effects of UL with rahu and shani for marriage

[Guest guest]

Dear Prashant,

 

to end your curiosity, I am still unmarried aged 29.

 

regards,

Mukesh Verma

 

wish this world could be better..

 

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Prashant <praspandey wrote:

 

>

> I think your natal chart is best to clarify the reality of arudha....

>

> Your A7 and UL in 9'th with Sa and Ra....right

>

> now in 7'th house has benefics if we leave Su....

>

> Now 7'th lord is with Ju....

>

> So according to arudha and according to 7'th house lord and 7'th house

> concept both will give totally opposite answers, now i am waiting for your

> feed back about your spouse....

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Prashant Pandey

>

> Prashant <praspandey <praspandey%40.co.in>> wrote:

> Mukesh tell me one thing are you married....

>

> If yes then i will confirm just now the reality of arudha from your

> chart....

>

> Please tell me...

> Mukesh verma <astromukesh <astromukesh%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> Dear Prashant,

>

> seeing your conversation today with rafal and pascal, it is evident that

> Pascal relied on his objective approach to question certain astrological

> concepts, whereas,

> THE WORDS used by you for rafal were not very respectable.

>

> To maintaion the decorum of this Group you must not continue to use such

> words again.

> As evident and sited by Pascal in your chart the combination of Mars and

> Budh, and rahu+ shani in 3 house makes you use communication powers in

> unrespectful ways.

>

> I am nobody, but I respect the Integrity of this discussion forum, and I

> believe that the Learned Gurus are here together with me.

>

> This forum is owned by none, but each of us need to show respect, and

> behave

> like a team engaged in research work, and not like school kids using

> derogatory remarks on one another.

>

> I expect scholarly words to be used in the conversation on this forum,

> else

> there would be no sense staying in this forum anymore after having spend 2

> years here.

>

> thanks and regards,

> Mukesh Verma

>

> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:47 PM, pascalthomas_va

<pthomas69<pthomas69%40zipmail.com.br>

> >

> wrote:

>

> > Dear and Respected Rafal,

> >

> > thank you very much for your comments. I will not comment on your

> > quarrel with Prashant, seems also to be something personal between you

> > two, something personal.

> >

> > But: what you call " Rahu-approach " is the modern scientific approach

> > used in all sciences: experience, empiric value, applicability. No

> > techniques, no cars, no computers without this " Rahu-approach " . What

> > science e.g. physics would be, if students and professors would

> > blindly believe in their gurus teachings? No, there is criticism for

> > the better! (Rafal, I would like to know your nationality.)

> >

> > I also can believe in some hidden meanings in ancient scriptures, this

> > may be an advantage for you. Lot of things are obvious. And if you

> > read my lines correctly, I am NOT totally against Arudhas. I just

> > raised some questions, which are - by the way - unanswered (A5 and UL

> > signification, manifestation during dasas).

> >

> > Of course, you have the right to follow your guru, which is surely

> > very respectable. But we all know, there are different gurus with very

> > different views. And no human being can grasp the whole truth alone.

> > So for me - this is really my " Rahu-approach " it is very difficult of

> > follow one guru only. But, please believe this, I RESPECT your opinion

> > truly.

> >

> > Rahu is not such a bad or evil planet, even being a malefic. Malefics

> > can do very well in a horoscope, Benefics can cause bad or evil

> > events. You know this, you surely have big knowledge (I was visiting

> > your website).

> >

> > With deep respect

> > Pascal

> >

> > P.S.: Respect towards a person and objective critics on a certain

> > issue are two very different things. One can critize a guru and have

> > deep respect towards his person and his work. And I think in India

> > there are - like here in Europe - very different tradition strings.

> > I do not want to offend you - in no way.

> >

> > P.S.: As a German - you know our history - I cannot and I will not

> > rely blindly in any leader or guru. You know the possible

> > consequences. I hear, I try to understand, and where I understand I

> > follow. Nothing else.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mukesh,Prashant have not used any bad language here....

 

Prashant puts everything in well manner....

 

he knows how he has to behave in group....

 

Do teaching somewhere else....

 

vedic astrology , " Mukesh verma "

<astromukesh wrote:

>

> Dear Prashant,

>

> seeing your conversation today with rafal and pascal, it is

evident that

> Pascal relied on his objective approach to question certain

astrological

> concepts, whereas,

> THE WORDS used by you for rafal were not very respectable.

>

> To maintaion the decorum of this Group you must not continue to

use such

> words again.

> As evident and sited by Pascal in your chart the combination of

Mars and

> Budh, and rahu+ shani in 3 house makes you use communication

powers in

> unrespectful ways.

>

> I am nobody, but I respect the Integrity of this discussion forum,

and I

> believe that the Learned Gurus are here together with me.

>

> This forum is owned by none, but each of us need to show respect,

and behave

> like a team engaged in research work, and not like school kids

using

> derogatory remarks on one another.

>

> I expect scholarly words to be used in the conversation on this

forum, else

> there would be no sense staying in this forum anymore after having

spend 2

> years here.

>

> thanks and regards,

> Mukesh Verma

>

>

> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:47 PM, pascalthomas_va <pthomas69

> wrote:

>

> > Dear and Respected Rafal,

> >

> > thank you very much for your comments. I will not comment on your

> > quarrel with Prashant, seems also to be something personal

between you

> > two, something personal.

> >

> > But: what you call " Rahu-approach " is the modern scientific

approach

> > used in all sciences: experience, empiric value, applicability.

No

> > techniques, no cars, no computers without this " Rahu-approach " .

What

> > science e.g. physics would be, if students and professors would

> > blindly believe in their gurus teachings? No, there is criticism

for

> > the better! (Rafal, I would like to know your nationality.)

> >

> > I also can believe in some hidden meanings in ancient

scriptures, this

> > may be an advantage for you. Lot of things are obvious. And if

you

> > read my lines correctly, I am NOT totally against Arudhas. I just

> > raised some questions, which are - by the way - unanswered (A5

and UL

> > signification, manifestation during dasas).

> >

> > Of course, you have the right to follow your guru, which is

surely

> > very respectable. But we all know, there are different gurus

with very

> > different views. And no human being can grasp the whole truth

alone.

> > So for me - this is really my " Rahu-approach " it is very

difficult of

> > follow one guru only. But, please believe this, I RESPECT your

opinion

> > truly.

> >

> > Rahu is not such a bad or evil planet, even being a malefic.

Malefics

> > can do very well in a horoscope, Benefics can cause bad or evil

> > events. You know this, you surely have big knowledge (I was

visiting

> > your website).

> >

> > With deep respect

> > Pascal

> >

> > P.S.: Respect towards a person and objective critics on a certain

> > issue are two very different things. One can critize a guru and

have

> > deep respect towards his person and his work. And I think in

India

> > there are - like here in Europe - very different tradition

strings.

> > I do not want to offend you - in no way.

> >

> > P.S.: As a German - you know our history - I cannot and I will

not

> > rely blindly in any leader or guru. You know the possible

> > consequences. I hear, I try to understand, and where I

understand I

> > follow. Nothing else.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oooh yaar!!!

 

I missed the chance to prove that arudha is wrong....

 

Dear dont scare of UL and A7 in ninth and having Sa and Ra...

 

Your wife would be very spiritual and highly beautiful but sometime

dominating but no problem her beauty means Ve will suck all bad

aspect of Su....

 

But Su will also suck bad thing of Ve as Ve in seventh shorten life

of spouse....

 

Ju with Me very nice it will make your wife very spiritual....

 

and she would also be very learned....

 

But according to Arudha everything its opposite....

 

Best of Luck!!!!!

 

 

vedic astrology , " Mukesh verma "

<astromukesh wrote:

>

> Dear Prashant,

>

> to end your curiosity, I am still unmarried aged 29.

>

> regards,

> Mukesh Verma

>

> wish this world could be better..

>

> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Prashant <praspandey wrote:

>

> >

> > I think your natal chart is best to clarify the reality of

arudha....

> >

> > Your A7 and UL in 9'th with Sa and Ra....right

> >

> > now in 7'th house has benefics if we leave Su....

> >

> > Now 7'th lord is with Ju....

> >

> > So according to arudha and according to 7'th house lord and 7'th

house

> > concept both will give totally opposite answers, now i am

waiting for your

> > feed back about your spouse....

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Prashant Pandey

> >

> > Prashant <praspandey <praspandey%40.co.in>> wrote:

> > Mukesh tell me one thing are you married....

> >

> > If yes then i will confirm just now the reality of arudha from

your

> > chart....

> >

> > Please tell me...

> > Mukesh verma <astromukesh <astromukesh%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> > Dear Prashant,

> >

> > seeing your conversation today with rafal and pascal, it is

evident that

> > Pascal relied on his objective approach to question certain

astrological

> > concepts, whereas,

> > THE WORDS used by you for rafal were not very respectable.

> >

> > To maintaion the decorum of this Group you must not continue to

use such

> > words again.

> > As evident and sited by Pascal in your chart the combination of

Mars and

> > Budh, and rahu+ shani in 3 house makes you use communication

powers in

> > unrespectful ways.

> >

> > I am nobody, but I respect the Integrity of this discussion

forum, and I

> > believe that the Learned Gurus are here together with me.

> >

> > This forum is owned by none, but each of us need to show

respect, and

> > behave

> > like a team engaged in research work, and not like school kids

using

> > derogatory remarks on one another.

> >

> > I expect scholarly words to be used in the conversation on this

forum,

> > else

> > there would be no sense staying in this forum anymore after

having spend 2

> > years here.

> >

> > thanks and regards,

> > Mukesh Verma

> >

> > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:47 PM, pascalthomas_va

<pthomas69<pthomas69%40zipmail.com.br>

> > >

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear and Respected Rafal,

> > >

> > > thank you very much for your comments. I will not comment on

your

> > > quarrel with Prashant, seems also to be something personal

between you

> > > two, something personal.

> > >

> > > But: what you call " Rahu-approach " is the modern scientific

approach

> > > used in all sciences: experience, empiric value,

applicability. No

> > > techniques, no cars, no computers without this " Rahu-

approach " . What

> > > science e.g. physics would be, if students and professors would

> > > blindly believe in their gurus teachings? No, there is

criticism for

> > > the better! (Rafal, I would like to know your nationality.)

> > >

> > > I also can believe in some hidden meanings in ancient

scriptures, this

> > > may be an advantage for you. Lot of things are obvious. And if

you

> > > read my lines correctly, I am NOT totally against Arudhas. I

just

> > > raised some questions, which are - by the way - unanswered (A5

and UL

> > > signification, manifestation during dasas).

> > >

> > > Of course, you have the right to follow your guru, which is

surely

> > > very respectable. But we all know, there are different gurus

with very

> > > different views. And no human being can grasp the whole truth

alone.

> > > So for me - this is really my " Rahu-approach " it is very

difficult of

> > > follow one guru only. But, please believe this, I RESPECT your

opinion

> > > truly.

> > >

> > > Rahu is not such a bad or evil planet, even being a malefic.

Malefics

> > > can do very well in a horoscope, Benefics can cause bad or evil

> > > events. You know this, you surely have big knowledge (I was

visiting

> > > your website).

> > >

> > > With deep respect

> > > Pascal

> > >

> > > P.S.: Respect towards a person and objective critics on a

certain

> > > issue are two very different things. One can critize a guru

and have

> > > deep respect towards his person and his work. And I think in

India

> > > there are - like here in Europe - very different tradition

strings.

> > > I do not want to offend you - in no way.

> > >

> > > P.S.: As a German - you know our history - I cannot and I will

not

> > > rely blindly in any leader or guru. You know the possible

> > > consequences. I hear, I try to understand, and where I

understand I

> > > follow. Nothing else.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

*kleem namah narasimhaaya*

Dear Pascal , Namaskar

 

 

 

Rahu must have the assistance of Guru to make the good use of

akash-tattva otherwise the tradition will be weakened due to eclipse of

the Surya.

 

So first is s'abda (Guru upadesa) then you can use anumana. If you

accept some authority (based on rational checking) and then you reject

the same then your Guru is weakened in the chart due to this commitment

to aversion to truth and your prediction will go astray; therefore the

Guru mantra is so important to start anything in this Vedanga. And if

you read Harihara then Muhurta for Jyotish must have Guru in Lagna

instead of Rahu.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

 

>

> > Dear and Respected Rafal,

> >

> > thank you very much for your comments. I will not comment on your

> > quarrel with Prashant, seems also to be something personal between you

> > two, something personal.

> >

> > But: what you call " Rahu-approach " is the modern scientific approach

> > used in all sciences: experience, empiric value, applicability. No

> > techniques, no cars, no computers without this " Rahu-approach " . What

> > science e.g. physics would be, if students and professors would

> > blindly believe in their gurus teachings? No, there is criticism for

> > the better! (Rafal, I would like to know your nationality. )

> >

> > I also can believe in some hidden meanings in ancient scriptures, this

> > may be an advantage for you. Lot of things are obvious. And if you

> > read my lines correctly, I am NOT totally against Arudhas. I just

> > raised some questions, which are - by the way - unanswered (A5 and UL

> > signification, manifestation during dasas).

> >

> > Of course, you have the right to follow your guru, which is surely

> > very respectable. But we all know, there are different gurus with very

> > different views. And no human being can grasp the whole truth alone.

> > So for me - this is really my " Rahu-approach " it is very difficult of

> > follow one guru only. But, please believe this, I RESPECT your opinion

> > truly.

> >

> > Rahu is not such a bad or evil planet, even being a malefic. Malefics

> > can do very well in a horoscope, Benefics can cause bad or evil

> > events. You know this, you surely have big knowledge (I was visiting

> > your website).

> >

> > With deep respect

> > Pascal

> >

> > P.S.: Respect towards a person and objective critics on a certain

> > issue are two very different things. One can critize a guru and have

> > deep respect towards his person and his work. And I think in India

> > there are - like here in Europe - very different tradition strings.

> > I do not want to offend you - in no way.

> >

> > P.S.: As a German - you know our history - I cannot and I will not

> > rely blindly in any leader or guru. You know the possible

> > consequences. I hear, I try to understand, and where I understand I

> > follow. Nothing else.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rafal,

 

why don't you speak with clear words? This all sounds very " esoteric "

to me.

 

You have made the second insult towards my person today in this forum:

my " commitment to aversion to truth " .

 

I respect you, but you cannot show any respect towards my person.

This is not acceptable.

 

If you want to, feel free to read my following message in this forum.

 

Regards,

Pascal

[Guest guest]

*kleem namah narasimhaaya*

Dear Pascal , Namaskar

 

Nope, never.

 

Sorry if you feel hurted it was not my ambition.

 

Im strongly against those weakness in us. Even I have Rahu in Lagna.

 

When Rahu/Shani afflicts 1/5 or 3/9 then the risk is there. Atmakaraka

in kona is the protector.

 

Its not esoteric but deep, you are enough intelligent to make good use

of this.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

 

 

 

pascalthomas_va napisa?(a):

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> why don't you speak with clear words? This all sounds very " esoteric "

> to me.

>

> You have made the second insult towards my person today in this forum:

> my " commitment to aversion to truth " .

>

> I respect you, but you cannot show any respect towards my person.

> This is not acceptable.

>

> If you want to, feel free to read my following message in this forum.

>

> Regards,

> Pascal

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Rafal,

 

thank you, your excuse is accepted.

Let us forget this, this was not a good day for me in this group.

 

Let me express once again my respect for you; before joining this

group I've read lots of messages, also some of you. I know you give

really good advice.

 

Yours Sincerely

Pascal

[Guest guest]

*kleem namah narasimhaaya*

Dear Pascal , Namaskar

 

Can you share your details, here or privately?

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

 

 

pascalthomas_va napisa?(a):

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> thank you, your excuse is accepted.

> Let us forget this, this was not a good day for me in this group.

>

> Let me express once again my respect for you; before joining this

> group I've read lots of messages, also some of you. I know you give

> really good advice.

>

> Yours Sincerely

> Pascal

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Rafal,

 

tried to send you a private email but it returns.

Plz give your mail, if you don't mind, I prefer this way.

 

Regards,

Pascal

[Guest guest]

*kleem namah narasimhaaya*

Dear Pascal , Namaskar

 

try this one:

rafal

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

 

 

pascalthomas_va napisa?(a):

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> tried to send you a private email but it returns.

> Plz give your mail, if you don't mind, I prefer this way.

>

> Regards,

> Pascal

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Respected Rafal Ji and Pascal Ji,

Both of you are very

intelligent and full of wisdom.I liked all of your e-mails.

 

Those were like online learning.

 

Here we are also for learning.Pascal ji please make some corner in your site

for online learning.

 

I liked all your e-mails and also of Respected Rafal Ji.

 

Thanks and Regards

Prashant Pandey

 

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

*kleem namah narasimhaaya*

Dear Pascal , Namaskar

 

Nope, never.

 

Sorry if you feel hurted it was not my ambition.

 

Im strongly against those weakness in us. Even I have Rahu in Lagna.

 

When Rahu/Shani afflicts 1/5 or 3/9 then the risk is there. Atmakaraka

in kona is the protector.

 

Its not esoteric but deep, you are enough intelligent to make good use

of this.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

 

pascalthomas_va napisa?(a):

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> why don't you speak with clear words? This all sounds very " esoteric "

> to me.

>

> You have made the second insult towards my person today in this forum:

> my " commitment to aversion to truth " .

>

> I respect you, but you cannot show any respect towards my person.

> This is not acceptable.

>

> If you want to, feel free to read my following message in this forum.

>

> Regards,

> Pascal

>

>