To SUNIL NAIR part II quiz on sprituality of native !!

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Hare rama krishna ,

 

dear sanjeev ji .

 

 

 

Thanks for the feed back and informations .

 

 

 

yes BPHS and brihat jataka and some nadis also assigns diffenrt houses

and owner ships and exaltation and debilation houses for this chaya

grahs ( means this r not real grahas and point of influence only --than

a physical planet ) .even some texts mentiones houses and lord ships to

aprakasika grhas like gulika and mandi .But our scriptures says Nodes

can gobble up all planets including sun and moon .

 

 

 

So even though i knows various theoreys and dictums i prefer to use the

way i told u .As they hav tremendous attracting powers .And real can

influence a chart in good or bad way .

 

 

 

yes thank u for the discussion and we r realy enjoyed it

 

 

 

so keep posting good contents and all the best in ur pursuit in

astrology .

 

 

 

with lot of regrds

 

 

 

sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " pashu_sanju " <pashu_sanju

wrote:

>

> Sunil ji, namaskar

> I had good discussion on subject with u and enjoyed. Thanks for all

> of this. I will kkep discussing some more things about other

> examples. Thanks annd regards,

> Sanjeev

>

> vedic astrology , " sunil nair "

> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hare rama krishna ,

> >

> > dear sanjeev ji ,

> >

> >

> >

> > I belong to the old school of thought which says rahu ketu dont

> hav

> > own houses and they behav like rasi and lord and aspects and

> nakshatras

> > they influence or being influenced .

> >

> >

> >

> > If u see thru dasas of rahu -ketu being placed in own houses and

> others

> > houses and results in chart ,then u may be more convinced .And it

> more

> > easy also .

> >

> >

> >

> > so u dont need to keep on modifing this rules .As this works in

> > general sense.

> >

> >

> >

> > i am talking tru practical examples .Or u see some one has ketu or

> rahu

> > in own house or exaltation house and in 7th or 4 th in charts and

> > dasas.( planet shud be single and without any influence ) .

> >

> >

> >

> > This nativ has definitly spiritual inclinations and sanyas yogas

> but i

> > blv we r talking abt the magnitude of spiritual devlpment .

> >

> >

> >

> > Also in any charts or varga charts lf lagna Lord is weak or bad its

> > showing wrong direction only ( i repeat it ) tho i dont use varga

> charts

> > supreme over rasi charts .

> >

> >

> >

> > Now no amnt of arguement wont produce any results and we hav to

> wait and

> > watch only ( as we cant prove it on table top like in a lab under

> > induced condition) ,

> >

> >

> >

> > i agree sun dasa will b fruitful in this direction .But think many

> > saints like adi sankara,jesus christ and swami vivekananda died b4

> they

> > complete 35 years and their acheivement s,so think abt magnitude of

> past

> > lifes merits helping a nativ .WE should hav some hall mark than

> just

> > talking big .

> >

> >

> >

> > Hope u understand my stand on spirituality .

> >

> > so no point in argueing further and u can giv me more feed backs in

> > personal mails which may help me on my reserch .

> >

> >

> >

> > I did asked u one question --is he born in good family ,rich or

> > influential and how their status now and how is the nativ --as a

> erner

> > of wealth in material senses .I mean bank balances and property and

> > vehicles ( i dont need correct statements but an idea ) --all this

> for

> > my some reserch other than spirituality --so u can giv reply to me

> tru

> > personal mail

> >

> >

> >

> > regrds sunil nair

> >

> > Om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " pashu_sanju " <pashu_sanju@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaskar,

> > > Though Ke is in 11th house, but it is lord of 12H. Ke is

> > > mokshakaraka. Hence, it will be giving both gains and pains, but

> also

> > > make person spritual due to its inherent nature. How much

> > > sprituality, lets look Ke placement in D-20, to get the answer.

> Here

> > > Ke is again 12HL and is in 11H. since, it is in 11th house which

> > > means spritual gain. but 12H means vyaya also, and hence both

> effect

> > > of gaining and Vyaya. In D-20, Ke is very important for anybody.

> > >

> > > As regards, with weak lagna of D-20, LL is debilitated and is in

> 2nd

> > > house. Debilitated LL gives guidance to native for his spritual

> > > pusuit. 9HL is exalted and posited in 5H, this gives good ability

> to

> > > native and has brought this ability from his past birth. Ju is

> also

> > > AK, which is debilitated, which means he has to maintain purity in

> > > his conduct to attain spritual progress. Same is the reason for

> his

> > > this birth. 11H is loaded with Ra-Ke-Mo, which makes it strong and

> > > thus indicates good gain. Overall D-20 is above average and

> indicates

> > > spritual inclination of person and bound to build on his previous

> > > birth work.

> > >

> > > As regards with Ve MD which will be starting, Ve is 6HL n 11HL in

> D-

> > > 1. It has argala on 4H and 9H. This means material gain, but in D-

> 20,

> > > (here too it is 11HL) Ve is in lagna, which ,means he will gain

> > > spritually. Combining both, I said Ve will be mixed period for

> native

> > > from point of view of sprituality.

> > >

> > > Next MD of Su will be excellent for him point of view of

> spritualism.

> > >

> > > He is a Class I officer in Government of India, and pursues

> astrology

> > > and spritualism. He had bit of health troble last year.

> > >

> > > Reagrds

> > > sanjeev

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " sunil nair "

> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hare rama krishna ,

> > > >

> > > > dear sanjeev ji ,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > All the coming dasa means ketu and venus are in kama trikona

> > > > (3/7/11).And also lagna lord and 5th L has connection with 11th

> > > lord (

> > > > labhesh ) ,so how can he sustain this spirituality .

> > > >

> > > > yes he has sanyas yoga ,

> > > >

> > > > also i dont know how far is corrected birth time is correct ,In

> that

> > > > case vimsamsa Lagna lord is also weak ,so see the basic

> foundation

> > > ( as

> > > > lagna is pivotal point in any varga chart --tho i dont use

> it ,but u

> > > > discussed it so i was using the same )

> > > >

> > > > How is his health .and what is he doing ??He must b born in good

> > > family

> > > > according to time of birth .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " pashu_sanju "

> <pashu_sanju@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskar,

> > > > >

> > > > > Chart time given was a rectified one on the basis of events of

> > > person

> > > > > in question. As regards with influences of planets on chart

> peruse

> > > > > below:

> > > > > 1. Ju ia AK and is having full drishti on lagna, which is

> > > sagitarius,

> > > > > a lagna which indicates one is spritually and religiously

> > > inclined.

> > > > > Full grihdrishti of Ju on lagna, which is also AK and 4HL.

> 4H, 8H

> > > and

> > > > > 12H are Moksha trikona. 4H shows initiatives towards moksha

> and

> > > hence

> > > > > sprituality. Ju being 4HL will make person spritually

> inclineda

> > > and

> > > > > make person to persue moksha line, wheher he gets that in this

> > > birth

> > > > > is different issue.

> > > > > 2. 12H is co-lorded by Ke, which has full grah Drishti of Ju,

> Thus

> > > > > there is connection between 4H and 12H, which is execellent

> yoga

> > > for

> > > > > spritualism.

> > > > > 3. Mo and Sa are together, which is parivrajaa yoga which

> > > encourage

> > > > > persons to renounce material world.

> > > > > 4. In D-20, 5th house has exalted Su, which shows good

> ability of

> > > > > person for spritual pursuit. Lagna lord Ju is debilitated,

> which

> > > is

> > > > > the plnet which will help him to grow spritually. In 11 house,

> > > which

> > > > > house of gain for spritualism, therse is 12HL, and 8H lord,

> which

> > > is

> > > > > good indications for spritual gain. since Su is in 5th house,

> the

> > > > > person will hevily depent on mantra jap.

> > > > >

> > > > > native in question is undergoing Ke MD (Vomshottari dasa,

> started

> > > > > from moon), which is lord of 12H both in D-1 and D-20, and

> placed

> > > in

> > > > > 11H in both charts and hence, person benefitted spritually. he

> > > > > progressed very fast in this path. After, Ke, Ve MD will start

> > > which

> > > > > is in lagna of D-20, and lord of 6th and 11H in D-20 and D-1,

> this

> > > > > period will see [person to have mixed period, he will gain and

> > > will

> > > > > face obstacles.

> > > > >

> > > > > You rightly pointed out Sc dasa is running as per drigdasa,

> but

> > > > > after february this year, ther will be decline in spritual

> > > > > activities, but during 2009-2010, again native will gain.

> > > > > As of now, he is persuing path of spritualism single mindedly.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > sanjeev

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , " shanvar4 " shanvar4@

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaskar Sanjeev!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om NAMAH SHIVAYAA! OM NAMO BHAGAWATHE VASUDEVAYAA!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for responding.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. First, your points 2 and 3 -D-10 and D-20 charts would

> both

> > > > > change

> > > > > > if the time were 9 secs earlier, hence the comment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Besides, the Arudha Pada of the 8h would move away from

> the

> > > 12h

> > > > > in

> > > > > > D-20, which is more relevant here, given that we have no

> clues

> > > as

> > > > > to

> > > > > > the " events of the native " . In D-10, however, 8L Kuja would

> be

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > 12h-A8 in the company of Rahu -but, we are trying to explain

> > > some

> > > > > > spiritually-related events, and are not attempting to

> analyse

> > > the

> > > > > > karma of the native, right?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Could you please therefore provide some clues as to

> recent

> > > > > events,

> > > > > > or events concerning the spiritual experience of the native?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. The native would have had such experiences in his Ketu MD

> > > that

> > > > > > began in 2001 and will end NOV-2008. However, this may not

> be

> > > the

> > > > > > end, since the DrigDasa of Sco will be in effect until aug-

> 2010.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Given the scant information, and the weak analysis ,

> please

> > > > > provide

> > > > > > additional clues -NAMASKAR!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology , " pashu_sanju "

> > > > > > <pashu_sanju@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaskar,

> > > > > > > 1.Dwisaptati dasa though is applicable but somehow does

> not

> > > > > > explains

> > > > > > > events of native. Try Vimshottari dasa.

> > > > > > > 2. How did u arrive at 9 secs correction in D-20.

> > > > > > > 3. Why u call it a close call between D-10 and D-20.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > sanjeev

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology , " shanvar4 "

> <shanvar4@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Wow!!! Quite a chart from a spiritual standpoint!

> > > > > Unfortunately,

> > > > > > > > though, it is too close a call in the Dasamsha and the

> > > Vimsamsa

> > > > > > > > charts.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1-After taking the liberty of a 9sec correction in D20,

> it

> > > > > seems

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > individual would have already undergone some powerful

> > > mystical

> > > > > > > > experiences; should have already 'found' his Guru this

> year,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > 2029 should be a full-fledged Saadhak.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The period 2034 through 2044 should see a flowering of

> the

> > > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > side. He/she would have begun the spiritual journey,

> > > strongly,

> > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > nov-2001 and will culminate before this nov-08 in a

> strong

> > > > > saadhu-

> > > > > > > > like figure, not too keen on mantra-siddhi though.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2-He/she is running the 8th Lord Mercury's Dasha per

> > > > > > > Dwisaptathisama,

> > > > > > > > with a strong past-life desire to serve society. It

> appears

> > > he

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > some strong leadership desire, but a weak following.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Other GURU's please comment!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology , KARUNAAKARAM

> > > RAAGHAVAM

> > > > > > > > <munisevitham@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > > > > > .....spiritual prowess of the native .....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The native's 9th and 10th lord in the 8th house which

> > > > > > > > suggests 'RAJA YOGA BHANGAA'.Further Sun,Guru and 9th

> house

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > attained poorna phalam to confer him any supernatural

> > > > > > extraordinary

> > > > > > > > ability as that of " Ashtamaasiddhi " ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > pashu_sanju <pashu_sanju@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Namaskar to all,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Comment on spritual prowess of the native I know.

> How

> > > his

> > > > > > > > spritual

> > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > will take shape and culminate. Birth data:

> > > > > > > > > > DoB:05-08-1966

> > > > > > > > > > ToB:16:10 hrs (corrected)

> > > > > > > > > > Place : Gwalior (India)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > i will post answer after 2 days.

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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