Achyuta Gurukul] |Sri Varaha| Appointment of new Gurus and Administrative heads - For Sanjay

July 11, 2003

Dear Sanjay,

Below is my response to Mr. Abbot which I belive you'll find appropriate.

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I appreciate your mail and your sincere comments.

I certainly accept and respect everyone who reached a high level of Jyotish study, proving a reasonable degree (?) of correct analysis and percentage of accurate predictions (?).

In other words, one who's Jyotish work results truly help others in the spirit of Jyotish teachings.

The Jyotish Guru title (or similar) is perfect and highly respected for those.

It is certainly NOT the individuals in question (or any others for this matter) but the subject of Jyotish and Astrology as an accepted science in the public eye.

No emotions were involved while writing my comment, only common sense.

My main reason for 'objecting' the 'professor' title is the misleading effects and the building of a title hierarchy in this field without having a legitimate and acknowledged/approved body to control it. This has never been attempted before as far as I am aware of (here I must add that I have my full respect for Sanjay Rath but even he may be misled by others).

You are probably aware, just as well as most of us here, of the extensive misuse of titles in the west (and probably in the east too), which cause much suffering and financial losses to many people (here I refer to 1000's of fraud cases by so called 'astrologers' and the like).

It is difficult enough as it is to 'convince' people of the value of predictive astrology (Jyotish). Titles which are related to the academic world (true or honorable) have no place in this area in my opinion.

What impression will one get of a 'Jyotish doctor' as an example ? How do you think people will react when the 'professor's' predictions go wrong ? will he get a bad name or astrology ?

So my basic reaction is in trying to protect Jyotish, nothing else.

With kindest regards

Jay Weiss

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Sanjay Rath

varahamihira

Friday, July 11, 2003 4:41 AM

RE: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: |Sri Varaha| Appointment of new Gurus and Administrative heads

|brihaspatim varenyam|

Dear Anna & Jay

That is not the reason. The title remains Jyotisa Guru as you can clearly see in the circular sent out. The explanation of the meaning of Jyotisa Guru has to be given to authorities in various countries having various laws and cultures. The closest I could get to was professor (as was requested by one senior Jyotisa Guru for the sake of registration of SJC/carrying out his work in that country). I did not change the title. It continues as Jyotisa Guru.

A Guru is far too learned a person, too dedicated, having spent a life time of hardwork in learning the highest aspect of life to be called a professor. Personally, this is going to be objected to in India as Professor is a very derogatory translation for the Guru. So, this has been kept within brackets as an explanation for those authorities etc who do not (and never will) understand the meaning of Jyotisa Guru.

~ om tat sat ~

Yours truly,

Sanjay Rath

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N.Anna [anmar]Friday, July 11, 2003 5:02 AMvarahamihira ; Subject: Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: |Sri Varaha| Appointment of new Gurus and Administrative heads

Dear All,

I hope everyone will recognize your good faith, Jay, and mine in this matter.

SJC doesn't need this, let alone Jyotish- It can harm a lot, both. IMHO- it is a seed of self-destruction of SJC, and for that reason only, I feel bad about this.

Do we need depreciative titles, that people ridicule for right reasons for a long time, likle Cold Water Managers and

PhD Carpenters... We do not need artificial pumping for what already HAS REAL value,

Jyotish and Silicon Breasts-how do that sound to you dear friends?

What was definition of lack of vanity and other requirements of morality written by OLD sages, we all claim to accept as ULTIMATE AUTHORITY

I do have interest of SJC and Jyotish in mind, and I hope you trust me.

Really sad,

Anna

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J.Weiss

varahamihira ; ; vedic astrology ; SJC: Vyasa ; sjcasia

Cc: Dhira.Krsna.BCS ; swee ; sarajit ; gauranga ; ahimsa ; chandra ; Karu-1 ; satyaprakasika ; vishnu

Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:27 AM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: |Sri Varaha| Appointment of new Gurus and Administrative heads

Dear Sarabani and all members,

This mail is sent in good faith so please do not misinterpret it!

I strongly object to the misuse of the title "Professor" as described in SJC's last 'Appointment of Jyotisha guru's".

The title professor is a genuine academic title which follows a specific predefined international criteria and used by recognized academic institutions.

The title 'professor' is earned in universities after many years of study, sweat, blood, tears and difficult exams, usually taking a part of a life time.

SJC is NOT an academic institution nor a recognized high-education institute and as such has no authority to allocate or appoint academic titles.

I may be wrong but I find it very unethical and certainly against the purity that Jyotish teaches us.

It will be advisable to review this issue prior to any action from any officials ...

Kind regards

Jay Weiss

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Sarbani

; varahamihira ; vedic astrology ; SJC: Vyasa ; sjcasia

Cc: Dhira.Krsna.BCS ; swee ; sarajit ; gauranga ; ahimsa ; chandra ; Karu-1 ; satyaprakasika ; vishnu

Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:31 PM

|Sri Varaha| Appointment of new Gurus and Administrative heads

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

Dear Jyotisha,

Sri Jagannath Center is pleased to announce on this auspicious day, new jyotisha gurus, SJC gurus (regional gurus) and country heads for the Asia, Australia and European regions. The names of the newly appointed gurus and administrative heads are listed in the attached pdf file.

With best wishes,

Sarbani Sarkar

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