|Sri Varaha| Exaltation and Debility: Still have doubts

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hamsa om soham

 

Dear Frank,

 

I hope you don't mind if I interject some thoughts.

 

> 1. Sun - makes sense for Aries - 1st house, and Karaka for Lagna,

> rising sign and east, health logivity, Agnitattva, etc.

> Aries is the Head of Narayan; ALso a Dharma House.

> Yet debility in Libra, I would think it would be the opposite

> of " head " and the " feet " or Pisces? PIsces is the natural rasi for

> moksha, yet the opposite of " head " and could apply for dibility of

> Surya, using this logic.

 

Surya wishes to teach us what is true so that we may instantly wake up and

be freed from the cycle of rebirth. He is the guru Shiva imparting gyana

yoga. In the kalapurusha scheme, Libra represents the reproductive organs,

which is essential to the cycle of birth. Libra is owned by Venus

(Sukracharya with the Sanjeevani mantra) which can prolong our maya-life.

These are precisely what Surya wishes to free us from, and he is debilitated

here in Libra. Saturn wants us to realize what is true by seeing the error

of our ways. This requires punishment....and causing us to be alive beyond

our allotted time seeing the impermanence/death of all we hold dear

(children, health, senility, material goods) is a grave punishment. Shani is

exalted in the rebirth-causing sign which endows long life. It makes sense

for Surya to be debilitated in an airy sign (prana sustains and extends our

maya laden life).

 

Humans are born head-first from the womb. i.e. the first thing to emerge is

our ego. Pisces is the sign of the maharishis and represents feet according

to the kalapurusha scheme. When Surya is in Pisces, it is like the native

laying his ego at the feet of the guru. This act of surrender directly leads

us to para vidya (Pisces - surrender & tapas, is followed by Aries -

rebirth of knowledge). How can Surya be debilitated in Pisces, when it leads

him directly to Aries?

 

ajit

 

> Debility in the 7th ( even though 180degrees from Aries) , owned by

> Venus and indicator of Sathoola and Sookshama does not make sense to

> me...yet we find Saturn exalted there, where we know Sani is also

> debilited in Aries.

> LIbra is Air Sign ( Vayu) and good for Sani, yet why is it not good

> for Surya, I would think a water sign would be it debility.

> 2. Guru - Exalted in the 4th ( Cn) and is A Moksha house... good

> place for Guru to do HIS work, to bring enlightenment yet his office

> is in Sagitarius, or a Dharma house. HE is at home obviouisly, yet

> is doing HIS work these...interesting?

>

> Like this, it is not that stright forward to see the aligment with

> the Graha's and their rasi positons for work, home, etc.

> If we can spend a few more minutes on this so I <and sisyas> can be

> well grounded in this I would appreciate it. If there is more I can

> read on this, I will be happy to puruse.

>

> Pranams,

> Frank in San Diego

>

> varahamihira , " Visti Larsen " <vishnu@l...>

> wrote:

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > Dear Ajit,

> > First we assign the various parts as signs, and these signs are

> defined as a form of the kaala purusha, as this actually tells us

> what the signs are trying to give us. Also refer to the explanation

> of the Dwadasa-aditya.

> > Next we can define the Nakshatra (mentality), Pada(ayana/goal) and

> Trimsamsa(??) to see the details about the graha's nature of

> exaltation, etc.

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

> > ---

> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > -

> > Ajit Krishnan

> >

> > varahamihira

> > Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:25 PM

> > Re: |Sri Varaha| Exaltation and Debility of Graha's

> >

> >

> > hamsa om soham

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > When exaltation, debilitation, moolatrikona and swakshetra are

> defined in terms of rasis (and not houses), does it not follow that

> the true reason for these assignments should also be in terms of

> rasis (and nakshatras, and padas, and degrees) alone?

> >

> > ajit

> > -

> > Visti Larsen

> > varahamihira

> > Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:31 AM

> > Re: |Sri Varaha| Exaltation and Debility of Graha's

> >

> >

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > Dear Frank,

> > This was discussed several times on other lists, where each

> planets dristi, and also their exaltation, moolatrikona and

> swakshetra and debilitation signs were discussed.

> >

> > The focal points are;

> > Exaltation : The planets place of greatest enjoyment.

> > Moolatrikona : The planets office, its dharma.

> > Swakshetra : The planets home, or where it feels like home and

> is satisfied.

> > Debilitation : The planets place of least enjoyment.

> >

> > Example for Moon:

> > Exaltation & Moolatrikona: Taurus is the natural 2nd house,

> and moon being the mother and sustainer of the universe finds her

> duty and greatest enjoyment here, just as a mother enjoys feeding

> her child.

> > Swakshetra: The Own sign of the Moon is the natural 4th -

> Cancer, where the mother feels literally at peace and at home.

> > Debilitation: Scorpio is the debilitation sign of the Moon and

> being the natural 8th house, is the place of Rudra, which is the

> opposite of sustenance - hence the Moon finds her least enjoyment

> here.

> >

> > In this mannor each planet is understood. Jupiter does not

> represent purity, planets represent a person or deva. The sign and

> house indicates the state and activity of the deva.

> >

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

> > ---

> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > -

> > fls999999999

> > varahamihira

> > Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:10 AM

> > |Sri Varaha| Exaltation and Debility of Graha's

> >

> >

> > Om Sri Rama Jai Jai Rama

> >

> >

> > Namaskr,

> >

> > Can some one assist.. I ask this question from time-to-time

> yet

> > have not yielded any clarity or response on this matter.

> >

> > To form a firm foundation as a sisya I need to understand

> why is a

> > Graha exalted or debilitated in any one sign? We use this

> every day

> > in a chart, yet do we ( I) do not fully comprehend why?

> >

> > Why is Surya exalted in Aries? If I read Sarvarth

> Chintamani the

> > author (Bhasinji) suggests that Surya falling in the first

> 10

> > degrees of Aries is in the Nakshatra of Ashvini , owned by

> Ketu.

> > Ketu is the Mokshakara , and Surya is the Atmakaraka,

> >

> > Hence ATMA in MOKSHA or the highest state atma can attain.

> > This makes sense. Yet, Ketu also owns other Nakshatera I

> would

> > think also favorable to the exaltation or Surya [ Leo,

> Sun's home,

> > or Sagittarius, owned by Guru, and what is the goal of Guru

> if not

> > the highest levels of Dharma yielding Moksha?]

> >

> > For Debilitation , I can see why Guru ( purity) is

> debilitated in

> > Capricorn, owned by Sani - with Sani owning dirt its

> covering the

> > purity of Guru forcing debility, yet why not in Aquarius

> where both

> > Rahu & Sani own the signand a double dose i.e.

> > Dirt and diabolical behavior from Rahu?

> >

> > So, what principles do I look to apply common sense? The

> Tattva of

> > the planets?

> > e.g. Agni, Vayu, Prthivi, Jala and Aksha, and how one may

> overwhelm

> > the other i.e. Water over fire? OR perhaps Shadripu weakness

> > comparisons?

> >

> > If some one can assist I would appreciate the help to form a

> solid

> > base of knowledge.

> >

> > Thank you,

> > Frank in San Diego

> >

> >

> >

> > |Om Tat Sat|

> > http://www.varahamihira

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

OM Rameshvara Namaha,

Dear Ajit...

Brilliant insight...every piece helps!!!

So, as I ponder this ( I think about this all the time)

I find it curious Sukra is exalted in Pisces then...

As Sukra owns libra , owner of the fluid for rebirth

and Sukracharya is there to prolong Life, what insight do

we have to reconcile Sukracharya's Exaltation in a Moksha house?

 

Other positions of the Graha's exaltation and debility I still

ponder and find no simple logic-process to rationalize why

one Rasi vs. another brings debility....I am not confused as

much as I want to undersand the key principles that bring out

the foundation of Jyotish.

I hope to address these one by one if I get the chance.

 

We have Surya defined...seems line sani should be next

as he is debilited in Aries, and exalted in Libra ( for longivity).

 

Pranams,

Frank in san diego

 

 

 

 

 

varahamihira , " Ajit Krishnan " <astro@m...>

wrote:

> hamsa om soham

>

> Dear Frank,

>

> I hope you don't mind if I interject some thoughts.

>

> > 1. Sun - makes sense for Aries - 1st house, and Karaka for Lagna,

> > rising sign and east, health logivity, Agnitattva, etc.

> > Aries is the Head of Narayan; ALso a Dharma House.

> > Yet debility in Libra, I would think it would be the opposite

> > of " head " and the " feet " or Pisces? PIsces is the natural rasi

for

> > moksha, yet the opposite of " head " and could apply for dibility

of

> > Surya, using this logic.

>

> Surya wishes to teach us what is true so that we may instantly

wake up and

> be freed from the cycle of rebirth. He is the guru Shiva imparting

gyana

> yoga. In the kalapurusha scheme, Libra represents the reproductive

organs,

> which is essential to the cycle of birth. Libra is owned by Venus

> (Sukracharya with the Sanjeevani mantra) which can prolong our

maya-life.

> These are precisely what Surya wishes to free us from, and he is

debilitated

> here in Libra. Saturn wants us to realize what is true by seeing

the error

> of our ways. This requires punishment....and causing us to be

alive beyond

> our allotted time seeing the impermanence/death of all we hold dear

> (children, health, senility, material goods) is a grave

punishment. Shani is

> exalted in the rebirth-causing sign which endows long life. It

makes sense

> for Surya to be debilitated in an airy sign (prana sustains and

extends our

> maya laden life).

>

> Humans are born head-first from the womb. i.e. the first thing to

emerge is

> our ego. Pisces is the sign of the maharishis and represents feet

according

> to the kalapurusha scheme. When Surya is in Pisces, it is like the

native

> laying his ego at the feet of the guru. This act of surrender

directly leads

> us to para vidya (Pisces - surrender & tapas, is followed by

Aries -

> rebirth of knowledge). How can Surya be debilitated in Pisces,

when it leads

> him directly to Aries?

>

> ajit

>

> > Debility in the 7th ( even though 180degrees from Aries) , owned

by

> > Venus and indicator of Sathoola and Sookshama does not make

sense to

> > me...yet we find Saturn exalted there, where we know Sani is also

> > debilited in Aries.

> > LIbra is Air Sign ( Vayu) and good for Sani, yet why is it not

good

> > for Surya, I would think a water sign would be it debility.

> > 2. Guru - Exalted in the 4th ( Cn) and is A Moksha house... good

> > place for Guru to do HIS work, to bring enlightenment yet his

office

> > is in Sagitarius, or a Dharma house. HE is at home obviouisly,

yet

> > is doing HIS work these...interesting?

> >

> > Like this, it is not that stright forward to see the aligment

with

> > the Graha's and their rasi positons for work, home, etc.

> > If we can spend a few more minutes on this so I <and sisyas> can

be

> > well grounded in this I would appreciate it. If there is more I

can

> > read on this, I will be happy to puruse.

> >

> > Pranams,

> > Frank in San Diego

> >

> > varahamihira , " Visti Larsen " <vishnu@l...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > > Dear Ajit,

> > > First we assign the various parts as signs, and these signs are

> > defined as a form of the kaala purusha, as this actually tells us

> > what the signs are trying to give us. Also refer to the

explanation

> > of the Dwadasa-aditya.

> > > Next we can define the Nakshatra (mentality), Pada(ayana/goal)

and

> > Trimsamsa(??) to see the details about the graha's nature of

> > exaltation, etc.

> > > Best wishes

> > > Visti

> > > ---

> > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > > -

> > > Ajit Krishnan

> > >

> > > varahamihira

> > > Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:25 PM

> > > Re: |Sri Varaha| Exaltation and Debility of Graha's

> > >

> > >

> > > hamsa om soham

> > >

> > > Dear Visti,

> > >

> > > When exaltation, debilitation, moolatrikona and swakshetra

are

> > defined in terms of rasis (and not houses), does it not follow

that

> > the true reason for these assignments should also be in terms of

> > rasis (and nakshatras, and padas, and degrees) alone?

> > >

> > > ajit

> > > -

> > > Visti Larsen

> > > varahamihira

> > > Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:31 AM

> > > Re: |Sri Varaha| Exaltation and Debility of

Graha's

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > > Dear Frank,

> > > This was discussed several times on other lists, where each

> > planets dristi, and also their exaltation, moolatrikona and

> > swakshetra and debilitation signs were discussed.

> > >

> > > The focal points are;

> > > Exaltation : The planets place of greatest enjoyment.

> > > Moolatrikona : The planets office, its dharma.

> > > Swakshetra : The planets home, or where it feels like home

and

> > is satisfied.

> > > Debilitation : The planets place of least enjoyment.

> > >

> > > Example for Moon:

> > > Exaltation & Moolatrikona: Taurus is the natural 2nd house,

> > and moon being the mother and sustainer of the universe finds her

> > duty and greatest enjoyment here, just as a mother enjoys feeding

> > her child.

> > > Swakshetra: The Own sign of the Moon is the natural 4th -

> > Cancer, where the mother feels literally at peace and at home.

> > > Debilitation: Scorpio is the debilitation sign of the Moon

and

> > being the natural 8th house, is the place of Rudra, which is the

> > opposite of sustenance - hence the Moon finds her least enjoyment

> > here.

> > >

> > > In this mannor each planet is understood. Jupiter does not

> > represent purity, planets represent a person or deva. The sign

and

> > house indicates the state and activity of the deva.

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > > Visti

> > > ---

> > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > > -

> > > fls999999999

> > > varahamihira

> > > Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:10 AM

> > > |Sri Varaha| Exaltation and Debility of Graha's

> > >

> > >

> > > Om Sri Rama Jai Jai Rama

> > >

> > >

> > > Namaskr,

> > >

> > > Can some one assist.. I ask this question from time-to-

time

> > yet

> > > have not yielded any clarity or response on this matter.

> > >

> > > To form a firm foundation as a sisya I need to understand

> > why is a

> > > Graha exalted or debilitated in any one sign? We use this

> > every day

> > > in a chart, yet do we ( I) do not fully comprehend why?

> > >

> > > Why is Surya exalted in Aries? If I read Sarvarth

> > Chintamani the

> > > author (Bhasinji) suggests that Surya falling in the

first

> > 10

> > > degrees of Aries is in the Nakshatra of Ashvini ,

owned by

> > Ketu.

> > > Ketu is the Mokshakara , and Surya is the Atmakaraka,

> > >

> > > Hence ATMA in MOKSHA or the highest state atma can

attain.

> > > This makes sense. Yet, Ketu also owns other Nakshatera I

> > would

> > > think also favorable to the exaltation or Surya [ Leo,

> > Sun's home,

> > > or Sagittarius, owned by Guru, and what is the goal of

Guru

> > if not

> > > the highest levels of Dharma yielding Moksha?]

> > >

> > > For Debilitation , I can see why Guru ( purity) is

> > debilitated in

> > > Capricorn, owned by Sani - with Sani owning dirt its

> > covering the

> > > purity of Guru forcing debility, yet why not in Aquarius

> > where both

> > > Rahu & Sani own the signand a double dose i.e.

> > > Dirt and diabolical behavior from Rahu?

> > >

> > > So, what principles do I look to apply common sense? The

> > Tattva of

> > > the planets?

> > > e.g. Agni, Vayu, Prthivi, Jala and Aksha, and how one may

> > overwhelm

> > > the other i.e. Water over fire? OR perhaps Shadripu

weakness

> > > comparisons?

> > >

> > > If some one can assist I would appreciate the help to

form a

> > solid

> > > base of knowledge.

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > > Frank in San Diego

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > |Om Tat Sat|

> > > http://www.varahamihira

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Frank,

Pisces is 12th house in natural Horoscope. 12th house is also called

Shayan sthana(Hous of bed pleasures). Venus rules Veerya(Sperm), so the

connection should be clear. Hope you will pardon for my intrusion.

Chandrashekhar.

 

fls999999999 wrote:

 

OM Rameshvara Namaha,

Dear Ajit...

Brilliant insight...every piece helps!!!

So, as I ponder this ( I think about this all the time)

I find it curious Sukra is exalted in Pisces then...

As Sukra owns libra , owner of the fluid for rebirth

and Sukracharya is there to prolong Life, what insight do

we have to reconcile Sukracharya's Exaltation in a Moksha house?

 

Other positions of the Graha's exaltation and debility I still

ponder and find no simple logic-process to rationalize why

one Rasi vs. another brings debility....I am not confused as

much as I want to undersand the key principles that bring out

the foundation of Jyotish.

I hope to address these one by one if I get the chance.

 

We have Surya defined...seems line sani should be next

as he is debilited in Aries, and exalted in Libra ( for longivity).

 

Pranams,

Frank in san diego

 

 

 

 

 

varahamihira , "Ajit Krishnan" <astro@m...>

 

wrote:

> hamsa om soham

>

> Dear Frank,

>

> I hope you don't mind if I interject some thoughts.

>

> > 1. Sun - makes sense for Aries - 1st house, and Karaka for

Lagna,

> > rising sign and east, health logivity, Agnitattva, etc.

> > Aries is the Head of Narayan; ALso a Dharma House.

> > Yet debility in Libra, I would think it would be the opposite

> > of "head" and the "feet" or Pisces? PIsces is the natural

rasi

for

> > moksha, yet the opposite of "head" and could apply for

dibility

of

> > Surya, using this logic.

>

> Surya wishes to teach us what is true so that we may instantly

wake up and

> be freed from the cycle of rebirth. He is the guru Shiva imparting

 

gyana

> yoga. In the kalapurusha scheme, Libra represents the reproductive

 

organs,

> which is essential to the cycle of birth. Libra is owned by Venus

> (Sukracharya with the Sanjeevani mantra) which can prolong our

maya-life.

> These are precisely what Surya wishes to free us from, and he is

debilitated

> here in Libra. Saturn wants us to realize what is true by seeing

the error

> of our ways. This requires punishment....and causing us to be

alive beyond

> our allotted time seeing the impermanence/death of all we hold dear

> (children, health, senility, material goods) is a grave

punishment. Shani is

> exalted in the rebirth-causing sign which endows long life. It

makes sense

> for Surya to be debilitated in an airy sign (prana sustains and

extends our

> maya laden life).

>

> Humans are born head-first from the womb. i.e. the first thing to

emerge is

> our ego. Pisces is the sign of the maharishis and represents feet

according

> to the kalapurusha scheme. When Surya is in Pisces, it is like the

 

native

> laying his ego at the feet of the guru. This act of surrender

directly leads

> us to para vidya (Pisces - surrender & tapas, is followed by

Aries -

> rebirth of knowledge). How can Surya be debilitated in Pisces,

when it leads

> him directly to Aries?

>

> ajit

>

> > Debility in the 7th ( even though 180degrees from Aries) ,

owned

by

> > Venus and indicator of Sathoola and Sookshama does not make

sense to

> > me...yet we find Saturn exalted there, where we know Sani is

also

> > debilited in Aries.

> > LIbra is Air Sign ( Vayu) and good for Sani, yet why is it

not

good

> > for Surya, I would think a water sign would be it debility.

> > 2. Guru - Exalted in the 4th ( Cn) and is A Moksha house...

good

> > place for Guru to do HIS work, to bring enlightenment yet his

 

office

> > is in Sagitarius, or a Dharma house. HE is at home

obviouisly,

yet

> > is doing HIS work these...interesting?

> >

> > Like this, it is not that stright forward to see the aligment

 

with

> > the Graha's and their rasi positons for work, home, etc.

> > If we can spend a few more minutes on this so I <and

sisyas> can

be

> > well grounded in this I would appreciate it. If there is more

I

can

> > read on this, I will be happy to puruse.

> >

> > Pranams,

> > Frank in San Diego

> >

> > varahamihira , "Visti Larsen"

<vishnu@l...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > > Dear Ajit,

> > > First we assign the various parts as signs, and these

signs are

> > defined as a form of the kaala purusha, as this actually

tells us

> > what the signs are trying to give us. Also refer to the

explanation

> > of the Dwadasa-aditya.

> > > Next we can define the Nakshatra (mentality),

Pada(ayana/goal)

and

> > Trimsamsa(??) to see the details about the graha's nature of

> > exaltation, etc.

> > > Best wishes

> > > Visti

> > > ---

> > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > > -

> > > Ajit Krishnan

> > >

> > > varahamihira

> > > Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:25 PM

> > > Re: |Sri Varaha| Exaltation and Debility of

Graha's

> > >

> > >

> > > hamsa om soham

> > >

> > > Dear Visti,

> > >

> > > When exaltation, debilitation, moolatrikona and

swakshetra

are

> > defined in terms of rasis (and not houses), does it not

follow

that

> > the true reason for these assignments should also be in terms

of

> > rasis (and nakshatras, and padas, and degrees) alone?

> > >

> > > ajit

> > > -

> > > Visti Larsen

> > > varahamihira

> > > Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:31 AM

> > > Re: |Sri Varaha| Exaltation and Debility of

 

Graha's

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > > Dear Frank,

> > > This was discussed several times on other lists,

where each

> > planets dristi, and also their exaltation, moolatrikona and

> > swakshetra and debilitation signs were discussed.

> > >

> > > The focal points are;

> > > Exaltation : The planets place of greatest enjoyment.

> > > Moolatrikona : The planets office, its dharma.

> > > Swakshetra : The planets home, or where it feels

like home

and

> > is satisfied.

> > > Debilitation : The planets place of least enjoyment.

> > >

> > > Example for Moon:

> > > Exaltation & Moolatrikona: Taurus is the natural

2nd house,

> > and moon being the mother and sustainer of the universe finds

her

> > duty and greatest enjoyment here, just as a mother enjoys

feeding

> > her child.

> > > Swakshetra: The Own sign of the Moon is the natural

4th -

> > Cancer, where the mother feels literally at peace and at home.

> > > Debilitation: Scorpio is the debilitation sign of

the Moon

and

> > being the natural 8th house, is the place of Rudra, which is

the

> > opposite of sustenance - hence the Moon finds her least

enjoyment

> > here.

> > >

> > > In this mannor each planet is understood. Jupiter

does not

> > represent purity, planets represent a person or deva. The

sign

and

> > house indicates the state and activity of the deva.

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > > Visti

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> > > fls999999999

> > > varahamihira

> > > Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:10 AM

> > > |Sri Varaha| Exaltation and Debility of

Graha's

> > >

> > >

> > > Om Sri Rama Jai Jai Rama

> > >

> > >

> > > Namaskr,

> > >

> > > Can some one assist.. I ask this question from

time-to-

time

> > yet

> > > have not yielded any clarity or response on this

matter.

> > >

> > > To form a firm foundation as a sisya I need to

understand

> > why is a

> > > Graha exalted or debilitated in any one sign? We

use this

> > every day

> > > in a chart, yet do we ( I) do not fully comprehend

why?

> > >

> > > Why is Surya exalted in Aries? If I read Sarvarth

> > Chintamani the

> > > author (Bhasinji) suggests that Surya falling in

the

first

> > 10

> > > degrees of Aries is in the Nakshatra of Ashvini

,

owned by

> > Ketu.

> > > Ketu is the Mokshakara , and Surya is the

Atmakaraka,

> > >

> > > Hence ATMA in MOKSHA or the highest state atma can

 

attain.

> > > This makes sense. Yet, Ketu also owns other

Nakshatera I

> > would

> > > think also favorable to the exaltation or Surya [

Leo,

> > Sun's home,

> > > or Sagittarius, owned by Guru, and what is the

goal of

Guru

> > if not

> > > the highest levels of Dharma yielding Moksha?]

> > >

> > > For Debilitation , I can see why Guru ( purity) is

> > debilitated in

> > > Capricorn, owned by Sani - with Sani owning dirt

its

> > covering the

> > > purity of Guru forcing debility, yet why not in

Aquarius

> > where both

> > > Rahu & Sani own the signand a double dose i.e.

> > > Dirt and diabolical behavior from Rahu?

> > >

> > > So, what principles do I look to apply common

sense? The

> > Tattva of

> > > the planets?

> > > e.g. Agni, Vayu, Prthivi, Jala and Aksha, and how

one may

> > overwhelm

> > > the other i.e. Water over fire? OR perhaps

Shadripu

weakness

> > > comparisons?

> > >

> > > If some one can assist I would appreciate the help

to

form a

> > solid

> > > base of knowledge.

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > > Frank in San Diego

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > |Om Tat Sat|

> > > http://www.varahamihira

> > >

> > >