JREF

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna

 

dear group ,

 

This is a ploy by same guys who is ranting against astrologers who says

they hav a scientific bent of mind and says anything without proper

datas .if they are having scientific bent why dont they study and

publish it with results on futility of astrology than how sani is airy

or mercury is airy questions .

 

astrology not pure science where it may be 2+2 is 4 ,astrology come

under physical science and we r getting good results upto 80% .

 

 

 

it come under physical sciences and if there is more than 50% results on

1000 reading it proves to a science means has a strict laws and

conditions to follow ,we r not using our fancy to do astrology .

 

 

 

if u read their message they never touch astrology ,also they ask us

questions pointing this prize money where its clearly mentions abt

supernatural powers and occultism where we dont claim it .No body in

astrology has claimed to hav any of this powers ,so let us know is it

covers astrology or any indian predictive science ???

 

 

 

some one chllenged me b4 six months and he said randy uncle with 1Mn

dollars is going to conct me and i was happy but not even mandi uncle (

young brother of gulika ) concted me .

 

 

 

once atheist assossiation of india also run for cover in frnt of

astrologers .

 

 

 

if they are ready to accept this challenge other than ther usual one ,i

am ready to take up

 

 

 

bring chart and get predictions on pure questions than fictious frm the

charts of 1000 ppl who face real problems with max correctness in data

and they shud prepare the charts according to all time corrections ( war

time or DST or wat ever it is ) ,then they hav to stand gaurantee for

correctness for birth time also , let us see .

 

 

 

i cnt or will not answer their question on -- if they r male or female

or when they will die .as this is mere tricky based on diffrnt time

zones and incorrect birth time and another thing astrology is not abt a

defenit concrete structure and a one without a room for improvements

means its not a science of fatality ,why we recommend remedies to

improve things if we cannot over come it .so take this challeneg and

publish to the world for 1 MN dollars .

 

 

 

is any takers ?????????????????????????

 

 

 

i need badly some money for my nadi reserch .Then i will keep on running

around and challeneg them with a world tour organised .

 

 

 

and i am offering u 1 rs

 

i will not entertain any question on planets or physical properties

or taste or color which is part of modern scince .if u want predictions

then only u r welcome .

 

 

 

accept it or clear off .

 

 

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " damir.miric " <damir.miric

wrote:

>

> Hello all,

>

> " At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show,

> under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal,

> supernatural, or occult power or event. "

>

> Do we have anyone here who would be able to take that challenge and

> prove astrology to be right once and for all ?

>

> http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html

>

> Best,

> Damir

>

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Damir,

 

(1) First of all, let me tell you that during last couple of week - I had

encountered quite few ghost writers who post under anonymous multiple ids and

trying to do monkey things with me. For all those monkeys - I wish you all the

worst. My worst wishes will be always with you! Kind regards to that effect.

 

(2) Now, Let me give you a Knowledge-Tablet { " gnana gulika " -clue given by

guru}:

The science (knowledge repository) has two branches:

a) Abstract (Direct): repeatable real or apparant direct obersvations. Ex.

Physics

b) Applied (Indirect): Based on combinations of Abstract Science(s), you derive

indirect observations using Trail-'n'-Error methods, Reverse Engineering etc.

Ex. Computer Science.

 

Like Data Mining in Computer Software, Astrology is also an Applied Science

which does Information Reverse Engineering and does indirect calculations

clubbing Astronomy, Medicine, Religion, Sociology, Commerce, Chemistry etc..

finally all the Human Life dimensions.

 

 

(3) Limitations of Human Sensory Organization: This is most important and Kindly

read carefully..

Can you really prove all the scientific principles in lab settings directly and

not using applied techniques and indirect calculations? NO Calculations NO

Indirect Observations NO Reverse Engineering - Can you measure weight of earth

in that lab? Can you measure the distance from earth to SUN in that lab? Can you

read Human Memory in that lab? Ofcourse Not and all these things exist and they

have results. Only thing is you cannot get these results to Human Sensory Organs

directly and you need applied methods -- NOT ABSTRACT METHODS.

 

We are so small, cruel and arrogant animals in this vast universe. We have not

started the voyage yet. We even did not have eyes to atleast see this universe

completely. All arrogant systems, organizations and empires will fall. Its

matter of time.

 

JUST ASK A COMPUTER SCIENCE PROFESSOR TO PROVE DATA-MINING IN THAT RANDI LAB> HE

WILL GIVE YOU MOUTHFUL OF ENGLISH.

 

(4) Ofcourse, people are cheaters- regardless of profession. Intelligent people

who can apply their intelligence reap rewards using things outside Human Sensory

in applied science or atleast human psychology.

 

Motto of Life: Life starts with shit. Everyday, first thing in the morning. It

does not mean, life is full of it. Remember to clean it now and then.

 

 

Raj Upadhrasta.

 

 

 

" damir.miric " <damir.miric wrote: Hello

all,

 

" At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show,

under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal,

supernatural, or occult power or event. "

 

Do we have anyone here who would be able to take that challenge and

prove astrology to be right once and for all ?

 

http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html

 

Best,

Damir

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total

Access, No Cost.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Raj,

 

U r too good man, I liked your motto of life, LOL

 

Cheers,

Vijay.

 

Raj Upadhrasta <suryanayaka wrote: Dear

Damir,

 

(1) First of all, let me tell you that during last couple of week - I had

encountered quite few ghost writers who post under anonymous multiple ids and

trying to do monkey things with me. For all those monkeys - I wish you all the

worst. My worst wishes will be always with you! Kind regards to that effect.

 

(2) Now, Let me give you a Knowledge-Tablet { " gnana gulika " -clue given by

guru}:

The science (knowledge repository) has two branches:

a) Abstract (Direct): repeatable real or apparant direct obersvations. Ex.

Physics

b) Applied (Indirect): Based on combinations of Abstract Science(s), you derive

indirect observations using Trail-'n'-Error methods, Reverse Engineering etc.

Ex. Computer Science.

 

Like Data Mining in Computer Software, Astrology is also an Applied Science

which does Information Reverse Engineering and does indirect calculations

clubbing Astronomy, Medicine, Religion, Sociology, Commerce, Chemistry etc..

finally all the Human Life dimensions.

 

(3) Limitations of Human Sensory Organization: This is most important and

Kindly read carefully..

Can you really prove all the scientific principles in lab settings directly and

not using applied techniques and indirect calculations? NO Calculations NO

Indirect Observations NO Reverse Engineering - Can you measure weight of earth

in that lab? Can you measure the distance from earth to SUN in that lab? Can you

read Human Memory in that lab? Ofcourse Not and all these things exist and they

have results. Only thing is you cannot get these results to Human Sensory Organs

directly and you need applied methods -- NOT ABSTRACT METHODS.

 

We are so small, cruel and arrogant animals in this vast universe. We have not

started the voyage yet. We even did not have eyes to atleast see this universe

completely. All arrogant systems, organizations and empires will fall. Its

matter of time.

 

JUST ASK A COMPUTER SCIENCE PROFESSOR TO PROVE DATA-MINING IN THAT RANDI LAB>

HE WILL GIVE YOU MOUTHFUL OF ENGLISH.

 

(4) Ofcourse, people are cheaters- regardless of profession. Intelligent people

who can apply their intelligence reap rewards using things outside Human Sensory

in applied science or atleast human psychology.

 

Motto of Life: Life starts with shit. Everyday, first thing in the morning. It

does not mean, life is full of it. Remember to clean it now and then.

 

Raj Upadhrasta.

 

" damir.miric " <damir.miric wrote: Hello

all,

 

" At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show,

under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal,

supernatural, or occult power or event. "

 

Do we have anyone here who would be able to take that challenge and

prove astrology to be right once and for all ?

 

http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html

 

Best,

Damir

 

 

 

 

 

You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total

Access, No Cost.