JREF 1 million dollar challenge to astrology

April 4, 2008

dear blr

I am least bothered abt their test which is not practical ,astro is

for knowing events and no body came to knw that wheter they male or

female or dead or alive .

so that is it .it is not that we cant do it ,but we dont practise it

like old water deliantaion technics or war astrology which is thing of

past ,even chor prashna as police is wel equipped .

so come in my terms

i need money for nadi reserch means it need that much money and how

randi made too much money by this un acceptable claimes and cheating

general publics .

so i am open ,and i dont want to talk to u if u r not frm ranid

foundation .

i remebr a story when some dead person was taken for funeral procession

one worm asked others what happened ,so some one replied that the person

die of king kobra bite ,so the worm said look what happen when u ppl

make problem with us .Hope u got it .U r a nasty indian i suppose with

some evangelic mission .who dont know even diff between indian astrology

and western

if i wanna make money i can study a bible which is a small book ( a

peanut and i know better than u too ) and i can become till a pope where

as the literature of astrology u ppl will piss off .

i can giv randi some books can he master it ,and come and say where is

the astrology is cheating ,forget western astro .

so clear off and i dont want to talk to u ,if u dont come to our terms .

regrds sunil nair

vedic astrology , " blr " <blr.aspirant wrote:

>

> Namaskar Sunil ji,

>

> This is an example of a western astrologer coming forward to take

> challenge.

>

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?s=83cae6e5c13c97137af51b82904d44a\

a & t=85841

>

> To the best of my knowledge, JREF (James Randi Foundation) challenge

> is not a ploy.

> I have been hearing about it since I was in college.

>

> Since you require money (who does not require!) to do Nadi research,

> probably you can take it up. I remember renowned astrologer shri

> K.N.Rao defended astrology in court of india. Maybe the astrologers in

> this forum could together or individually take up this challenge.

>

> OTHERWISE I DOUBT WHETHER INTELLIGENT PUBLIC (THOUGH SOMETIMES

> DESPERATE TO GET HOPE THROUGH ASTROLOGY) OF INDIA OR ELSEWHERE MAKE

> LAWS DECLARING IT ILLEGAL & EQUIVALENT TO PSYCHOLOGICAL DECEPTION.

>

> Here is the challenge link. I also verified that they have more than

> 1 million dollars with goldman-sachs account.

>

> http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html

>

> The Foundation is committed to providing reliable information about

> paranormal claims. It both supports and conducts original research

> into such claims.

>

> At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show,

> under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal,

> supernatural, or occult power or event. The JREF does not involve

> itself in the testing procedure, other than helping to design the

> protocol and approving the conditions under which a test will take

> place. All tests are designed with the participation and approval of

> the applicant. In most cases, the applicant will be asked to perform a

> relatively simple preliminary test of the claim, which if successful,

> will be followed by the formal test. Preliminary tests are usually

> conducted by associates of the JREF at the site where the applicant

> lives. Upon success in the preliminary testing process, the

> " applicant " becomes a " claimant. "

>

> To date, no one has passed the preliminary tests.

>

> Click here to see the application.

>

> Click here to see the current $1 million statement which shows the

> current amount in our prize account.

>

> Randi's Personal FAQ.

>

> The Log of Applicants

>

> vedic astrology , " sunil nair "

> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> > Hare rama krishna

> >

> > dear group ,

> >

> > This is a ploy by same guys who is ranting against astrologers who

says

> > they hav a scientific bent of mind and says anything without proper

> > datas .if they are having scientific bent why dont they study and

> > publish it with results on futility of astrology than how sani is

airy

> > or mercury is airy questions .

> >

> > astrology not pure science where it may be 2+2 is 4 ,astrology come

> > under physical science and we r getting good results upto 80% .

> >

> > it come under physical sciences and if there is more than 50%

results on

> > 1000 reading it proves to a science means has a strict laws and

> > conditions to follow ,we r not using our fancy to do astrology .

> >

> > if u read their message they never touch astrology ,also they ask us

> > questions pointing this prize money where its clearly mentions abt

> > supernatural powers and occultism where we dont claim it .No body in

> > astrology has claimed to hav any of this powers ,so let us know is

it

> > covers astrology or any indian predictive science ???

> >

> > some one chllenged me b4 six months and he said randy uncle with 1Mn

> > dollars is going to conct me and i was happy but not even mandi

uncle (

> > young brother of gulika ) concted me .

> >

> > once atheist assossiation of india also run for cover in frnt of

> > astrologers .

> >

> > if they are ready to accept this challenge other than ther usual one

,i

> > am ready to take up

> >

> > bring chart and get predictions on pure questions than fictious frm

the

> > charts of 1000 ppl who face real problems with max correctness in

data

> > and they shud prepare the charts according to all time corrections (

war

> > time or DST or wat ever it is ) ,then they hav to stand gaurantee

for

> > correctness for birth time also , let us see .

> >

> > i cnt or will not answer their question on -- if they r male or

female

> > or when they will die .as this is mere tricky based on diffrnt time

> > zones and incorrect birth time and another thing astrology is not

abt a

> > defenit concrete structure and a one without a room for improvements

> > means its not a science of fatality ,why we recommend remedies to

> > improve things if we cannot over come it .so take this challeneg and

> > publish to the world for 1 MN dollars .

> >

> > is any takers ?????????????????????????

> >

> > i need badly some money for my nadi reserch .Then i will keep on

running

> > around and challeneg them with a world tour organised .

> >

> > and i am offering u 1 rs

> >

> > i will not entertain any question on planets or physical properties

> > or taste or color which is part of modern scince .if u want

predictions

> > then only u r welcome .

> >

> > accept it or clear off .

> >

> > regrds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> >

> > vedic astrology , " damir.miric " <damir.miric@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello all,

> > >

> > > " At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can

show,

> > > under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal,

> > > supernatural, or occult power or event. "

> > >

> > > Do we have anyone here who would be able to take that challenge

and

> > > prove astrology to be right once and for all ?

> > >

> > > http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html

> > >

> > > Best,

> > > Damir

> > >

> >

April 5, 2008

Hare rama krishna

dear deepika

thanks for sugestions ,i will try to do the courses once i cheat

every one and make more money .

also u proposed me for the challenge .

once i do rememebr when i was using dail up connection and some of my

mails were lengthy to save time many times i dont re check mails ,so i

type and just sent it and those days also i got this valuable free

sugestions to correct my langage and spelling .

I am not sitting here only to answer u were as i do my work also ,unlike

many others every thing is provided my their mission or office .

i am frm kerala and i know min 5 langages means i not a doctorate or

master in any laungage and here i dont teach any language but those who

speak or write one language need not show off .i am having working

knowledge and i think its enough .Can i talk or write arbic to u and can

u answer me .

U propose me for challenege and same time why r u fuming it is showing

u r having scientific thought or evangelical thought .

last 5000 years many tried to spoil indian culture and its contributions

..And still u ppl need not come to teach me for any thing as we r mother

of all civilisation and sanskrit is mother of all laungages .

so stop ur evangelic mission last so many 100s of years and billions of

dollars cant do it means that itself shows its strenght .

So u prepare ur evangelic bros for the challenge in my way in a big

crowd .Were as i will dictate terms --just the way how ppl consult me

..Not on ur unscientifc impossible ways .

sunil nair

vedic astrology , " blr " <blr.aspirant wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil ji,

>

> I suggest you to take up some english course, or better write in hindi

> or regional language.

>

> Your language not only lacks in sentence contruction but also in

> thought structuring.

>

> I am sure people who expect profound astrological predictions expect

> atleast a proper thought & language process, if not for a valid

> scientific process.

>

> Regards

> Dipika

>

> vedic astrology , " sunil nair "

> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> > dear blr

> >

> > I am least bothered abt their test which is not practical ,astro is

> > for knowing events and no body came to knw that wheter they male or

> > female or dead or alive .

> >

> > so that is it .it is not that we cant do it ,but we dont practise it

> > like old water deliantaion technics or war astrology which is thing

of

> > past ,even chor prashna as police is wel equipped .

> >

> > so come in my terms

> >

> > i need money for nadi reserch means it need that much money and how

> > randi made too much money by this un acceptable claimes and cheating

> > general publics .

> >

> > so i am open ,and i dont want to talk to u if u r not frm ranid

> > foundation .

> >

> > i remebr a story when some dead person was taken for funeral

procession

> > one worm asked others what happened ,so some one replied that the

person

> > die of king kobra bite ,so the worm said look what happen when u ppl

> > make problem with us .Hope u got it .U r a nasty indian i suppose

with

> > some evangelic mission .who dont know even diff between indian

astrology

> > and western

> >

> > if i wanna make money i can study a bible which is a small book ( a

> > peanut and i know better than u too ) and i can become till a pope

where

> > as the literature of astrology u ppl will piss off .

> >

> > i can giv randi some books can he master it ,and come and say where

is

> > the astrology is cheating ,forget western astro .

> >

> > so clear off and i dont want to talk to u ,if u dont come to our

terms .

> >

> > regrds sunil nair

> >

> > vedic astrology , " blr " <blr.aspirant@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaskar Sunil ji,

> > >

> > > This is an example of a western astrologer coming forward to take

> > > challenge.

> > >

> >

>

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?s=83cae6e5c13c97137af51b82904d44a\

\

> > a & t=85841

> > >

> > > To the best of my knowledge, JREF (James Randi Foundation)

challenge

> > > is not a ploy.

> > > I have been hearing about it since I was in college.

> > >

> > > Since you require money (who does not require!) to do Nadi

research,

> > > probably you can take it up. I remember renowned astrologer shri

> > > K.N.Rao defended astrology in court of india. Maybe the

astrologers in

> > > this forum could together or individually take up this challenge.

> > >

> > > OTHERWISE I DOUBT WHETHER INTELLIGENT PUBLIC (THOUGH SOMETIMES

> > > DESPERATE TO GET HOPE THROUGH ASTROLOGY) OF INDIA OR ELSEWHERE

MAKE

> > > LAWS DECLARING IT ILLEGAL & EQUIVALENT TO PSYCHOLOGICAL DECEPTION.

> > >

> > > Here is the challenge link. I also verified that they have more

than

> > > 1 million dollars with goldman-sachs account.

> > >

> > > http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html

> > >

> > > The Foundation is committed to providing reliable information

about

> > > paranormal claims. It both supports and conducts original research

> > > into such claims.

> > >

> > > At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can

show,

> > > under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal,

> > > supernatural, or occult power or event. The JREF does not involve

> > > itself in the testing procedure, other than helping to design the

> > > protocol and approving the conditions under which a test will take

> > > place. All tests are designed with the participation and approval

of

> > > the applicant. In most cases, the applicant will be asked to

perform a

> > > relatively simple preliminary test of the claim, which if

successful,

> > > will be followed by the formal test. Preliminary tests are usually

> > > conducted by associates of the JREF at the site where the

applicant

> > > lives. Upon success in the preliminary testing process, the

> > > " applicant " becomes a " claimant. "

> > >

> > > To date, no one has passed the preliminary tests.

> > >

> > > Click here to see the application.

> > >

> > > Click here to see the current $1 million statement which shows the

> > > current amount in our prize account.

> > >

> > > Randi's Personal FAQ.

> > >

> > > The Log of Applicants

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " sunil nair "

> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > >

> > > > dear group ,

> > > >

> > > > This is a ploy by same guys who is ranting against astrologers

who

> > says

> > > > they hav a scientific bent of mind and says anything without

proper

> > > > datas .if they are having scientific bent why dont they study

and

> > > > publish it with results on futility of astrology than how sani

is

> > airy

> > > > or mercury is airy questions .

> > > >

> > > > astrology not pure science where it may be 2+2 is 4 ,astrology

come

> > > > under physical science and we r getting good results upto 80% .

> > > >

> > > > it come under physical sciences and if there is more than 50%

> > results on

> > > > 1000 reading it proves to a science means has a strict laws and

> > > > conditions to follow ,we r not using our fancy to do astrology .

> > > >

> > > > if u read their message they never touch astrology ,also they

ask us

> > > > questions pointing this prize money where its clearly mentions

abt

> > > > supernatural powers and occultism where we dont claim it .No

body in

> > > > astrology has claimed to hav any of this powers ,so let us know

is

> > it

> > > > covers astrology or any indian predictive science ???

> > > >

> > > > some one chllenged me b4 six months and he said randy uncle with

1Mn

> > > > dollars is going to conct me and i was happy but not even mandi

> > uncle (

> > > > young brother of gulika ) concted me .

> > > >

> > > > once atheist assossiation of india also run for cover in frnt of

> > > > astrologers .

> > > >

> > > > if they are ready to accept this challenge other than ther usual

one

> > ,i

> > > > am ready to take up

> > > >

> > > > bring chart and get predictions on pure questions than fictious

frm

> > the

> > > > charts of 1000 ppl who face real problems with max correctness

in

> > data

> > > > and they shud prepare the charts according to all time

corrections (

> > war

> > > > time or DST or wat ever it is ) ,then they hav to stand

gaurantee

> > for

> > > > correctness for birth time also , let us see .

> > > >

> > > > i cnt or will not answer their question on -- if they r male or

> > female

> > > > or when they will die .as this is mere tricky based on diffrnt

time

> > > > zones and incorrect birth time and another thing astrology is

not

> > abt a

> > > > defenit concrete structure and a one without a room for

improvements

> > > > means its not a science of fatality ,why we recommend remedies

to

> > > > improve things if we cannot over come it .so take this challeneg

and

> > > > publish to the world for 1 MN dollars .

> > > >

> > > > is any takers ?????????????????????????

> > > >

> > > > i need badly some money for my nadi reserch .Then i will keep on

> > running

> > > > around and challeneg them with a world tour organised .

> > > >

> > > > and i am offering u 1 rs

> > > >

> > > > i will not entertain any question on planets or physical

properties

> > > > or taste or color which is part of modern scince .if u want

> > predictions

> > > > then only u r welcome .

> > > >

> > > > accept it or clear off .

> > > >

> > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " damir.miric "

<damir.miric@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello all,

> > > > >

> > > > > " At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who

can

> > show,

> > > > > under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal,

> > > > > supernatural, or occult power or event. "

> > > > >

> > > > > Do we have anyone here who would be able to take that

challenge

> > and

> > > > > prove astrology to be right once and for all ?

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html

> > > > >

> > > > > Best,

> > > > > Damir

> > > > >

> > > >

April 5, 2008

h

deepika,

It's not that suddenly you're a writer if you write a

lot of

uncomprehensible nonsense.

A writer is inspired and the words he writes carry

this inspiration.

Uninspired playfulness with words boils down to

noise.

Like hip-hop muzak...

yes, the words don't make you a poetor a writer , its the

transparency, shining through. the more transparent,

the more poetic - even statistics!

got it ?

sunil nair

vedic astrology , " blr " <blr.aspirant wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil ji,

>

> I suggest you to take up some english course, or better write in hindi

> or regional language.

>

> Your language not only lacks in sentence contruction but also in

> thought structuring.

>

> I am sure people who expect profound astrological predictions expect

> atleast a proper thought & language process, if not for a valid

> scientific process.

>

> Regards

> Dipika

>

> vedic astrology , " sunil nair "

> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> > dear blr

> >

> > I am least bothered abt their test which is not practical ,astro is

> > for knowing events and no body came to knw that wheter they male or

> > female or dead or alive .

> >

> > so that is it .it is not that we cant do it ,but we dont practise it

> > like old water deliantaion technics or war astrology which is thing

of

> > past ,even chor prashna as police is wel equipped .

> >

> > so come in my terms

> >

> > i need money for nadi reserch means it need that much money and how

> > randi made too much money by this un acceptable claimes and cheating

> > general publics .

> >

> > so i am open ,and i dont want to talk to u if u r not frm ranid

> > foundation .

> >

> > i remebr a story when some dead person was taken for funeral

procession

> > one worm asked others what happened ,so some one replied that the

person

> > die of king kobra bite ,so the worm said look what happen when u ppl

> > make problem with us .Hope u got it .U r a nasty indian i suppose

with

> > some evangelic mission .who dont know even diff between indian

astrology

> > and western

> >

> > if i wanna make money i can study a bible which is a small book ( a

> > peanut and i know better than u too ) and i can become till a pope

where

> > as the literature of astrology u ppl will piss off .

> >

> > i can giv randi some books can he master it ,and come and say where

is

> > the astrology is cheating ,forget western astro .

> >

> > so clear off and i dont want to talk to u ,if u dont come to our

terms .

> >

> > regrds sunil nair

> >

> > vedic astrology , " blr " <blr.aspirant@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaskar Sunil ji,

> > >

> > > This is an example of a western astrologer coming forward to take

> > > challenge.

> > >

> >

>

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?s=83cae6e5c13c97137af51b82904d44a\

\

> > a & t=85841

> > >

> > > To the best of my knowledge, JREF (James Randi Foundation)

challenge

> > > is not a ploy.

> > > I have been hearing about it since I was in college.

> > >

> > > Since you require money (who does not require!) to do Nadi

research,

> > > probably you can take it up. I remember renowned astrologer shri

> > > K.N.Rao defended astrology in court of india. Maybe the

astrologers in

> > > this forum could together or individually take up this challenge.

> > >

> > > OTHERWISE I DOUBT WHETHER INTELLIGENT PUBLIC (THOUGH SOMETIMES

> > > DESPERATE TO GET HOPE THROUGH ASTROLOGY) OF INDIA OR ELSEWHERE

MAKE

> > > LAWS DECLARING IT ILLEGAL & EQUIVALENT TO PSYCHOLOGICAL DECEPTION.

> > >

> > > Here is the challenge link. I also verified that they have more

than

> > > 1 million dollars with goldman-sachs account.

> > >

> > > http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html

> > >

> > > The Foundation is committed to providing reliable information

about

> > > paranormal claims. It both supports and conducts original research

> > > into such claims.

> > >

> > > At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can

show,

> > > under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal,

> > > supernatural, or occult power or event. The JREF does not involve

> > > itself in the testing procedure, other than helping to design the

> > > protocol and approving the conditions under which a test will take

> > > place. All tests are designed with the participation and approval

of

> > > the applicant. In most cases, the applicant will be asked to

perform a

> > > relatively simple preliminary test of the claim, which if

successful,

> > > will be followed by the formal test. Preliminary tests are usually

> > > conducted by associates of the JREF at the site where the

applicant

> > > lives. Upon success in the preliminary testing process, the

> > > " applicant " becomes a " claimant. "

> > >

> > > To date, no one has passed the preliminary tests.

> > >

> > > Click here to see the application.

> > >

> > > Click here to see the current $1 million statement which shows the

> > > current amount in our prize account.

> > >

> > > Randi's Personal FAQ.

> > >

> > > The Log of Applicants

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " sunil nair "

> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > >

> > > > dear group ,

> > > >

> > > > This is a ploy by same guys who is ranting against astrologers

who

> > says

> > > > they hav a scientific bent of mind and says anything without

proper

> > > > datas .if they are having scientific bent why dont they study

and

> > > > publish it with results on futility of astrology than how sani

is

> > airy

> > > > or mercury is airy questions .

> > > >

> > > > astrology not pure science where it may be 2+2 is 4 ,astrology

come

> > > > under physical science and we r getting good results upto 80% .

> > > >

> > > > it come under physical sciences and if there is more than 50%

> > results on

> > > > 1000 reading it proves to a science means has a strict laws and

> > > > conditions to follow ,we r not using our fancy to do astrology .

> > > >

> > > > if u read their message they never touch astrology ,also they

ask us

> > > > questions pointing this prize money where its clearly mentions

abt

> > > > supernatural powers and occultism where we dont claim it .No

body in

> > > > astrology has claimed to hav any of this powers ,so let us know

is

> > it

> > > > covers astrology or any indian predictive science ???

> > > >

> > > > some one chllenged me b4 six months and he said randy uncle with

1Mn

> > > > dollars is going to conct me and i was happy but not even mandi

> > uncle (

> > > > young brother of gulika ) concted me .

> > > >

> > > > once atheist assossiation of india also run for cover in frnt of

> > > > astrologers .

> > > >

> > > > if they are ready to accept this challenge other than ther usual

one

> > ,i

> > > > am ready to take up

> > > >

> > > > bring chart and get predictions on pure questions than fictious

frm

> > the

> > > > charts of 1000 ppl who face real problems with max correctness

in

> > data

> > > > and they shud prepare the charts according to all time

corrections (

> > war

> > > > time or DST or wat ever it is ) ,then they hav to stand

gaurantee

> > for

> > > > correctness for birth time also , let us see .

> > > >

> > > > i cnt or will not answer their question on -- if they r male or

> > female

> > > > or when they will die .as this is mere tricky based on diffrnt

time

> > > > zones and incorrect birth time and another thing astrology is

not

> > abt a

> > > > defenit concrete structure and a one without a room for

improvements

> > > > means its not a science of fatality ,why we recommend remedies

to

> > > > improve things if we cannot over come it .so take this challeneg

and

> > > > publish to the world for 1 MN dollars .

> > > >

> > > > is any takers ?????????????????????????

> > > >

> > > > i need badly some money for my nadi reserch .Then i will keep on

> > running

> > > > around and challeneg them with a world tour organised .

> > > >

> > > > and i am offering u 1 rs

> > > >

> > > > i will not entertain any question on planets or physical

properties

> > > > or taste or color which is part of modern scince .if u want

> > predictions

> > > > then only u r welcome .

> > > >

> > > > accept it or clear off .

> > > >

> > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " damir.miric "

<damir.miric@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello all,

> > > > >

> > > > > " At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who

can

> > show,

> > > > > under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal,

> > > > > supernatural, or occult power or event. "

> > > > >

> > > > > Do we have anyone here who would be able to take that

challenge

> > and

> > > > > prove astrology to be right once and for all ?

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html

> > > > >

> > > > > Best,

> > > > > Damir

> > > > >

> > > >

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