Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 |brihaspatim varenyam|Dear Mohan, JAI GURUDEV.Pujya Gurudeva Pranamas.I was trying to understand the system of Astaka Varga. In BPHS it is mentioned that for laymen, Astaka Varga can be a tool for arriving at quick but approximation delineations.[s.Rath:] The readings are very good if the use of astaka varga is understood properly. It is a quick glance at the charts and the overall impact of the star positions. It is useful for all purposes but does not take into account the yogas in the chart and other finer details like tithi and panchanga. I was wondering what could be the effectiveness if we try to arrive at predictions purely based on Astaka Varga system.[s.Rath:] Yes you can do this and the AV is an excellent tool for predictions. You can use the AV dasa for better results. I have seen people use Vimsottari dasa with this with some success, but a system should be applied properly and totally and then the results flow. In astaka varga system, nature of signs and its impact on the planets are not taken into consideration. In absence of any importance being given to signs, is it not more plausible to consider Bhava chart for all placement of planets instead of reckoning each sign as house?[s.Rath:] No that is not right. Importance is given to the nature of the sign, the direction of the signs and many other factors. We have not touched this as we want the focus to be on the core of Jyotish for the present. When the time comes the differences will be resolved and you will see its beauty unfold. I was hoping that K N Rao (to my knowledge the only man who fully understands the AV system) shall unfold this, but he is still keeing it under his belt. I will wait for some more time then take the initiative.Every dot has its importance...try understanding why the planets and lagna (do you use lagna?) give dots in certian positions. What is the meaning and theory behind this? It is evident again then that in Astaka varga, placement like Exaltation, Moolatrikona, etc. more reasonably omitted as these are exclusively pertains to signs and not houses. Having said this, I feel directional strength can be rendered much importance along with AV points.[s.Rath:] Definitely not. Just because something is not mentioned exclusively does not mean that it is omitted. Directions are crucial in AV no doubt. It is used in Vaastu shastra and that is what we shall consider in the US worshops this september. Would it be wise to consider then, the angular distance between house cusp and the planets?[s.Rath:] No, this is not a part of Vedic astrology. Could there be a missing link between the 8 petals of the kala chakra and the 8 variables of the AV...the lagna has come because of desire (Rahu)...think. Above are just my thoughts and could be wrong.Request to enlighten.Namra shishya,Mohan Hegde.[s.Rath:] Good thoughts. Keep it up.~ om tat sat ~Yours truly,Sanjay Rath---------------------------H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India+91-674-2436871 http://srath.com--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 Dear Guru Sanjay, I beg to differ on a statement. KN Rao maybe ONE of the authorities who has master of Ashtakavarga system. Krushnaji has been teaching this system for a long long time. His system is called Krushna's Ashtakavarga system of prediction and timing of events. You said " I was hoping that K N Rao (to my knowledge the only man who fully understands the AV system) shall unfold this, but he is still keeing it under his belt. " But you are right. This is a special system and it was not ment to have been taught but only passed on from father to son. But Krushnaji had taken the decision to teach it to anyone who wanted to learn it. This is for your information. Cheers !!! Ash varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <daivagyna@s...> wrote: > > > |brihaspatim varenyam| > Dear Mohan, > > > > JAI GURUDEV. > > Pujya Gurudeva Pranamas. > > I was trying to understand the system of Astaka Varga. In BPHS it is > mentioned that for laymen, Astaka Varga can be a tool for arriving > at quick but approximation delineations. > [s.Rath:] The readings are very good if the use of astaka varga is understood properly. It is a quick glance at the charts and the overall impact of the star positions. It is useful for all purposes but does not take into account the yogas in the chart and other finer details like tithi and panchanga. > > I was wondering what could be the effectiveness if we try to arrive > at predictions purely based on Astaka Varga system. > [s.Rath:] Yes you can do this and the AV is an excellent tool for predictions. You can use the AV dasa for better results. I have seen people use Vimsottari dasa with this with some success, but a system should be applied properly and totally and then the results flow. > > In astaka varga system, nature of signs and its impact on the planets > are not taken into consideration. In absence of any importance being > given to signs, is it not more plausible to consider Bhava chart for > all placement of planets instead of reckoning each sign as house? > [s.Rath:] No that is not right. Importance is given to the nature of the sign, the direction of the signs and many other factors. We have not touched this as we want the focus to be on the core of Jyotish for the present. When the time comes the differences will be resolved and you will see its beauty unfold. I was hoping that K N Rao (to my knowledge the only man who fully understands the AV system) shall unfold this, but he is still keeing it under his belt. I will wait for some more time then take the initiative. > Every dot has its importance...try understanding why the planets and lagna (do you use lagna?) give dots in certian positions. What is the meaning and theory behind this? > > It is evident again then that in Astaka varga, placement like > Exaltation, Moolatrikona, etc. more reasonably omitted as these are > exclusively pertains to signs and not houses. Having said this, I > feel directional strength can be rendered much importance along with > AV points. > [s.Rath:] Definitely not. Just because something is not mentioned exclusively does not mean that it is omitted. Directions are crucial in AV no doubt. It is used in Vaastu shastra and that is what we shall consider in the US worshops this september. > > Would it be wise to consider then, the angular distance between house > cusp and the planets? > [s.Rath:] No, this is not a part of Vedic astrology. Could there be a missing link between the 8 petals of the kala chakra and the 8 variables of the AV...the lagna has come because of desire (Rahu)...think. > > Above are just my thoughts and could be wrong. > Request to enlighten. > > Namra shishya, > > Mohan Hegde. > [s.Rath:] Good thoughts. Keep it up. > ~ om tat sat ~ > Yours truly, > Sanjay Rath > --------------------------- > H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > +91-674-2436871 http://srath.com > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 JAI GURUDEV. Pujya Gurudeva Pranamas. I am grateful for your explanation and encouragement. I will be looking forward for lesson on astaka varga. Mean while ponder around the clues given by you. Thanks and kind regards, Ever your namra shishya, Mohan hegde. - Sanjay Rath varahamihira Monday, June 23, 2003 10:05 AM RE: |Sri Varaha| Astaka Varga |brihaspatim varenyam| Dear Mohan, JAI GURUDEV.Pujya Gurudeva Pranamas.I was trying to understand the system of Astaka Varga. In BPHS it is mentioned that for laymen, Astaka Varga can be a tool for arriving at quick but approximation delineations.[s.Rath:] The readings are very good if the use of astaka varga is understood properly. It is a quick glance at the charts and the overall impact of the star positions. It is useful for all purposes but does not take into account the yogas in the chart and other finer details like tithi and panchanga. I was wondering what could be the effectiveness if we try to arrive at predictions purely based on Astaka Varga system.[s.Rath:] Yes you can do this and the AV is an excellent tool for predictions. You can use the AV dasa for better results. I have seen people use Vimsottari dasa with this with some success, but a system should be applied properly and totally and then the results flow. In astaka varga system, nature of signs and its impact on the planets are not taken into consideration. In absence of any importance being given to signs, is it not more plausible to consider Bhava chart for all placement of planets instead of reckoning each sign as house?[s.Rath:] No that is not right. Importance is given to the nature of the sign, the direction of the signs and many other factors. We have not touched this as we want the focus to be on the core of Jyotish for the present. When the time comes the differences will be resolved and you will see its beauty unfold. I was hoping that K N Rao (to my knowledge the only man who fully understands the AV system) shall unfold this, but he is still keeing it under his belt. I will wait for some more time then take the initiative. Every dot has its importance...try understanding why the planets and lagna (do you use lagna?) give dots in certian positions. What is the meaning and theory behind this? It is evident again then that in Astaka varga, placement like Exaltation, Moolatrikona, etc. more reasonably omitted as these are exclusively pertains to signs and not houses. Having said this, I feel directional strength can be rendered much importance along with AV points.[s.Rath:] Definitely not. Just because something is not mentioned exclusively does not mean that it is omitted. Directions are crucial in AV no doubt. It is used in Vaastu shastra and that is what we shall consider in the US worshops this september. Would it be wise to consider then, the angular distance between house cusp and the planets?[s.Rath:] No, this is not a part of Vedic astrology. Could there be a missing link between the 8 petals of the kala chakra and the 8 variables of the AV...the lagna has come because of desire (Rahu)...think. Above are just my thoughts and could be wrong.Request to enlighten.Namra shishya,Mohan Hegde.[s.Rath:] Good thoughts. Keep it up. ~ om tat sat ~ Yours truly, Sanjay Rath --------------------------- H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India +91-674-2436871 http://srath.com --------------------------- |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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