Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Namaskar, 1.Nodes have been alloted houses, which is listed in BPHS.Native has been passing through Ke MD, which is 12HL, hence native suffered, and was hospitalized twice, which is 12H lords characteristics. In many other cases, lording of nodes have been found true. Astrology has many theories, many times contradictory, but i beleive BPHS may be final words. 2. As regards with native, I had satated that he has spritual inclination, and will pursue this path. I never said, its an outstanding chart from this point( I remarked in earelier reply " above average " ). 3. As regards with, carrying sptiualism from past birth, growth in it, requires several lives. Saints which u mentioned had been evolving for so many lives and then in this birth they achieved a lot since they had accumulated so much in previous births.So this native has brought some spritual accumulation from past birth. It is to state that he was spritually inclined and practised in last birth also.How much is a question? this is proved because with not much of practise, he progressed and had experiences which others take time. 4. this native was born in a good family (good from point of view of reputation). his grandfather and uncles were renowned doctors, though his father was not high ranking officer. As I mentioned earlier this native is class I officer in Govt of India. since he pious and god fearing aand spritually inclined, so he is an honest man. An honest officer who has been provided with house and vehicle by Govt. But bank balance, u can guess, not much. Regards, sanjeev vedic astrology , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > dear sanjeev ji , > > > > I belong to the old school of thought which says rahu ketu dont hav > own houses and they behav like rasi and lord and aspects and nakshatras > they influence or being influenced . > > > > If u see thru dasas of rahu -ketu being placed in own houses and others > houses and results in chart ,then u may be more convinced .And it more > easy also . > > > > so u dont need to keep on modifing this rules .As this works in > general sense. > > > > i am talking tru practical examples .Or u see some one has ketu or rahu > in own house or exaltation house and in 7th or 4 th in charts and > dasas.( planet shud be single and without any influence ) . > > > > This nativ has definitly spiritual inclinations and sanyas yogas but i > blv we r talking abt the magnitude of spiritual devlpment . > > > > Also in any charts or varga charts lf lagna Lord is weak or bad its > showing wrong direction only ( i repeat it ) tho i dont use varga charts > supreme over rasi charts . > > > > Now no amnt of arguement wont produce any results and we hav to wait and > watch only ( as we cant prove it on table top like in a lab under > induced condition) , > > > > i agree sun dasa will b fruitful in this direction .But think many > saints like adi sankara,jesus christ and swami vivekananda died b4 they > complete 35 years and their acheivement s,so think abt magnitude of past > lifes merits helping a nativ .WE should hav some hall mark than just > talking big . > > > > Hope u understand my stand on spirituality . > > so no point in argueing further and u can giv me more feed backs in > personal mails which may help me on my reserch . > > > > I did asked u one question --is he born in good family ,rich or > influential and how their status now and how is the nativ --as a erner > of wealth in material senses .I mean bank balances and property and > vehicles ( i dont need correct statements but an idea ) --all this for > my some reserch other than spirituality --so u can giv reply to me tru > personal mail > > > > regrds sunil nair > > Om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > vedic astrology , " pashu_sanju " <pashu_sanju@> > wrote: > > > > Namaskar, > > Though Ke is in 11th house, but it is lord of 12H. Ke is > > mokshakaraka. Hence, it will be giving both gains and pains, but also > > make person spritual due to its inherent nature. How much > > sprituality, lets look Ke placement in D-20, to get the answer. Here > > Ke is again 12HL and is in 11H. since, it is in 11th house which > > means spritual gain. but 12H means vyaya also, and hence both effect > > of gaining and Vyaya. In D-20, Ke is very important for anybody. > > > > As regards, with weak lagna of D-20, LL is debilitated and is in 2nd > > house. Debilitated LL gives guidance to native for his spritual > > pusuit. 9HL is exalted and posited in 5H, this gives good ability to > > native and has brought this ability from his past birth. Ju is also > > AK, which is debilitated, which means he has to maintain purity in > > his conduct to attain spritual progress. Same is the reason for his > > this birth. 11H is loaded with Ra-Ke-Mo, which makes it strong and > > thus indicates good gain. Overall D-20 is above average and indicates > > spritual inclination of person and bound to build on his previous > > birth work. > > > > As regards with Ve MD which will be starting, Ve is 6HL n 11HL in D- > > 1. It has argala on 4H and 9H. This means material gain, but in D- 20, > > (here too it is 11HL) Ve is in lagna, which ,means he will gain > > spritually. Combining both, I said Ve will be mixed period for native > > from point of view of sprituality. > > > > Next MD of Su will be excellent for him point of view of spritualism. > > > > He is a Class I officer in Government of India, and pursues astrology > > and spritualism. He had bit of health troble last year. > > > > Reagrds > > sanjeev > > > > vedic astrology , " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > > > > > dear sanjeev ji , > > > > > > > > > > > > All the coming dasa means ketu and venus are in kama trikona > > > (3/7/11).And also lagna lord and 5th L has connection with 11th > > lord ( > > > labhesh ) ,so how can he sustain this spirituality . > > > > > > yes he has sanyas yoga , > > > > > > also i dont know how far is corrected birth time is correct ,In that > > > case vimsamsa Lagna lord is also weak ,so see the basic foundation > > ( as > > > lagna is pivotal point in any varga chart --tho i dont use it ,but u > > > discussed it so i was using the same ) > > > > > > How is his health .and what is he doing ??He must b born in good > > family > > > according to time of birth . > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " pashu_sanju " <pashu_sanju@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > Chart time given was a rectified one on the basis of events of > > person > > > > in question. As regards with influences of planets on chart peruse > > > > below: > > > > 1. Ju ia AK and is having full drishti on lagna, which is > > sagitarius, > > > > a lagna which indicates one is spritually and religiously > > inclined. > > > > Full grihdrishti of Ju on lagna, which is also AK and 4HL. 4H, 8H > > and > > > > 12H are Moksha trikona. 4H shows initiatives towards moksha and > > hence > > > > sprituality. Ju being 4HL will make person spritually inclineda > > and > > > > make person to persue moksha line, wheher he gets that in this > > birth > > > > is different issue. > > > > 2. 12H is co-lorded by Ke, which has full grah Drishti of Ju, Thus > > > > there is connection between 4H and 12H, which is execellent yoga > > for > > > > spritualism. > > > > 3. Mo and Sa are together, which is parivrajaa yoga which > > encourage > > > > persons to renounce material world. > > > > 4. In D-20, 5th house has exalted Su, which shows good ability of > > > > person for spritual pursuit. Lagna lord Ju is debilitated, which > > is > > > > the plnet which will help him to grow spritually. In 11 house, > > which > > > > house of gain for spritualism, therse is 12HL, and 8H lord, which > > is > > > > good indications for spritual gain. since Su is in 5th house, the > > > > person will hevily depent on mantra jap. > > > > > > > > native in question is undergoing Ke MD (Vomshottari dasa, started > > > > from moon), which is lord of 12H both in D-1 and D-20, and placed > > in > > > > 11H in both charts and hence, person benefitted spritually. he > > > > progressed very fast in this path. After, Ke, Ve MD will start > > which > > > > is in lagna of D-20, and lord of 6th and 11H in D-20 and D-1, this > > > > period will see [person to have mixed period, he will gain and > > will > > > > face obstacles. > > > > > > > > You rightly pointed out Sc dasa is running as per drigdasa, but > > > > after february this year, ther will be decline in spritual > > > > activities, but during 2009-2010, again native will gain. > > > > As of now, he is persuing path of spritualism single mindedly. > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjeev > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " shanvar4 " shanvar4@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar Sanjeev! > > > > > > > > > > Om NAMAH SHIVAYAA! OM NAMO BHAGAWATHE VASUDEVAYAA!!! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for responding. > > > > > > > > > > 1. First, your points 2 and 3 -D-10 and D-20 charts would both > > > > change > > > > > if the time were 9 secs earlier, hence the comment. > > > > > > > > > > 2. Besides, the Arudha Pada of the 8h would move away from the > > 12h > > > > in > > > > > D-20, which is more relevant here, given that we have no clues > > as > > > > to > > > > > the " events of the native " . In D-10, however, 8L Kuja would be > > in > > > > the > > > > > 12h-A8 in the company of Rahu -but, we are trying to explain > > some > > > > > spiritually-related events, and are not attempting to analyse > > the > > > > > karma of the native, right? > > > > > > > > > > 3. Could you please therefore provide some clues as to recent > > > > events, > > > > > or events concerning the spiritual experience of the native? > > > > > > > > > > 4. The native would have had such experiences in his Ketu MD > > that > > > > > began in 2001 and will end NOV-2008. However, this may not be > > the > > > > > end, since the DrigDasa of Sco will be in effect until aug- 2010. > > > > > > > > > > Given the scant information, and the weak analysis , please > > > > provide > > > > > additional clues -NAMASKAR! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " pashu_sanju " > > > > > <pashu_sanju@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > 1.Dwisaptati dasa though is applicable but somehow does not > > > > > explains > > > > > > events of native. Try Vimshottari dasa. > > > > > > 2. How did u arrive at 9 secs correction in D-20. > > > > > > 3. Why u call it a close call between D-10 and D-20. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > sanjeev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " shanvar4 " <shanvar4@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow!!! Quite a chart from a spiritual standpoint! > > > > Unfortunately, > > > > > > > though, it is too close a call in the Dasamsha and the > > Vimsamsa > > > > > > > charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1-After taking the liberty of a 9sec correction in D20, it > > > > seems > > > > > > this > > > > > > > individual would have already undergone some powerful > > mystical > > > > > > > experiences; should have already 'found' his Guru this year, > > > > and > > > > > by > > > > > > > 2029 should be a full-fledged Saadhak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The period 2034 through 2044 should see a flowering of the > > > > > > spiritual > > > > > > > side. He/she would have begun the spiritual journey, > > strongly, > > > > > > after > > > > > > > nov-2001 and will culminate before this nov-08 in a strong > > > > saadhu- > > > > > > > like figure, not too keen on mantra-siddhi though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2-He/she is running the 8th Lord Mercury's Dasha per > > > > > > Dwisaptathisama, > > > > > > > with a strong past-life desire to serve society. It appears > > he > > > > > has > > > > > > > some strong leadership desire, but a weak following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other GURU's please comment! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , KARUNAAKARAM > > RAAGHAVAM > > > > > > > <munisevitham@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > .....spiritual prowess of the native ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The native's 9th and 10th lord in the 8th house which > > > > > > > suggests 'RAJA YOGA BHANGAA'.Further Sun,Guru and 9th house > > > > have > > > > > > not > > > > > > > attained poorna phalam to confer him any supernatural > > > > > extraordinary > > > > > > > ability as that of " Ashtamaasiddhi " ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pashu_sanju <pashu_sanju@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaskar to all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Comment on spritual prowess of the native I know. How > > his > > > > > > > spritual > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > will take shape and culminate. Birth data: > > > > > > > > > DoB:05-08-1966 > > > > > > > > > ToB:16:10 hrs (corrected) > > > > > > > > > Place : Gwalior (India) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i will post answer after 2 days. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > Search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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