Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya || Respected Gurus & dear friends, In the May 11, 2003, meeting of SJC-Hyderabad, we tried to apply the TOB rectification techniques, know to us, on a chart (jhd file attached). This was a special meeting as 6 new members joined our study group. The known facts about the native, M Narsing Rao, are: Male: DOB - Aug. 11, 1965, 7-00pm (as reported), at Hyderabad Physique: Avg. height, now bulky, honest, well-mannered and dignified looks, leadership qualities; slightly hot-tempered; bad digestion - severe acidity; Parents: Both parents deceased: Mother - Jan 11, 1993, in a road accident; Father - Oct. 26, 2001 Siblings: One younger brother Marriage: love marriage, different sub-caste, initially opposed by both parents Children: Girl - July 31, 1986; Boy - July 3, 1986; followed by a conception - twins, boy & girl, lost due to an abortion following a small accident. Education: passed 10th Career: average, working in menial jobs, last - and present - one as a peon/ messenger . Shanmukha has compiled the discussion and made the following note. We request your comments and corrections and suggestions. We propose to continue this analysis with some other factors on this chart – and then to take up members charts in our next meeting, due on May 25, 2003. Regards & best wishes, Shailesh Analysis: RASI CHART (D-1): If we take 7:00 pm birth time, lagna comes to Aq, housing Saturn ® in its moola trikona. So, he is strong though he is debilitated in D-9 (He attains neecha bhanga, if we take Sc as D-9 Lagna). The co-lord Rahu placed in Ta, functionally exalted. These two planets Sat, Rahu may give dark complexion and curly hair. Sat® in his moola trikona indicates his traditional behaviour. Jupiter as malefic lord of 2nd, and 11th, also the natural karaka for elder coborns, is in Papa-kartari yoga and he is in inimical mercury's sign Gemini. Karaka for younger coborns Mars, is in 7th from his own sign Aries and is also lord of 3rd, aspected by rasi drishti of its dispositor Venus, Mer®, Rahu and Saturn indicate living coborns. 10H in Rasi chart is Sc housing Ketu, its lord Mars in Li ( 12 th from Sc) and Sat® powerful 10th aspect on Sc indicates only a menial job . The native is working as peon. Lord of 10th Mars in a airy sign aspected by its lord Venus and Mercury( Rasi Drishti) 5th & 8th lord. Mercury is a intellectual planet in a fiery sign indicate his communication skills. Jupiter, natural Karaka for Children is in fifth, cuasing Karako Bhava naasa, and 5H itself is under Papa kartari yoga indicates problems in children, which was really happened. So, Lagna in Rasi chart can be fixed as Aquarius. 4th House: Rahu is placed in 4H, indicating problems in education. In D-24, if we take Sc as lagna, then Karaka for education Mercury is placed in 12H,with 4H in Papa Kartari Yoga, again confirms indications from Rasi chart. Karaka for mother, Moon, placed in 12H also indicates problems to mother. In D-1 Moon is aspected by Rahu- Ketu axis rasi drishti indicate death of mother in Rahu dasa. Further points: Raja Yoga formed in 7th by Venus lord of 4th and 9th and Mercury, lord of 5th and 8th will fructify later stage in life as yoga formed in 7th house. As Jup, lord of UL placed in A7 Gemini, indicate Love marriage or marriage to a known person (COVA) . Moon is badly placed in most of the Varga Chakras. NAVAMSA (D-9): Navamsa lagna, with TOB at 7pm, is in Libra. The other options are: Virgo (-3 min), Scorpio(+ 8.5 min), Sagittarius(+19 min). With Li as D-9 lagna, Guru Mangal Yoga in D-9 itself gives martian capabilities in his Dharma and his inner behaviour, which is in contrary to the reality. Also Rahu in 9th aspecting Jupiter and Mars through his Graha drishti indicate sakthi Yoga. In reality he is very calm going person. 7H in Aries housing 4th & 5th lord Saturn®, 9th & 12th lord Mer®. As 5th lord Sat® in 7th may indicate LOVE marriage at early age due to Guru Mangala Yoga. This can be confirmed in Rasi chart also as Venus, Mer® posited in 7th house and Mer as 5th & 8th lord indicate Love and 7th lord Sun in 6th indicate problems in marriage. But for 8th lordship of Mer, there will be problems through-out in married life and for Saturn's 7th aspect drags the married life longer. Rahu placed in 9th in D-9 may indicate sudden marriage. But in D-9, basic complexion indicated by Li and Ju and Mars is quite contrary to the native's complexion. However, if we take Sc as D-9 lagna, 7H falls in Ta in papa kartari yoga and its lord Venus placed in Rahu-Ketu axis indicate both problems in marraige and dark complexion for both, husband and wife( due to RK axis on Venus). Therefore, we preferred Sc as Navamsa Lagna – TOB to be pushed by ATLEAST 8.5 minutes. CHILDREN D-7: It was recognized that the last pregnancy, resulting in an abortion of twins(boy+girl) was the most significant reference point. Reported TOB gives D7 lagna is Aq. With this, first child is indicated by 5th counted direct order which is Gemini, having influence of Ju and Su through placement,and its lord Mec® in Leo with Ket indicates male child due to exchange between Mer and Sun. But first child is girl. If we take Pi as D-7 lagna (TOB +11:40 min), 5th counted in reverse falls in Sc. Its lord Mars is in Li with Moon aspected by Ve, Ra, Ket and Mer, thereby indicating a female child. 2nd child is indicated by 7th house counted in reverse i.e. Virgo. Its lord, Mercury is conjuct with Ketu in a fiery male Leo indicate males issue (exchange between Sun and Mer). As Mercury is placed in Rahu ketu axis shows no further issues unless presence of strong jupiter aspect. 3rd issue is indicated by Leo, instead of Cancer as Gathi changes due to R-K Axis. Lord of Leo, Sun, is placed in a dual sign Gemini, conjuct with Ju - lord of two dual signs. There is Parivartana between Sun and Mercury (itself an indicator of twins and lord of dual signs) indicating twins. But this issue was aborted due to an accident shown by dispositor of Sun, Mercury aspected by Mars from Li. And Mer itself in Rahu Ketu axis. We can analyze the fate of this issue by taking Gemini as lagna of that issue. DASAMSA D-10: If Pi taken as D-10 lagna – rectified after the last step, 10H falls in Sag, housing Ketu and its lord Ju placed in Gemini with Rahu. This confirms the indications from Rasi chart. Mercury, significator of communication in 6th artha trikona indicates the his nature of job. Further A10 falls in Virgo shows his working environment as business(Virgo, software, accounts) and low profile(Saturn). CO- Borns D-3 : If we take Aq as D-3 lagna, elders indicated by 11th house Sag. Its lord Ju placed in Ge aspected by Rahu - Ketu Axis would indicate no elder siblings. Ju is also natural karaka for elder coborns. This can be confirmed if we take Ge as lagna in D-3 and analyze D-3 chart as if a natal chart. Karaka for younger co borns Mars placed in Li with Sat®, aspected by Moon, Mer indicate living younger co-borns. First younger co born indicated by Pi (Gathi changes due to Rahu - Ketu Axis). Its lord Ju placed in Ge aspected by Sun, Ket, Rahu indicate male. (Aspect of RKAxis on Ju already taken for elder co borns). 2nd co-born indicated by Ve placed in Aries aspected by Mer® may indicate again a male. 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Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya || Namaste Gurudev, I have pasted the original minutes of May 11 meeting at the bottom and the jhd file(original) is also attached. The Hyd group is anxiously looking forward to comments and advice. Regards & best wishes, Shailesh - Sanjay Rath varahamihira Wednesday, May 21, 2003 5:12 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| SJC-Hyd. Meeting on May 25, 2003 |brihaspatim varenyam| Dear Sailesh where are the old minutes of previous meeting. Send these minutes only to Varahamihira list -VA has too many posts and is for general public discussions on a topic. Add the jhd file also please ~ om tat sat ~ Yours truly, Sanjay Rath --------------------------- H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India +91-674-2436871 http://srath.com --------------------------- - Shailesh Chadha Sri Achyuta Group ; gjlist ; varahamihira ; vedic astrology Sunday, May 18, 2003 11:52 PM [vedic astrology] SJC-Hyd. Meeting on May 11, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya || Respected Gurus & dear friends, In the May 11, 2003, meeting of SJC-Hyderabad, we tried to apply the TOB rectification techniques, know to us, on a chart (jhd file attached). This was a special meeting as 6 new members joined our study group. The known facts about the native, M Narsing Rao, are: Male: DOB - Aug. 11, 1965, 7-00pm (as reported), at Hyderabad Physique: Avg. height, now bulky, honest, well-mannered and dignified looks, leadership qualities; slightly hot-tempered; bad digestion - severe acidity; Parents: Both parents deceased: Mother - Jan 11, 1993, in a road accident; Father - Oct. 26, 2001 Siblings: One younger brother Marriage: love marriage, different sub-caste, initially opposed by both parents Children: Girl - July 31, 1986; Boy - July 3, 1986; followed by a conception - twins, boy & girl, lost due to an abortion following a small accident. Education: passed 10th Career: average, working in menial jobs, last - and present - one as a peon/ messenger . Shanmukha has compiled the discussion and made the following note. We request your comments and corrections and suggestions. We propose to continue this analysis with some other factors on this chart – and then to take up members charts in our next meeting, due on May 25, 2003. Regards & best wishes, Shailesh Analysis: RASI CHART (D-1): If we take 7:00 pm birth time, lagna comes to Aq, housing Saturn ® in its moola trikona. So, he is strong though he is debilitated in D-9 (He attains neecha bhanga, if we take Sc as D-9 Lagna). The co-lord Rahu placed in Ta, functionally exalted. These two planets Sat, Rahu may give dark complexion and curly hair. Sat® in his moola trikona indicates his traditional behaviour. Jupiter as malefic lord of 2nd, and 11th, also the natural karaka for elder coborns, is in Papa-kartari yoga and he is in inimical mercury's sign Gemini. Karaka for younger coborns Mars, is in 7th from his own sign Aries and is also lord of 3rd, aspected by rasi drishti of its dispositor Venus, Mer®, Rahu and Saturn indicate living coborns. 10H in Rasi chart is Sc housing Ketu, its lord Mars in Li ( 12 th from Sc) and Sat® powerful 10th aspect on Sc indicates only a menial job . The native is working as peon. Lord of 10th Mars in a airy sign aspected by its lord Venus and Mercury( Rasi Drishti) 5th & 8th lord. Mercury is a intellectual planet in a fiery sign indicate his communication skills. Jupiter, natural Karaka for Children is in fifth, cuasing Karako Bhava naasa, and 5H itself is under Papa kartari yoga indicates problems in children, which was really happened. So, Lagna in Rasi chart can be fixed as Aquarius. 4th House: Rahu is placed in 4H, indicating problems in education. In D-24, if we take Sc as lagna, then Karaka for education Mercury is placed in 12H,with 4H in Papa Kartari Yoga, again confirms indications from Rasi chart. Karaka for mother, Moon, placed in 12H also indicates problems to mother. In D-1 Moon is aspected by Rahu- Ketu axis rasi drishti indicate death of mother in Rahu dasa. Further points: Raja Yoga formed in 7th by Venus lord of 4th and 9th and Mercury, lord of 5th and 8th will fructify later stage in life as yoga formed in 7th house. As Jup, lord of UL placed in A7 Gemini, indicate Love marriage or marriage to a known person (COVA) . Moon is badly placed in most of the Varga Chakras. NAVAMSA (D-9): Navamsa lagna, with TOB at 7pm, is in Libra. The other options are: Virgo (-3 min), Scorpio(+ 8.5 min), Sagittarius(+19 min). With Li as D-9 lagna, Guru Mangal Yoga in D-9 itself gives martian capabilities in his Dharma and his inner behaviour, which is in contrary to the reality. Also Rahu in 9th aspecting Jupiter and Mars through his Graha drishti indicate sakthi Yoga. In reality he is very calm going person. 7H in Aries housing 4th & 5th lord Saturn®, 9th & 12th lord Mer®. As 5th lord Sat® in 7th may indicate LOVE marriage at early age due to Guru Mangala Yoga. This can be confirmed in Rasi chart also as Venus, Mer® posited in 7th house and Mer as 5th & 8th lord indicate Love and 7th lord Sun in 6th indicate problems in marriage. But for 8th lordship of Mer, there will be problems through-out in married life and for Saturn's 7th aspect drags the married life longer. Rahu placed in 9th in D-9 may indicate sudden marriage. But in D-9, basic complexion indicated by Li and Ju and Mars is quite contrary to the native's complexion. However, if we take Sc as D-9 lagna, 7H falls in Ta in papa kartari yoga and its lord Venus placed in Rahu-Ketu axis indicate both problems in marraige and dark complexion for both, husband and wife( due to RK axis on Venus). Therefore, we preferred Sc as Navamsa Lagna – TOB to be pushed by ATLEAST 8.5 minutes. CHILDREN D-7: It was recognized that the last pregnancy, resulting in an abortion of twins(boy+girl) was the most significant reference point. Reported TOB gives D7 lagna is Aq. With this, first child is indicated by 5th counted direct order which is Gemini, having influence of Ju and Su through placement,and its lord Mec® in Leo with Ket indicates male child due to exchange between Mer and Sun. But first child is girl. If we take Pi as D-7 lagna (TOB +11:40 min), 5th counted in reverse falls in Sc. Its lord Mars is in Li with Moon aspected by Ve, Ra, Ket and Mer, thereby indicating a female child. 2nd child is indicated by 7th house counted in reverse i.e. Virgo. Its lord, Mercury is conjuct with Ketu in a fiery male Leo indicate males issue (exchange between Sun and Mer). As Mercury is placed in Rahu ketu axis shows no further issues unless presence of strong jupiter aspect. 3rd issue is indicated by Leo, instead of Cancer as Gathi changes due to R-K Axis. Lord of Leo, Sun, is placed in a dual sign Gemini, conjuct with Ju - lord of two dual signs. There is Parivartana between Sun and Mercury (itself an indicator of twins and lord of dual signs) indicating twins. But this issue was aborted due to an accident shown by dispositor of Sun, Mercury aspected by Mars from Li. And Mer itself in Rahu Ketu axis. We can analyze the fate of this issue by taking Gemini as lagna of that issue. DASAMSA D-10: If Pi taken as D-10 lagna – rectified after the last step, 10H falls in Sag, housing Ketu and its lord Ju placed in Gemini with Rahu. This confirms the indications from Rasi chart. Mercury, significator of communication in 6th artha trikona indicates the his nature of job. Further A10 falls in Virgo shows his working environment as business(Virgo, software, accounts) and low profile(Saturn). CO- Borns D-3 : If we take Aq as D-3 lagna, elders indicated by 11th house Sag. Its lord Ju placed in Ge aspected by Rahu - Ketu Axis would indicate no elder siblings. Ju is also natural karaka for elder coborns. This can be confirmed if we take Ge as lagna in D-3 and analyze D-3 chart as if a natal chart. Karaka for younger co borns Mars placed in Li with Sat®, aspected by Moon, Mer indicate living younger co-borns. First younger co born indicated by Pi (Gathi changes due to Rahu - Ketu Axis). Its lord Ju placed in Ge aspected by Sun, Ket, Rahu indicate male. (Aspect of RKAxis on Ju already taken for elder co borns). 2nd co-born indicated by Ve placed in Aries aspected by Mer® may indicate again a male. But, there is only one co-born, younger to the native. --- --- File has not been scanned Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release 5/6/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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