|Sri Varaha| SJC-Hyd. Meeting on May 11, 2003

May 21, 2003

|| Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||

Dear Naaraayana,

Thanks for responding - especially when you are so busy with forthcoming US confreneces.

Yes - you are right about the typo. The second child, boy, was born on 3 July 1988.

I am not sure about the date of marriage - I think it was in 84-85. I will be able to confirm it tomorrow & shall post it.

The man is working for a small IT services company, on and off since 1986 or so.

Looking out for your response/ comments.

Regards & best wishes,

Shailesh

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"naaraayana_iyer" <narayan

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 7:44 PM

|Sri Varaha| Re: SJC-Hyd. Meeting on May 11, 2003

> Om Gam Glaum Ganapathaye Vighnavinaashine Svaaha ||> > Dear Shailesh,> > Got your message. I am working on the chart ... and will provide > feedback before your next meeting. Could you please clarify the > following:> > 1. When did he get married?> 2. You wrote the following, I think there is a typo:> Children: Girl - July 31, 1986; Boy - July 3, 1986; > 3. What kind of organization is he working for ... is it a Bank???> If not please clarify.> > Thanks> Narayan> > varahamihira , "Shailesh Chadha" <scc@s...> > wrote:> > || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||> > > > > > > > Respected Gurus & dear friends,> > > > In the May 11, 2003, meeting of SJC-Hyderabad, we tried to apply > the TOB rectification techniques, know to us, on a chart (jhd file > attached).> > > > This was a special meeting as 6 new members joined our study group.> > > > The known facts about the native, M Narsing Rao, are:> > > > Male: DOB - Aug. 11, 1965, 7-00pm (as reported), at Hyderabad> > > > Physique: Avg. height, now bulky, honest, well-mannered and > dignified looks, leadership qualities; slightly hot-tempered; bad > digestion - severe acidity;> > > > Parents: Both parents deceased: Mother - Jan 11, 1993, in a road > accident; Father - Oct. 26, 2001> > > > Siblings: One younger brother> > > > Marriage: love marriage, different sub-caste, initially opposed by > both parents> > > > Children: Girl - July 31, 1986; Boy - July 3, 1986; followed by a > conception - twins, boy & girl, lost due to an abortion following a > small accident.> > > > Education: passed 10th> > > > Career: average, working in menial jobs, last - and present - one > as a peon/ messenger .> > > > Shanmukha has compiled the discussion and made the following note.> > > > We request your comments and corrections and suggestions.> > > > We propose to continue this analysis with some other factors on > this chart - and then to take up members charts in our next meeting, > due on May 25, 2003.> > > > Regards & best wishes,> > > > Shailesh> > Analysis: > > > > RASI CHART (D-1): > > > > If we take 7:00 pm birth time, lagna comes to Aq, housing Saturn > ® in its moola trikona. So, he is strong though he is debilitated > in D-9 (He attains neecha bhanga, if we take Sc as D-9 Lagna). > > > > The co-lord Rahu placed in Ta, functionally exalted. > > > > These two planets Sat, Rahu may give dark complexion and curly > hair. > > > > Sat® in his moola trikona indicates his traditional behaviour. > > > > Jupiter as malefic lord of 2nd, and 11th, also the natural karaka > for elder coborns, is in Papa-kartari yoga and he is in inimical > mercury's sign Gemini. > > > > Karaka for younger coborns Mars, is in 7th from his own sign Aries > and is also lord of 3rd, aspected by rasi drishti of its dispositor > Venus, Mer®, Rahu and Saturn indicate living coborns.> > > > 10H in Rasi chart is Sc housing Ketu, its lord Mars in Li ( 12 th > from Sc) and Sat® powerful 10th aspect on Sc indicates only a > menial job . The native is working as peon. > > > > Lord of 10th Mars in a airy sign aspected by its lord Venus and > Mercury( Rasi Drishti) 5th & 8th lord. > > > > Mercury is a intellectual planet in a fiery sign indicate his > communication skills.> > > > Jupiter, natural Karaka for Children is in fifth, cuasing Karako > Bhava naasa, and 5H itself is under Papa kartari yoga indicates > problems in children, which was really happened. So, Lagna in Rasi > chart can be fixed as Aquarius.> > > > 4th House: Rahu is placed in 4H, indicating problems in > education. In D-24, if we take Sc as lagna, then Karaka for education > Mercury is placed in 12H,with 4H in Papa Kartari Yoga, again confirms > indications from Rasi chart.> > > > Karaka for mother, Moon, placed in 12H also indicates problems to > mother. > > > > In D-1 Moon is aspected by Rahu- Ketu axis rasi drishti indicate > death of mother in Rahu dasa. > > > > Further points: > > > > Raja Yoga formed in 7th by Venus lord of 4th and 9th and Mercury, > lord of 5th and 8th will fructify later stage in life as yoga formed > in 7th house. > > > > As Jup, lord of UL placed in A7 Gemini, indicate Love marriage or > marriage to a known person (COVA) . > > > > Moon is badly placed in most of the Varga Chakras.> > > > > > > > NAVAMSA (D-9):> > > > Navamsa lagna, with TOB at 7pm, is in Libra. > > > > The other options are: Virgo (-3 min), Scorpio(+ 8.5 min), > Sagittarius(+19 min). > > > > With Li as D-9 lagna, Guru Mangal Yoga in D-9 itself gives martian > capabilities in his Dharma and his inner behaviour, which is in > contrary to the reality. Also Rahu in 9th aspecting Jupiter and Mars > through his Graha drishti indicate sakthi Yoga. In reality he is very > calm going person. > > > > 7H in Aries housing 4th & 5th lord Saturn®, 9th & 12th lord Mer> ®. As 5th lord Sat® in 7th may indicate LOVE marriage at early > age due to Guru Mangala Yoga. This can be confirmed in Rasi chart > also as Venus, Mer® posited in 7th house and Mer as 5th & 8th lord > indicate Love and 7th lord Sun in 6th indicate problems in marriage. > > > > But for 8th lordship of Mer, there will be problems through-out in > married life and for Saturn's 7th aspect drags the married life > longer. Rahu placed in 9th in D-9 may indicate sudden marriage.> > > > But in D-9, basic complexion indicated by Li and Ju and Mars is > quite contrary to the native's complexion. > > > > However, if we take Sc as D-9 lagna, 7H falls in Ta in papa kartari > yoga and its lord Venus placed in Rahu-Ketu axis indicate both > problems in marraige and dark complexion for both, husband and wife( > due to RK axis on Venus). > > > > Therefore, we preferred Sc as Navamsa Lagna - TOB to be pushed by > ATLEAST 8.5 minutes.> > > > > > > > CHILDREN D-7: > > > > It was recognized that the last pregnancy, resulting in an abortion > of twins(boy+girl) was the most significant reference point.> > > > Reported TOB gives D7 lagna is Aq. > > > > With this, first child is indicated by 5th counted direct order > which is Gemini, having influence of Ju and Su through placement,and > its lord Mec® in Leo with Ket indicates male child due to exchange > between Mer and Sun. > > > > But first child is girl. > > > > If we take Pi as D-7 lagna (TOB +11:40 min), 5th counted in reverse > falls in Sc. Its lord Mars is in Li with Moon aspected by Ve, Ra, Ket > and Mer, thereby indicating a female child. > > > > 2nd child is indicated by 7th house counted in reverse i.e. Virgo. > Its lord, Mercury is conjuct with Ketu in a fiery male Leo indicate > males issue (exchange between Sun and Mer). > > > > As Mercury is placed in Rahu ketu axis shows no further issues > unless presence of strong jupiter aspect. > > > > 3rd issue is indicated by Leo, instead of Cancer as Gathi changes > due to R-K Axis. > > > > Lord of Leo, Sun, is placed in a dual sign Gemini, conjuct with Ju -> lord of two dual signs. There is Parivartana between Sun and Mercury > (itself an indicator of twins and lord of dual signs) indicating > twins. > > > > But this issue was aborted due to an accident shown by dispositor > of Sun, Mercury aspected by Mars from Li. > > > > And Mer itself in Rahu Ketu axis. > > > > We can analyze the fate of this issue by taking Gemini as lagna of > that issue.> > > > > > > > DASAMSA D-10: > > > > If Pi taken as D-10 lagna - rectified after the last step, 10H > falls in Sag, housing Ketu and its lord Ju placed in Gemini with > Rahu. > > > > This confirms the indications from Rasi chart. Mercury, > significator of communication in 6th artha trikona indicates the his > nature of job. > > > > Further A10 falls in Virgo shows his working environment as business> (Virgo, software, accounts) and low profile(Saturn).> > > > > > > > CO- Borns D-3 :> > > > If we take Aq as D-3 lagna, elders indicated by 11th house Sag. Its > lord Ju placed in Ge aspected by Rahu - Ketu Axis would indicate no > elder siblings. > > > > Ju is also natural karaka for elder coborns. This can be confirmed > if we take Ge as lagna in D-3 and analyze D-3 chart as if a natal > chart. > > > > Karaka for younger co borns Mars placed in Li with Sat®, aspected > by Moon, Mer indicate living younger co-borns. > > > > First younger co born indicated by Pi (Gathi changes due to Rahu - > Ketu Axis). Its lord Ju placed in Ge aspected by Sun, Ket, Rahu > indicate male. (Aspect of RKAxis on Ju already taken for elder co > borns). > > > > 2nd co-born indicated by Ve placed in Aries aspected by Mer® may > indicate again a male. > > > > But, there is only one co-born, younger to the native.> > > > > > ---> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).> > Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release 5/6/2003> > > > > > ---> > > > File has not been scanned > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).> > Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release 5/6/2003> > >

May 23, 2003

|| Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||

Dear Naaraayana,

The native got married on Nov. 29, 1985.

He belongs to agriculturist family - both parents worked as gardners for livelyhood.

Looking out for your response/ comments.

Regards & best wishes,

Shailesh

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Shailesh Chadha

varahamihira

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 9:30 PM

Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: SJC-Hyd. Meeting on May 11, 2003

|| Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||

Dear Naaraayana,

Thanks for responding - especially when you are so busy with forthcoming US confreneces.

Yes - you are right about the typo. The second child, boy, was born on 3 July 1988.

I am not sure about the date of marriage - I think it was in 84-85. I will be able to confirm it tomorrow & shall post it.

The man is working for a small IT services company, on and off since 1986 or so.

Looking out for your response/ comments.

Regards & best wishes,

Shailesh

-

"naaraayana_iyer" <narayan

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 7:44 PM

|Sri Varaha| Re: SJC-Hyd. Meeting on May 11, 2003

> Om Gam Glaum Ganapathaye Vighnavinaashine Svaaha ||> > Dear Shailesh,> > Got your message. I am working on the chart ... and will provide > feedback before your next meeting. Could you please clarify the > following:> > 1. When did he get married?> 2. You wrote the following, I think there is a typo:> Children: Girl - July 31, 1986; Boy - July 3, 1986; > 3. What kind of organization is he working for ... is it a Bank???> If not please clarify.> > Thanks> Narayan> > varahamihira , "Shailesh Chadha" <scc@s...> > wrote:> > || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||> > > > > > > > Respected Gurus & dear friends,> > > > In the May 11, 2003, meeting of SJC-Hyderabad, we tried to apply > the TOB rectification techniques, know to us, on a chart (jhd file > attached).> > > > This was a special meeting as 6 new members joined our study group.> > > > The known facts about the native, M Narsing Rao, are:> > > > Male: DOB - Aug. 11, 1965, 7-00pm (as reported), at Hyderabad> > > > Physique: Avg. height, now bulky, honest, well-mannered and > dignified looks, leadership qualities; slightly hot-tempered; bad > digestion - severe acidity;> > > > Parents: Both parents deceased: Mother - Jan 11, 1993, in a road > accident; Father - Oct. 26, 2001> > > > Siblings: One younger brother> > > > Marriage: love marriage, different sub-caste, initially opposed by > both parents> > > > Children: Girl - July 31, 1986; Boy - July 3, 1986; followed by a > conception - twins, boy & girl, lost due to an abortion following a > small accident.> > > > Education: passed 10th> > > > Career: average, working in menial jobs, last - and present - one > as a peon/ messenger .> > > > Shanmukha has compiled the discussion and made the following note.> > > > We request your comments and corrections and suggestions.> > > > We propose to continue this analysis with some other factors on > this chart - and then to take up members charts in our next meeting, > due on May 25, 2003.> > > > Regards & best wishes,> > > > Shailesh> > Analysis: > > > > RASI CHART (D-1): > > > > If we take 7:00 pm birth time, lagna comes to Aq, housing Saturn > ® in its moola trikona. So, he is strong though he is debilitated > in D-9 (He attains neecha bhanga, if we take Sc as D-9 Lagna). > > > > The co-lord Rahu placed in Ta, functionally exalted. > > > > These two planets Sat, Rahu may give dark complexion and curly > hair. > > > > Sat® in his moola trikona indicates his traditional behaviour. > > > > Jupiter as malefic lord of 2nd, and 11th, also the natural karaka > for elder coborns, is in Papa-kartari yoga and he is in inimical > mercury's sign Gemini. > > > > Karaka for younger coborns Mars, is in 7th from his own sign Aries > and is also lord of 3rd, aspected by rasi drishti of its dispositor > Venus, Mer®, Rahu and Saturn indicate living coborns.> > > > 10H in Rasi chart is Sc housing Ketu, its lord Mars in Li ( 12 th > from Sc) and Sat® powerful 10th aspect on Sc indicates only a > menial job . The native is working as peon. > > > > Lord of 10th Mars in a airy sign aspected by its lord Venus and > Mercury( Rasi Drishti) 5th & 8th lord. > > > > Mercury is a intellectual planet in a fiery sign indicate his > communication skills.> > > > Jupiter, natural Karaka for Children is in fifth, cuasing Karako > Bhava naasa, and 5H itself is under Papa kartari yoga indicates > problems in children, which was really happened. So, Lagna in Rasi > chart can be fixed as Aquarius.> > > > 4th House: Rahu is placed in 4H, indicating problems in > education. In D-24, if we take Sc as lagna, then Karaka for education > Mercury is placed in 12H,with 4H in Papa Kartari Yoga, again confirms > indications from Rasi chart.> > > > Karaka for mother, Moon, placed in 12H also indicates problems to > mother. > > > > In D-1 Moon is aspected by Rahu- Ketu axis rasi drishti indicate > death of mother in Rahu dasa. > > > > Further points: > > > > Raja Yoga formed in 7th by Venus lord of 4th and 9th and Mercury, > lord of 5th and 8th will fructify later stage in life as yoga formed > in 7th house. > > > > As Jup, lord of UL placed in A7 Gemini, indicate Love marriage or > marriage to a known person (COVA) . > > > > Moon is badly placed in most of the Varga Chakras.> > > > > > > > NAVAMSA (D-9):> > > > Navamsa lagna, with TOB at 7pm, is in Libra. > > > > The other options are: Virgo (-3 min), Scorpio(+ 8.5 min), > Sagittarius(+19 min). > > > > With Li as D-9 lagna, Guru Mangal Yoga in D-9 itself gives martian > capabilities in his Dharma and his inner behaviour, which is in > contrary to the reality. Also Rahu in 9th aspecting Jupiter and Mars > through his Graha drishti indicate sakthi Yoga. In reality he is very > calm going person. > > > > 7H in Aries housing 4th & 5th lord Saturn®, 9th & 12th lord Mer> ®. As 5th lord Sat® in 7th may indicate LOVE marriage at early > age due to Guru Mangala Yoga. This can be confirmed in Rasi chart > also as Venus, Mer® posited in 7th house and Mer as 5th & 8th lord > indicate Love and 7th lord Sun in 6th indicate problems in marriage. > > > > But for 8th lordship of Mer, there will be problems through-out in > married life and for Saturn's 7th aspect drags the married life > longer. Rahu placed in 9th in D-9 may indicate sudden marriage.> > > > But in D-9, basic complexion indicated by Li and Ju and Mars is > quite contrary to the native's complexion. > > > > However, if we take Sc as D-9 lagna, 7H falls in Ta in papa kartari > yoga and its lord Venus placed in Rahu-Ketu axis indicate both > problems in marraige and dark complexion for both, husband and wife( > due to RK axis on Venus). > > > > Therefore, we preferred Sc as Navamsa Lagna - TOB to be pushed by > ATLEAST 8.5 minutes.> > > > > > > > CHILDREN D-7: > > > > It was recognized that the last pregnancy, resulting in an abortion > of twins(boy+girl) was the most significant reference point.> > > > Reported TOB gives D7 lagna is Aq. > > > > With this, first child is indicated by 5th counted direct order > which is Gemini, having influence of Ju and Su through placement,and > its lord Mec® in Leo with Ket indicates male child due to exchange > between Mer and Sun. > > > > But first child is girl. > > > > If we take Pi as D-7 lagna (TOB +11:40 min), 5th counted in reverse > falls in Sc. Its lord Mars is in Li with Moon aspected by Ve, Ra, Ket > and Mer, thereby indicating a female child. > > > > 2nd child is indicated by 7th house counted in reverse i.e. Virgo. > Its lord, Mercury is conjuct with Ketu in a fiery male Leo indicate > males issue (exchange between Sun and Mer). > > > > As Mercury is placed in Rahu ketu axis shows no further issues > unless presence of strong jupiter aspect. > > > > 3rd issue is indicated by Leo, instead of Cancer as Gathi changes > due to R-K Axis. > > > > Lord of Leo, Sun, is placed in a dual sign Gemini, conjuct with Ju -> lord of two dual signs. There is Parivartana between Sun and Mercury > (itself an indicator of twins and lord of dual signs) indicating > twins. > > > > But this issue was aborted due to an accident shown by dispositor > of Sun, Mercury aspected by Mars from Li. > > > > And Mer itself in Rahu Ketu axis. > > > > We can analyze the fate of this issue by taking Gemini as lagna of > that issue.> > > > > > > > DASAMSA D-10: > > > > If Pi taken as D-10 lagna - rectified after the last step, 10H > falls in Sag, housing Ketu and its lord Ju placed in Gemini with > Rahu. > > > > This confirms the indications from Rasi chart. Mercury, > significator of communication in 6th artha trikona indicates the his > nature of job. > > > > Further A10 falls in Virgo shows his working environment as business> (Virgo, software, accounts) and low profile(Saturn).> > > > > > > > CO- Borns D-3 :> > > > If we take Aq as D-3 lagna, elders indicated by 11th house Sag. Its > lord Ju placed in Ge aspected by Rahu - Ketu Axis would indicate no > elder siblings. > > > > Ju is also natural karaka for elder coborns. This can be confirmed > if we take Ge as lagna in D-3 and analyze D-3 chart as if a natal > chart. > > > > Karaka for younger co borns Mars placed in Li with Sat®, aspected > by Moon, Mer indicate living younger co-borns. > > > > First younger co born indicated by Pi (Gathi changes due to Rahu - > Ketu Axis). Its lord Ju placed in Ge aspected by Sun, Ket, Rahu > indicate male. (Aspect of RKAxis on Ju already taken for elder co > borns). > > > > 2nd co-born indicated by Ve placed in Aries aspected by Mer® may > indicate again a male. > > > > But, there is only one co-born, younger to the native.> > > > > > ---> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).> > Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release 5/6/2003> > > > > > ---> > > > File has not been scanned > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).> > Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release 5/6/2003> > >