Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 Dear Ash, Read your mail on Krushnas' ashtaka varga system of prediction. I had a few comments of my own after reading your elaborate mail. The system apart, in terms of what you can predict using it, it is the person using the system that matters finally. So what is convincing to your understanding and analysis, needn't be a worthy idea for another person. In fact, when we refer to a particular system of learning and personal growth, it is indeed the persons' own internal nature which comes in play. So that there is not much to be gained by complaining about recognition etc., because at large, most people are less comfortable with numbers than the reasoning of stories associated with each of the planets and their functional effect in a particular placement. This they can relate to their real experience and feel it and live it. Further, the numbers could be a later development or systematisation (as referred to for the people of kali yuga). And as such the approach taken by sanjay is so much more natural and attractive to begin with and advance to living the astrology in ones' life. I feel that is the difference. regards, nitish --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Mohan, > Guru Sanjay has replied to your mail so I shall not > comment further > except for the points in Krushnas system that you > had not understood > and it may give the impression to the list members > here that there > is something wrong which is not so. I shall clarify > those points > and end the topic. Any further discussion on the > system that > Krushnaji is teaching we can take it on Krushnajis > list and not here > as it is not fair. > > I shall give my comments in CAPS. > > > > varahamihira , " Ankur " > <anmohiey@s...> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > My last mail did not come thru in full. The doubts > for which I > > requested did not appear. I am writing those > doubts below. > > > > I had got opportunities to study the write-ups > provided by Sri > > Krushna on his forum. I have observed you are > applying it very > > effectively and getting success. You have stated > that, theory > > enumerated by Krushna is very within the gamut of > Vedic astrology > > principles. How ever I have few aspects, which > needs > clarifications. > > ASH : ANY CLARIFICAIONS W.R.T KRUSHNAS SYSTEM WE CAN > TAKE IT ON > KRUSHNAJIS LIST. I DO NOT LIKE TO DISCUSS IN THIS > SPECIAL LIST OF > VARHARAMIHIRA. ITS NOT FAIR. BUT I SHALL REPLY AND > GIVE > CLARIFICATIONS ABOUT THESE QUESTIONS SO THAT I DO > NOT WANT THE LIST > MEMBERS TO GET A FEELING OTHERWISE. > > > > > 1. In all olden classics on Hindu astrology, > Saturn has been > > termed as manda and also signifies dullness. In > Krushna's theory, > > divisions of ascendant, Moon and Sun falling and > accompanied by > > Saturn' house/Saturn makes the native more > intelligent. I feel it > is > > contradictory to my otherwise understanding. > > ASH : OK HERE I SHALL SAY, THIS DISCUSSION HAS BEEN > HELD IN DETAIL > WITH EXPLANATIONS GIVEN BY KRUSHNAJI HIMSELF. ITS > IN THE ARCHIVES. > > NOW INSTEAD OF GOING INTO THE PHILOSOPHY I SHALL > GIVE IT AS A QBE > (QUERY BY EXAMPLE) TO STATE MY POINT. > > PLEASE TAKE THE CHARTS OF OUR GURU SANJAY. CAST HIS > CHART USING > KRUSHNAJI AYANSMA ONLY. YOU WILL FIND SHANI IN > NAVAMSA, DREKKHAN > AND TRIMSAMSA IN 2 SPOTS AND GURU IN 2 SPOTS AND > MARS IN 2 SPOTS. > YOU HAVE READ THE LESSON. > > NEXT TAKE THE CHART OF GURU NARASIMHA RAO, VERY > LEARNED PERSON AND > GURU AND CREATER OF JHL, STUDENT OF IIT ETC ETC I DO > NOT EVEN HAVE > TO GET INTO ALL THIS. PLEASE CAST HIS CHART USING > KRUSHNAS AYANSMA > AND YOU WILL FIND SHNAI IN 3 SPOTS IN NAVAMSA, > DREKKHAN AND > TRIMSAMSA. > > TAKE THE CHART OF DAS GORAVANI, CREATER OF GORVANI > JYOTISH SOFTWARE > AND A BRILLIANT MAN. CAST HIS CHART USING KRUSHNA > AYANSMA AND CHECK > YOU WILL FIND SHANI IN 4 SPOTS IN NAVAMSA, DREKKHAN > AND TRIMSAMSA IN > SHANIS DIVISIONS. > > TAKE THE CHART OF ALBERT EINSTIEN IN KRUSHNA'S > AYANSMA AND YOU CAN > GET HIS CHART OF VEDIC ASTROLOGY LIST IN THE FILE > SECTION THERE IS A > DATA OF ALL BIRTH CHARTS SO ITS VALID AND THAT CHART > IS PUT UP BY A > GURU OF SJC SO ITS AUTHENTIC. PLEASE CHECK HIS > CHART. WE ALL KNOW > OF HIS BRILLIANCE. IN HIS CHART YOU WILL FIND SHANI > IN 3 SPOTS IN > NAVAMSA, DREKKHANA AND TRIMSAMSA. > > NOW IF YOU CAN CALL THESE PEOPLE NOT BRILLIANT, I > HAVE NOTHING MORE > TO ADD. > > FOR DETAILS ON " WHY ? " THIS ALL HAS BEEN EXPLAINED > IN DETAIL ON THE > OTHER LIST. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS DIFFERENT > DOES NOT MAKE IT > WRONG. > > ANOTHER EXAMPLE, PLEASE TAKE SANJAY GURUS BOOK COVA. > GO TO CHAPTER > ON 7TH HOUSE AND TAKE ALL THE EXAMPLES GIVEN THERE. > CAST THOSE > CHARTS USING KRUSHNAS AYANAMSA AND CHECK FOR MOST OF > THE CHARTS WITH > EXTRA MARRITIAL AFFAIRS OR FAILED MARRIAGES ETC, > CHECK THE SUN TO > VENUS DISTANCE IT WILL BE GREATER THAN 43 DEGREES, > OR VENUS WILL BE > IN KRITTIKA, MULA OR JAYESHTA OR 6TH LORD WILL BE IN > 7TH HOUSE, OR > THEY WILL HAVE 3 ZEROES IN SAV OR GURU WILL BE IN > LIBRA ETC ETC > THESE LAWS ARE ALL GIVEN BY EVEN KRUSHNAJI AS > LESSONS WHEN STUDYING > A SYSTEM. > > MY POINT BEING THAT ITS JUST A DIFFERENT WAY OF > LOOKING AT A CHART > AND JUST BEING DIFFERENT DOES NOT MAKE IT WRONG. > > IF ONE FOCUSES ON THE " ENTIRE SYSTEM " AND NOT ONLY A > PART OF IT THEN > IT WILL START TO MAKE SENSE. > > I HOPE U ARE UNDERSTANDING THE POINT I AM TRYING TO > MAKE. > > > > > 2. It is stated in the lessons that any planet > having more than > > 4 BAV points in its natal position, shall aspect > the house with > > malefic effects. If such houses where the planet > shed its aspects, > if contains more than 4 points (in its BAV) then > still why the > aspect of > > the planet considered as malefic? Then do those > BAV points > > contributed by the particular planet not stands to > support the > planet for good cause? > > ASH : WE ARE ONLY TALKING OF GRAHA DRISTI HERE. NOW > IN KRUSHNAS > SYSTEM WE GET THE POWER OF THE SIGNIFICATOR TO > DELIVER RESULTS > DURING ITS ANTRA IN VIMSHOTTARI DASA FOR EACH AND > EVERY PLANET AND > FOR EACH AND EVERY HOUSE. THIS YOU CAN GET IN THE > WORKSHEET. > > FURTHER EXPLANATION TO YOUR EXAMPLE BELOW. > > > > > > > Let us consider planet with high points as Person > Rich and famous. > > The house being aspected by the planets as company > where in the > > person have got good chunk of shares, where he can > > > intervene/interfere with the business. Hence this > does not mean > the > > person always cause bad effect for the company. > Instead he can > have > > more influence in the affairs of the company > provided he enjoys > > supporters from other shareholders as well. > > > > > > THIS EXAMPLE WE SHALL TAKE. > > LETS BREAK THIS UP INTO 2 PARTS > > 1) GURU IN ASCENDENT WITH 7 BINDUS > === message truncated === SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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