Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 *hare rama krsna* Dear Rishabh , Namaskar Yes, its good, but depends from which place Shani aspects, Shani placement will be the most important. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal SkypeID: jyotraff1 Consultations & Articles: http://rohinaa.com Rishabh napisa?(a): > > if the lord of the 7th from arudha lagna aspects its own house(which > has no planets) then is it good for the rise of the native? for eg- > someone having saturn aspecting capricorn by graha drishti.. capricorn > is 7th from arudha lagna in cancer.. > thanks > hare rama krishna > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Namaste Bhagavathi Thanks for the reply - I am assuming Asc is 21Tau46? Appreciate Sani is benefic for Taurus/Libra ascendants ie for the Native himself But Not necessarily for another relative. As previously mentioned Sani is Not well placed as far as Father (9th Lord) is concerned being in the House of Debts (6th) from the 9th Hse. Inaddition note Natural Karaka for Father (Sun) is heavily afflicted by Sani, Mars and Rahu. As far as Maternal Uncles are concerned - 1st Younger Uncle Lord is Venus(6th Lord) who is placed in the 4th Hse (11th from 6th Hse) whilst Moon (10th Lord from 6th Hse) is placed in the 7th Hse (ie 2nd from 6th) leading to great progress in career. Eldest Maternal Uncle Lord is Mercury (2nd Hse) who is exalted in 5th Hse (ie 4th Hse from 2nd) whilst Jup (10th Lord from 2nd) is placed in the 4th Hse (3rd from 2nd) in conjunction with Sun & Venus again leading to progress in career though Not as great as the Younger Uncle. Is there an Elder Masi (Mothers sister)? Regards .. Jai Sita Ram Ram _____ vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of bhagavathi_hariharan 16 November 2007 00:49 vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: arudha lagna 7th house query vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> , " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal wrote: Jaswalji, The details are dob sept3, 2003 Time 00.53.00hrs, place lubbock, texas, USA (Daylight savings time applicable). Mercury retrogade in kanya as per JHora (in leo as per some panchangs), venus in 4th alongwith Jupiter and Sun. Saturn, is a great benefic for taurus lagna. One of his maternal uncles is nearing fame in his profession while the others have made great progress in career. But father is not doing well at all professionally. bhagavathi > > Namaste Bhagavathi > > Father's wealth being depleted is I guess understandable as Sat (9th & 10th > Lord - Father and his wealth) has gone to 2nd House (ie 6th from 9th House). > Can you either supply the Chart details or Venus's & Mercury's placement as > to better understand Maternal uncle's progress .. > > Best wishes ... > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > > _____ > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> ] On Behalf Of bhagavathi_hariharan > 14 November 2007 16:35 > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha lagna 7th house query > > Kishoreji, > > Is this general reaoning about saturn in second be felt only during > saturn dasa. I see this true for a little boy who is born in saturn > dasa. Vrishabh lagna, saturn in gemini. His father had zero income > ever since he was born. However, maternal uncles have made very good > progrss!!! > > Please share your knowledge > > bhagavathi > > -- In vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > , " kishore patnaik " > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > Dear rishabh, > > > > It is one thing to say things in general - as given in classics or > on the > > basis of general reasoning: saturn in 2nd in scorpio will effect > your father > > in a very secretive way. Your father is likely to have more lady > enemies- > > say his sisters or lady colleagues etc. The saturn stalls your > income on one > > hand and ensures an average income in times of difficulty being > yoga karaka. > > He asepcts 11th house hence, he may adversely effect your > benefectors. Being > > in 2nd house and if he is otherwise weak, he would be favoring the > mother's > > brothers, rather than the native himself especially during the > saturn dasa. > > > > On the other hand, It is very difficult to say how one's career > would be on > > the basis of just one planet for a specific chart. . You would > notice that > > Saturn is a YK to Libra lagna and he is placed in 2nd house. He > will be > > aspecting 8th house, 4th house and 11th house, all being important > houses. > > Hence, certainly it is necessary to see how he would act being in > scorpio. > > > > I am sure the group will appreciate the need for holistic treatment > for > > specific charts. > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > On 11/14/07, RISHABH JINDAL <rishabhjindal@> wrote: > > > > > > hello sir > > > saturn is aspecting from the 2nd house in scorpio > > > rashi and saturn is vargottama in the chart > > > --- kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09@<kishorepatnaik09% > 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > <http://docs. <http://docs. <> /info/terms/> /info/terms/> > > > Recent Activity > > > > > > - 23 > > > New Members<http://groups. <http://groups. <vedic-> vedic- > > vedic- > astrology/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYW9xcG0xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjk > wNDQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjg2BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzExOTUwM > zExMzA-> > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > <http://groups. <http://groups. <vedic-> vedic-> > vedic- > astrology;_ylc=X3oDMTJlODE4bmZrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjkwNDQEZ3J > wc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjg2BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTE5NTAzMTEzMA- -> > > > Best of Y! 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Guest guest Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Dear Ram Jaswal, Saturn in 2nd is per se bad for father, since Saturn signfies father for certain births. It has nothing to with lord Similarly, we have to note that in general, Occupation of 2nd by 9th and 10th Lord/s is good, because it enhances wealth and prosperity of the native. Combining the above two, we can further that Saturn is a yoga karaka also. Thus, he would spoil father's propserity but will help native, if strong and help native' relatives , if weak. Hope this clarifies, regards, Kishore patnaik 98492 70729 On 11/16/07, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal wrote: > > Namaste Bhagavathi > > Father's wealth being depleted is I guess understandable as Sat (9th & > 10th > Lord - Father and his wealth) has gone to 2nd House (ie 6th from 9th > House). > Can you either supply the Chart details or Venus's & Mercury's placement > as > to better understand Maternal uncle's progress .. > > Best wishes ... > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > > _____ > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40> > [vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>] > On Behalf Of bhagavathi_hariharan > 14 November 2007 16:35 > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40> > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha lagna 7th house query > > Kishoreji, > > Is this general reaoning about saturn in second be felt only during > saturn dasa. I see this true for a little boy who is born in saturn > dasa. Vrishabh lagna, saturn in gemini. His father had zero income > ever since he was born. However, maternal uncles have made very good > progrss!!! > > Please share your knowledge > > bhagavathi > > -- In vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > , " kishore patnaik " > <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > > > > Dear rishabh, > > > > It is one thing to say things in general - as given in classics or > on the > > basis of general reasoning: saturn in 2nd in scorpio will effect > your father > > in a very secretive way. Your father is likely to have more lady > enemies- > > say his sisters or lady colleagues etc. The saturn stalls your > income on one > > hand and ensures an average income in times of difficulty being > yoga karaka. > > He asepcts 11th house hence, he may adversely effect your > benefectors. Being > > in 2nd house and if he is otherwise weak, he would be favoring the > mother's > > brothers, rather than the native himself especially during the > saturn dasa. > > > > On the other hand, It is very difficult to say how one's career > would be on > > the basis of just one planet for a specific chart. . You would > notice that > > Saturn is a YK to Libra lagna and he is placed in 2nd house. He > will be > > aspecting 8th house, 4th house and 11th house, all being important > houses. > > Hence, certainly it is necessary to see how he would act being in > scorpio. > > > > I am sure the group will appreciate the need for holistic treatment > for > > specific charts. > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > On 11/14/07, RISHABH JINDAL <rishabhjindal wrote: > > > > > > hello sir > > > saturn is aspecting from the 2nd house in scorpio > > > rashi and saturn is vargottama in the chart > > > --- kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09<kishorepatnaik09% > 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > <http://docs. <> > /info/terms/> > > > Recent Activity > > > > > > - 23 > > > New Members<http://groups. <vedic-> > vedic- > astrology/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYW9xcG0xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjk > wNDQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjg2BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzExOTUwM > zExMzA-> > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > <http://groups. <vedic-> > vedic- > astrology;_ylc=X3oDMTJlODE4bmZrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjkwNDQEZ3J > wc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjg2BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTE5NTAzMTEzMA--> > > > Best of Y! Groups > > > > > > Check out the > best<http://us.ard. > <http://us.ard./SIG=12jjdvkqe/M=493064.11127061.11695037.> > /SIG=12jjdvkqe/M=493064.11127061.11695037. > 8674578/D=groups/S=1705082686:NC/Y=/EXP=1195038330/A=4763758/R=0/ > SIG=11ou7otip/*http://advision. > <http://advision.webevents./bestof/> > webevents./bestof/> > > > > > > of what > > > > > > Groups has to offer. > > > Endurance Zone > > > > > > A Fitness > Group<http://us.ard. > <http://us.ard./SIG=12juf6ljd/M=493064.11135487.11710473> > /SIG=12juf6ljd/M=493064.11135487.11710473 > .8674578/D=groups/S=1705082686:NC/Y=/EXP=1195038330/A=4834085/R=0 > /SIG=11ikjqbtm/*http://sports. > <http://sports.accelerade/> > accelerade/> > > > > > > about overall > > > > > > better endurance. > > > Real Food Group > > > > > > on > Groups<http://us.ard. > <http://us.ard./SIG=12jji61vr/M=493064.11036139.1161479> > /SIG=12jji61vr/M=493064.11036139.1161479 > 1.8674578/D=groups/S=1705082686:NC/Y=/EXP=1195038330/A=4725795/R= > 0/SIG=1192rfjiu/*http://groups. <realfood/> > realfood/> > > > > > > What does real food > > > > > > mean to you? > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Dear Gopu, Karma theory makes it very clear that you and you alone are responsible for your actions and the karma you are enjoing is your own make, rather than that of others. Hence, it is not very right to say that 'my marriage has brought me good luck " , " his daughter has brought his ruin " etc. Then, is all the indications that birth in certain asterisms/pads/degrees will bring good luck to various relatives and birth in yet others may bring some bad luck? So many remedies are in fact prescribed for such births . Are they all bogus? No, not at all. Then how do we reconcile both the above arugements- that one is responsbile for one's karma on one hand, and that a birth in family may bring good luck etc to the relatives, on the other? We have to understand karma theory more correctly. Your karma is of three types - sanchita, prarabdha and agami. what are three karmas? Let me quote pujya sivananda: " Karma is of three kinds, viz., Sanchita (accumulated works), Prarabdha (fructifying works) and Kriyamana or Agami (current works). Sanchita is all the accumulated Karmas of the past. Part of it is seen in the character of man, in his tendencies and aptitudes, capacities, inclinations and desires, etc. Tendencies come from this. Prarabdha is that portion of the past Karma which is responsible for the present body. That portion of the Sanchita Karma which influences human life in the present incarnation is called Prarabdha. " Thus, latent karma or sanchita karma is your bank balance. prarabdha is liquid cashwith drawn from the bank and which is being spent today and agami is what you are earning to day. That is every moment, your sanchita karma is being translated into prarabdha karma which describes how your present moment is going to be like. Similary, every moment you are doing karma which will create agami karma which is being added to your sanchita karma. So, the new arrivals will show a possibility that your sanchita karma which is already indicated by your chart is going to be translated to prarabdha karma but which was not clear for reading. The new births infact work as indicators rather than being the cause of what is going to happen in future. Often, such births can mean that the native is given a fresh chance to atone. Hope I am clear. regards, Kishore patnaik 98492 70729 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Jaswalji, Your analysis seems to make sense. But still I am little confused about the affliction of Sun. First, Sun is in moolatrikona and vargottama. As such Sun is strong. Saturn throws benefic aspect because being lord of kendra and yogakaraka. Rahu is in a benefic sign if considered in taurus and also in lagna, exalted hence should behave like a benefic. But the nodes actually fall in Mesha-tula axis. Hence, may not even cast an aspect. The only direct aspect then will be mars. But Mars is weak being retrogade. Mars is also the lord of a kendra and Rasi-adhipati. So, Sun is afflicted maybe only to a mild extent. About the uncles, mother has two elder brothers and one younger- younger is the richest, second elder has a near fame status though not wealthy, the first elder is in a good standing position and money wise by Indian standards. The second elder and the younger made huge progress after this boy was born. I would like to know of your opinion about elder sister of the mother assuming there is one. My namaskars Mrs. bhagavathi vedic astrology , " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal wrote: > > Namaste Bhagavathi > > Thanks for the reply - I am assuming Asc is 21Tau46? Appreciate Sani is > benefic for Taurus/Libra ascendants ie for the Native himself But Not > necessarily for another relative. As previously mentioned Sani is Not well > placed as far as Father (9th Lord) is concerned being in the House of Debts > (6th) from the 9th Hse. Inaddition note Natural Karaka for Father (Sun) is > heavily afflicted by Sani, Mars and Rahu. > > As far as Maternal Uncles are concerned - 1st Younger Uncle Lord is > Venus(6th Lord) who is placed in the 4th Hse (11th from 6th Hse) whilst Moon > (10th Lord from 6th Hse) is placed in the 7th Hse (ie 2nd from 6th) leading > to great progress in career. > > Eldest Maternal Uncle Lord is Mercury (2nd Hse) who is exalted in 5th Hse > (ie 4th Hse from 2nd) whilst Jup (10th Lord from 2nd) is placed in the 4th > Hse (3rd from 2nd) in conjunction with Sun & Venus again leading to progress > in career though Not as great as the Younger Uncle. > > Is there an Elder Masi (Mothers sister)? > > Regards .. > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > > > _____ > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of bhagavathi_hariharan > 16 November 2007 00:49 > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha lagna 7th house query > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > , " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal@> > wrote: > Jaswalji, > > The details are dob sept3, 2003 Time 00.53.00hrs, place lubbock, > texas, USA (Daylight savings time applicable). Mercury retrogade in > kanya as per JHora (in leo as per some panchangs), venus in 4th > alongwith Jupiter and Sun. Saturn, is a great benefic for taurus > lagna. One of his maternal uncles is nearing fame in his profession > while the others have made great progress in career. But father is > not doing well at all professionally. > > bhagavathi > > > > > Namaste Bhagavathi > > > > Father's wealth being depleted is I guess understandable as Sat > (9th & 10th > > Lord - Father and his wealth) has gone to 2nd House (ie 6th from > 9th House). > > Can you either supply the Chart details or Venus's & Mercury's > placement as > > to better understand Maternal uncle's progress .. > > > > Best wishes ... > > > > Jai Sita Ram > > > > Ram > > > > _____ > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology% 40> > ] On Behalf Of > bhagavathi_hariharan > > 14 November 2007 16:35 > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha lagna 7th house query > > > > Kishoreji, > > > > Is this general reaoning about saturn in second be felt only during > > saturn dasa. I see this true for a little boy who is born in saturn > > dasa. Vrishabh lagna, saturn in gemini. His father had zero income > > ever since he was born. However, maternal uncles have made very > good > > progrss!!! > > > > Please share your knowledge > > > > bhagavathi > > > > -- In vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > , " kishore patnaik " > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear rishabh, > > > > > > It is one thing to say things in general - as given in classics > or > > on the > > > basis of general reasoning: saturn in 2nd in scorpio will effect > > your father > > > in a very secretive way. Your father is likely to have more lady > > enemies- > > > say his sisters or lady colleagues etc. The saturn stalls your > > income on one > > > hand and ensures an average income in times of difficulty being > > yoga karaka. > > > He asepcts 11th house hence, he may adversely effect your > > benefectors. Being > > > in 2nd house and if he is otherwise weak, he would be favoring > the > > mother's > > > brothers, rather than the native himself especially during the > > saturn dasa. > > > > > > On the other hand, It is very difficult to say how one's career > > would be on > > > the basis of just one planet for a specific chart. . You would > > notice that > > > Saturn is a YK to Libra lagna and he is placed in 2nd house. He > > will be > > > aspecting 8th house, 4th house and 11th house, all being > important > > houses. > > > Hence, certainly it is necessary to see how he would act being in > > scorpio. > > > > > > I am sure the group will appreciate the need for holistic > treatment > > for > > > specific charts. > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > On 11/14/07, RISHABH JINDAL <rishabhjindal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > hello sir > > > > saturn is aspecting from the 2nd house in scorpio > > > > rashi and saturn is vargottama in the chart > > > > --- kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09@<kishorepatnaik09% > > 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://docs. <http://docs. <> > /info/terms/> > /info/terms/> > > > > Recent Activity > > > > > > > > - 23 > > > > New Members<http://groups. <http://groups. > <vedic-> vedic- > > > > vedic- > > > astrology/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYW9xcG0xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjk > > > wNDQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjg2BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzExOTUwM > > zExMzA-> > > > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > <http://groups. <http://groups. <vedic-> > vedic-> > > vedic- > > > astrology;_ylc=X3oDMTJlODE4bmZrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjkwNDQEZ3J > > wc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjg2BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTE5NTAzMTEzMA- > -> > > > > Best of Y! 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Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 dear sri Kishore Patnaik, thanks for the illustrative explanation of Karma. so the father's accumulated Karma is responsible for his present state of affairs. regards, k.gopu ______________________________\ ____ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make your homepage. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Namaste Kishore Glad you agree with my earlier comments re:Sani good for Native But Not for Father (see Group email #97896) .. Though I beg to differ with regards to it being " nothing to with lord " comment - normally Sani in 6th Hse is Not considered to be a " bad " placement as being in a Upachaya Hse as well as being a Karaka for the 6th Hse. It is primarily the reason that it signifies " Father " that it is " bad " being placed in 2nd Hse. Best wishes ... Jai Sita Ram Ram _____ vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of kishore patnaik 17 November 2007 02:11 vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] arudha lagna 7th house query Dear Ram Jaswal, Saturn in 2nd is per se bad for father, since Saturn signfies father for certain births. It has nothing to with lord Similarly, we have to note that in general, Occupation of 2nd by 9th and 10th Lord/s is good, because it enhances wealth and prosperity of the native. Combining the above two, we can further that Saturn is a yoga karaka also. Thus, he would spoil father's propserity but will help native, if strong and help native' relatives , if weak. Hope this clarifies, regards, Kishore patnaik 98492 70729 On 11/16/07, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) <rkjaswal%40tiscali.co.uk> co.uk> wrote: > > Namaste Bhagavathi > > Father's wealth being depleted is I guess understandable as Sat (9th & > 10th > Lord - Father and his wealth) has gone to 2nd House (ie 6th from 9th > House). > Can you either supply the Chart details or Venus's & Mercury's placement > as > to better understand Maternal uncle's progress .. > > Best wishes ... > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > > _____ > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> <vedic astrology%40> > [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> <vedic astrology%40>] > On Behalf Of bhagavathi_hariharan > 14 November 2007 16:35 > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> <vedic astrology%40> > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha lagna 7th house query > > Kishoreji, > > Is this general reaoning about saturn in second be felt only during > saturn dasa. I see this true for a little boy who is born in saturn > dasa. Vrishabh lagna, saturn in gemini. His father had zero income > ever since he was born. However, maternal uncles have made very good > progrss!!! > > Please share your knowledge > > bhagavathi > > -- In vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > , " kishore patnaik " > <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > > > > Dear rishabh, > > > > It is one thing to say things in general - as given in classics or > on the > > basis of general reasoning: saturn in 2nd in scorpio will effect > your father > > in a very secretive way. Your father is likely to have more lady > enemies- > > say his sisters or lady colleagues etc. The saturn stalls your > income on one > > hand and ensures an average income in times of difficulty being > yoga karaka. > > He asepcts 11th house hence, he may adversely effect your > benefectors. Being > > in 2nd house and if he is otherwise weak, he would be favoring the > mother's > > brothers, rather than the native himself especially during the > saturn dasa. > > > > On the other hand, It is very difficult to say how one's career > would be on > > the basis of just one planet for a specific chart. . You would > notice that > > Saturn is a YK to Libra lagna and he is placed in 2nd house. He > will be > > aspecting 8th house, 4th house and 11th house, all being important > houses. > > Hence, certainly it is necessary to see how he would act being in > scorpio. > > > > I am sure the group will appreciate the need for holistic treatment > for > > specific charts. > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > On 11/14/07, RISHABH JINDAL <rishabhjindal wrote: > > > > > > hello sir > > > saturn is aspecting from the 2nd house in scorpio > > > rashi and saturn is vargottama in the chart > > > --- kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09<kishorepatnaik09% > 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > <http://docs. <http://docs. <> /info/terms/> > /info/terms/> > > > Recent Activity > > > > > > - 23 > > > New Members<http://groups. <http://groups. <vedic-> vedic-> > vedic- > astrology/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYW9xcG0xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjk > wNDQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjg2BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzExOTUwM > zExMzA-> > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > <http://groups. <http://groups. <vedic-> vedic-> > vedic- > astrology;_ylc=X3oDMTJlODE4bmZrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjkwNDQEZ3J > wc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjg2BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTE5NTAzMTEzMA--> > > > Best of Y! 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Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 *hare rama krsna* Dear Ram , Namaskar Shani in sixth is best placed as it has drsti on Upachayas. Still it can be bad for lordship if other yoga is blocking. Shani in second has nothing to do with father. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal SkypeID: jyotraff1 Consultations & Articles: http://rohinaa.com Ram Jaswal napisa?(a): > > Namaste Kishore > > Glad you agree with my earlier comments re:Sani good for Native But > Not for > Father (see Group email #97896) .. > > Though I beg to differ with regards to it being " nothing to with lord " > comment - normally Sani in 6th Hse is Not considered to be a " bad " > placement as being in a Upachaya Hse as well as being a Karaka for the 6th > Hse. It is primarily the reason that it signifies " Father " that it is > " bad " > being placed in 2nd Hse. > > Best wishes ... > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > > _____ > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40> > [vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>] On Behalf Of kishore patnaik > 17 November 2007 02:11 > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40> > Re: [vedic astrology] arudha lagna 7th house query > > Dear Ram Jaswal, > > Saturn in 2nd is per se bad for father, since Saturn signfies father for > certain births. It has nothing to with lord > Similarly, we have to note that in general, Occupation of 2nd by 9th and > 10th Lord/s is good, because it enhances wealth and prosperity of the > native. > > Combining the above two, we can further that Saturn is a yoga karaka also. > Thus, he would spoil father's propserity but will help native, if > strong and > help native' relatives , if weak. > > Hope this clarifies, > > regards, > > Kishore patnaik > 98492 70729 > > On 11/16/07, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) <rkjaswal% > 40tiscali. co.uk> > co.uk> wrote: > > > > Namaste Bhagavathi > > > > Father's wealth being depleted is I guess understandable as Sat (9th & > > 10th > > Lord - Father and his wealth) has gone to 2nd House (ie 6th from 9th > > House). > > Can you either supply the Chart details or Venus's & Mercury's placement > > as > > to better understand Maternal uncle's progress .. > > > > Best wishes ... > > > > Jai Sita Ram > > > > Ram > > > > _____ > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic- astrology% 40. com> > . com <vedic astrology% 40. com> > > [vedic- astrology@ <vedic- astrology% 40. com> > . com<vedic- astrology% 40. com>] > > On Behalf Of bhagavathi_harihara n > > 14 November 2007 16:35 > > vedic astrology@ <vedic- astrology% 40. com> > . com <vedic astrology% 40. com> > > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha lagna 7th house query > > > > Kishoreji, > > > > Is this general reaoning about saturn in second be felt only during > > saturn dasa. I see this true for a little boy who is born in saturn > > dasa. Vrishabh lagna, saturn in gemini. His father had zero income > > ever since he was born. However, maternal uncles have made very good > > progrss!!! > > > > Please share your knowledge > > > > bhagavathi > > > > -- In vedic astrology@ <vedic- astrology% 40. com> > > . com, " kishore patnaik " > > <kishorepatnaik09@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear rishabh, > > > > > > It is one thing to say things in general - as given in classics or > > on the > > > basis of general reasoning: saturn in 2nd in scorpio will effect > > your father > > > in a very secretive way. Your father is likely to have more lady > > enemies- > > > say his sisters or lady colleagues etc. The saturn stalls your > > income on one > > > hand and ensures an average income in times of difficulty being > > yoga karaka. > > > He asepcts 11th house hence, he may adversely effect your > > benefectors. Being > > > in 2nd house and if he is otherwise weak, he would be favoring the > > mother's > > > brothers, rather than the native himself especially during the > > saturn dasa. > > > > > > On the other hand, It is very difficult to say how one's career > > would be on > > > the basis of just one planet for a specific chart. . You would > > notice that > > > Saturn is a YK to Libra lagna and he is placed in 2nd house. 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Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 i have no comments to make when you dismiss it so eagerl, inspite what I have commented in general has been proved with an example by Bhagavathi. regards, Kishore patnaik 98492 70729 On 11/17/07, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal wrote: > Namaste Kishore > > Glad you agree with my earlier comments re:Sani good for Native But Not for > Father (see Group email #97896) .. > > Though I beg to differ with regards to it being " nothing to with lord " > comment - normally Sani in 6th Hse is Not considered to be a " bad " > placement as being in a Upachaya Hse as well as being a Karaka for the 6th > Hse. It is primarily the reason that it signifies " Father " that it is " bad " > being placed in 2nd Hse. > > Best wishes ... > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > > _____ > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of kishore patnaik > 17 November 2007 02:11 > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] arudha lagna 7th house query > > Dear Ram Jaswal, > > Saturn in 2nd is per se bad for father, since Saturn signfies father for > certain births. It has nothing to with lord > Similarly, we have to note that in general, Occupation of 2nd by 9th and > 10th Lord/s is good, because it enhances wealth and prosperity of the > native. > > Combining the above two, we can further that Saturn is a yoga karaka also. > Thus, he would spoil father's propserity but will help native, if strong and > help native' relatives , if weak. > > Hope this clarifies, > > regards, > > Kishore patnaik > 98492 70729 > > On 11/16/07, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) <rkjaswal%40tiscali.co.uk> > co.uk> wrote: > > > > Namaste Bhagavathi > > > > Father's wealth being depleted is I guess understandable as Sat (9th & > > 10th > > Lord - Father and his wealth) has gone to 2nd House (ie 6th from 9th > > House). > > Can you either supply the Chart details or Venus's & Mercury's placement > > as > > to better understand Maternal uncle's progress .. > > > > Best wishes ... > > > > Jai Sita Ram > > > > Ram > > > > _____ > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > <vedic astrology%40> > > [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > <vedic astrology%40>] > > On Behalf Of bhagavathi_hariharan > > 14 November 2007 16:35 > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > <vedic astrology%40> > > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha lagna 7th house query > > > > Kishoreji, > > > > Is this general reaoning about saturn in second be felt only during > > saturn dasa. I see this true for a little boy who is born in saturn > > dasa. Vrishabh lagna, saturn in gemini. His father had zero income > > ever since he was born. However, maternal uncles have made very good > > progrss!!! > > > > Please share your knowledge > > > > bhagavathi > > > > -- In vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > , " kishore patnaik " > > <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > > > > > > Dear rishabh, > > > > > > It is one thing to say things in general - as given in classics or > > on the > > > basis of general reasoning: saturn in 2nd in scorpio will effect > > your father > > > in a very secretive way. Your father is likely to have more lady > > enemies- > > > say his sisters or lady colleagues etc. The saturn stalls your > > income on one > > > hand and ensures an average income in times of difficulty being > > yoga karaka. > > > He asepcts 11th house hence, he may adversely effect your > > benefectors. Being > > > in 2nd house and if he is otherwise weak, he would be favoring the > > mother's > > > brothers, rather than the native himself especially during the > > saturn dasa. > > > > > > On the other hand, It is very difficult to say how one's career > > would be on > > > the basis of just one planet for a specific chart. . You would > > notice that > > > Saturn is a YK to Libra lagna and he is placed in 2nd house. He > > will be > > > aspecting 8th house, 4th house and 11th house, all being important > > houses. > > > Hence, certainly it is necessary to see how he would act being in > > scorpio. > > > > > > I am sure the group will appreciate the need for holistic treatment > > for > > > specific charts. > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > On 11/14/07, RISHABH JINDAL <rishabhjindal wrote: > > > > > > > > hello sir > > > > saturn is aspecting from the 2nd house in scorpio > > > > rashi and saturn is vargottama in the chart > > > > --- kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09<kishorepatnaik09% > > 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://docs. <http://docs. <> > /info/terms/> > > /info/terms/> > > > > Recent Activity > > > > > > > > - 23 > > > > New Members<http://groups. <http://groups. > <vedic-> vedic-> > > vedic- > > astrology/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYW9xcG0xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjk > > wNDQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjg2BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzExOTUwM > > zExMzA-> > > > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > <http://groups. <http://groups. <vedic-> > vedic-> > > vedic- > > astrology;_ylc=X3oDMTJlODE4bmZrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjkwNDQEZ3J > > wc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjg2BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTE5NTAzMTEzMA--> > > > > Best of Y! 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Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Namaste Rafal My comments were with reference to Taurus Asc where Sani being 9th Lord (hence Father) is Not well placed being in Gemini ie in House of Debts (6th from 9th) hence Not good for wealth of Father. See my earlier emails for further comments on this subject .. Regards .. Jai Sita Ram Ram _____ vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz 17 November 2007 12:12 vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] arudha lagna 7th house query *hare rama krsna* Dear Ram , Namaskar Shani in sixth is best placed as it has drsti on Upachayas. Still it can be bad for lordship if other yoga is blocking. Shani in second has nothing to do with father. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) <rafal%40rohinaa.com> com SkypeID: jyotraff1 Consultations & Articles: http://rohinaa. <http://rohinaa.com> com Ram Jaswal napisa?(a): > > Namaste Kishore > > Glad you agree with my earlier comments re:Sani good for Native But > Not for > Father (see Group email #97896) .. > > Though I beg to differ with regards to it being " nothing to with lord " > comment - normally Sani in 6th Hse is Not considered to be a " bad " > placement as being in a Upachaya Hse as well as being a Karaka for the 6th > Hse. It is primarily the reason that it signifies " Father " that it is > " bad " > being placed in 2nd Hse. > > Best wishes ... > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > > _____ > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40> > [vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>] On Behalf Of kishore patnaik > 17 November 2007 02:11 > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40> > Re: [vedic astrology] arudha lagna 7th house query > > Dear Ram Jaswal, > > Saturn in 2nd is per se bad for father, since Saturn signfies father for > certain births. It has nothing to with lord > Similarly, we have to note that in general, Occupation of 2nd by 9th and > 10th Lord/s is good, because it enhances wealth and prosperity of the > native. > > Combining the above two, we can further that Saturn is a yoga karaka also. > Thus, he would spoil father's propserity but will help native, if > strong and > help native' relatives , if weak. > > Hope this clarifies, > > regards, > > Kishore patnaik > 98492 70729 > > On 11/16/07, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) <rkjaswal% > 40tiscali. co.uk> > co.uk> wrote: > > > > Namaste Bhagavathi > > > > Father's wealth being depleted is I guess understandable as Sat (9th & > > 10th > > Lord - Father and his wealth) has gone to 2nd House (ie 6th from 9th > > House). > > Can you either supply the Chart details or Venus's & Mercury's placement > > as > > to better understand Maternal uncle's progress .. > > > > Best wishes ... > > > > Jai Sita Ram > > > > Ram > > > > _____ > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic- astrology% 40. com> > . com <vedic astrology% 40. com> > > [vedic- astrology@ <vedic- astrology% 40. com> > . com<vedic- astrology% 40. com>] > > On Behalf Of bhagavathi_harihara n > > 14 November 2007 16:35 > > vedic astrology@ <vedic- astrology% 40. com> > . com <vedic astrology% 40. com> > > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha lagna 7th house query > > > > Kishoreji, > > > > Is this general reaoning about saturn in second be felt only during > > saturn dasa. I see this true for a little boy who is born in saturn > > dasa. Vrishabh lagna, saturn in gemini. His father had zero income > > ever since he was born. However, maternal uncles have made very good > > progrss!!! > > > > Please share your knowledge > > > > bhagavathi > > > > -- In vedic astrology@ <vedic- astrology% 40. com> > > . com, " kishore patnaik " > > <kishorepatnaik09@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear rishabh, > > > > > > It is one thing to say things in general - as given in classics or > > on the > > > basis of general reasoning: saturn in 2nd in scorpio will effect > > your father > > > in a very secretive way. Your father is likely to have more lady > > enemies- > > > say his sisters or lady colleagues etc. The saturn stalls your > > income on one > > > hand and ensures an average income in times of difficulty being > > yoga karaka. > > > He asepcts 11th house hence, he may adversely effect your > > benefectors. Being > > > in 2nd house and if he is otherwise weak, he would be favoring the > > mother's > > > brothers, rather than the native himself especially during the > > saturn dasa. > > > > > > On the other hand, It is very difficult to say how one's career > > would be on > > > the basis of just one planet for a specific chart. . You would > > notice that > > > Saturn is a YK to Libra lagna and he is placed in 2nd house. 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Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Namaste Bhagavathi Thanks for the feedback regarding the Maternal Uncles ... I wasn't sure as to whether the 2nd Elder (ie Eldest sibling of the two) was an Uncle or Masi - hence my earlier question which you have kindly answered. Note Mars is Lord (12th Lord) placed in 10th Hse (ie 11th from 12th Hse) aspected by Sun, Venus and Jupiter from 4th Hse (5th Hse from 12th Hse) which explains the money and good position. The reason for the 2nd Eldest Uncle (Mercury Lord) Not being wealthy is primarily due to 2nd Lord (Moon) being debilitated in the 6th Hse. Regarding affliction to Sun - yes even though he is in moolatrikona and vargottama Sani's aspects are Never beneficial to Sun. Re: Mars being Retrograde and hence is weak isn't something I ascribe to. Don't forget Mars being in Sani's Hse and depositing Rahu will convey their afflictions to Sun. Best wishes ... Jai Sita Ram Ram _____ vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of bhagavathi_hariharan 17 November 2007 03:48 vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: arudha lagna 7th house query Jaswalji, Your analysis seems to make sense. But still I am little confused about the affliction of Sun. First, Sun is in moolatrikona and vargottama. As such Sun is strong. Saturn throws benefic aspect because being lord of kendra and yogakaraka. Rahu is in a benefic sign if considered in taurus and also in lagna, exalted hence should behave like a benefic. But the nodes actually fall in Mesha-tula axis. Hence, may not even cast an aspect. The only direct aspect then will be mars. But Mars is weak being retrogade. Mars is also the lord of a kendra and Rasi-adhipati. So, Sun is afflicted maybe only to a mild extent. About the uncles, mother has two elder brothers and one younger- younger is the richest, second elder has a near fame status though not wealthy, the first elder is in a good standing position and money wise by Indian standards. The second elder and the younger made huge progress after this boy was born. I would like to know of your opinion about elder sister of the mother assuming there is one. My namaskars Mrs. bhagavathi vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> , " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal wrote: > > Namaste Bhagavathi > > Thanks for the reply - I am assuming Asc is 21Tau46? Appreciate Sani is > benefic for Taurus/Libra ascendants ie for the Native himself But Not > necessarily for another relative. As previously mentioned Sani is Not well > placed as far as Father (9th Lord) is concerned being in the House of Debts > (6th) from the 9th Hse. Inaddition note Natural Karaka for Father (Sun) is > heavily afflicted by Sani, Mars and Rahu. > > As far as Maternal Uncles are concerned - 1st Younger Uncle Lord is > Venus(6th Lord) who is placed in the 4th Hse (11th from 6th Hse) whilst Moon > (10th Lord from 6th Hse) is placed in the 7th Hse (ie 2nd from 6th) leading > to great progress in career. > > Eldest Maternal Uncle Lord is Mercury (2nd Hse) who is exalted in 5th Hse > (ie 4th Hse from 2nd) whilst Jup (10th Lord from 2nd) is placed in the 4th > Hse (3rd from 2nd) in conjunction with Sun & Venus again leading to progress > in career though Not as great as the Younger Uncle. > > Is there an Elder Masi (Mothers sister)? > > Regards .. > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > > > _____ > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> ] On Behalf Of bhagavathi_hariharan > 16 November 2007 00:49 > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha lagna 7th house query > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > , " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal@> > wrote: > Jaswalji, > > The details are dob sept3, 2003 Time 00.53.00hrs, place lubbock, > texas, USA (Daylight savings time applicable). Mercury retrogade in > kanya as per JHora (in leo as per some panchangs), venus in 4th > alongwith Jupiter and Sun. Saturn, is a great benefic for taurus > lagna. One of his maternal uncles is nearing fame in his profession > while the others have made great progress in career. But father is > not doing well at all professionally. > > bhagavathi > > > > > Namaste Bhagavathi > > > > Father's wealth being depleted is I guess understandable as Sat > (9th & 10th > > Lord - Father and his wealth) has gone to 2nd House (ie 6th from > 9th House). > > Can you either supply the Chart details or Venus's & Mercury's > placement as > > to better understand Maternal uncle's progress .. > > > > Best wishes ... > > > > Jai Sita Ram > > > > Ram > > > > _____ > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology% 40> > ] On Behalf Of > bhagavathi_hariharan > > 14 November 2007 16:35 > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha lagna 7th house query > > > > Kishoreji, > > > > Is this general reaoning about saturn in second be felt only during > > saturn dasa. I see this true for a little boy who is born in saturn > > dasa. Vrishabh lagna, saturn in gemini. His father had zero income > > ever since he was born. However, maternal uncles have made very > good > > progrss!!! > > > > Please share your knowledge > > > > bhagavathi > > > > -- In vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > , " kishore patnaik " > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear rishabh, > > > > > > It is one thing to say things in general - as given in classics > or > > on the > > > basis of general reasoning: saturn in 2nd in scorpio will effect > > your father > > > in a very secretive way. Your father is likely to have more lady > > enemies- > > > say his sisters or lady colleagues etc. The saturn stalls your > > income on one > > > hand and ensures an average income in times of difficulty being > > yoga karaka. > > > He asepcts 11th house hence, he may adversely effect your > > benefectors. Being > > > in 2nd house and if he is otherwise weak, he would be favoring > the > > mother's > > > brothers, rather than the native himself especially during the > > saturn dasa. > > > > > > On the other hand, It is very difficult to say how one's career > > would be on > > > the basis of just one planet for a specific chart. . You would > > notice that > > > Saturn is a YK to Libra lagna and he is placed in 2nd house. He > > will be > > > aspecting 8th house, 4th house and 11th house, all being > important > > houses. > > > Hence, certainly it is necessary to see how he would act being in > > scorpio. > > > > > > I am sure the group will appreciate the need for holistic > treatment > > for > > > specific charts. > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > On 11/14/07, RISHABH JINDAL <rishabhjindal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > hello sir > > > > saturn is aspecting from the 2nd house in scorpio > > > > rashi and saturn is vargottama in the chart > > > > --- kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09@<kishorepatnaik09% > > 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://docs. <http://docs. <http://docs. <> /info/terms/> > /info/terms/> > /info/terms/> > > > > Recent Activity > > > > > > > > - 23 > > > > New Members<http://groups. <http://groups. > <http://groups. <vedic-> vedic-> vedic- > > > > vedic- > > > astrology/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYW9xcG0xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjk > > > wNDQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjg2BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzExOTUwM > > zExMzA-> > > > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > <http://groups. <http://groups. <http://groups. <vedic-> vedic-> > vedic-> > > vedic- > > > astrology;_ylc=X3oDMTJlODE4bmZrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjkwNDQEZ3J > > wc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjg2BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTE5NTAzMTEzMA- > -> > > > > Best of Y! 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Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 jaswalji, Thank you for helping me understand this. I appreciate your time. bhagavathi vedic astrology , " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal wrote: > > Namaste Bhagavathi > > Thanks for the feedback regarding the Maternal Uncles ... > > I wasn't sure as to whether the 2nd Elder (ie Eldest sibling of the two) was > an Uncle or Masi - hence my earlier question which you have kindly answered. > Note Mars is Lord (12th Lord) placed in 10th Hse (ie 11th from 12th Hse) > aspected by Sun, Venus and Jupiter from 4th Hse (5th Hse from 12th Hse) > which explains the money and good position. > > The reason for the 2nd Eldest Uncle (Mercury Lord) Not being wealthy is > primarily due to 2nd Lord (Moon) being debilitated in the 6th Hse. > > Regarding affliction to Sun - yes even though he is in moolatrikona and > vargottama Sani's aspects are Never beneficial to Sun. Re: Mars being > Retrograde and hence is weak isn't something I ascribe to. Don't forget Mars > being in Sani's Hse and depositing Rahu will convey their afflictions to > Sun. > > Best wishes ... > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > > _____ > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of bhagavathi_hariharan > 17 November 2007 03:48 > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha lagna 7th house query > > Jaswalji, > > Your analysis seems to make sense. But still I am little confused > about the affliction of Sun. First, Sun is in moolatrikona and > vargottama. As such Sun is strong. Saturn throws benefic aspect > because being lord of kendra and yogakaraka. Rahu is in a benefic > sign if considered in taurus and also in lagna, exalted hence should > behave like a benefic. But the nodes actually fall in Mesha-tula > axis. Hence, may not even cast an aspect. The only direct aspect then > will be mars. But Mars is weak being retrogade. Mars is also the lord > of a kendra and Rasi-adhipati. So, Sun is afflicted maybe only to a > mild extent. > > About the uncles, mother has two elder brothers and one younger- > younger is the richest, second elder has a near fame status though > not wealthy, the first elder is in a good standing position and money > wise by Indian standards. The second elder and the younger made huge > progress after this boy was born. > > I would like to know of your opinion about elder sister of the mother > assuming there is one. > > My namaskars > > Mrs. bhagavathi > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > , " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste Bhagavathi > > > > Thanks for the reply - I am assuming Asc is 21Tau46? Appreciate > Sani is > > benefic for Taurus/Libra ascendants ie for the Native himself But > Not > > necessarily for another relative. As previously mentioned Sani is > Not well > > placed as far as Father (9th Lord) is concerned being in the House > of Debts > > (6th) from the 9th Hse. Inaddition note Natural Karaka for Father > (Sun) is > > heavily afflicted by Sani, Mars and Rahu. > > > > As far as Maternal Uncles are concerned - 1st Younger Uncle Lord is > > Venus(6th Lord) who is placed in the 4th Hse (11th from 6th Hse) > whilst Moon > > (10th Lord from 6th Hse) is placed in the 7th Hse (ie 2nd from 6th) > leading > > to great progress in career. > > > > Eldest Maternal Uncle Lord is Mercury (2nd Hse) who is exalted in > 5th Hse > > (ie 4th Hse from 2nd) whilst Jup (10th Lord from 2nd) is placed in > the 4th > > Hse (3rd from 2nd) in conjunction with Sun & Venus again leading to > progress > > in career though Not as great as the Younger Uncle. > > > > Is there an Elder Masi (Mothers sister)? > > > > Regards .. > > > > Jai Sita Ram > > > > Ram > > > > > > _____ > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology% 40> > ] On Behalf Of > bhagavathi_hariharan > > 16 November 2007 00:49 > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha lagna 7th house query > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > , " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal@> > > wrote: > > Jaswalji, > > > > The details are dob sept3, 2003 Time 00.53.00hrs, place lubbock, > > texas, USA (Daylight savings time applicable). Mercury retrogade in > > kanya as per JHora (in leo as per some panchangs), venus in 4th > > alongwith Jupiter and Sun. Saturn, is a great benefic for taurus > > lagna. One of his maternal uncles is nearing fame in his profession > > while the others have made great progress in career. But father is > > not doing well at all professionally. > > > > bhagavathi > > > > > > > > Namaste Bhagavathi > > > > > > Father's wealth being depleted is I guess understandable as Sat > > (9th & 10th > > > Lord - Father and his wealth) has gone to 2nd House (ie 6th from > > 9th House). > > > Can you either supply the Chart details or Venus's & Mercury's > > placement as > > > to better understand Maternal uncle's progress .. > > > > > > Best wishes ... > > > > > > Jai Sita Ram > > > > > > Ram > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology% 40> > > > > > [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology% > 40> > > ] On Behalf Of > > bhagavathi_hariharan > > > 14 November 2007 16:35 > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha lagna 7th house query > > > > > > Kishoreji, > > > > > > Is this general reaoning about saturn in second be felt only > during > > > saturn dasa. I see this true for a little boy who is born in > saturn > > > dasa. Vrishabh lagna, saturn in gemini. His father had zero > income > > > ever since he was born. However, maternal uncles have made very > > good > > > progrss!!! > > > > > > Please share your knowledge > > > > > > bhagavathi > > > > > > -- In vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology% 40> > > > , " kishore patnaik " > > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear rishabh, > > > > > > > > It is one thing to say things in general - as given in classics > > or > > > on the > > > > basis of general reasoning: saturn in 2nd in scorpio will > effect > > > your father > > > > in a very secretive way. Your father is likely to have more > lady > > > enemies- > > > > say his sisters or lady colleagues etc. The saturn stalls your > > > income on one > > > > hand and ensures an average income in times of difficulty being > > > yoga karaka. > > > > He asepcts 11th house hence, he may adversely effect your > > > benefectors. Being > > > > in 2nd house and if he is otherwise weak, he would be favoring > > the > > > mother's > > > > brothers, rather than the native himself especially during the > > > saturn dasa. > > > > > > > > On the other hand, It is very difficult to say how one's career > > > would be on > > > > the basis of just one planet for a specific chart. . You would > > > notice that > > > > Saturn is a YK to Libra lagna and he is placed in 2nd house. 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