Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 For those who bash Vedic Astrology - II Dear Beloved Bashers AND Dear Enlightened ones AND Dear friends who are seeking enlightenment This is second post in this topic. Please read my response to another previous bashing thread. Please note that I'm not that educated, so - kindly correct me if I'm wrong. The following are common arguments put forth by our beloved BASHERs. *** 1. Argument: Sun & Moon are not grahas.. Ans: Here the key lies in the origin of meaning of " graha " . In the vedic astrology realm, definition of graha is a object of celestial realm related to Ascendant. Thats it. Please dont add any words to this definition or do not confuse with other definitions from other branches of study. For example: The meaning of word " SET " changes with the context/subject in which it being used. *** 2. Nava-grahas & Stars are material objects and do not have life Ans: For ants and bacteria- the humans are also large objects that move. They cannot understand rocket science and they cannot understand our communications and sophistications. Ofcourse, Like celestial objects - You, me and every living thing also being material objects made up of millions of chemical material compounds. At our core, the central part of us is " Hypothalamus " which is also a chemical compound and holds the millions of feelings in chemical form of neuro-transmitters and receptors. Like a child who takes birth from mother's womb and essentially a separated form of physical object from another physical object - all celestial objects take birth from another celestial object. This includes SUN who took birth from a greater source of galactic material- which one call it as mother of SUN. In this case, the stars in near by celestial spectrum can be classified as siblings of SUN. *** 3. Predictive Astrology is against Life Dynamics Ans: Life is dynamic process, Agreed. Vedic astrology is not a time table of a fixed/Static Life process. Astrology is only one side of the coin.. the other side is Karma. Let me explain. You play a game, say cricket. Each instance of this game is called match. a) But there is a framework to this match (KUNDALI) - called game rules of 'that day', weather of 'that day', umpires of 'that day', pitch report of 'that DAY', players of 'that day' that influence the game's result. b) Then there is actual WORK (KARMA).. playing which depends upon the player's abilities & weak points (past karma), player's performance (present karma on that instance) which gives match results that day. Not only that, it determines the ranking for next match (result of current karma). Now- do the comparison: The entire class of Cricket represents living SYSTEM Each instance of the game, match represents one LIFE Each framework for each life represents KUNDALI for that particular instance Each actual Work done in the past, being done during the match and effect on next coming up matches represents KARMA. *** 4. Predictions are most of the time inaccurate Ans: First of all, the Birth details, esp- exact time of birth has to accurate, Which is prone to mistakes. Then, second point - Predictions are to get category classification of result... not the result it self. No predictive system gives actual result.. it gives you a range of results. *** 5. Vedic Astrologers are cheaters Ans: Every human being can be a cheater regardless of profession. *** Sincerely, Raj Upadhrasta. ______________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Dear Mr.Raj Upadhrasta I am regular reader of the articles of this site and though i am not astrologer but i firmly believe in theory of astrology. You did a great job of explaining pointwise the doubts of so called educated guys of our society who think astrology a tool of lazy person. Please tell these so called Educated Persons, before critizing astrology,study this science and then comment on it. Sir My jupiter Mahadasha has started from 14th of March 2008. But still i am going through the symptoms of my previous Rahu Mahadasha. Please comment on this feature.Now since my New dasha has started there should be no traces of old mahadasha. My details are Name :Rishi Place of birth :Bareilly (Uttar pradesh),India Date:22August1972 Time 19.20 Evening (7.20pm) Regards Rishi Raj Upadhrasta <suryanayaka wrote: For those who bash Vedic Astrology - II Dear Beloved Bashers AND Dear Enlightened ones AND Dear friends who are seeking enlightenment This is second post in this topic. Please read my response to another previous bashing thread. Please note that I'm not that educated, so - kindly correct me if I'm wrong. The following are common arguments put forth by our beloved BASHERs. *** 1. Argument: Sun & Moon are not grahas.. Ans: Here the key lies in the origin of meaning of " graha " . In the vedic astrology realm, definition of graha is a object of celestial realm related to Ascendant. Thats it. Please dont add any words to this definition or do not confuse with other definitions from other branches of study. For example: The meaning of word " SET " changes with the context/subject in which it being used. *** 2. Nava-grahas & Stars are material objects and do not have life Ans: For ants and bacteria- the humans are also large objects that move. They cannot understand rocket science and they cannot understand our communications and sophistications. Ofcourse, Like celestial objects - You, me and every living thing also being material objects made up of millions of chemical material compounds. At our core, the central part of us is " Hypothalamus " which is also a chemical compound and holds the millions of feelings in chemical form of neuro-transmitters and receptors. Like a child who takes birth from mother's womb and essentially a separated form of physical object from another physical object - all celestial objects take birth from another celestial object. This includes SUN who took birth from a greater source of galactic material- which one call it as mother of SUN. In this case, the stars in near by celestial spectrum can be classified as siblings of SUN. *** 3. Predictive Astrology is against Life Dynamics Ans: Life is dynamic process, Agreed. Vedic astrology is not a time table of a fixed/Static Life process. Astrology is only one side of the coin.. the other side is Karma. Let me explain. You play a game, say cricket. Each instance of this game is called match. a) But there is a framework to this match (KUNDALI) - called game rules of 'that day', weather of 'that day', umpires of 'that day', pitch report of 'that DAY', players of 'that day' that influence the game's result. b) Then there is actual WORK (KARMA).. playing which depends upon the player's abilities & weak points (past karma), player's performance (present karma on that instance) which gives match results that day. Not only that, it determines the ranking for next match (result of current karma). Now- do the comparison: The entire class of Cricket represents living SYSTEM Each instance of the game, match represents one LIFE Each framework for each life represents KUNDALI for that particular instance Each actual Work done in the past, being done during the match and effect on next coming up matches represents KARMA. *** 4. Predictions are most of the time inaccurate Ans: First of all, the Birth details, esp- exact time of birth has to accurate, Which is prone to mistakes. Then, second point - Predictions are to get category classification of result... not the result it self. No predictive system gives actual result.. it gives you a range of results. *** 5. Vedic Astrologers are cheaters Ans: Every human being can be a cheater regardless of profession. *** Sincerely, Raj Upadhrasta. ________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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