected by Saturn, Rahu and Mars. If not, why? (For those who do not have Rama's chart: Lagna: Cancer with Jupiter and Moon, Saturn in 4th in Libra, Rahu in 6th in Sagittarius, Mars in 7th in Capricorn, Venus in 9th in Pisces, Sun in 10th in Aries, Mercury in 11th in Taurus and Ketu in 12th in Gemini. AL and UL are in Sagittarius.) Christopher Reeve's chart has two curses. Since Saturn is linked to both of them, his fall of the horse and subsequent paralysis occurred in Saturn dasha. We were assigned to seek remedies for him. We were unanimous in feeling that a ugra rupa of Devi, like Kali, was the only remedy for him. His ishta is Venus, placed in Scorpio, and aspected only by Saturn (rashi drishti) from Cancer. Venus would imply Lakshmi. This is strengthened by the fact that Venus is in Libra in the 4th in Rashi. But some students felt that since Venus was in Scorpio it should be Chamunda. We need a clarification on that. His palana karta is Saturn in Cancer. Palana devata is usually Devi, so we opted for Kali. His BK is also Saturn. Saturn is thus linked to his ishta, palana devata and his BK. Saturn is the planet causing the fructification of both the curses in its dasha, while it was transiting his 8th house, forming kantaka from lagna and ardha-kantaka from Moon. (The Navamsa lagna is also in nidhanamsa with a pishacha badhak). Given all these indications everyone opted for Kali as the remedy. The question also arises, will propitiation of Mercury, in the form of worship of Vishnu, help? The second curse is the worst, with Mercury being the lord of dusthanas, and the cause of his paralysis. With best regards, Sarbani Best regards, Sarbani > > |Om Tat Sat|> http://www.varahamihira > >