vipareeta raja yoga

[Guest guest]

dear guruji,

I am having fully vipareeta raja yoga as per all the texts.

But it is not working can you please explain me in detail about this.

 

My horoscope is as follows,

 

aquarius - ascendant

pieses- venus

aries- jupiter and kethu

cancer- saturn

virgo-moon

libra - rahu

capricorn- mars sun and mercury

 

my date of birth is 7th feb 1977

time of birth is 7-23 am

place of birth is hubli, karnataka

 

thanks in advance

aakash

[Guest guest]

Dear AAkash Ji Namaskar,

According to the definition

of VRY,yes there is.

 

But according to my understanding practically,one planet should suck

all miseries of all planets to make turn around.Means that planet

should comeout from 3,6,8,12 by sucking all set backs.Your Sa is

also involved so VRY is on you.But which planet should give result.I

think it is Ma.It is exalted but in 12'th so good results will come

out after much struggle and in very deep crisis.

 

No planet is giving result of VRY in best way.Only Ma but after very

deep crisis.

 

But please dont fear,you will do good.

 

Best of Luck!!!

 

Prashant Pandey

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " aakashpramod "

<aakashpramod wrote:

>

> dear guruji,

> I am having fully vipareeta raja yoga as per all the

texts.

> But it is not working can you please explain me in detail about

this.

>

> My horoscope is as follows,

>

> aquarius - ascendant

> pieses- venus

> aries- jupiter and kethu

> cancer- saturn

> virgo-moon

> libra - rahu

> capricorn- mars sun and mercury

>

> my date of birth is 7th feb 1977

> time of birth is 7-23 am

> place of birth is hubli, karnataka

>

> thanks in advance

> aakash

>

[Guest guest]

Dear AAkash Ji Namaskar,

According to the definition

of VRY,yes there is.

 

But according to my understanding practically,one planet should suck

all miseries of all planets to make turn around.Means that planet

should comeout from 3,6,8,12 by sucking all set backs.Your Sa is

also involved so VRY is on you.But which planet should give result.I

think it is Ma.It is exalted but in 12'th so good results will come

out after much struggle and in very deep crisis.

 

No planet is giving result of VRY in best way.Only Ma but after very

deep crisis.

 

But please dont fear,you will do good.

 

Best of Luck!!!

 

Prashant Pandey

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " aakashpramod "

<aakashpramod wrote:

>

> dear guruji,

> I am having fully vipareeta raja yoga as per all the

texts.

> But it is not working can you please explain me in detail about

this.

>

> My horoscope is as follows,

>

> aquarius - ascendant

> pieses- venus

> aries- jupiter and kethu

> cancer- saturn

> virgo-moon

> libra - rahu

> capricorn- mars sun and mercury

>

> my date of birth is 7th feb 1977

> time of birth is 7-23 am

> place of birth is hubli, karnataka

>

> thanks in advance

> aakash

>

[Guest guest]

Dear AAkash, Dear Prashant,

 

the effects of yogas in general depend upon

a. strenghts of grahas participating

b. good/bad avasthas of them

c. house positions of them (dusthanas? upachayas?)

d. received drishties (e.g. from malefics)

f. amsa positions

 

If bad drishti, good VRY gets damaged.

If debilitated or in evil sign in D-9, D-60 or other, it gets damaged.

 

Regards,

Pascal

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sir for inputs.

 

I will also give heed on those points.

 

pascalthomas_va <pthomas69 wrote:

Dear AAkash, Dear Prashant,

 

the effects of yogas in general depend upon

a. strenghts of grahas participating

b. good/bad avasthas of them

c. house positions of them (dusthanas? upachayas?)

d. received drishties (e.g. from malefics)

f. amsa positions

 

If bad drishti, good VRY gets damaged.

If debilitated or in evil sign in D-9, D-60 or other, it gets damaged.

 

Regards,

Pascal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I've read that great astrologer B.V. Raman did not have good opinion

of VPR, he rejected them. Is this correct?

 

Regards

Pascal

[Guest guest]

I dont know any author or any book....But have full repect to all minded and

intelligent person.I do respect to wisdom.

 

But there are some limitations on VRY according to my understanding,might be

in books already.....Dont want to disclose here fully....

 

Just giving one Idea with the help of two cases:-

 

1) In Libra Su and Sa are there.

 

2) In Ar Su and Sa are there.

 

Second is better VRY then first one.

 

Clue is Transits.

 

Thanks again to Pascal Ji for inputs.

 

Prashant Pandey

 

pascalthomas_va <pthomas69 wrote:

I've read that great astrologer B.V. Raman did not have good opinion

of VPR, he rejected them. Is this correct?

 

Regards

Pascal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it.

 

 

[Guest guest]

*kleem namah narasimhaaya*

Dear Pascal , Namaskar

 

Nope it isnt. VRA yogas are very important and show influential position

due to dethrowment (Shani) of others (friend or enemy depending on sign).

 

You can judge PV Narasimha Rao politic chart to analyze the yoga.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

 

 

 

 

 

pascalthomas_va napisa?(a):

>

> I've read that great astrologer B.V. Raman did not have good opinion

> of VPR, he rejected them. Is this correct?

>

> Regards

> Pascal

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

*kleem namah narasimhaaya*

Dear Ashish , Namaskar

 

Yes, the VRA is working and its also rajayoga. Its Ra-Bu; so if its

Kumbha Dasamsa then naturally its not easy time for career.

 

Can you provide some details about your work with timings?

 

Where you interested in biology/chemistry/medicine?

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

 

 

aakashpramod napisa?(a):

>

> dear guruji,

> I am having fully vipareeta raja yoga as per all the texts.

> But it is not working can you please explain me in detail about this.

>

> My horoscope is as follows,

>

> aquarius - ascendant

> pieses- venus

> aries- jupiter and kethu

> cancer- saturn

> virgo-moon

> libra - rahu

> capricorn- mars sun and mercury

>

> my date of birth is 7th feb 1977

> time of birth is 7-23 am

> place of birth is hubli, karnataka

>

> thanks in advance

> aakash

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Prashant,

 

interesting examples:

1) Su, Sa in Libra: Sun debilitated, Saturn exalted

2) Su, Sa in Aries: Sun exalted, Saturn debilitated

 

Question is, which of these two VRY are better...

 

Interpretation of isolated constellation/yoga leads to false

conclusions as we know.

 

Other graha influences on Su and Sa (Drishtis) and navamsa and other

vargas positions have to be considered as well for proper

interpretation, as you already have been agreeing with. And balas and

avasthas are often underestimated as well in their importance.

 

Best Regards!

Pascal

[Guest guest]

Dear Rafal,

 

thank you for your precious hint. I'm glad you're replying to me.

 

I would like to know your interpretation

a. of 6th lord in 12th

b. of 12th lord in 6th.

c. of PVR 6th in 12th/12th in 6th

 

You know, I do stick very much on BPHS (and other scriptures),

so I would like to remember these interpretations in §24:

 

Ari Lord in Vyaya Bhava

7 " 2. If Ari's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always spend on

vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture living beings. "

 

Vyaya Lord in Ari

" 138. If Vyaya's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur enmity

with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable and will go

to others' wives. "

 

So, these evil effects are neutralized when 6th Lord in 12th AND 12th

Lord in 6th?

 

This is a very interesting and important question to me.

 

Thank again for replying, Rafal!

 

Best wishes

Pascal

[Guest guest]

Respected Pascal Ji,

 

Yes i fully agree with you,we should go for Lunar mansions and exact strength

of magnetic fields which are coming on earth due to position of planet in solar

system and also its relative speed wrt to earth.

 

Bala and D-charts are only component of force in certain direction.

 

Component of force(D-chart) is not only neccesary but measurement of that

component(Bala) is neccesary.If a planet is stationary wrt earth then it is

nothing of no use for us(Means when planet is going from Margi to Vakri or Vakri

to Magi).

 

Please also consider 3-dimensional view not stick to only ecliptic plane.

 

Why pluto is unpredictible because all of us try to take its picture in 2

dimension not in 3 dimension.Pluto's orbit is higly inclined and also higly

elliptical.

 

Leave this matter here otherwise it will go beyond astrology.

 

I have very interesting concept of what exactly Lunar Mansions are.Why Rewati

is of this planet and Ardra of this planet.Might be already in books,dont know.

 

Excuse from other members as somebody cud raise concern that i am going out of

astrology but still i am in the boundary of astrology.

 

Thanks and Regards

Prashant Pandey

 

 

pascalthomas_va <pthomas69 wrote:

Dear Prashant,

 

interesting examples:

1) Su, Sa in Libra: Sun debilitated, Saturn exalted

2) Su, Sa in Aries: Sun exalted, Saturn debilitated

 

Question is, which of these two VRY are better...

 

Interpretation of isolated constellation/yoga leads to false

conclusions as we know.

 

Other graha influences on Su and Sa (Drishtis) and navamsa and other

vargas positions have to be considered as well for proper

interpretation, as you already have been agreeing with. And balas and

avasthas are often underestimated as well in their importance.

 

Best Regards!

Pascal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Rafal,

 

appreciate your reply very much, it does help me and it does confirm

me that dusthana lord in dusthana lord is quite good after mastering

some obstacles. VPR surely DOES work.

 

Will continue studying these yogas.

 

Kindly Regards

Pascal

[Guest guest]

*kleem namah narasimhaaya*

Dear Pascal , Namaskar

 

Yes, it is very similar to badhakesh but doesnt show obstacles but

hurdles. If the good lord [kendra/kona] is yuti that yoga then this area

suffers, but there

are also some exceptions to this.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

 

 

 

pascalthomas_va napisa?(a):

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> appreciate your reply very much, it does help me and it does confirm

> me that dusthana lord in dusthana lord is quite good after mastering

> some obstacles. VPR surely DOES work.

>

> Will continue studying these yogas.

>

> Kindly Regards

> Pascal

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Respected Prashant,

 

surely nakshatras are subestimated in chart interpretation, they have

an enormeous impact in KP Astrology, which is a type of reunion of

important Vedic and Western astrology principles. A put Prash Trivedis

explanations in files sections, they are really deep and read-worthy.

 

We have to remember that most important dasas - vimshottari and

conditional - are based on nakshatra lords! So nakshatra lords - not

just rasi lords - are ruling one's planets behaviour again, at perhaps

even primarily.

 

You've raised once more important questions, which are not beyond the

scope of astrology, but for now I haven't time to reply on this as you

deserve it, Prashant.

 

I will do this later.

 

Best wishes once again!

Pascal

[Guest guest]

Bhagavathi,

 

I fully agree with your statements. Exzept in my maybe wrong

perception lot of people do not consider nakshatra lords but only rasi

lords. KP sublords also are importants as I have some inclination to

KP astrology.

 

Best Wishes

Pascal

[Guest guest]

Bhagavathi,

 

sorry, I've forgotten one important point:

Proof for my argumentation is that most people only speak about " moon

in pisces " or " guru in leo " etc., but very few people about " moon in

bharani " or " shani in kritikka " .

 

That was what I meant with " subestimation " .

In my view Nakshatras are as important as Rasis.

Plz. do not underestimate former Western Astrologers.

 

Yours Sincerely

Pascal

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhagavathi,

 

thank you very much.

 

You have expressed many thoughts of mine.

Astrology is science.

 

Sincerely

Pascal

[Guest guest]

what exactly is wrong nowadays in Vedic astrology groups?

 

I find both Jyotish group and vedic astrology is full of spamming and

fightings.

 

Let us get back to astrology and studieds, friends

 

There is nothing wrong if we remain humble and keep quite even if someone

insults us.

 

And remember, in astrology, there is no 'great' or 'little' gurujan - who

are we when compared to Parasara and Varaha mihira?

 

Before them, even the best of the today's lot also will be like a small spec

of fire paling in the light of Sun

 

*so, just forget your egos and dont fight. *

**

Kishore patnaik

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--

Love is a fruit in season at all times,

and within the reach of every hand.

~:~ Mother Theresa ~:~

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I agree!!!

 

kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: what exactly is

wrong nowadays in Vedic astrology groups?

 

I find both Jyotish group and vedic astrology is full of spamming and

fightings.

 

Let us get back to astrology and studieds, friends

 

There is nothing wrong if we remain humble and keep quite even if someone

insults us.

 

And remember, in astrology, there is no 'great' or 'little' gurujan - who

are we when compared to Parasara and Varaha mihira?

 

Before them, even the best of the today's lot also will be like a small spec

of fire paling in the light of Sun

 

*so, just forget your egos and dont fight. *

**

Kishore patnaik

 

--

Love is a fruit in season at all times,

and within the reach of every hand.

~:~ Mother Theresa ~:~

 

 

[Guest guest]

||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Mr.Akash,

There are two planets involved in VRY in your chart---1)Mercury & 2)

Moon.Mercury is the lord of 5th & 8th house, who is in 12th house,

while Moon, being the 6th house is in 8th house. The Moon Mahadasa

commenced & finished during your teens, when it was hardly anything

to understand wut are its good & ill effects.

There are few similarities with your Mercury & Moon in your

horoscope. Both are in Payodhi Shashtyamsha, & in Sun's Nakshtra.

Both Moon & Mercury are being aspected by retrograde Saturn, thus

causing blemish to the planets. Mercury is also lord of 22nd

Drekkana. During Rahu-Mercury period (the period frm Dec,3, 2005

thru June 20, 2008) your health must be not be good & u might have

health issues, specially water related like diabetes??

Again,VRY is not a Rajyoga, the results of which you feel in one

fine morning. The results of VRY come through hardships, not in

luxury. you can pray to Shree Vishnu(for Mercury) & Lakshmi(for

Moon).

My Best Wishes,

.

(Private consultation is chargeable)

vedic astrology , " aakashpramod "

<aakashpramod wrote:

>

> dear guruji,

> I am having fully vipareeta raja yoga as per all the

texts.

> But it is not working can you please explain me in detail about

this.

>

> My horoscope is as follows,

>

> aquarius - ascendant

> pieses- venus

> aries- jupiter and kethu

> cancer- saturn

> virgo-moon

> libra - rahu

> capricorn- mars sun and mercury

>

> my date of birth is 7th feb 1977

> time of birth is 7-23 am

> place of birth is hubli, karnataka

>

> thanks in advance

> aakash

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Srimati,

 

(hopefully Srimati is your first name, plz. allow me to take it,

and hopefully you did not speak in a very bad manner about me when you

wrote hindi...)

 

You are obviously a very learned person. I do not know anymore where

I've read B.V. Raman's statement, somewhere in the web, perhaps even

in this group. But I know that he did not mention this VPR in his " 300

yogas " book. Did not know that he talked about it his introductory

book, interesting.

 

If we compare vedic astrology book, there is much more written about

rasis/bhavas than about nakshatras. This is a provable fact. This is

wrong from my point of view. You Indians have some hidden treasures.

 

Actually I'm working on nakshatras, and this improves my understanding

of my Vimshottari Dasa Cycles very much, taking into account lord of

nakshatra (ruling the behaviour of planet) and its sublord as well.

 

My Sun has Rasi Lord Jupiter and Nakshatra Lord Saturn, which gives me

a clue to various experiences during VS Sun Mahadasa. Of course,

Navamsa is important in the same manner.

 

So we have some kind of " holy trinity " :

a. Rasi

b. Nakshatra

c. Navamsa

 

What you have said about astrologer's practice is very, very

optimistic. Here in Europe there are many " false " astrologers, with

wish just to make much money, not trustworthy. Think in India the

situation is the same, there was a email of a childless couple in

India a couple of days ago hopelessly telling us their dispair after

visits at various astrologers, " they only want money " .

 

What you've written is a " must be " , but in reality it is not very

wide-spreaded. SJC and single astrologers are making level higher.

 

Seems to me that few astrologers really consider conditional dasas as

well as VSD.

 

In a comment before I've made some statements about astrologer's

qualification. Nowadays lot of communicative and psychological skills

are necessary (but there is no need for a universitary psychology

study of course). Most important is respect with regard to the

client's need. An astrologer - as you have stated - may have a lot of

wisdom, but lack of communicative skills and wisdom makes him a bad

astrologer. This applies to a lot of astrologers nowadays.

 

So this science will continue disrespected as " superstition " by broad

publicity and of course scientists.

 

Would you mind tell me your moon's, lagna's and sun's nakshatra and

perhaps even navamsa?

 

I like very much communication with learned and spiritual people.

 

This way of communication is certainly allowed in this forum, don't

mind about some people denying this freedom.

 

Best wishes from Germany,

and all blessings from Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva

Pascal

[Guest guest]

Dear Kishore patnaik,

 

you've hitted the point, exactly in the middle.

 

Nothing more to add.

 

Thank you very much, nothing more to add

Pascal

 

vedic astrology , " kishore patnaik "

<kishorepatnaik09 wrote:

>

> what exactly is wrong nowadays in Vedic astrology groups?

>

> I find both Jyotish group and vedic astrology is full of spamming and

> fightings.

>

> Let us get back to astrology and studieds, friends

>

> There is nothing wrong if we remain humble and keep quite even if

someone

> insults us.

>

> And remember, in astrology, there is no 'great' or 'little' gurujan

- who

> are we when compared to Parasara and Varaha mihira?

>

> Before them, even the best of the today's lot also will be like a

small spec

> of fire paling in the light of Sun

>

> *so, just forget your egos and dont fight. *

> **

> Kishore patnaik

>

>

--

> Love is a fruit in season at all times,

> and within the reach of every hand.

> ~:~ Mother Theresa ~:~

>

>

>