Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Mr. Reddy, > Camouflaging ignorance with arrogance is not the answer!" OK- sounds good to me. But, forgive me my ignorance, from your long post I've seen only the later- what's your point, Sir?- please do not send list of books or universities I'd need to attend in order for me to understand your point, if there is any- with all those heavy and pretencious words?- if possible. Thanks, A. Both parties have not transcended the levels imposed by secular langauges and secular slogans, secular education, viz science, technology degrees, jobs etc.Answer to gauranga's old question vide Sanjay's habits vs. holy book:1. Heathens draw silver line b/w BELIEF and PRACTICE.2. Practice is embodiment of beliefs, as per our armchair theologians of 1st century. This is strengthened by the secular sons of 'age of reason'3. heathens dont have any belief system, whereas our brethern of christianity, muslim, judaism do; however, modern hindoo, thanks to british education, hallucinates of such beliefs thinking that his western master is superior due to his advancements in sci and tech.4. Heathens do practice their customs, rituals; yet they debate about existence/non-existence of gods.5. The gospel elegantly put in this way: 'Devils do believe GOD but tremble at him.' Who are devils here? our achaaryas, devas are DEVILS as per abrahamics. Where does our sacred secular liberal stand on this line? 6.The so called intentional psychology of the West presupposes theology. What is the purpose of theology? Its aim to strengthen their belief. Sciences sprang in this process to solidify their position.7. There are no religions in India. If one were to say this, it should rise hackles of enlightened 'modern' hindu brothers. This shows their bankruptcy of understanding religion. After all, religion born in the west. The denotation of roman 'religio' to then pagans is diametrically opposite to the notion of 'religion' of christians. 8. Our christian cicero accuses Roman cicero as was seen in these arguments.10. The problem is pretty simple: It is fashion for 'modern' hindoos and secular scholars of the west to look into the 'holy' books of hypothetical religion called 'hinduism' to get an idea of their beliefs, because christians have beliefs, to understand the practice of heathens.11. Have not understand each other cf: Indian traditions, greeco-roman pagan traditions vs. religions that christianity, islam, judaism are.12. Sanjay's habits are *not* embodiements of beliefs of 15th century hypothetical religion, hinduism. He is just practising his ancestral traditions, as opposed to the way of brethern of abrahamic culture.13. Religion is an instance of Explanatory-intelligible account. For humans, it is in the form of religion, only one god, one truth. Indic traditions are not instance of this explanatory-intelligible account. But heathens practice is intelligible as scientific theories.14. religions lay truth claims, whereas traditionalists pratice for truth indluding naastikas of indic traditions.For more, digest the nice thesis of Prof. SN Balagangadhara's book titled "The heathen in his blindness: The dynamic of religion, Asia, the west." Esp people of western descent can grasp the arguments in that eassy. |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 aià gurursarasvatyai svähäDear VenkateswaraYour mail was good but a bit confusing as it had terms which were new to me like abrahic and all that. Now you speak of alcohol and going to temple?? I hope you are not suggesting that about me. Just clarifying.I wonder if I should accept that *challenge* from Syamasndara. Maybe we should have ACVA or ICAS as the neutral jury/judge. Let 100 charts be given as a test and (1) we have to pick out those charts where there is an extra-marital relationship and (2) indicate the type/brief details of the reationship. The one with the higher number of correct answers is the winner. You know what the loser does. Is this what you feel should settle this once and for all. I am also prepared to accept such a test with K N Rao or any other astrologer worth his mettle.I think that should decide whether someone knows or not. I have considered you to be very learned and hence seek your advise.~ om tat sat ~Yours truly,Sanjay Rath---------------------------H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India, +91-674-2436871 http://srath.com --------------------------------Original Message-----venkateshwara_reddy [venkateshwara_reddy]Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:39 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Fw: Answer to quiz/reddyvarahamihira , "N.Anna" <anmar@a...> wrote:> Mr. Reddy,> > > Camouflaging ignorance with arrogance is not the answer!"> > OK- sounds good to me.> But, forgive me my ignorance, from your long post I've seen only >the later- what's your point, Sir?-In simple words "practice" and "belief" are considered seperate by heathens. People tend to seek Jyotisha advise irrespective of whether they believe it or not. Likewise wrt to any set of secular morals.People may take alcohol; yet they go to temples. It is their ancestral practice(ishta/kula/graama deva.) It is not because of their beliefs engrossed in holy books.Forgive me, Lord!|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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