Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Even if we use this particular birth data(23rd june 1953, 16:30, karachi), the ascendant falls in the 1st degree of scorpio-sidereal in most astro programs that i use(including astrodientist). p.o.l vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: > > This birth data is a surprise package. I checked using my method. I could not convince myself that this is the correct data? > Can the source be varified? > > Tatvam-Asi > > Meen Lagna <meenalagna wrote: > " Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaaya " > Dear TW, > Shree KN Rao has been using the following details for Benazir Bhutto > as:- > > 23rd June, 1953. > 16:30 > Karachi > Tula Lagna, Tula Rashi. > He well predicted about this massacre with these details. > http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php? > category_id=15 & article_id=98 > You can kindly review about his works. > Thanks!!! > Meen Lagna. > > vedic astrology , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > BB, 21-06-1953, 19:32PM, Karachi, Asc Sg 09:35:58 > > > > 1.1st cuspal sublord is Sa(10,2,3) in the star of Ma(7,5,12) and > sub > > of Ju(6,1,4). > > Ma Asp Sa (4th Asp) Sa Asp Ma (10th Asp). 2= Maraka, 7= Maraka & > > Badhaka and so sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (12) and > is > > connected to Ma, Sa. > > > > (Her father's 1st cuspal sublord also signifies Badhaka, Badhaka, > > Maraka, Moksha, and is connected to Ma, Sa,Ke. He was hanged in > his > > Sa-Ma-Ju DBA. Ref: Bhatt: Further Lights on Nakshatra Chintamani, > > page 43-48) > > > > 2. 8th cuspal sublord is Ra Asp by Ma(7,5,12), Asp by Me(7,7,10). > > Sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (12) and is connected to > > Ma. > > > > 3. 27-12-2007 (Sa-Ju-Sa-Su DBAS) > > > > Dasa and Anthra lord Sa is explained above. > > Bhukti lord Ju(6,1,4) is in the star of Mo(10,8) and sub of Sa > > (10,2,3). > > Sookshma lord Su(6,9) is in the star of Ra(7,5,12,10) and sub of > Ra > > (7,5,12,10). > > > > DBAS signifies Maraka, Badhaka, Moksha, 8, 4, 10 and connected to > Ma. > > > > 4 (end of everything/death) is usually found in accidental death. > > 10( retirement from this world is usually found in the death of > > notable people) > > > > 4. Father was hanged in Ja-Sa-Ra-Mo and became PM first time in Ju- > > Ra-Ju-Ju, second time Sa-Sa-Ju-Ve. Sa (in 10 like Napoleon and > > Hitler) and Ju are good and bad for her. That is why no planet is > > purely good or bad. > > > > 5. This TOB may be applicable. As it was not sure which TOB is > > reliable, Kanak opted correct Horary prediction, which was > attached > > in the previous mail. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Amer Abbas bhai, > > > > > > I am deeply indebted to you for quick response with correct > > birth data. > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > Amer Abbas <farg135@> wrote: > > > Dear Friends > > > > > > Ex Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto was today > assasinated > > at > > > around 16:00.... 27th Dec 2007 > > > > > > Following data has been used since 1988 by most leading > > astrologers > > > of Pakistan as it was passed by one of her faamily members to > one > > of > > > my Gurus... > > > > > > Birth Data > > > > > > Benazir BHUTTO > > > Jun 21 1953, 7:32 pm, USZ4 -5:00 > > > Karachi Pakistan, 24°N52', 067°E03' > > > > > > Amer Shah > > > Pakistan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > > Search. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 " Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaaya " Dear Tatvamasiji & P.O.L., Even i used that data, & found the Lagna to be Scorpio (0degrees)...then to comply with the given lagna as KN Rao said in his web. i have to change the time to at least 16:25, rest data being same. This data is claimed to have been received from Natwar Singh, by Shree K.N.Rao. Thanks!!! Meen Lagna. vedic astrology , " PLIGHTOFLIGHT " <coolpranjal wrote: > > Even if we use this particular birth data(23rd june 1953, 16:30, > karachi), the ascendant falls in the 1st degree of scorpio- sidereal > in most astro programs that i use(including astrodientist). > p.o.l > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> > wrote: > > > > This birth data is a surprise package. I checked using my method. I > could not convince myself that this is the correct data? > > Can the source be varified? > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > Meen Lagna <meenalagna@> wrote: > > " Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaaya " > > Dear TW, > > Shree KN Rao has been using the following details for Benazir > Bhutto > > as:- > > > > 23rd June, 1953. > > 16:30 > > Karachi > > Tula Lagna, Tula Rashi. > > He well predicted about this massacre with these details. > > http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php? > > category_id=15 & article_id=98 > > You can kindly review about his works. > > Thanks!!! > > Meen Lagna. > > > > vedic astrology , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > BB, 21-06-1953, 19:32PM, Karachi, Asc Sg 09:35:58 > > > > > > 1.1st cuspal sublord is Sa(10,2,3) in the star of Ma(7,5,12) and > > sub > > > of Ju(6,1,4). > > > Ma Asp Sa (4th Asp) Sa Asp Ma (10th Asp). 2= Maraka, 7= Maraka & > > > Badhaka and so sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (12) and > > is > > > connected to Ma, Sa. > > > > > > (Her father's 1st cuspal sublord also signifies Badhaka, Badhaka, > > > Maraka, Moksha, and is connected to Ma, Sa,Ke. He was hanged in > > his > > > Sa-Ma-Ju DBA. Ref: Bhatt: Further Lights on Nakshatra Chintamani, > > > page 43-48) > > > > > > 2. 8th cuspal sublord is Ra Asp by Ma(7,5,12), Asp by Me (7,7,10). > > > Sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (12) and is connected > to > > > Ma. > > > > > > 3. 27-12-2007 (Sa-Ju-Sa-Su DBAS) > > > > > > Dasa and Anthra lord Sa is explained above. > > > Bhukti lord Ju(6,1,4) is in the star of Mo(10,8) and sub of Sa > > > (10,2,3). > > > Sookshma lord Su(6,9) is in the star of Ra(7,5,12,10) and sub of > > Ra > > > (7,5,12,10). > > > > > > DBAS signifies Maraka, Badhaka, Moksha, 8, 4, 10 and connected to > > Ma. > > > > > > 4 (end of everything/death) is usually found in accidental death. > > > 10( retirement from this world is usually found in the death of > > > notable people) > > > > > > 4. Father was hanged in Ja-Sa-Ra-Mo and became PM first time in > Ju- > > > Ra-Ju-Ju, second time Sa-Sa-Ju-Ve. Sa (in 10 like Napoleon and > > > Hitler) and Ju are good and bad for her. That is why no planet is > > > purely good or bad. > > > > > > 5. This TOB may be applicable. As it was not sure which TOB is > > > reliable, Kanak opted correct Horary prediction, which was > > attached > > > in the previous mail. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Amer Abbas bhai, > > > > > > > > I am deeply indebted to you for quick response with correct > > > birth data. > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > Amer Abbas <farg135@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends > > > > > > > > Ex Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto was today > > assasinated > > > at > > > > around 16:00.... 27th Dec 2007 > > > > > > > > Following data has been used since 1988 by most leading > > > astrologers > > > > of Pakistan as it was passed by one of her faamily members to > > one > > > of > > > > my Gurus... > > > > > > > > Birth Data > > > > > > > > Benazir BHUTTO > > > > Jun 21 1953, 7:32 pm, USZ4 -5:00 > > > > Karachi Pakistan, 24°N52', 067°E03' > > > > > > > > Amer Shah > > > > Pakistan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > > > Search. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Dear friend, I do not believe still , unless Natwarsingh himself endorses this statement. In Pakistani Astrological circle, the other time is circulating . Astro Imran has posted the birth perticulars which seem endorsed by most in pakistan. Tatvam-Asi Meen Lagna <meenalagna wrote: " Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaaya " Dear Tatvamasiji & P.O.L., Even i used that data, & found the Lagna to be Scorpio (0degrees)...then to comply with the given lagna as KN Rao said in his web. i have to change the time to at least 16:25, rest data being same. This data is claimed to have been received from Natwar Singh, by Shree K.N.Rao. Thanks!!! Meen Lagna. vedic astrology , " PLIGHTOFLIGHT " <coolpranjal wrote: > > Even if we use this particular birth data(23rd june 1953, 16:30, > karachi), the ascendant falls in the 1st degree of scorpio- sidereal > in most astro programs that i use(including astrodientist). > p.o.l > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> > wrote: > > > > This birth data is a surprise package. I checked using my method. I > could not convince myself that this is the correct data? > > Can the source be varified? > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > Meen Lagna <meenalagna@> wrote: > > " Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaaya " > > Dear TW, > > Shree KN Rao has been using the following details for Benazir > Bhutto > > as:- > > > > 23rd June, 1953. > > 16:30 > > Karachi > > Tula Lagna, Tula Rashi. > > He well predicted about this massacre with these details. > > http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php? > > category_id=15 & article_id=98 > > You can kindly review about his works. > > Thanks!!! > > Meen Lagna. > > > > vedic astrology , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > BB, 21-06-1953, 19:32PM, Karachi, Asc Sg 09:35:58 > > > > > > 1.1st cuspal sublord is Sa(10,2,3) in the star of Ma(7,5,12) and > > sub > > > of Ju(6,1,4). > > > Ma Asp Sa (4th Asp) Sa Asp Ma (10th Asp). 2= Maraka, 7= Maraka & > > > Badhaka and so sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (12) and > > is > > > connected to Ma, Sa. > > > > > > (Her father's 1st cuspal sublord also signifies Badhaka, Badhaka, > > > Maraka, Moksha, and is connected to Ma, Sa,Ke. He was hanged in > > his > > > Sa-Ma-Ju DBA. Ref: Bhatt: Further Lights on Nakshatra Chintamani, > > > page 43-48) > > > > > > 2. 8th cuspal sublord is Ra Asp by Ma(7,5,12), Asp by Me (7,7,10). > > > Sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (12) and is connected > to > > > Ma. > > > > > > 3. 27-12-2007 (Sa-Ju-Sa-Su DBAS) > > > > > > Dasa and Anthra lord Sa is explained above. > > > Bhukti lord Ju(6,1,4) is in the star of Mo(10,8) and sub of Sa > > > (10,2,3). > > > Sookshma lord Su(6,9) is in the star of Ra(7,5,12,10) and sub of > > Ra > > > (7,5,12,10). > > > > > > DBAS signifies Maraka, Badhaka, Moksha, 8, 4, 10 and connected to > > Ma. > > > > > > 4 (end of everything/death) is usually found in accidental death. > > > 10( retirement from this world is usually found in the death of > > > notable people) > > > > > > 4. Father was hanged in Ja-Sa-Ra-Mo and became PM first time in > Ju- > > > Ra-Ju-Ju, second time Sa-Sa-Ju-Ve. Sa (in 10 like Napoleon and > > > Hitler) and Ju are good and bad for her. That is why no planet is > > > purely good or bad. > > > > > > 5. This TOB may be applicable. As it was not sure which TOB is > > > reliable, Kanak opted correct Horary prediction, which was > > attached > > > in the previous mail. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Amer Abbas bhai, > > > > > > > > I am deeply indebted to you for quick response with correct > > > birth data. > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > Amer Abbas <farg135@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends > > > > > > > > Ex Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto was today > > assasinated > > > at > > > > around 16:00.... 27th Dec 2007 > > > > > > > > Following data has been used since 1988 by most leading > > > astrologers > > > > of Pakistan as it was passed by one of her faamily members to > > one > > > of > > > > my Gurus... > > > > > > > > Birth Data > > > > > > > > Benazir BHUTTO > > > > Jun 21 1953, 7:32 pm, USZ4 -5:00 > > > > Karachi Pakistan, 24°N52', 067°E03' > > > > > > > > Amer Shah > > > > Pakistan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > > > Search. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 furthermore, probably just by co-incidence, if we apply raman ayanamsa to the said birth data(23/6/1953,16:30,karachi) we arrive to ven-ven-sun in vimshottari dasha, venus is the lord of the seventh and sun in posited in 8th. P.O.L. vedic astrology , " Meen Lagna " <meenalagna wrote: > > " Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaaya " > Dear Tatvamasiji & P.O.L., > Even i used that data, & found the Lagna to be Scorpio > (0degrees)...then to comply with the given lagna as KN Rao said in > his web. i have to change the time to at least 16:25, rest data > being same. > This data is claimed to have been received from Natwar Singh, by > Shree K.N.Rao. > Thanks!!! > Meen Lagna. > > vedic astrology , " PLIGHTOFLIGHT " > <coolpranjal@> wrote: > > > > Even if we use this particular birth data(23rd june 1953, 16:30, > > karachi), the ascendant falls in the 1st degree of scorpio- > sidereal > > in most astro programs that i use(including astrodientist). > > p.o.l > > > > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> > > wrote: > > > > > > This birth data is a surprise package. I checked using my > method. I > > could not convince myself that this is the correct data? > > > Can the source be varified? > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > Meen Lagna <meenalagna@> wrote: > > > " Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaaya " > > > Dear TW, > > > Shree KN Rao has been using the following details for Benazir > > Bhutto > > > as:- > > > > > > 23rd June, 1953. > > > 16:30 > > > Karachi > > > Tula Lagna, Tula Rashi. > > > He well predicted about this massacre with these details. > > > http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php? > > > category_id=15 & article_id=98 > > > You can kindly review about his works. > > > Thanks!!! > > > Meen Lagna. > > > > > > vedic astrology , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > BB, 21-06-1953, 19:32PM, Karachi, Asc Sg 09:35:58 > > > > > > > > 1.1st cuspal sublord is Sa(10,2,3) in the star of Ma(7,5,12) > and > > > sub > > > > of Ju(6,1,4). > > > > Ma Asp Sa (4th Asp) Sa Asp Ma (10th Asp). 2= Maraka, 7= Maraka > & > > > > Badhaka and so sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (12) > and > > > is > > > > connected to Ma, Sa. > > > > > > > > (Her father's 1st cuspal sublord also signifies Badhaka, > Badhaka, > > > > Maraka, Moksha, and is connected to Ma, Sa,Ke. He was hanged > in > > > his > > > > Sa-Ma-Ju DBA. Ref: Bhatt: Further Lights on Nakshatra > Chintamani, > > > > page 43-48) > > > > > > > > 2. 8th cuspal sublord is Ra Asp by Ma(7,5,12), Asp by Me > (7,7,10). > > > > Sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (12) and is > connected > > to > > > > Ma. > > > > > > > > 3. 27-12-2007 (Sa-Ju-Sa-Su DBAS) > > > > > > > > Dasa and Anthra lord Sa is explained above. > > > > Bhukti lord Ju(6,1,4) is in the star of Mo(10,8) and sub of Sa > > > > (10,2,3). > > > > Sookshma lord Su(6,9) is in the star of Ra(7,5,12,10) and sub > of > > > Ra > > > > (7,5,12,10). > > > > > > > > DBAS signifies Maraka, Badhaka, Moksha, 8, 4, 10 and connected > to > > > Ma. > > > > > > > > 4 (end of everything/death) is usually found in accidental > death. > > > > 10( retirement from this world is usually found in the death > of > > > > notable people) > > > > > > > > 4. Father was hanged in Ja-Sa-Ra-Mo and became PM first time > in > > Ju- > > > > Ra-Ju-Ju, second time Sa-Sa-Ju-Ve. Sa (in 10 like Napoleon and > > > > Hitler) and Ju are good and bad for her. That is why no planet > is > > > > purely good or bad. > > > > > > > > 5. This TOB may be applicable. As it was not sure which TOB is > > > > reliable, Kanak opted correct Horary prediction, which was > > > attached > > > > in the previous mail. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi > <nameisego@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Amer Abbas bhai, > > > > > > > > > > I am deeply indebted to you for quick response with correct > > > > birth data. > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > Amer Abbas <farg135@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends > > > > > > > > > > Ex Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto was today > > > assasinated > > > > at > > > > > around 16:00.... 27th Dec 2007 > > > > > > > > > > Following data has been used since 1988 by most leading > > > > astrologers > > > > > of Pakistan as it was passed by one of her faamily members > to > > > one > > > > of > > > > > my Gurus... > > > > > > > > > > Birth Data > > > > > > > > > > Benazir BHUTTO > > > > > Jun 21 1953, 7:32 pm, USZ4 -5:00 > > > > > Karachi Pakistan, 24°N52', 067°E03' > > > > > > > > > > Amer Shah > > > > > Pakistan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > > > > Search. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 " Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaaya " Dear Mr.Tatvamasiji, I never compelled you to believe it. It depends on ur take in this regard, be the time floated in Pakistan...or the time opined by K N Rao.If someone mentions the source of the birthdata in a public website...then i consider that we shall respect those words... Thanks!!! Meen Lagna. vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: > > Dear friend, > > I do not believe still , unless Natwarsingh himself endorses this statement. > In Pakistani Astrological circle, the other time is circulating . > Astro Imran has posted the birth perticulars which seem endorsed by most in pakistan. > > Tatvam-Asi > > Meen Lagna <meenalagna wrote: > " Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaaya " > Dear Tatvamasiji & P.O.L., > Even i used that data, & found the Lagna to be Scorpio > (0degrees)...then to comply with the given lagna as KN Rao said in > his web. i have to change the time to at least 16:25, rest data > being same. > This data is claimed to have been received from Natwar Singh, by > Shree K.N.Rao. > Thanks!!! > Meen Lagna. > > vedic astrology , " PLIGHTOFLIGHT " > <coolpranjal@> wrote: > > > > Even if we use this particular birth data(23rd june 1953, 16:30, > > karachi), the ascendant falls in the 1st degree of scorpio- > sidereal > > in most astro programs that i use(including astrodientist). > > p.o.l > > > > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> > > wrote: > > > > > > This birth data is a surprise package. I checked using my > method. I > > could not convince myself that this is the correct data? > > > Can the source be varified? > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > Meen Lagna <meenalagna@> wrote: > > > " Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaaya " > > > Dear TW, > > > Shree KN Rao has been using the following details for Benazir > > Bhutto > > > as:- > > > > > > 23rd June, 1953. > > > 16:30 > > > Karachi > > > Tula Lagna, Tula Rashi. > > > He well predicted about this massacre with these details. > > > http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php? > > > category_id=15 & article_id=98 > > > You can kindly review about his works. > > > Thanks!!! > > > Meen Lagna. > > > > > > vedic astrology , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > BB, 21-06-1953, 19:32PM, Karachi, Asc Sg 09:35:58 > > > > > > > > 1.1st cuspal sublord is Sa(10,2,3) in the star of Ma(7,5,12) > and > > > sub > > > > of Ju(6,1,4). > > > > Ma Asp Sa (4th Asp) Sa Asp Ma (10th Asp). 2= Maraka, 7= Maraka > & > > > > Badhaka and so sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (12) > and > > > is > > > > connected to Ma, Sa. > > > > > > > > (Her father's 1st cuspal sublord also signifies Badhaka, > Badhaka, > > > > Maraka, Moksha, and is connected to Ma, Sa,Ke. He was hanged > in > > > his > > > > Sa-Ma-Ju DBA. Ref: Bhatt: Further Lights on Nakshatra > Chintamani, > > > > page 43-48) > > > > > > > > 2. 8th cuspal sublord is Ra Asp by Ma(7,5,12), Asp by Me > (7,7,10). > > > > Sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (12) and is > connected > > to > > > > Ma. > > > > > > > > 3. 27-12-2007 (Sa-Ju-Sa-Su DBAS) > > > > > > > > Dasa and Anthra lord Sa is explained above. > > > > Bhukti lord Ju(6,1,4) is in the star of Mo(10,8) and sub of Sa > > > > (10,2,3). > > > > Sookshma lord Su(6,9) is in the star of Ra(7,5,12,10) and sub > of > > > Ra > > > > (7,5,12,10). > > > > > > > > DBAS signifies Maraka, Badhaka, Moksha, 8, 4, 10 and connected > to > > > Ma. > > > > > > > > 4 (end of everything/death) is usually found in accidental > death. > > > > 10( retirement from this world is usually found in the death > of > > > > notable people) > > > > > > > > 4. Father was hanged in Ja-Sa-Ra-Mo and became PM first time > in > > Ju- > > > > Ra-Ju-Ju, second time Sa-Sa-Ju-Ve. Sa (in 10 like Napoleon and > > > > Hitler) and Ju are good and bad for her. That is why no planet > is > > > > purely good or bad. > > > > > > > > 5. This TOB may be applicable. As it was not sure which TOB is > > > > reliable, Kanak opted correct Horary prediction, which was > > > attached > > > > in the previous mail. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi > <nameisego@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Amer Abbas bhai, > > > > > > > > > > I am deeply indebted to you for quick response with correct > > > > birth data. > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > Amer Abbas <farg135@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends > > > > > > > > > > Ex Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto was today > > > assasinated > > > > at > > > > > around 16:00.... 27th Dec 2007 > > > > > > > > > > Following data has been used since 1988 by most leading > > > > astrologers > > > > > of Pakistan as it was passed by one of her faamily members > to > > > one > > > > of > > > > > my Gurus... > > > > > > > > > > Birth Data > > > > > > > > > > Benazir BHUTTO > > > > > Jun 21 1953, 7:32 pm, USZ4 -5:00 > > > > > Karachi Pakistan, 24°N52', 067°E03' > > > > > > > > > > Amer Shah > > > > > Pakistan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Dear Meena Lagna, please do not feel bad. I am not trying to question you or your intentions. On the contrary, I must thank you for providing me with the data you have. As far as quoting the source in public web site,by Sjt. KN Rao, I reserve my comments. Tatvam-Asi Meen Lagna <meenalagna wrote: " Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaaya " Dear Mr.Tatvamasiji, I never compelled you to believe it. It depends on ur take in this regard, be the time floated in Pakistan...or the time opined by K N Rao.If someone mentions the source of the birthdata in a public website...then i consider that we shall respect those words... Thanks!!! Meen Lagna. vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: > > Dear friend, > > I do not believe still , unless Natwarsingh himself endorses this statement. > In Pakistani Astrological circle, the other time is circulating . > Astro Imran has posted the birth perticulars which seem endorsed by most in pakistan. > > Tatvam-Asi > > Meen Lagna <meenalagna wrote: > " Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaaya " > Dear Tatvamasiji & P.O.L., > Even i used that data, & found the Lagna to be Scorpio > (0degrees)...then to comply with the given lagna as KN Rao said in > his web. i have to change the time to at least 16:25, rest data > being same. > This data is claimed to have been received from Natwar Singh, by > Shree K.N.Rao. > Thanks!!! > Meen Lagna. > > vedic astrology , " PLIGHTOFLIGHT " > <coolpranjal@> wrote: > > > > Even if we use this particular birth data(23rd june 1953, 16:30, > > karachi), the ascendant falls in the 1st degree of scorpio- > sidereal > > in most astro programs that i use(including astrodientist). > > p.o.l > > > > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> > > wrote: > > > > > > This birth data is a surprise package. I checked using my > method. I > > could not convince myself that this is the correct data? > > > Can the source be varified? > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > Meen Lagna <meenalagna@> wrote: > > > " Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaaya " > > > Dear TW, > > > Shree KN Rao has been using the following details for Benazir > > Bhutto > > > as:- > > > > > > 23rd June, 1953. > > > 16:30 > > > Karachi > > > Tula Lagna, Tula Rashi. > > > He well predicted about this massacre with these details. > > > http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php? > > > category_id=15 & article_id=98 > > > You can kindly review about his works. > > > Thanks!!! > > > Meen Lagna. > > > > > > vedic astrology , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > BB, 21-06-1953, 19:32PM, Karachi, Asc Sg 09:35:58 > > > > > > > > 1.1st cuspal sublord is Sa(10,2,3) in the star of Ma(7,5,12) > and > > > sub > > > > of Ju(6,1,4). > > > > Ma Asp Sa (4th Asp) Sa Asp Ma (10th Asp). 2= Maraka, 7= Maraka > & > > > > Badhaka and so sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (12) > and > > > is > > > > connected to Ma, Sa. > > > > > > > > (Her father's 1st cuspal sublord also signifies Badhaka, > Badhaka, > > > > Maraka, Moksha, and is connected to Ma, Sa,Ke. He was hanged > in > > > his > > > > Sa-Ma-Ju DBA. Ref: Bhatt: Further Lights on Nakshatra > Chintamani, > > > > page 43-48) > > > > > > > > 2. 8th cuspal sublord is Ra Asp by Ma(7,5,12), Asp by Me > (7,7,10). > > > > Sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (12) and is > connected > > to > > > > Ma. > > > > > > > > 3. 27-12-2007 (Sa-Ju-Sa-Su DBAS) > > > > > > > > Dasa and Anthra lord Sa is explained above. > > > > Bhukti lord Ju(6,1,4) is in the star of Mo(10,8) and sub of Sa > > > > (10,2,3). > > > > Sookshma lord Su(6,9) is in the star of Ra(7,5,12,10) and sub > of > > > Ra > > > > (7,5,12,10). > > > > > > > > DBAS signifies Maraka, Badhaka, Moksha, 8, 4, 10 and connected > to > > > Ma. > > > > > > > > 4 (end of everything/death) is usually found in accidental > death. > > > > 10( retirement from this world is usually found in the death > of > > > > notable people) > > > > > > > > 4. Father was hanged in Ja-Sa-Ra-Mo and became PM first time > in > > Ju- > > > > Ra-Ju-Ju, second time Sa-Sa-Ju-Ve. Sa (in 10 like Napoleon and > > > > Hitler) and Ju are good and bad for her. That is why no planet > is > > > > purely good or bad. > > > > > > > > 5. This TOB may be applicable. As it was not sure which TOB is > > > > reliable, Kanak opted correct Horary prediction, which was > > > attached > > > > in the previous mail. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi > <nameisego@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Amer Abbas bhai, > > > > > > > > > > I am deeply indebted to you for quick response with correct > > > > birth data. > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > Amer Abbas <farg135@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends > > > > > > > > > > Ex Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto was today > > > assasinated > > > > at > > > > > around 16:00.... 27th Dec 2007 > > > > > > > > > > Following data has been used since 1988 by most leading > > > > astrologers > > > > > of Pakistan as it was passed by one of her faamily members > to > > > one > > > > of > > > > > my Gurus... > > > > > > > > > > Birth Data > > > > > > > > > > Benazir BHUTTO > > > > > Jun 21 1953, 7:32 pm, USZ4 -5:00 > > > > > Karachi Pakistan, 24°N52', 067°E03' > > > > > > > > > > Amer Shah > > > > > Pakistan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Dear Meenaji and Tatvamasiji, Considering the birth data to be correct, will it not be right then that the application of raman ayanamsha gives better result for vimshottari, however Sri K N Rao in his article talk about applying chara dasha and probably has rectified the birth time further for its application. I would request some feedback from the learned guruji's as to whether we to try apply various other dasha systems first or use the different ayanamsha for vimshottari calculations. I ask this question since Mr. K N Rao himself wouldnot recommend raman ayanamsha. Hope to get some feedback from the expierenced gurujis. hare krishna, pranjal vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: > > Dear Meena Lagna, > > please do not feel bad. I am not trying to question you or your intentions. On the contrary, I must thank you for providing me with the data you have. > > As far as quoting the source in public web site,by Sjt. KN Rao, I reserve my comments. > > Tatvam-Asi > > Meen Lagna <meenalagna wrote: > " Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaaya " > Dear Mr.Tatvamasiji, > I never compelled you to believe it. It depends on ur take in this > regard, be the time floated in Pakistan...or the time opined by K N > Rao.If someone mentions the source of the birthdata in a public > website...then i consider that we shall respect those words... > Thanks!!! > Meen Lagna. > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> > wrote: > > > > Dear friend, > > > > I do not believe still , unless Natwarsingh himself endorses > this statement. > > In Pakistani Astrological circle, the other time is circulating . > > Astro Imran has posted the birth perticulars which seem endorsed > by most in pakistan. > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > Meen Lagna <meenalagna@> wrote: > > " Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaaya " > > Dear Tatvamasiji & P.O.L., > > Even i used that data, & found the Lagna to be Scorpio > > (0degrees)...then to comply with the given lagna as KN Rao said in > > his web. i have to change the time to at least 16:25, rest data > > being same. > > This data is claimed to have been received from Natwar Singh, by > > Shree K.N.Rao. > > Thanks!!! > > Meen Lagna. > > > > vedic astrology , " PLIGHTOFLIGHT " > > <coolpranjal@> wrote: > > > > > > Even if we use this particular birth data(23rd june 1953, 16:30, > > > karachi), the ascendant falls in the 1st degree of scorpio- > > sidereal > > > in most astro programs that i use(including astrodientist). > > > p.o.l > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > This birth data is a surprise package. I checked using my > > method. I > > > could not convince myself that this is the correct data? > > > > Can the source be varified? > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > Meen Lagna <meenalagna@> wrote: > > > > " Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaaya " > > > > Dear TW, > > > > Shree KN Rao has been using the following details for Benazir > > > Bhutto > > > > as:- > > > > > > > > 23rd June, 1953. > > > > 16:30 > > > > Karachi > > > > Tula Lagna, Tula Rashi. > > > > He well predicted about this massacre with these details. > > > > http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php? > > > > category_id=15 & article_id=98 > > > > You can kindly review about his works. > > > > Thanks!!! > > > > Meen Lagna. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > BB, 21-06-1953, 19:32PM, Karachi, Asc Sg 09:35:58 > > > > > > > > > > 1.1st cuspal sublord is Sa(10,2,3) in the star of Ma (7,5,12) > > and > > > > sub > > > > > of Ju(6,1,4). > > > > > Ma Asp Sa (4th Asp) Sa Asp Ma (10th Asp). 2= Maraka, 7= > Maraka > > & > > > > > Badhaka and so sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha > (12) > > and > > > > is > > > > > connected to Ma, Sa. > > > > > > > > > > (Her father's 1st cuspal sublord also signifies Badhaka, > > Badhaka, > > > > > Maraka, Moksha, and is connected to Ma, Sa,Ke. He was hanged > > in > > > > his > > > > > Sa-Ma-Ju DBA. Ref: Bhatt: Further Lights on Nakshatra > > Chintamani, > > > > > page 43-48) > > > > > > > > > > 2. 8th cuspal sublord is Ra Asp by Ma(7,5,12), Asp by Me > > (7,7,10). > > > > > Sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (12) and is > > connected > > > to > > > > > Ma. > > > > > > > > > > 3. 27-12-2007 (Sa-Ju-Sa-Su DBAS) > > > > > > > > > > Dasa and Anthra lord Sa is explained above. > > > > > Bhukti lord Ju(6,1,4) is in the star of Mo(10,8) and sub of > Sa > > > > > (10,2,3). > > > > > Sookshma lord Su(6,9) is in the star of Ra(7,5,12,10) and > sub > > of > > > > Ra > > > > > (7,5,12,10). > > > > > > > > > > DBAS signifies Maraka, Badhaka, Moksha, 8, 4, 10 and > connected > > to > > > > Ma. > > > > > > > > > > 4 (end of everything/death) is usually found in accidental > > death. > > > > > 10( retirement from this world is usually found in the death > > of > > > > > notable people) > > > > > > > > > > 4. Father was hanged in Ja-Sa-Ra-Mo and became PM first time > > in > > > Ju- > > > > > Ra-Ju-Ju, second time Sa-Sa-Ju-Ve. Sa (in 10 like Napoleon > and > > > > > Hitler) and Ju are good and bad for her. That is why no > planet > > is > > > > > purely good or bad. > > > > > > > > > > 5. This TOB may be applicable. As it was not sure which TOB > is > > > > > reliable, Kanak opted correct Horary prediction, which was > > > > attached > > > > > in the previous mail. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi > > <nameisego@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Amer Abbas bhai, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am deeply indebted to you for quick response with > correct > > > > > birth data. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > Amer Abbas <farg135@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends > > > > > > > > > > > > Ex Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto was today > > > > assasinated > > > > > at > > > > > > around 16:00.... 27th Dec 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > Following data has been used since 1988 by most leading > > > > > astrologers > > > > > > of Pakistan as it was passed by one of her faamily members > > to > > > > one > > > > > of > > > > > > my Gurus... > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Data > > > > > > > > > > > > Benazir BHUTTO > > > > > > Jun 21 1953, 7:32 pm, USZ4 -5:00 > > > > > > Karachi Pakistan, 24°N52', 067°E03' > > > > > > > > > > > > Amer Shah > > > > > > Pakistan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 " Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaaya " Dear POL & Tatvamasiji, FYI.. http://journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=133 Thanks!!! Meen Lagna. vedic astrology , " PLIGHTOFLIGHT " <coolpranjal wrote: > > Dear Meenaji and Tatvamasiji, > Considering the birth data to be correct, will it not be right > then that the application of raman ayanamsha gives better result for > vimshottari, however Sri K N Rao in his article talk about applying > chara dasha and probably has rectified the birth time further for its > application. I would request some feedback from the learned guruji's > as to whether we to try apply various other dasha systems first or > use the different ayanamsha for vimshottari calculations. I ask this > question since Mr. K N Rao himself wouldnot recommend raman ayanamsha. > Hope to get some feedback from the expierenced gurujis. > hare krishna, > pranjal > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Meena Lagna, > > > > please do not feel bad. I am not trying to question you or your > intentions. On the contrary, I must thank you for providing me with > the data you have. > > > > As far as quoting the source in public web site,by Sjt. KN Rao, I > reserve my comments. > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > Meen Lagna <meenalagna@> wrote: > > " Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaaya " > > Dear Mr.Tatvamasiji, > > I never compelled you to believe it. It depends on ur take in this > > regard, be the time floated in Pakistan...or the time opined by K N > > Rao.If someone mentions the source of the birthdata in a public > > website...then i consider that we shall respect those words... > > Thanks!!! > > Meen Lagna. > > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > I do not believe still , unless Natwarsingh himself endorses > > this statement. > > > In Pakistani Astrological circle, the other time is circulating . > > > Astro Imran has posted the birth perticulars which seem endorsed > > by most in pakistan. > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > Meen Lagna <meenalagna@> wrote: > > > " Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaaya " > > > Dear Tatvamasiji & P.O.L., > > > Even i used that data, & found the Lagna to be Scorpio > > > (0degrees)...then to comply with the given lagna as KN Rao said > in > > > his web. i have to change the time to at least 16:25, rest data > > > being same. > > > This data is claimed to have been received from Natwar Singh, by > > > Shree K.N.Rao. > > > Thanks!!! > > > Meen Lagna. > > > > > > vedic astrology , " PLIGHTOFLIGHT " > > > <coolpranjal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Even if we use this particular birth data(23rd june 1953, > 16:30, > > > > karachi), the ascendant falls in the 1st degree of scorpio- > > > sidereal > > > > in most astro programs that i use(including astrodientist). > > > > p.o.l > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This birth data is a surprise package. I checked using my > > > method. I > > > > could not convince myself that this is the correct data? > > > > > Can the source be varified? > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > Meen Lagna <meenalagna@> wrote: > > > > > " Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaaya " > > > > > Dear TW, > > > > > Shree KN Rao has been using the following details for Benazir > > > > Bhutto > > > > > as:- > > > > > > > > > > 23rd June, 1953. > > > > > 16:30 > > > > > Karachi > > > > > Tula Lagna, Tula Rashi. > > > > > He well predicted about this massacre with these details. > > > > > http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php? > > > > > category_id=15 & article_id=98 > > > > > You can kindly review about his works. > > > > > Thanks!!! > > > > > Meen Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " tw853 " <tw853@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > BB, 21-06-1953, 19:32PM, Karachi, Asc Sg 09:35:58 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.1st cuspal sublord is Sa(10,2,3) in the star of Ma > (7,5,12) > > > and > > > > > sub > > > > > > of Ju(6,1,4). > > > > > > Ma Asp Sa (4th Asp) Sa Asp Ma (10th Asp). 2= Maraka, 7= > > Maraka > > > & > > > > > > Badhaka and so sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha > > (12) > > > and > > > > > is > > > > > > connected to Ma, Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > (Her father's 1st cuspal sublord also signifies Badhaka, > > > Badhaka, > > > > > > Maraka, Moksha, and is connected to Ma, Sa,Ke. He was > hanged > > > in > > > > > his > > > > > > Sa-Ma-Ju DBA. Ref: Bhatt: Further Lights on Nakshatra > > > Chintamani, > > > > > > page 43-48) > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. 8th cuspal sublord is Ra Asp by Ma(7,5,12), Asp by Me > > > (7,7,10). > > > > > > Sublord signified Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (12) and is > > > connected > > > > to > > > > > > Ma. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. 27-12-2007 (Sa-Ju-Sa-Su DBAS) > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa and Anthra lord Sa is explained above. > > > > > > Bhukti lord Ju(6,1,4) is in the star of Mo(10,8) and sub of > > Sa > > > > > > (10,2,3). > > > > > > Sookshma lord Su(6,9) is in the star of Ra(7,5,12,10) and > > sub > > > of > > > > > Ra > > > > > > (7,5,12,10). > > > > > > > > > > > > DBAS signifies Maraka, Badhaka, Moksha, 8, 4, 10 and > > connected > > > to > > > > > Ma. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 (end of everything/death) is usually found in accidental > > > death. > > > > > > 10( retirement from this world is usually found in the > death > > > of > > > > > > notable people) > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Father was hanged in Ja-Sa-Ra-Mo and became PM first > time > > > in > > > > Ju- > > > > > > Ra-Ju-Ju, second time Sa-Sa-Ju-Ve. Sa (in 10 like Napoleon > > and > > > > > > Hitler) and Ju are good and bad for her. That is why no > > planet > > > is > > > > > > purely good or bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. This TOB may be applicable. As it was not sure which TOB > > is > > > > > > reliable, Kanak opted correct Horary prediction, which was > > > > > attached > > > > > > in the previous mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amer Abbas bhai, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am deeply indebted to you for quick response with > > correct > > > > > > birth data. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amer Abbas <farg135@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ex Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto was today > > > > > assasinated > > > > > > at > > > > > > > around 16:00.... 27th Dec 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Following data has been used since 1988 by most leading > > > > > > astrologers > > > > > > > of Pakistan as it was passed by one of her faamily > members > > > to > > > > > one > > > > > > of > > > > > > > my Gurus... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Data > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Benazir BHUTTO > > > > > > > Jun 21 1953, 7:32 pm, USZ4 -5:00 > > > > > > > Karachi Pakistan, 24°N52', 067°E03' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amer Shah > > > > > > > Pakistan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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