Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Hare rama krishna , dear sudheer ji . I think this is abt the predictions of siva baba who is nadi guru and reader .But i dont hav good net connection at home to view this tube ..But i read the comments in the site and assumes that he predicted in favr of hillary clinton . also dont know how correct is his predictions tho logicaly the twist may be towards the favr of hillary clinton . Discussion we had in our grp was based on avilable birth charts and our analsysis was totaly based on vedic astro principles ,tho we know des ,kaal ,patra ,paristithi principle also applies here . It is just a discussion to see how the theoreys propounded by rishis r working or not ,but unfortunately we dont know which data is correct and authentic .Hence we r not afriad of failure of predictions . we r just learning discussing and re inventing and reserching the old and scattered and un organised principles in indian astrology . Any way thanks for the link . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . vedic astrology , Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon wrote: > > Namaste Sunil Ji, > > Please check this link.. > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=7RJhp-v6bCs & feature=related > > Namashivaya. > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > Hare ramakrishna , > dear chakravarthy ji . > > yes we can use moon as lagna Under 2 conditions one is if u know day and birth time is unknown and other is even if u know birth data correctly ,moon if aspected by guru or benefics like merc or moon aspected by dispositor ,in that case after 30 years u can use moon lagna also .SOme says we can use moon lagna irrespectiv of strenth of moon ..But i cannot vouch it as moon is in a rasi for 2and 1/4 days ,so it becomes too general approach .were as lagna is the 2hrs window and it narrow down the effects to minute levels. > > But in chart of obama which i posted moon is exlated ,u can see the post . > i dont know moon can be used in navamsa as lagna ,may be possible ,its a new thing and some one can help us this line . > > But the danger is when moon is last degree of a sign in early morning and if birth is later part of day rasi can be changed ,then also sub periods cant be dependable .AS it becomes tricky . > > Otherwise moon as 2nd lagna ,we can use it ,esp under the conditions i explained . > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > , " Chakraborty, PL " CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil-ji, > > > > I am a novice, so pardon my ignorance. > > > > My question is... > > > > In absence of correct lagna for both candidate, can we > > rely on Moon as lagna here ? For both rasi & navamsha ? > > > > Moon supposedly means the public and elections are > > decided by public votes. > > > > Also, debilitated moon for Obama - deb. may mean > > deb. quality - which would favor recent politics. > > > > As seen in many athletes, deb. mars giving a 'no holds barred' > > attitude & no reduction in strength (result-giving wise), can we > > treat debilitated moon like that also ? > > > > 'Looking forward to replies. > > > > Regards > > > > Chakraborty > > > > > > > > sunil nair [astro_tellerkerala@] > > Monday, February 11, 2008 8:43 AM > > > > Re: USA Elections - Analysis done on the > > 9th of March 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna , > > > > dear vijaya das ji , > > > > > > > > Good analysis .what is the data u used .How reliable is the data..now > > there is lot of versions of birth chart of mrs .clinton is doing rounds in > > net . > > > > > > > > Now any way this is going to be a unpredictable election as far logic is > > concerned .Generaly US public was against Non -white and also against a > > woman .But now in actual practise things r on the other way around . > > > > > > > > Now i was reading clinton s changed their campain manager and obama is > > winning in 4 states and narrowing the margin and giving a tight fight . > > > > > > > > From unforeseen quarters they r getting support .She is experienced and > > famous were as Obama is new and fresh face who has not proved yet ..But how > > this charishma happened ?all in a sudden . > > > > > > > > No logics ,may be if we can get correct and reliable birth charts we could > > able to ascertain correct reasons . > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Respected members > > > > > > Please find the analysis done by me during early 2006.Mesg No.10270 > > > in Jyotish Group list. > > > The period will be Ve-Sa.Sun may be the Pratyantara dasha running > > > during November.Sun is in Lagna - debilitated and attaining NBRY.From > > > my analysis,it looks like if God's grace is there Ms.Clinton is > > > likely to become presdient. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > Hillary Clinton - Possibility of Libra > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected members > > > > > > Thanks for the chart and possible times.I have tried to verify the > > > chart with events and Libra seems to give satisfactory results.Kindly > > > have a look. > > > > > > First of all a general observation (Libra and balance) > > > > > > During the 1992 presidential campaign, Hillary Rodham Clinton > > > observed, " Our lives are a mixture of different roles. Most of us are > > > doing the best we can to find whatever the right balance is . . . For > > > me, that balance is family, work, and service. " > > > ---- > > > ----------\ > > > ---- > > > ----------\ > > > --------- > > > 1)First attraction to politics(1964,Supporting Republican senator,at > > > the age of 16).Sa/Mo - Yogakaraka Shani and 10th lord Moon in > > > Parivartana. > > > > > > 2)President of Wellesley College Chapter(1965).Sa/Ma > > > > > > 3)Marriage(1975/Oct).Me-Ve. > > > Lagna as well as mercury are having navamsha in Gemini.Mercury is > > > aspecting seventh house,seventh lord is aspecting mercury.These make > > > mercury a possible candidate for marriage. > > > > > > Venus is Lagna lord associating Lagna navamsha lord.Venus is aspecting > > > 7th house, apart from having navamsha in the 7th from lagna, making it > > > a candidate for marriage.(Kindly see the usage of navamsha as found in > > > classics) > > > > > > 4)First Lady of Arkansas (1978).Me/Su > > > Mercury has brought her many luck.Mercury is ninth lord forming > > > Rajayoga in Lagna.Sun is 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga.Moreover > > > Lagna is having Bhagya navamsha.9th lord is aslo having bhahya > > > navamsha.Sun the antar-dasha,is the 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga. > > > > > > 5)1980,Child birth.Me-Mo as per Chandrahari ayanamsha.Moon is in the > > > fifth.(Mars is the antar dasha as per Lahiri) > > > > > > 6)Senate election - Ve/Mo > > > > > > If she is running for the 2008 november predidential,the period will > > > be VE-SA. Saturn yogakaraka is giving neechabhanga to 7th lord mars > > > placed in 10th and undergoing parivartana with 10th lord moon ..Good > > > period. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Namaste Sunil Ji, I was surfing Net, came across this vedio and thought will share with the group since we had mutiple discussions on USA elections. Dattatreya Siva Baba predicts the Democratic Primary Winner based on Vedic Astrology You are correct " he predicted in favour of Hillary Clinton " . Namashivaya sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare rama krishna , dear sudheer ji . I think this is abt the predictions of siva baba who is nadi guru and reader ..But i dont hav good net connection at home to view this tube .But i read the comments in the site and assumes that he predicted in favr of hillary clinton . also dont know how correct is his predictions tho logicaly the twist may be towards the favr of hillary clinton . Any way thanks for the link . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon wrote: > > Namaste Sunil Ji, > > Please check this link.. > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=7RJhp-v6bCs & feature=related > > Namashivaya. > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > Hare ramakrishna , > dear chakravarthy ji . > > yes we can use moon as lagna Under 2 conditions one is if u know day and birth time is unknown and other is even if u know birth data correctly ,moon if aspected by guru or benefics like merc or moon aspected by dispositor ,in that case after 30 years u can use moon lagna also .SOme says we can use moon lagna irrespectiv of strenth of moon .But i cannot vouch it as moon is in a rasi for 2and 1/4 days ,so it becomes too general approach .were as lagna is the 2hrs window and it narrow down the effects to minute levels. > > But in chart of obama which i posted moon is exlated ,u can see the post . > i dont know moon can be used in navamsa as lagna ,may be possible ,its a new thing and some one can help us this line . > > But the danger is when moon is last degree of a sign in early morning and if birth is later part of day rasi can be changed ,then also sub periods cant be dependable .AS it becomes tricky . > > Otherwise moon as 2nd lagna ,we can use it ,esp under the conditions i explained . > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > , " Chakraborty, PL " CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil-ji, > > > > I am a novice, so pardon my ignorance. > > > > My question is... > > > > In absence of correct lagna for both candidate, can we > > rely on Moon as lagna here ? For both rasi & navamsha ? > > > > Moon supposedly means the public and elections are > > decided by public votes. > > > > Also, debilitated moon for Obama - deb. may mean > > deb. quality - which would favor recent politics. > > > > As seen in many athletes, deb. mars giving a 'no holds barred' > > attitude & no reduction in strength (result-giving wise), can we > > treat debilitated moon like that also ? > > > > 'Looking forward to replies. > > > > Regards > > > > Chakraborty > > > > > > > > sunil nair [astro_tellerkerala@] > > Monday, February 11, 2008 8:43 AM > > > > Re: USA Elections - Analysis done on the > > 9th of March 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna , > > > > dear vijaya das ji , > > > > > > > > Good analysis .what is the data u used .How reliable is the data..now > > there is lot of versions of birth chart of mrs .clinton is doing rounds in > > net . > > > > > > > > Now any way this is going to be a unpredictable election as far logic is > > concerned .Generaly US public was against Non -white and also against a > > woman .But now in actual practise things r on the other way around . > > > > > > > > Now i was reading clinton s changed their campain manager and obama is > > winning in 4 states and narrowing the margin and giving a tight fight . > > > > > > > > From unforeseen quarters they r getting support .She is experienced and > > famous were as Obama is new and fresh face who has not proved yet .But how > > this charishma happened ?all in a sudden . > > > > > > > > No logics ,may be if we can get correct and reliable birth charts we could > > able to ascertain correct reasons . > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Respected members > > > > > > Please find the analysis done by me during early 2006.Mesg No.10270 > > > in Jyotish Group list. > > > The period will be Ve-Sa.Sun may be the Pratyantara dasha running > > > during November.Sun is in Lagna - debilitated and attaining NBRY.From > > > my analysis,it looks like if God's grace is there Ms.Clinton is > > > likely to become presdient. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > Hillary Clinton - Possibility of Libra > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected members > > > > > > Thanks for the chart and possible times.I have tried to verify the > > > chart with events and Libra seems to give satisfactory results.Kindly > > > have a look. > > > > > > First of all a general observation (Libra and balance) > > > > > > During the 1992 presidential campaign, Hillary Rodham Clinton > > > observed, " Our lives are a mixture of different roles. Most of us are > > > doing the best we can to find whatever the right balance is . . . For > > > me, that balance is family, work, and service. " > > > ---- > > > ----------\ > > > ---- > > > ----------\ > > > --------- > > > 1)First attraction to politics(1964,Supporting Republican senator,at > > > the age of 16).Sa/Mo - Yogakaraka Shani and 10th lord Moon in > > > Parivartana. > > > > > > 2)President of Wellesley College Chapter(1965).Sa/Ma > > > > > > 3)Marriage(1975/Oct).Me-Ve. > > > Lagna as well as mercury are having navamsha in Gemini.Mercury is > > > aspecting seventh house,seventh lord is aspecting mercury.These make > > > mercury a possible candidate for marriage. > > > > > > Venus is Lagna lord associating Lagna navamsha lord.Venus is aspecting > > > 7th house, apart from having navamsha in the 7th from lagna, making it > > > a candidate for marriage.(Kindly see the usage of navamsha as found in > > > classics) > > > > > > 4)First Lady of Arkansas (1978).Me/Su > > > Mercury has brought her many luck.Mercury is ninth lord forming > > > Rajayoga in Lagna.Sun is 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga.Moreover > > > Lagna is having Bhagya navamsha.9th lord is aslo having bhahya > > > navamsha.Sun the antar-dasha,is the 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga. > > > > > > 5)1980,Child birth.Me-Mo as per Chandrahari ayanamsha.Moon is in the > > > fifth.(Mars is the antar dasha as per Lahiri) > > > > > > 6)Senate election - Ve/Mo > > > > > > If she is running for the 2008 november predidential,the period will > > > be VE-SA. Saturn yogakaraka is giving neechabhanga to 7th lord mars > > > placed in 10th and undergoing parivartana with 10th lord moon .Good > > > period. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Namaste Sunil Ji, I sincerely appreciate your efforts and contributions to this group. As you said, it is just a discussion to see how the theories propounded by rishis are working or not. I know we use data which is available to us and may not be correct But these healthy discussions will help to have clarity and better understanding. Please keep the spirit of giving us insights... Many thanks. Namashivaya sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare rama krishna , dear sudheer ji . I think this is abt the predictions of siva baba who is nadi guru and reader .But i dont hav good net connection at home to view this tube ..But i read the comments in the site and assumes that he predicted in favr of hillary clinton . also dont know how correct is his predictions tho logicaly the twist may be towards the favr of hillary clinton . Discussion we had in our grp was based on avilable birth charts and our analsysis was totaly based on vedic astro principles ,tho we know des ,kaal ,patra ,paristithi principle also applies here . It is just a discussion to see how the theoreys propounded by rishis r working or not ,but unfortunately we dont know which data is correct and authentic .Hence we r not afriad of failure of predictions . we r just learning discussing and re inventing and reserching the old and scattered and un organised principles in indian astrology . Any way thanks for the link . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . vedic astrology , Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon wrote: > > Namaste Sunil Ji, > > Please check this link.. > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=7RJhp-v6bCs & feature=related > > Namashivaya. > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > Hare ramakrishna , > dear chakravarthy ji . > > yes we can use moon as lagna Under 2 conditions one is if u know day and birth time is unknown and other is even if u know birth data correctly ,moon if aspected by guru or benefics like merc or moon aspected by dispositor ,in that case after 30 years u can use moon lagna also .SOme says we can use moon lagna irrespectiv of strenth of moon ..But i cannot vouch it as moon is in a rasi for 2and 1/4 days ,so it becomes too general approach .were as lagna is the 2hrs window and it narrow down the effects to minute levels. > > But in chart of obama which i posted moon is exlated ,u can see the post . > i dont know moon can be used in navamsa as lagna ,may be possible ,its a new thing and some one can help us this line . > > But the danger is when moon is last degree of a sign in early morning and if birth is later part of day rasi can be changed ,then also sub periods cant be dependable .AS it becomes tricky . > > Otherwise moon as 2nd lagna ,we can use it ,esp under the conditions i explained . > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > , " Chakraborty, PL " CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil-ji, > > > > I am a novice, so pardon my ignorance. > > > > My question is... > > > > In absence of correct lagna for both candidate, can we > > rely on Moon as lagna here ? For both rasi & navamsha ? > > > > Moon supposedly means the public and elections are > > decided by public votes. > > > > Also, debilitated moon for Obama - deb. may mean > > deb. quality - which would favor recent politics. > > > > As seen in many athletes, deb. mars giving a 'no holds barred' > > attitude & no reduction in strength (result-giving wise), can we > > treat debilitated moon like that also ? > > > > 'Looking forward to replies. > > > > Regards > > > > Chakraborty > > > > > > > > sunil nair [astro_tellerkerala@] > > Monday, February 11, 2008 8:43 AM > > > > Re: USA Elections - Analysis done on the > > 9th of March 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna , > > > > dear vijaya das ji , > > > > > > > > Good analysis .what is the data u used .How reliable is the data..now > > there is lot of versions of birth chart of mrs .clinton is doing rounds in > > net . > > > > > > > > Now any way this is going to be a unpredictable election as far logic is > > concerned .Generaly US public was against Non -white and also against a > > woman .But now in actual practise things r on the other way around . > > > > > > > > Now i was reading clinton s changed their campain manager and obama is > > winning in 4 states and narrowing the margin and giving a tight fight . > > > > > > > > From unforeseen quarters they r getting support .She is experienced and > > famous were as Obama is new and fresh face who has not proved yet ..But how > > this charishma happened ?all in a sudden . > > > > > > > > No logics ,may be if we can get correct and reliable birth charts we could > > able to ascertain correct reasons . > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Respected members > > > > > > Please find the analysis done by me during early 2006.Mesg No.10270 > > > in Jyotish Group list. > > > The period will be Ve-Sa.Sun may be the Pratyantara dasha running > > > during November.Sun is in Lagna - debilitated and attaining NBRY.From > > > my analysis,it looks like if God's grace is there Ms.Clinton is > > > likely to become presdient. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > Hillary Clinton - Possibility of Libra > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected members > > > > > > Thanks for the chart and possible times.I have tried to verify the > > > chart with events and Libra seems to give satisfactory results.Kindly > > > have a look. > > > > > > First of all a general observation (Libra and balance) > > > > > > During the 1992 presidential campaign, Hillary Rodham Clinton > > > observed, " Our lives are a mixture of different roles. Most of us are > > > doing the best we can to find whatever the right balance is . . . For > > > me, that balance is family, work, and service. " > > > ------------------------- > > > ----------\ > > > ------------------------- > > > ----------\ > > > --------- > > > 1)First attraction to politics(1964,Supporting Republican senator,at > > > the age of 16).Sa/Mo - Yogakaraka Shani and 10th lord Moon in > > > Parivartana. > > > > > > 2)President of Wellesley College Chapter(1965).Sa/Ma > > > > > > 3)Marriage(1975/Oct).Me-Ve. > > > Lagna as well as mercury are having navamsha in Gemini.Mercury is > > > aspecting seventh house,seventh lord is aspecting mercury.These make > > > mercury a possible candidate for marriage. > > > > > > Venus is Lagna lord associating Lagna navamsha lord.Venus is aspecting > > > 7th house, apart from having navamsha in the 7th from lagna, making it > > > a candidate for marriage.(Kindly see the usage of navamsha as found in > > > classics) > > > > > > 4)First Lady of Arkansas (1978).Me/Su > > > Mercury has brought her many luck.Mercury is ninth lord forming > > > Rajayoga in Lagna.Sun is 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga.Moreover > > > Lagna is having Bhagya navamsha.9th lord is aslo having bhahya > > > navamsha.Sun the antar-dasha,is the 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga. > > > > > > 5)1980,Child birth.Me-Mo as per Chandrahari ayanamsha.Moon is in the > > > fifth.(Mars is the antar dasha as per Lahiri) > > > > > > 6)Senate election - Ve/Mo > > > > > > If she is running for the 2008 november predidential,the period will > > > be VE-SA. Saturn yogakaraka is giving neechabhanga to 7th lord mars > > > placed in 10th and undergoing parivartana with 10th lord moon ..Good > > > period. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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