Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Dear Gurujans, Pranam, I would like to request you learned people that please throw some light on my doubt that whether planets decide our destiny or only influences our deeds or emotions or actions taken by us in our life. Do we have power or by any other mean can we generate power or some thing that can influence planets & our destiny. If somebody do not want to live life that way what he has been living & discovers something which in his kundali he can not get but still only that thing he wants to have in this life , whether he can get that thing in his life inspite of its non- existence in his kundali. I'll be grateful if you people guide me on this topic. thanks with regards parul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Hi Parul, Desires are caused due to the effects of the planets. One can get over one's desires but for that you need to energise yourself. About the thing stated by you, you can desire two types of things in any incarnation (if you believe in Sanatan Dharma) Spiritual achievements, Materialistic Achievements The hint that I am getting from your mail is you need something materialistic,i.e, either it is the wish for any non-living thing or a living thing (person). Whenever you want any person in his particular incarnation you actually desire him/her in physical form, i.e. where materialism comes and here only planets come into effect befause planets cannot effect the connection of souls. Now for all the materialistic thing if you want to overcome the effects of planet, first decide what kind of matter it is and which planets effect that particular matter in your chart. Energise yourself to acquire that particular matter. For energizing, a guy should pray the form of Shakti representing that particular matter and a gal should pray the form of Narayana representing that particular matter. I hope this would help you gain some insight into the whole Matrix. Thanks, parul.sharma_5 <parul.sharma_5 vedic astrology Sunday, November 4, 2007 10:32:59 PM [vedic astrology] Do planets decides our destiny or only influences us, do we have power to ..... Dear Gurujans, Pranam, I would like to request you learned people that please throw some light on my doubt that whether planets decide our destiny or only influences our deeds or emotions or actions taken by us in our life. Do we have power or by any other mean can we generate power or some thing that can influence planets & our destiny. If somebody do not want to live life that way what he has been living & discovers something which in his kundali he can not get but still only that thing he wants to have in this life , whether he can get that thing in his life inspite of its non- existence in his kundali. I'll be grateful if you people guide me on this topic. thanks with regards parul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 hello Shindi, thanks for your reply. You have given me some point to think for my doubts in apositive way. regards parul Shindi <sinhazz wrote: Hi Parul, Desires are caused due to the effects of the planets. One can get over one's desires but for that you need to energise yourself. About the thing stated by you, you can desire two types of things in any incarnation (if you believe in Sanatan Dharma) Spiritual achievements, Materialistic Achievements The hint that I am getting from your mail is you need something materialistic,i.e, either it is the wish for any non-living thing or a living thing (person). Whenever you want any person in his particular incarnation you actually desire him/her in physical form, i.e. where materialism comes and here only planets come into effect befause planets cannot effect the connection of souls. Now for all the materialistic thing if you want to overcome the effects of planet, first decide what kind of matter it is and which planets effect that particular matter in your chart. Energise yourself to acquire that particular matter. For energizing, a guy should pray the form of Shakti representing that particular matter and a gal should pray the form of Narayana representing that particular matter. I hope this would help you gain some insight into the whole Matrix. Thanks, parul.sharma_5 <parul.sharma_5 vedic astrology Sunday, November 4, 2007 10:32:59 PM [vedic astrology] Do planets decides our destiny or only influences us, do we have power to ..... Dear Gurujans, Pranam, I would like to request you learned people that please throw some light on my doubt that whether planets decide our destiny or only influences our deeds or emotions or actions taken by us in our life. Do we have power or by any other mean can we generate power or some thing that can influence planets & our destiny. If somebody do not want to live life that way what he has been living & discovers something which in his kundali he can not get but still only that thing he wants to have in this life , whether he can get that thing in his life inspite of its non- existence in his kundali. I'll be grateful if you people guide me on this topic. thanks with regards parul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Namaste Shindi, Thank you for the inputs. " Energise yourself to acquire that particular matter. For energizing, a guy should pray the form of Shakti representing that particular matter and a gal should pray the form of Narayana representing that particular matter. " Can you please explain in detail. I feel 99.99% of the people following astrology, numerology, gemology and seeking remedial measures are for material gain and only to have an immediate move out from the present problem he/she is facing which is always changing. For example : - First it is for the birth of a child , then for r studies/ then for job/ then for marriage , then for again child/ health/career/marriage...etc This cycle goes............. Almost all even look into this only after trying and doing what ever they can and still not getting the best . Looking into birth chart and find strong planet / weak planet and then do remedies. I am not sure how a planet will help or how much I can energise myself. Even there are two schoold of thought. 1. Bet on the strong planet 2. Strengthen and do remedial measures for weak so that it will help All astrologers agree that they cannot change anything nor influence what is written in the horoscope, if that is the case why we run after so many remedial measures. Please mail your thoughts. Namashivaya. Shindi <sinhazz wrote: Hi Parul, Desires are caused due to the effects of the planets. One can get over one's desires but for that you need to energise yourself. About the thing stated by you, you can desire two types of things in any incarnation (if you believe in Sanatan Dharma) Spiritual achievements, Materialistic Achievements The hint that I am getting from your mail is you need something materialistic,i.e, either it is the wish for any non-living thing or a living thing (person). Whenever you want any person in his particular incarnation you actually desire him/her in physical form, i.e. where materialism comes and here only planets come into effect befause planets cannot effect the connection of souls. Now for all the materialistic thing if you want to overcome the effects of planet, first decide what kind of matter it is and which planets effect that particular matter in your chart. Energise yourself to acquire that particular matter. For energizing, a guy should pray the form of Shakti representing that particular matter and a gal should pray the form of Narayana representing that particular matter. I hope this would help you gain some insight into the whole Matrix. Thanks, parul.sharma_5 <parul.sharma_5 vedic astrology Sunday, November 4, 2007 10:32:59 PM [vedic astrology] Do planets decides our destiny or only influences us, do we have power to ..... Dear Gurujans, Pranam, I would like to request you learned people that please throw some light on my doubt that whether planets decide our destiny or only influences our deeds or emotions or actions taken by us in our life. Do we have power or by any other mean can we generate power or some thing that can influence planets & our destiny. If somebody do not want to live life that way what he has been living & discovers something which in his kundali he can not get but still only that thing he wants to have in this life , whether he can get that thing in his life inspite of its non- existence in his kundali. I'll be grateful if you people guide me on this topic. thanks with regards parul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Welcome Parul Parul Sharma <parul.sharma_5 vedic astrology Monday, November 5, 2007 9:34:08 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Do planets decides our destiny or only influences us, do we have power to ..... hello Shindi, thanks for your reply. You have given me some point to think for my doubts in apositive way. regards parul Shindi <sinhazz > wrote: Hi Parul, Desires are caused due to the effects of the planets. One can get over one's desires but for that you need to energise yourself. About the thing stated by you, you can desire two types of things in any incarnation (if you believe in Sanatan Dharma) Spiritual achievements, Materialistic Achievements The hint that I am getting from your mail is you need something materialistic, i.e, either it is the wish for any non-living thing or a living thing (person). Whenever you want any person in his particular incarnation you actually desire him/her in physical form, i.e. where materialism comes and here only planets come into effect befause planets cannot effect the connection of souls. Now for all the materialistic thing if you want to overcome the effects of planet, first decide what kind of matter it is and which planets effect that particular matter in your chart. Energise yourself to acquire that particular matter. For energizing, a guy should pray the form of Shakti representing that particular matter and a gal should pray the form of Narayana representing that particular matter. I hope this would help you gain some insight into the whole Matrix. Thanks, parul.sharma_ 5 <parul.sharma_ 5 vedic astrology Sunday, November 4, 2007 10:32:59 PM [vedic astrology] Do planets decides our destiny or only influences us, do we have power to ..... Dear Gurujans, Pranam, I would like to request you learned people that please throw some light on my doubt that whether planets decide our destiny or only influences our deeds or emotions or actions taken by us in our life. Do we have power or by any other mean can we generate power or some thing that can influence planets & our destiny. If somebody do not want to live life that way what he has been living & discovers something which in his kundali he can not get but still only that thing he wants to have in this life , whether he can get that thing in his life inspite of its non- existence in his kundali. I'll be grateful if you people guide me on this topic. thanks with regards parul ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Hi Sudhir, An intellectual reply on your side. If you come to the basics taught in SriMadBhagwadGeeta and the interpretations and correlations from Puranas.,i.e., one can very easily get to know about the tattwas. The intelligence gathered through saatwik tatwas travels with you in the form of intelligence, those with rajasic tattwa travels travels with you as desires and those gathered through tamasic as the punishments. Now all these tattwas are basically different forms of energies(Dont apply laws of conservation of energies) The tamasic tattwas give you negative energies in and try to pull you down from higher dimensions, the rajasic tattwa tries to keep you at the same plane and will put you in a circular loop. The satwik tattwas are the ones which take you to higher dimensions. But remember all three of these travel with you but in varied proportions and the proportion is decided by your deeds in all the previous incarnation of yours. Correlate it with my previous mail you will get the answer. but remember here you has been used to refer to your soul. Thanks, Shindi Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon vedic astrology Tuesday, November 6, 2007 11:12:56 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Do planets decides our destiny or only influences us, do we have power to ..... Namaste Shindi, Thank you for the inputs. " Energise yourself to acquire that particular matter. For energizing, a guy should pray the form of Shakti representing that particular matter and a gal should pray the form of Narayana representing that particular matter. " Can you please explain in detail. I feel 99.99% of the people following astrology, numerology, gemology and seeking remedial measures are for material gain and only to have an immediate move out from the present problem he/she is facing which is always changing. For example : - First it is for the birth of a child , then for r studies/ then for job/ then for marriage , then for again child/ health/career/ marriage. ...etc This cycle goes........ ..... Almost all even look into this only after trying and doing what ever they can and still not getting the best . Looking into birth chart and find strong planet / weak planet and then do remedies. I am not sure how a planet will help or how much I can energise myself. Even there are two schoold of thought. 1. Bet on the strong planet 2. Strengthen and do remedial measures for weak so that it will help All astrologers agree that they cannot change anything nor influence what is written in the horoscope, if that is the case why we run after so many remedial measures. Please mail your thoughts. Namashivaya. Shindi <sinhazz > wrote: Hi Parul, Desires are caused due to the effects of the planets. One can get over one's desires but for that you need to energise yourself. About the thing stated by you, you can desire two types of things in any incarnation (if you believe in Sanatan Dharma) Spiritual achievements, Materialistic Achievements The hint that I am getting from your mail is you need something materialistic, i.e, either it is the wish for any non-living thing or a living thing (person). Whenever you want any person in his particular incarnation you actually desire him/her in physical form, i.e. where materialism comes and here only planets come into effect befause planets cannot effect the connection of souls. Now for all the materialistic thing if you want to overcome the effects of planet, first decide what kind of matter it is and which planets effect that particular matter in your chart. Energise yourself to acquire that particular matter. For energizing, a guy should pray the form of Shakti representing that particular matter and a gal should pray the form of Narayana representing that particular matter. I hope this would help you gain some insight into the whole Matrix. Thanks, parul.sharma_ 5 <parul.sharma_ 5 vedic astrology Sunday, November 4, 2007 10:32:59 PM [vedic astrology] Do planets decides our destiny or only influences us, do we have power to ..... Dear Gurujans, Pranam, I would like to request you learned people that please throw some light on my doubt that whether planets decide our destiny or only influences our deeds or emotions or actions taken by us in our life. Do we have power or by any other mean can we generate power or some thing that can influence planets & our destiny. If somebody do not want to live life that way what he has been living & discovers something which in his kundali he can not get but still only that thing he wants to have in this life , whether he can get that thing in his life inspite of its non- existence in his kundali. I'll be grateful if you people guide me on this topic. thanks with regards parul ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Dear Parul Sharma, So far as I know that astrology is based on theory of Karma.The Karma has been divided in Sanchit, Kriyaman, and Aagami. The inequality, differences,and distinctions of the person in the same famity or in a diffenr famity of the same status, or of same place compels us to think of theory of reincarnation or cycle of birth.The Sanchit Karma/accumutated Karma pertains to Karma that are lying latent.The Kriyaman Karma are those Karma which has been set in motion and we are living according to these Karma. We can not change our father, mother brothers and sisters etc. We have to under go the good or bad effects of fruits of our past Kriyaman Karma.But man has freewill as well as destiny/fate/luck. So astrology can be divided into three parts. That area where destiny must prevail as above, (b) that the area where man can exercise freewill. © that the area where it mixed, that where fate and freewill interplay. One should always remember that the effects are the creation of our Karma. We can change or reduce or increase or destroy these Karma by only Karmas, nothing else.More over these planet influence our Karma through body and Mind. So an astrologer gives importance to Lagna, Moon and Sun.Through the knowldge we can controll our karma i.e.senses of knowledge and senses of Karma and do our Karma for the benefit of mankind at large. When a man do service to others he forget his own sufferings and his own sufferings become negligible or forgets them. So he has no experience of suffering. So according to my experience the service to mankind destroys the the Past karma. It is in nutshell the karma theory and influence of planets. - In vedic astrology , " parul.sharma_5 " <parul.sharma_5 wrote: > > Dear Gurujans, > Pranam, > > I would like to request you learned people that please throw some > light on my doubt that whether planets decide our destiny or only > influences our deeds or emotions or actions taken by us in our life. > > Do we have power or by any other mean can we generate power or some > thing that can influence planets & our destiny. > > If somebody do not want to live life that way what he has been > living & discovers something which in his kundali he can not get but > still only that thing he wants to have in this life , whether he can > get that thing in his life inspite of its non- existence in his > kundali. > > I'll be grateful if you people guide me on this topic. > > thanks with regards > > parul > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Excellent explanation. I believe Kriyaman is also called as " Prarabdha " karma in certain Vedic texts. My question is how does this apply to the " voluntary " relationship called Marriage. This is the only relationship that a man and a woman consciously and willingly enter into, so it is very different from other blood-based relationships (father, mother, brothers, sisters). So, for example, in an otherwise normal marriage (i.e. husband and wife are faithful to each other), then how does the karmic script unfold for each other for minor offenses? For example, let's say in the normal marriage, the wife is verbally abusive towards the husband but otherwise neither of them do any major " sins " . In this case, is the wife incurring bad karma by verbally hurting her husband? Or is the husband paying for his past karma by bearing such verbal insults? The concept of sin and karmic debt is obvious for " large " sins that everybody would agree to, but how about these " small " hurts that people face in married life? Are these under the karmic influence (either past or to be repaid in the future) or is there free will being excercised by the verbal offender? If latter is true, is the verbal offender incurring any bad karma? I would appreciate the knowledgeable gurus to elaborate on my questions. Thanks, Mr.S vedic astrology , " sckursija " <sckursija wrote: > > Dear Parul Sharma, > So far as I know that astrology is based on theory of Karma.The Karma > has been divided in Sanchit, Kriyaman, and Aagami. The inequality, > differences,and distinctions of the person in the same famity or in a > diffenr famity of the same status, or of same place compels us to > think of theory of reincarnation or cycle of birth.The Sanchit > Karma/accumutated Karma pertains to Karma that are lying latent.The > Kriyaman Karma are those Karma which has been set in motion and we > are living according to these Karma. We can not change our father, > mother brothers and sisters etc. We have to under go the good or bad > effects of fruits of our past Kriyaman Karma.But man has freewill as > well as destiny/fate/luck. So astrology can be divided into three > parts. That area where destiny must prevail as above, (b) that the > area where man can exercise freewill. © that the area where it > mixed, that where fate and freewill interplay. One should always > remember that the effects are the creation of our Karma. We can > change or reduce or increase or destroy these Karma by only Karmas, > nothing else.More over these planet influence our Karma through body > and Mind. So an astrologer gives importance to Lagna, Moon and > Sun.Through the knowldge we can controll our karma i.e.senses of > knowledge and senses of Karma and do our Karma for the benefit of > mankind at large. When a man do service to others he forget his own > sufferings and his own sufferings become negligible or forgets them. > So he has no experience of suffering. So according to my experience > the service to mankind destroys the the Past karma. It is in nutshell > the karma theory and influence of planets. > > - In vedic astrology , " parul.sharma_5 " > <parul.sharma_5@> wrote: > > > > Dear Gurujans, > > Pranam, > > > > I would like to request you learned people that please throw some > > light on my doubt that whether planets decide our destiny or only > > influences our deeds or emotions or actions taken by us in our life. > > > > Do we have power or by any other mean can we generate power or some > > thing that can influence planets & our destiny. > > > > If somebody do not want to live life that way what he has been > > living & discovers something which in his kundali he can not get > but > > still only that thing he wants to have in this life , whether he > can > > get that thing in his life inspite of its non- existence in his > > kundali. > > > > I'll be grateful if you people guide me on this topic. > > > > thanks with regards > > > > parul > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Thanks sir for your reply. regards parul sckursija <sckursija wrote: Dear Parul Sharma, So far as I know that astrology is based on theory of Karma.The Karma has been divided in Sanchit, Kriyaman, and Aagami. The inequality, differences,and distinctions of the person in the same famity or in a diffenr famity of the same status, or of same place compels us to think of theory of reincarnation or cycle of birth.The Sanchit Karma/accumutated Karma pertains to Karma that are lying latent.The Kriyaman Karma are those Karma which has been set in motion and we are living according to these Karma. We can not change our father, mother brothers and sisters etc. We have to under go the good or bad effects of fruits of our past Kriyaman Karma.But man has freewill as well as destiny/fate/luck. So astrology can be divided into three parts. That area where destiny must prevail as above, (b) that the area where man can exercise freewill. © that the area where it mixed, that where fate and freewill interplay. One should always remember that the effects are the creation of our Karma. We can change or reduce or increase or destroy these Karma by only Karmas, nothing else.More over these planet influence our Karma through body and Mind. So an astrologer gives importance to Lagna, Moon and Sun.Through the knowldge we can controll our karma i.e.senses of knowledge and senses of Karma and do our Karma for the benefit of mankind at large. When a man do service to others he forget his own sufferings and his own sufferings become negligible or forgets them. So he has no experience of suffering. So according to my experience the service to mankind destroys the the Past karma. It is in nutshell the karma theory and influence of planets. - In vedic astrology , " parul.sharma_5 " <parul.sharma_5 wrote: > > Dear Gurujans, > Pranam, > > I would like to request you learned people that please throw some > light on my doubt that whether planets decide our destiny or only > influences our deeds or emotions or actions taken by us in our life. > > Do we have power or by any other mean can we generate power or some > thing that can influence planets & our destiny. > > If somebody do not want to live life that way what he has been > living & discovers something which in his kundali he can not get but > still only that thing he wants to have in this life , whether he can > get that thing in his life inspite of its non- existence in his > kundali. > > I'll be grateful if you people guide me on this topic. > > thanks with regards > > parul > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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