Guest guest Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 hare rama krsna Dear Tattvamasi , Namaskar My comments below. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal SkypeID: jyotraff1 Consultations & Articles: http://rohinaa.com Tatvam-Asi napisa³(a): > > Dear Chi,Rafal, > > I am surprised to read your post. > There is no end to knowledge and no end to process of learning and evolving. > There is nothing like last word on anything as a matter of fact. > > Science of astrology and its principles were formed by Rshis,. Nowhere any ancient astrologer of even Parashara Muni or Varaha mihira has written that what they have written is the last word on astrology .. [rafal] There are three kinds of pramana. For brahmins (only they should study Jyotisha - Prasna Marga sloka) ¶abda-pramana (spiritual injunction) MUST BE final. What this means? It means that through anumana (reasoning) and pratyaksa (perception) we should understand and appreciate genius and depth of sabda. If we change ¶abda then we are loosing faith. This ends up in loosing blessings of Rsis. > > . > My direct question to you is about karakatva. > Ancient astrologers and Munis gave karakatva based on that age's prevailing circumstances and fields or things. But with advancement of man, a lot many new things came about. And Vedic astrology has no clue to certain or most of the things we have today. [rafal] I think You know that karakatwa contains two factors. Root factor which is unchangeable and ALWAYS THE SAME, and the Detail factor which depends on kala/desa/patra. Inteligent Jyotisha applies details depending on times, but the root ALWAYS STAYS THE SAME. This is the proper understanding by which You will get the best results. Otherwise if You change the CORE of Rsis teaching You will be lost in Your speculation. When the memory is lost one becomes fallen (bhagavad gita). > > > One example I can give is Karakatva of planets. > > Can you tell me which planet is Karaka of Computer science and why? [rafal] Ketu for electronics, Budha for languages. I have hundreds charts for this. > > Which planet is karaka of electronics and why? [rafal] Ketu. Mangal shows engineering, subtle form of Mangal is Ketu. Mangal is red, Ketu is infrared, so electronics is like subtle engineering. Easy.. > > Which planet rules over Space craft and why? [rafal] Depends on element/work. Ketu shows upward direction (moksha), Rahu is for investigation. Shukra controls travels. > > Which planet rules over Robot and why? [rafal] Its machine..Rahu. > > > I am sure that you would have no firm answer to these questions.This is because what you know is what you know from astrology you have learnt and you do not want to look further than that. [rafal] This is due to my Shani exalted 9L in fifth bhava Vargottama. Im deadly serious about tradition and ¶abda. > > > We have to evolve ourself as well as evolve and broaden the principles and scope of astrology. Unless we keep an open mind, this is not possible. [rafal] Yes, we should apply changing details to ETERNAL CORE. Im sure You can understand the rest. > > Astological fundamentalism is a self defeating thing. > Gyan is like Ganga. The more it flows and absorbs other streams , it does not broaden and become useful nad become perpetual. No use to be a pond which ultimately dries out. > > If you feel bad, I am sorry but I am against anything which calls itself ultimate (except God) > or is touted as the ultimate . > > Tatvam-Asi > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Saumya , Namaskar > > Better stick to classics and ignore everything which is contradictory. > Work is represented by Budha, Surya, Guru and Shani. Budha is the > primary karaka as it shows learning, communication and skills. Mars > wants conclusion and altough it has digbal in tenth bhava it is enemy > for Buddha and will show obstruction to gaining new knowledge/curiosity . > Instead talking and communication is very helpful in finishing projects > (tenth bhava). > > Some here say that Jupiter shows speech, while Budha is for memory. This > is against Rsis teaching. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > SkypeID: jyotraff1 > Consultations & Articles: http://rohinaa. com > > saumya ray chaudhuri napisa?(a): > > > > Respected Rafal Ji and other members, > > Since my childhood, I (most of us too) am familiar with the above > > dictum. I just want to justify the above saying from astrological > > point of view. > > > > Work means action which is represented by Mars. Talk or speech is > > goverened by Mercury. They are inimical to each other. > > > > Does it justify the above saying. > > > > Kindly criticize. > > > > Sincerely > > Pranam > > Saumya > > > > Saumya Ray Chaudhuri > > IMTECH,Sector 39A, Chandigarh-160036 > > 09417727654 > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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