Suggestions for JHora, Kalachakra Observations, Trimsamsa, Ayanamsa

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Om Datta Guru

Dear Pascal

 

Ofcourse i do not see you as a Talibanist, I love shlokas a lot and at

the same time i experiment very wildly though at risks lol. What i was

trying to say that as of now the parampara knowledge in india hidden and

even if they come out to give the various hidden meanings or original

texts all of us will never accept them. Who wants to learn 11 types of

Chara Dasa, even though Parasara has taught about Chara Dasa but beyond

Vimshottari our mind cant function though at the same time we need to

stick to one and master it. But then its fun to see masters not use any

dasas and predict beautifully.

 

Very few dedicated lot like 80 yr old Sri Madura Krishnamoorthy Sastri

who can go to Jaipur and sit 6 months in the Observatory (astronomy) to

dig deeper on the ayanamsa issue.

 

Research is fine and many have said about it before. In Jyotish Group i

wrote about the need for a some years back and though there

was support for it but i knows its not that easy, everyone is not free

to do it.

 

In those early days i had time but now no more due to various other

jyotish projects.

 

best wishes

 

Sunil John

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " pascalthomas_va "

<pthomas69 wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil,

>

> thank you for your long and interesting comment.

>

> I truly hope I am not a " shloka talibanist " when I refer to BPHS (or

> other scriptures), quoting it (but I really like this expression, very

> creative wording!). At least I am not a terrorist... (perhaps

> something like a " spiritual terrorist " like Osho...)

>

> I agree with you in many points, and as you stated, many points

> regarding certain techniques/methods or interpretation rules are still

> subject to further discussion. I think this is a good group to do so,

> and I have been learning a lot in this group.

>

> > " I agree with everyone wants to prove his system better. "

> Exactly my point. But this evidence has to be made and verified by a

> lot of astrologers, not only by one or two or three, this is my

> viewpoint. This takes a lot of time, and surely we can expect progress

> within the following decades.

>

> What I want to say is: If we astrologers want to get more respected in

> public and by scientifics, we have to do more research, we have to

> make agreements on certain important issues (dasa calculations,

> ayanamsa and so on). Astrology is of great importance, our modern

> times really need this knowledge, it is not good at all if every

> astrologer follows only his own path. There have to be some mutual

> agreements as well, and this is until now not really the case. I hope

> this will change in future. We astrologers have to master our ego and

> to make more co-work. Mutual respect is necessary, and - perhaps this

> is my wrong perception - very often jyotish gurus do not respect each

> other.

>

> Thank you for your interesting background information, Sunil!

>

> Sincerely

> Pascal

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil,

 

thanks for your reply.

 

" Who wants to learn 11 types of Chara Dasa, even though Parasara has

taught about Chara Dasa but beyond Vimshottari our mind cant function

though at the same time we need to stick to one and master it. "

> Yes, absolutely right. As I said before, there probably is just ONE

correct Chara Dasa, so in my view most Chara Dasas taught today are

false. Perhaps today we even do not know correct Chara Dasa!

> I agree with you fully when you state that it is important to master

at least ONE dasa, which normally is Vimshottari, " the most

appropriate in kali yuga " . It is more important to master ONE dasa

system than to use a dozen erroneously. Next dasa would be to master

conditional dasas, which are really underestimated. Next dasa then in

my view Moola Dasa and Kalachakra Dasa. These dasas may be sufficient

for all purposes.

 

" But then its fun to see masters not use any dasas and predict

beautifully. "

> Perhaps they used transits, or they were really seers. This is far

beyond my scope and abilities.

 

" Very few dedicated lot like 80 yr old Sri Madura Krishnamoorthy

Sastri who can go to Jaipur and sit 6 months in the Observatory

(astronomy) to dig deeper on the ayanamsa issue. "

> Research do not have to be done by everyone, of course. Only those

who are seriously and professionally engaged in astrology.

> I have the suspicion that KP ayanamsa (using Newcomb's precession

correction rate) gives better results in Vimshottari etc.

 

" Research is fine and many have said about it before. "

> Few astrologers so research, unfortunately. So astrology is not a

respected science, and it deserves this respect.

 

Best wishes for your life, Sunil!

Regards

Pascal