Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Dear Sheri, This is a fascinating research. Thanks for sharing it with the list. Have you collected more data related with NASA (more events, links, etc…)? Let us look to the event: Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-Mercury) NASA dasha: Ve/Me/Ju/Ma/Me. Transit Venus was badly placed and afflicted by natal Rahu, and natal Venus was afflicted by transit Saturn. Besides being FMP in D6 and D4, transit/natal Mercury, L3, was combust (fire) and operational twice. Transit Mercury was in a square position of retrograde Rahu/Ketu axis, and the MEP of its MT sign house was afflicted by transit Saturn. Transit Jupiter was retrograde in H1, and its dispositor in rasi, Venus, was afflicted as seen above. Also Jupiter’s dispositor in transit, the natal Moon, L1, was exactly afflicted by transit Rahu and Ketu, which means that the native, NASA, was under a multiple affliction. Transit Mars was in infancy, weakly disposed, and afflicted by the natal Rahu/Ketu axis. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powers quarta-feira, 12 de Julho de 2006 05:35 Samva Nasa Dear Group, Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia(76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely seem to fit. Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Mars-Rahu) Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Rahu-Ketu) First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun-Moon) Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun-Rahu) Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-Mercury) I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun-Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers  -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release 11.07.2006 -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release 11.07.2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Hi Sheri, You have done some marvelous research on NASA that proves there is more than one way to look at the space program other than launch times. To add what you said about the Apollo 13 mission, upon their critical return to earth, the benefic planets Mars, Mercury, and Venus suddenly became strong in transit. I do share your hope for a safe return of the current mission. Thank you! Warm regards, Shayn SAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: > > Dear Group, > Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia (76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely seem to fit. > Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Mars-Rahu) > Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Rahu-Ketu) > First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun- Moon) > Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun- Rahu) > Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus- Mercury) > I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun- Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Dear Jorge, Thankyou so much for displaying the chart and your analysis of the event below. I misread the varga data- Mercury is not FMP in D9. I will find more information-links, events, etc and share it with the list. Sincerely, Sheri PowersJorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Dear Sheri, This is a fascinating research. Thanks for sharing it with the list. Have you collected more data related with NASA (more events, links, etc…)? Let us look to the event: Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-Mercury) NASA dasha: Ve/Me/Ju/Ma/Me. Transit Venus was badly placed and afflicted by natal Rahu, and natal Venus was afflicted by transit Saturn. Besides being FMP in D6 and D4, transit/natal Mercury, L3, was combust (fire) and operational twice. Transit Mercury was in a square position of retrograde Rahu/Ketu axis, and the MEP of its MT sign house was afflicted by transit Saturn. Transit Jupiter was retrograde in H1, and its dispositor in rasi, Venus, was afflicted as seen above. Also Jupiter’s dispositor in transit, the natal Moon, L1, was exactly afflicted by transit Rahu and Ketu, which means that the native, NASA, was under a multiple affliction. Transit Mars was in infancy, weakly disposed, and afflicted by the natal Rahu/Ketu axis. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powersquarta-feira, 12 de Julho de 2006 05:35Samva Subject: Nasa Dear Group, Thankyou to Professor Choudhry and Mr. Rao for your kind words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia(76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely seem to fit. Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Mars-Rahu) Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Rahu-Ketu) First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun-Moon) Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun-Rahu) Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-Mercury) I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun-Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers  --Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release 11.07.2006 --Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release 11.07.2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Dear Shayn, Thankyou for your analysis of the problems with the launch and bringing it to everyone's attention. Please note that I was incorrect about Mercury being FMP in D9, I misread the varga data of the Nasa chart. I am so happy Jorge has displayed the chart and astutely analyzed the Apollo 1 event-I will do more research and get back to everyone- Thanks again- SheriShayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: Hi Sheri,You have done some marvelous research on NASA that proves there is more than one way to look at the space program other than launch times. To add what you said about the Apollo 13 mission, upon their critical return to earth, the benefic planets Mars, Mercury, and Venus suddenly became strong in transit. I do share your hope for a safe return of the current mission. Thank you!Warm regards,ShaynSAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote:>> Dear Group,> Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia(76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely seem to fit. > Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Mars-Rahu)> Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Rahu-Ketu)> First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun-Moon)> Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun-Rahu)> Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-Mercury)> I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun-Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers> > > > > > > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Hi Shayn- Also I appreciate your note on the transits of Mercury, Venus and Mars becoming stronger when Apollo 13 returned. I hadn't noticed that previously and I am so glad to be on this forum with such astute astrologers helping me learn the great science of Systems Approach Astrology. Sincerely, Sheri PowersShayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: Hi Sheri,You have done some marvelous research on NASA that proves there is more than one way to look at the space program other than launch times. To add what you said about the Apollo 13 mission, upon their critical return to earth, the benefic planets Mars, Mercury, and Venus suddenly became strong in transit. I do share your hope for a safe return of the current mission. Thank you!Warm regards,ShaynSAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote:>> Dear Group,> Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia(76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely seem to fit. > Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Mars-Rahu)> Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Rahu-Ketu)> First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun-Moon)> Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun-Rahu)> Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-Mercury)> I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun-Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers> > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Dear Sheri, Thanks in advance. Due to the lack of attention, I also said that Mercury is a FMP for D4, but I should have said D8. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powers quarta-feira, 12 de Julho de 2006 17:24 SAMVA RE: Nasa Dear Jorge, Thankyou so much for displaying the chart and your analysis of the event below. I misread the varga data- Mercury is not FMP in D9. I will find more information-links, events, etc and share it with the list. Sincerely, Sheri Powers Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Dear Sheri, This is a fascinating research. Thanks for sharing it with the list. Have you collected more data related with NASA (more events, links, etc…)? Let us look to the event: Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-Mercury) NASA dasha: Ve/Me/Ju/Ma/Me. Transit Venus was badly placed and afflicted by natal Rahu, and natal Venus was afflicted by transit Saturn. Besides being FMP in D6 and D4, transit/natal Mercury, L3, was combust (fire) and operational twice. Transit Mercury was in a square position of retrograde Rahu/Ketu axis, and the MEP of its MT sign house was afflicted by transit Saturn. Transit Jupiter was retrograde in H1, and its dispositor in rasi, Venus, was afflicted as seen above. Also Jupiter’s dispositor in transit, the natal Moon, L1, was exactly afflicted by transit Rahu and Ketu, which means that the native, NASA, was under a multiple affliction. Transit Mars was in infancy, weakly disposed, and afflicted by the natal Rahu/Ketu axis. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powers quarta-feira, 12 de Julho de 2006 05:35 Samva Nasa Dear Group, Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia(76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely seem to fit. Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Mars-Rahu) Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Rahu-Ketu) First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun-Moon) Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun-Rahu) Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-Mercury) I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun-Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers  -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release 11.07.2006 -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release 11.07.2006  -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release 11.07.2006 -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release 11.07.2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Hi Sheri, It takes many different people around a great idea ('s SA!)to make a vital listserv. We all benefit. Thank you for your contributions! Warm regards, Shayn SAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: > > Hi Shayn- > > Also I appreciate your note on the transits of Mercury, Venus and Mars becoming stronger when Apollo 13 returned. I hadn't noticed that previously and I am so glad to be on this forum with such astute astrologers helping me learn the great science of Systems Approach Astrology. Sincerely, Sheri Powers > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: > Hi Sheri, > You have done some marvelous research on NASA that proves there is > more than one way to look at the space program other than launch > times. To add what you said about the Apollo 13 mission, upon their > critical return to earth, the benefic planets Mars, Mercury, and > Venus suddenly became strong in transit. I do share your hope for a > safe return of the current mission. > > Thank you! > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > SAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind > words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct > analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao > and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa > chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at > 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, > 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia > (76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is > Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I > apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied > some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share > the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the > transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely > seem to fit. > > Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla > (Mars-Rahu) > > Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla > (Rahu-Ketu) > > First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun- > Moon) > > Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun- > Rahu) > > Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus- > Mercury) > > I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in > the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some > of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a > FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 > explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun- > Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 > Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had > transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you > look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are > afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal > Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe > return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Dear Jorge and list, To get Nasa's birth date info, go to www.history.nasa.gov , click on anniversaries (to the left of screen) click on Nasa's 45th anniversary. Also go to www.astrodatabank.com/NM/Columbia.htm . Astrologers there were analyzing the Columbia incident, and if you scroll down, they have Nasa birth info. They also have birth dates but not times for the astronauts of Columbia. ( aside-I noted that 3 of the astronauts of Columbia were born in 1961 when Jupiter was debillitated) to get Nasa shuttle mission dates and times go to www.history.nasa.gov click on human spaceflight (left of screen) scroll to space shuttle and click, then click on The Flights of the Space Shuttle. I then scrolled down to 1981(click view) to get the first successful shuttle flight, as that was a big event- click on STS-1 mission summary. To get Apollo mission dates and times, after clicking on human spaceflight, scroll to Apollo and at the bottom is Lunar Exploration Timeline 1959-1976-click on that. In the Nasa chart I added the following successful events for Nasa- 1st launch Columbia-April 12, 1981, 07:00:00 am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Moon/Merc) Apollo 12- Nov 14, 1969, 11:22:00am, Cape Canaveral, Fla (Sun/Mars) Apollo 14-Jan 31, 1971, 16:03:02 pm, Cape Canaveral, Fla (Sun/Jup) Apollo 15-July 26, 1971, 09:34:00 am, Cape Canaveral, Fla (Sun/Jup) When I looked at the chart for the first successful shuttle launch, I noted that it was very afflicted, and noted the negative sub periods for Cancer rising for Apollo 14 and 15. I know that many government agencies open for business at around 7am, so I am considering changing the birth time to that which gives Virgo rising and perhaps more fitting dasa sub periods.(Actually around 7:15 am works better.) I invite anyone interested to check this and all comments and criticisms are greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Sheri PowersJorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Dear Sheri, Thanks in advance. Due to the lack of attention, I also said that Mercury is a FMP for D4, but I should have said D8. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powersquarta-feira, 12 de Julho de 2006 17:24SAMVA Subject: RE: Nasa Dear Jorge, Thankyou so much for displaying the chart and your analysis of the event below. I misread the varga data- Mercury is not FMP in D9. I will find more information-links, events, etc and share it with the list. Sincerely, Sheri PowersJorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Dear Sheri, This is a fascinating research. Thanks for sharing it with the list. Have you collected more data related with NASA (more events, links, etc…)? Let us look to the event: Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-Mercury) NASA dasha: Ve/Me/Ju/Ma/Me. Transit Venus was badly placed and afflicted by natal Rahu, and natal Venus was afflicted by transit Saturn. Besides being FMP in D6 and D4, transit/natal Mercury, L3, was combust (fire) and operational twice. Transit Mercury was in a square position of retrograde Rahu/Ketu axis, and the MEP of its MT sign house was afflicted by transit Saturn. Transit Jupiter was retrograde in H1, and its dispositor in rasi, Venus, was afflicted as seen above. Also Jupiter’s dispositor in transit, the natal Moon, L1, was exactly afflicted by transit Rahu and Ketu, which means that the native, NASA, was under a multiple affliction. Transit Mars was in infancy, weakly disposed, and afflicted by the natal Rahu/Ketu axis. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powersquarta-feira, 12 de Julho de 2006 05:35Samva Subject: Nasa Dear Group, Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia(76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely seem to fit. Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Mars-Rahu) Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Rahu-Ketu) First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun-Moon) Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun-Rahu) Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-Mercury) I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun-Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers  --Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release 11.07.2006 --Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release 11.07.2006  --Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release 11.07.2006 --Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release 11.07.2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Dear Sheri, Isn't interesting that this afternoon I received a copy of the ISAR (International Society for Astrological Research) Journal with an article on NASA! Although, the author could not pinpoint the time the NASA Act was signed into law as you did. The complete article, written from a tropical perspective, is at http://www.valkyrieastrology.com/Articles/NASA Accidents/Astrological Influences and NASA Accidents.htm I won't comment on the author's premise for the accidents because it does not relate to SA. I did look at the two charts (for the signing of the Act and the first day of operation) and have a few observations. I decided to focus on man's first landing on the moon rather than disasters for a change of pace. The 7/29/58 NASA Act chart shows a Virgo ascendant which makes sense given the attention to detail needed to accomplish their missions. But there are too many weaknesses and afflictions that make no sense given the successes of NASA. For example, could the first man on the moon really take place during a weak and badly placed Mercury subperiod? The 10/1/58 NASA first day chart, set for midnight, fares a bit better with Moon as the chart ruler. How fitting! And the first man landed on the moon during a moon subperiod. Yet at the time of the landing malefic Jupiter was afflicting Mars, 10L and the Rahu/Ketu axis was afflicting the odd-numbered houses. This doesn't seem to fit. If we start that same chart for 8am when most workdays begin, then for the first moon landing we see a moon major period and moon subperiod. Interesting. The transits would show a strong benefic Mars conjunct the house of status. Certainly a feather in the cap of NASA, huh? More work needs to be done to rectify the NASA chart. I appreciate you opening up the possibilities in this area. Thank you! Warm regards, Shayn SAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: > > Dear Group, > Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia (76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely seem to fit. > Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Mars-Rahu) > Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Rahu-Ketu) > First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun- Moon) > Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun- Rahu) > Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus- Mercury) > I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun- Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Dear Shayn, Wow-a very neat synchronicity. I was looking at 7:15am on Oct 1, 1958, I'll look at 8am, and also check out the article. You are right- a lot of work needs to be done. Mr. Angelino makes it look so easy- it is not. I included other Nasa events and links in another email. Thankyou for your helpful hints- Sincerely, Sheri PowersShayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: Dear Sheri,Isn't interesting that this afternoon I received a copy of the ISAR(International Society for Astrological Research) Journal with an article on NASA! Although, the author could not pinpoint the time the NASA Act was signed into law as you did. The complete article, written from a tropical perspective, is at http://www.valkyrieastrology.com/Articles/NASA Accidents/Astrological Influences and NASA Accidents.htmI won't comment on the author's premise for the accidents because it does not relate to SA.I did look at the two charts (for the signing of the Act and the first day of operation) and have a few observations. I decided to focus on man's first landing on the moon rather than disasters for a change of pace.The 7/29/58 NASA Act chart shows a Virgo ascendant which makes sense given the attention to detail needed to accomplish their missions. But there are too many weaknesses and afflictions that make no sense given the successes of NASA. For example, could the first man on the moon really take place during a weak and badly placed Mercury subperiod?The 10/1/58 NASA first day chart, set for midnight, fares a bit better with Moon as the chart ruler. How fitting! And the first man landed on the moon during a moon subperiod. Yet at the time of the landing malefic Jupiter was afflicting Mars, 10L and the Rahu/Ketu axis was afflicting the odd-numbered houses. This doesn't seem to fit.If we start that same chart for 8am when most workdays begin, then for the first moon landing we see a moon major period and moon subperiod. Interesting. The transits would show a strong benefic Mars conjunct the house of status. Certainly a feather in the cap of NASA, huh?More work needs to be done to rectify the NASA chart. I appreciate you opening up the possibilities in this area. Thank you!Warm regards,ShaynSAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote:>> Dear Group,> Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia(76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely seem to fit. > Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Mars-Rahu)> Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Rahu-Ketu)> First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun-Moon)> Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun-Rahu)> Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-Mercury)> I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun-Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers> > > > > > > Do You ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Dear Shayn, I am really liking the 8am time. It seems to fit the best out of all of the times I've tried. All of those planets in the 12th- perhaps something to do with the out-of-this world business of Nasa? SheriShayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: Dear Sheri,Isn't interesting that this afternoon I received a copy of the ISAR(International Society for Astrological Research) Journal with an article on NASA! Although, the author could not pinpoint the time the NASA Act was signed into law as you did. The complete article, written from a tropical perspective, is at http://www.valkyrieastrology.com/Articles/NASA Accidents/Astrological Influences and NASA Accidents.htmI won't comment on the author's premise for the accidents because it does not relate to SA.I did look at the two charts (for the signing of the Act and the first day of operation) and have a few observations. I decided to focus on man's first landing on the moon rather than disasters for a change of pace.The 7/29/58 NASA Act chart shows a Virgo ascendant which makes sense given the attention to detail needed to accomplish their missions. But there are too many weaknesses and afflictions that make no sense given the successes of NASA. For example, could the first man on the moon really take place during a weak and badly placed Mercury subperiod?The 10/1/58 NASA first day chart, set for midnight, fares a bit better with Moon as the chart ruler. How fitting! And the first man landed on the moon during a moon subperiod. Yet at the time of the landing malefic Jupiter was afflicting Mars, 10L and the Rahu/Ketu axis was afflicting the odd-numbered houses. This doesn't seem to fit.If we start that same chart for 8am when most workdays begin, then for the first moon landing we see a moon major period and moon subperiod. Interesting. The transits would show a strong benefic Mars conjunct the house of status. Certainly a feather in the cap of NASA, huh?More work needs to be done to rectify the NASA chart. I appreciate you opening up the possibilities in this area. Thank you!Warm regards,ShaynSAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote:>> Dear Group,> Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia(76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely seem to fit. > Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Mars-Rahu)> Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Rahu-Ketu)> First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun-Moon)> Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun-Rahu)> Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-Mercury)> I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun-Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers> > > > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Dear Shayn- I am now really interested in the July 29, 1958 chart for Nasa-don't remember why I discarded it in favor of the Oct 1 chart (maybe the lack of matching dasa sub periods). In the July 29 chart, the afflictions seem to match better for the negative events, and less afflictions and more positive aspects for the successful events. I got the around 11:30 am signing time from www.astrodatabank.com/NM/Columbia.htm , and I am looking at that time right now, (Virgo Asc.)but the dasa sub periods don't seem to match up. I read the western astrology article, although I don't have the software or the western astrology know how to understand all of it. I did note that she mentioned that all of the negative events that resulted in loss of life happened around the end of January, early February-thought I am not familiar with the Sun oppositions importance. However, in S.A., if the Sun is a FMP for this chart, he was in Capricorn for all three events, afflicting his natal position in Cancer in two of the negative events, and conjunct natal Moon in Capricorn in the other event. The article author advocated a time of 5:30 pm, and when I ran it I got a Sagittarius ascendant like she did (perhaps she uses the sidereal zodiac), which I will check also. If you have time and have an opinion or comments on the two dates, I would like to hear it. That goes for anyone on the list. Sincerely, Sheri PowersShayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: Dear Sheri,Isn't interesting that this afternoon I received a copy of the ISAR(International Society for Astrological Research) Journal with an article on NASA! Although, the author could not pinpoint the time the NASA Act was signed into law as you did. The complete article, written from a tropical perspective, is at http://www.valkyrieastrology.com/Articles/NASA Accidents/Astrological Influences and NASA Accidents.htmI won't comment on the author's premise for the accidents because it does not relate to SA.I did look at the two charts (for the signing of the Act and the first day of operation) and have a few observations. I decided to focus on man's first landing on the moon rather than disasters for a change of pace.The 7/29/58 NASA Act chart shows a Virgo ascendant which makes sense given the attention to detail needed to accomplish their missions. But there are too many weaknesses and afflictions that make no sense given the successes of NASA. For example, could the first man on the moon really take place during a weak and badly placed Mercury subperiod?The 10/1/58 NASA first day chart, set for midnight, fares a bit better with Moon as the chart ruler. How fitting! And the first man landed on the moon during a moon subperiod. Yet at the time of the landing malefic Jupiter was afflicting Mars, 10L and the Rahu/Ketu axis was afflicting the odd-numbered houses. This doesn't seem to fit.If we start that same chart for 8am when most workdays begin, then for the first moon landing we see a moon major period and moon subperiod. Interesting. The transits would show a strong benefic Mars conjunct the house of status. Certainly a feather in the cap of NASA, huh?More work needs to be done to rectify the NASA chart. I appreciate you opening up the possibilities in this area. Thank you!Warm regards,ShaynSAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote:>> Dear Group,> Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia(76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely seem to fit. > Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Mars-Rahu)> Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Rahu-Ketu)> First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun-Moon)> Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun-Rahu)> Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-Mercury)> I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun-Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers> > > > > > > Do You ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 correction to post below- when I ran July 29, 1958 at 5:30pm and corrected the birthplace to Washington DC, I got Scorpio Asc.Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: Dear Shayn- I am now really interested in the July 29, 1958 chart for Nasa-don't remember why I discarded it in favor of the Oct 1 chart (maybe the lack of matching dasa sub periods). In the July 29 chart, the afflictions seem to match better for the negative events, and less afflictions and more positive aspects for the successful events. I got the around 11:30 am signing time from www.astrodatabank.com/NM/Columbia.htm , and I am looking at that time right now, (Virgo Asc.)but the dasa sub periods don't seem to match up. I read the western astrology article, although I don't have the software or the western astrology know how to understand all of it. I did note that she mentioned that all of the negative events that resulted in loss of life happened around the end of January, early February-thought I am not familiar with the Sun oppositions importance. However, in S.A., if the Sun is a FMP for this chart, he was in Capricorn for all three events, afflicting his natal position in Cancer in two of the negative events, and conjunct natal Moon in Capricorn in the other event. The article author advocated a time of 5:30 pm, and when I ran it I got a Sagittarius ascendant like she did (perhaps she uses the sidereal zodiac), which I will check also. If you have time and have an opinion or comments on the two dates, I would like to hear it. That goes for anyone on the list. Sincerely, Sheri PowersShayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: Dear Sheri,Isn't interesting that this afternoon I received a copy of the ISAR(International Society for Astrological Research) Journal with an article on NASA! Although, the author could not pinpoint the time the NASA Act was signed into law as you did. The complete article, written from a tropical perspective, is at http://www.valkyrieastrology.com/Articles/NASA Accidents/Astrological Influences and NASA Accidents.htmI won't comment on the author's premise for the accidents because it does not relate to SA.I did look at the two charts (for the signing of the Act and the first day of operation) and have a few observations. I decided to focus on man's first landing on the moon rather than disasters for a change of pace.The 7/29/58 NASA Act chart shows a Virgo ascendant which makes sense given the attention to detail needed to accomplish their missions. But there are too many weaknesses and afflictions that make no sense given the successes of NASA. For example, could the first man on the moon really take place during a weak and badly placed Mercury subperiod?The 10/1/58 NASA first day chart, set for midnight, fares a bit better with Moon as the chart ruler. How fitting! And the first man landed on the moon during a moon subperiod. Yet at the time of the landing malefic Jupiter was afflicting Mars, 10L and the Rahu/Ketu axis was afflicting the odd-numbered houses. This doesn't seem to fit.If we start that same chart for 8am when most workdays begin, then for the first moon landing we see a moon major period and moon subperiod. Interesting. The transits would show a strong benefic Mars conjunct the house of status. Certainly a feather in the cap of NASA, huh?More work needs to be done to rectify the NASA chart. I appreciate you opening up the possibilities in this area. Thank you!Warm regards,ShaynSAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote:>> Dear Group,> Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia(76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely seem to fit. > Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Mars-Rahu)> Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Rahu-Ketu)> First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun-Moon)> Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun-Rahu)> Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-Mercury)> I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun-Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers> > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Dear Shayn, First I want to apologize to you for asking for your opinion on the two charts when you had already given a very succinct opinion in your earlier email. Sometimes my mind jumps around when I get excited about something and I forget things- sorry, I am working on that tendency of mine. I am rejecting the July 29th, 1958(Washington DC) chart in favor of the Oct 1, 1958 (Hampton, VA)and believe your time of 8:00 am is the best time. The likely times on July 29 to try were 11:30am, 5:30 pm and 4:30pm. The 11:30 Virgo chart was weak as stated by you. I looked at the successful 1st shuttle launch (April 12, 1981-7;00am Cape Canaveral, Fla) which occurred in Ra/Ra, and with transit afflictions this launch looked worse than Columbia (Ju-Mer) and the Apollo 1 fire (Mo-Ju). Same results with the 5:30 and 4:30pm times. I initially liked the Oct 1, 1958 chart- Cancer rising (00:00). But there were the afflictions mentioned by you on the date of the first moonwalk. In addition the 1st successful shuttle launch occurred in Mo-Mer, and the Apollo 1 fire occurred in Ve-Mer, with the positive event more afflicted than the negative event. Also, when I added two more positive events, the Apollo 14 and 15 flights, I found these occurred during the negative sub periods of Su-Jup, making this appear more negative than the negative events. I was intrigued by a Virgo ascendant for this chart, but the only time that looked likely was 7:15am. Though the negative/positive sub period match up with events, the 1st successful shuttle (Mar-Jup-Ke), because of more functional malefics looked very afflicted. With the 8:00 am time (libra) the sub period is stronger (Ma-Sat-Sat) and though transit and natal Mercury are afflicting transit Saturn and Jupiter, the afflictions are fewer than the Virgo chart. The other dasas and sub periods for the Libra chart match well, especially the Apollo 1 fire (Sun-Merc-Mars). The successful flights of Apollo 14 and 15 occurred in Moon-Rahu, but Rahu-Ketu were relatively unafflicting compared to the other negative events. I am still intrigued by the western astrologers mention of the time of year of the 3 negative events-late January-early February compared with all of the other successful launches at other time of the year, which should have something to do with the Sun's and/or Mercury's position. There are other things to try-like different birth places ( I got Hampton, Va from the astrodatabank article) and I would like to do a chart for the birth of the Kennedy Space Center. Anyway- Thanks for all of your help, and I hope you have a nice day. Sincerely, Sheri PowersSheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: correction to post below- when I ran July 29, 1958 at 5:30pm and corrected the birthplace to Washington DC, I got Scorpio Asc.Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: Dear Shayn- I am now really interested in the July 29, 1958 chart for Nasa-don't remember why I discarded it in favor of the Oct 1 chart (maybe the lack of matching dasa sub periods). In the July 29 chart, the afflictions seem to match better for the negative events, and less afflictions and more positive aspects for the successful events. I got the around 11:30 am signing time from www.astrodatabank.com/NM/Columbia.htm , and I am looking at that time right now, (Virgo Asc.)but the dasa sub periods don't seem to match up. I read the western astrology article, although I don't have the software or the western astrology know how to understand all of it. I did note that she mentioned that all of the negative events that resulted in loss of life happened around the end of January, early February-thought I am not familiar with the Sun oppositions importance. However, in S.A., if the Sun is a FMP for this chart, he was in Capricorn for all three events, afflicting his natal position in Cancer in two of the negative events, and conjunct natal Moon in Capricorn in the other event. The article author advocated a time of 5:30 pm, and when I ran it I got a Sagittarius ascendant like she did (perhaps she uses the sidereal zodiac), which I will check also. If you have time and have an opinion or comments on the two dates, I would like to hear it. That goes for anyone on the list. Sincerely, Sheri PowersShayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: Dear Sheri,Isn't interesting that this afternoon I received a copy of the ISAR(International Society for Astrological Research) Journal with an article on NASA! Although, the author could not pinpoint the time the NASA Act was signed into law as you did. The complete article, written from a tropical perspective, is at http://www.valkyrieastrology.com/Articles/NASA Accidents/Astrological Influences and NASA Accidents.htmI won't comment on the author's premise for the accidents because it does not relate to SA.I did look at the two charts (for the signing of the Act and the first day of operation) and have a few observations. I decided to focus on man's first landing on the moon rather than disasters for a change of pace.The 7/29/58 NASA Act chart shows a Virgo ascendant which makes sense given the attention to detail needed to accomplish their missions. But there are too many weaknesses and afflictions that make no sense given the successes of NASA. For example, could the first man on the moon really take place during a weak and badly placed Mercury subperiod?The 10/1/58 NASA first day chart, set for midnight, fares a bit better with Moon as the chart ruler. How fitting! And the first man landed on the moon during a moon subperiod. Yet at the time of the landing malefic Jupiter was afflicting Mars, 10L and the Rahu/Ketu axis was afflicting the odd-numbered houses. This doesn't seem to fit.If we start that same chart for 8am when most workdays begin, then for the first moon landing we see a moon major period and moon subperiod. Interesting. The transits would show a strong benefic Mars conjunct the house of status. Certainly a feather in the cap of NASA, huh?More work needs to be done to rectify the NASA chart. I appreciate you opening up the possibilities in this area. Thank you!Warm regards,ShaynSAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote:>> Dear Group,> Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia(76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely seem to fit. > Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Mars-Rahu)> Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla (Rahu-Ketu)> First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun-Moon)> Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun-Rahu)> Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-Mercury)> I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun-Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers> > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Hi Sheri, No worries about the enthusiasm. This is great! I am printing this off now so that I can digest it further over the lunch hour along with my sandwich. I hope to respond later this evening or early tomorrow. Thanks for digging in on this! Warm regards, Shayn SAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: > > Dear Shayn, First I want to apologize to you for asking for your opinion on the two charts when you had already given a very succinct opinion in your earlier email. Sometimes my mind jumps around when I get excited about something and I forget things- sorry, I am working on that tendency of mine. I am rejecting the July 29th, 1958 (Washington DC) chart in favor of the Oct 1, 1958 (Hampton, VA)and believe your time of 8:00 am is the best time. The likely times on July 29 to try were 11:30am, 5:30 pm and 4:30pm. The 11:30 Virgo chart was weak as stated by you. I looked at the successful 1st shuttle launch (April 12, 1981-7;00am Cape Canaveral, Fla) which occurred in Ra/Ra, and with transit afflictions this launch looked worse than Columbia (Ju-Mer) and the Apollo 1 fire (Mo-Ju). Same results with the 5:30 and 4:30pm times. I initially liked the Oct 1, 1958 chart- Cancer rising (00:00). But there were the afflictions mentioned by you on the date of the first moonwalk. > In addition the 1st successful shuttle launch occurred in Mo- Mer, and the Apollo 1 fire occurred in Ve-Mer, with the positive event more afflicted than the negative event. Also, when I added two more positive events, the Apollo 14 and 15 flights, I found these occurred during the negative sub periods of Su-Jup, making this appear more negative than the negative events. I was intrigued by a Virgo ascendant for this chart, but the only time that looked likely was 7:15am. Though the negative/positive sub period match up with events, the 1st successful shuttle (Mar-Jup-Ke), because of more functional malefics looked very afflicted. With the 8:00 am time (libra) the sub period is stronger (Ma-Sat-Sat) and though transit and natal Mercury are afflicting transit Saturn and Jupiter, the afflictions are fewer than the Virgo chart. The other dasas and sub periods for the Libra chart match well, especially the Apollo 1 fire (Sun-Merc-Mars). The successful flights of Apollo > 14 and 15 occurred in Moon-Rahu, but Rahu-Ketu were relatively unafflicting compared to the other negative events. I am still intrigued by the western astrologers mention of the time of year of the 3 negative events-late January-early February compared with all of the other successful launches at other time of the year, which should have something to do with the Sun's and/or Mercury's position. There are other things to try-like different birth places ( I got Hampton, Va from the astrodatabank article) and I would like to do a chart for the birth of the Kennedy Space Center. Anyway- Thanks for all of your help, and I hope you have a nice day. Sincerely, Sheri Powers > > Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: > correction to post below- when I ran July 29, 1958 at 5:30pm and corrected the birthplace to Washington DC, I got Scorpio Asc. > > Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: Dear Shayn- I am now really interested in the July 29, 1958 chart for Nasa-don't remember why I discarded it in favor of the Oct 1 chart (maybe the lack of matching dasa sub periods). In the July 29 chart, the afflictions seem to match better for the negative events, and less afflictions and more positive aspects for the successful events. I got the around 11:30 am signing time from www.astrodatabank.com/NM/Columbia.htm , and I am looking at that time right now, (Virgo Asc.)but the dasa sub periods don't seem to match up. I read the western astrology article, although I don't have the software or the western astrology know how to understand all of it. I did note that she mentioned that all of the negative events that resulted in loss of life happened around the end of January, early February-thought I am not familiar with the Sun oppositions importance. However, in S.A., if the Sun is a FMP for this chart, he was in > Capricorn for all three events, afflicting his natal position in Cancer in two of the negative events, and conjunct natal Moon in Capricorn in the other event. The article author advocated a time of 5:30 pm, and when I ran it I got a Sagittarius ascendant like she did (perhaps she uses the sidereal zodiac), which I will check also. If you have time and have an opinion or comments on the two dates, I would like to hear it. That goes for anyone on the list. Sincerely, Sheri Powers > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: Dear Sheri, > Isn't interesting that this afternoon I received a copy of the ISAR > (International Society for Astrological Research) Journal with an > article on NASA! Although, the author could not pinpoint the time the > NASA Act was signed into law as you did. The complete article, > written from a tropical perspective, is at > > http://www.valkyrieastrology.com/Articles/NASA Accidents/Astrological > Influences and NASA Accidents.htm > > I won't comment on the author's premise for the accidents because it > does not relate to SA. > > I did look at the two charts (for the signing of the Act and the > first day of operation) and have a few observations. I decided to > focus on man's first landing on the moon rather than disasters for a > change of pace. > > The 7/29/58 NASA Act chart shows a Virgo ascendant which makes sense > given the attention to detail needed to accomplish their missions. > But there are too many weaknesses and afflictions that make no sense > given the successes of NASA. For example, could the first man on the > moon really take place during a weak and badly placed Mercury > subperiod? > > The 10/1/58 NASA first day chart, set for midnight, fares a bit > better with Moon as the chart ruler. How fitting! And the first man > landed on the moon during a moon subperiod. Yet at the time of the > landing malefic Jupiter was afflicting Mars, 10L and the Rahu/Ketu > axis was afflicting the odd-numbered houses. This doesn't seem to fit. > > If we start that same chart for 8am when most workdays begin, then > for the first moon landing we see a moon major period and moon > subperiod. Interesting. The transits would show a strong benefic Mars > conjunct the house of status. Certainly a feather in the cap of NASA, > huh? > > More work needs to be done to rectify the NASA chart. I appreciate > you opening up the possibilities in this area. > > Thank you! > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > SAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind > words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct > analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao > and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa > chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at > 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, > 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia > (76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is > Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I > apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied > some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share > the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the > transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely > seem to fit. > > Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla > (Mars-Rahu) > > Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla > (Rahu-Ketu) > > First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun- > Moon) > > Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun- > Rahu) > > Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus- > Mercury) > > I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in > the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some > of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a > FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 > explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun- > Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 > Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had > transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you > look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are > afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal > Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe > return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Hi Sheri and List, The planets hold the same fascination for both astrologers and NASA although we approach the study of these celestial bodies differently. I'm afraid I can't offer any further analysis of a NASA chart at this time, but I will toss out some musings. The hypothesis that NASA space problems occur late January and early February because of transiting Sun's opposition to its natal position in the NASA Act chart (7/29/58) is groundless (please excuse the pun). For example, there were other successful flights launched that time of year such as Discovery on 1/24/85 and 1/22/92 and Endeavour on 1/22/98. Even if Sun was malefic, it would take more than an opposition aspect to destroy a mission. As for the Columbia disaster, by 2/1/03 the Sun had moved out of five degree range of its natal position anyway (if looking at the above chart). I happen to believe that there is more than subtle correlation between mission names and key chart planets. Projects Mercury (1961- 63) and Gemini (1965-66) may have taken place during the dasa of Mercury, for example. Or Mercury would have to figure in prominently in the NASA chart. This may not be an empirical observation but it would be fun to investigate. Other factors to consider could include President Kennedy's bold vision (11th house)on May 25, 1961 of landing a man on the moon. Or the technological spinoffs of the space program that benefit us all materially (4th house). And what about the competition early in the program that spurred us on against the Soviet Union (3rd house or Mars)? I'm afraid rectifying a NASA chart is too big of a project for me to tackle at this time, but I'm sure others may be up to the task. Sheri, good luck in your continuing research. I look forward to any more observations! Warm regards, Shayn SAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: > > Dear Shayn, First I want to apologize to you for asking for your opinion on the two charts when you had already given a very succinct opinion in your earlier email. Sometimes my mind jumps around when I get excited about something and I forget things- sorry, I am working on that tendency of mine. I am rejecting the July 29th, 1958 (Washington DC) chart in favor of the Oct 1, 1958 (Hampton, VA)and believe your time of 8:00 am is the best time. The likely times on July 29 to try were 11:30am, 5:30 pm and 4:30pm. The 11:30 Virgo chart was weak as stated by you. I looked at the successful 1st shuttle launch (April 12, 1981-7;00am Cape Canaveral, Fla) which occurred in Ra/Ra, and with transit afflictions this launch looked worse than Columbia (Ju-Mer) and the Apollo 1 fire (Mo-Ju). Same results with the 5:30 and 4:30pm times. I initially liked the Oct 1, 1958 chart- Cancer rising (00:00). But there were the afflictions mentioned by you on the date of the first moonwalk. > In addition the 1st successful shuttle launch occurred in Mo-Mer, and the Apollo 1 fire occurred in Ve-Mer, with the positive event more afflicted than the negative event. Also, when I added two more positive events, the Apollo 14 and 15 flights, I found these occurred during the negative sub periods of Su-Jup, making this appear more negative than the negative events. I was intrigued by a Virgo ascendant for this chart, but the only time that looked likely was 7:15am. Though the negative/positive sub period match up with events, the 1st successful shuttle (Mar-Jup-Ke), because of more functional malefics looked very afflicted. With the 8:00 am time (libra) the sub period is stronger (Ma-Sat-Sat) and though transit and natal Mercury are afflicting transit Saturn and Jupiter, the afflictions are fewer than the Virgo chart. The other dasas and sub periods for the Libra chart match well, especially the Apollo 1 fire (Sun-Merc-Mars). The successful flights of Apollo > 14 and 15 occurred in Moon-Rahu, but Rahu-Ketu were relatively unafflicting compared to the other negative events. I am still intrigued by the western astrologers mention of the time of year of the 3 negative events-late January-early February compared with all of the other successful launches at other time of the year, which should have something to do with the Sun's and/or Mercury's position. There are other things to try-like different birth places ( I got Hampton, Va from the astrodatabank article) and I would like to do a chart for the birth of the Kennedy Space Center. Anyway- Thanks for all of your help, and I hope you have a nice day. Sincerely, Sheri Powers > > Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: > correction to post below- when I ran July 29, 1958 at 5:30pm and corrected the birthplace to Washington DC, I got Scorpio Asc. > > Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: Dear Shayn- I am now really interested in the July 29, 1958 chart for Nasa-don't remember why I discarded it in favor of the Oct 1 chart (maybe the lack of matching dasa sub periods). In the July 29 chart, the afflictions seem to match better for the negative events, and less afflictions and more positive aspects for the successful events. I got the around 11:30 am signing time from www.astrodatabank.com/NM/Columbia.htm , and I am looking at that time right now, (Virgo Asc.)but the dasa sub periods don't seem to match up. I read the western astrology article, although I don't have the software or the western astrology know how to understand all of it. I did note that she mentioned that all of the negative events that resulted in loss of life happened around the end of January, early February-thought I am not familiar with the Sun oppositions importance. However, in S.A., if the Sun is a FMP for this chart, he was in > Capricorn for all three events, afflicting his natal position in Cancer in two of the negative events, and conjunct natal Moon in Capricorn in the other event. The article author advocated a time of 5:30 pm, and when I ran it I got a Sagittarius ascendant like she did (perhaps she uses the sidereal zodiac), which I will check also. If you have time and have an opinion or comments on the two dates, I would like to hear it. That goes for anyone on the list. Sincerely, Sheri Powers > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: Dear Sheri, > Isn't interesting that this afternoon I received a copy of the ISAR > (International Society for Astrological Research) Journal with an > article on NASA! Although, the author could not pinpoint the time the > NASA Act was signed into law as you did. The complete article, > written from a tropical perspective, is at > > http://www.valkyrieastrology.com/Articles/NASA Accidents/Astrological > Influences and NASA Accidents.htm > > I won't comment on the author's premise for the accidents because it > does not relate to SA. > > I did look at the two charts (for the signing of the Act and the > first day of operation) and have a few observations. I decided to > focus on man's first landing on the moon rather than disasters for a > change of pace. > > The 7/29/58 NASA Act chart shows a Virgo ascendant which makes sense > given the attention to detail needed to accomplish their missions. > But there are too many weaknesses and afflictions that make no sense > given the successes of NASA. For example, could the first man on the > moon really take place during a weak and badly placed Mercury > subperiod? > > The 10/1/58 NASA first day chart, set for midnight, fares a bit > better with Moon as the chart ruler. How fitting! And the first man > landed on the moon during a moon subperiod. Yet at the time of the > landing malefic Jupiter was afflicting Mars, 10L and the Rahu/Ketu > axis was afflicting the odd-numbered houses. This doesn't seem to fit. > > If we start that same chart for 8am when most workdays begin, then > for the first moon landing we see a moon major period and moon > subperiod. Interesting. The transits would show a strong benefic Mars > conjunct the house of status. Certainly a feather in the cap of NASA, > huh? > > More work needs to be done to rectify the NASA chart. I appreciate > you opening up the possibilities in this area. > > Thank you! > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > SAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind > words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct > analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao > and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa > chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at > 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, > 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia > (76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is > Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I > apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied > some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share > the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the > transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely > seem to fit. > > Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla > (Mars-Rahu) > > Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla > (Rahu-Ketu) > > First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun- > Moon) > > Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun- > Rahu) > > Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus- > Mercury) > > I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in > the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some > of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a > FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 > explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun- > Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 > Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had > transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you > look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are > afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal > Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe > return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Dear Shayn and list, Thankyou, Shayn for the email. I appreciate your evidence that disproves the Sun's position hypothesis, one less thing to worry about. I really enjoyed reading your musings and like your theory about mission names and planetary periods. In the 8:00am Oct 1, 1958 chart, The Apollo moon missions all take place during moon dasa, and the Mercury and Gemini mostly occurred during the Sun dasa, which could be fitting, but the chart doesn't have the strong 4th and 3rd house you would expect a Nasa chart to have, like you mentioned. It could take a long time to find the right chart- however it is fun digging for info, and taking a stab at it. Now for something a little different- I was suprised at the muharta chart for the 1st successful shuttle launch- April 12, 1981-7:00am (Cape Canaveral, Fla) I got Aries rising, most planets weak and/or badly placed, several afflictions- dasa-Saturn/Moon with Saturn badly placed and afflicted and the Moon well placed yet afflicted. Maybe the positive(yet afflicted) Moon sub period insured the success of the launch. Since it was the inaugural launch, maybe the muharta previewed upcoming challenges in the program? Just wondering- Hope everyone has a nice weekend- Sheri Powers Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: Hi Sheri and List,The planets hold the same fascination for both astrologers and NASA although we approach the study of these celestial bodies differently. I'm afraid I can't offer any further analysis of a NASA chart at this time, but I will toss out some musings.The hypothesis that NASA space problems occur late January and early February because of transiting Sun's opposition to its natal position in the NASA Act chart (7/29/58) is groundless (please excuse the pun). For example, there were other successful flights launched that time of year such as Discovery on 1/24/85 and 1/22/92 and Endeavour on 1/22/98. Even if Sun was malefic, it would take more than an opposition aspect to destroy a mission. As for the Columbia disaster, by 2/1/03 the Sun had moved out of five degree range of its natal position anyway (if looking at the above chart).I happen to believe that there is more than subtle correlation between mission names and key chart planets. Projects Mercury (1961-63) and Gemini (1965-66) may have taken place during the dasa of Mercury, for example. Or Mercury would have to figure in prominently in the NASA chart. This may not be an empirical observation but it would be fun to investigate.Other factors to consider could include President Kennedy's bold vision (11th house)on May 25, 1961 of landing a man on the moon. Or the technological spinoffs of the space program that benefit us all materially (4th house). And what about the competition early in the program that spurred us on against the Soviet Union (3rd house or Mars)?I'm afraid rectifying a NASA chart is too big of a project for me to tackle at this time, but I'm sure others may be up to the task. Sheri, good luck in your continuing research. I look forward to any more observations!Warm regards,ShaynSAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote:>> Dear Shayn, First I want to apologize to you for asking for your opinion on the two charts when you had already given a very succinct opinion in your earlier email. Sometimes my mind jumps around when I get excited about something and I forget things- sorry, I am working on that tendency of mine. I am rejecting the July 29th, 1958(Washington DC) chart in favor of the Oct 1, 1958 (Hampton, VA)and believe your time of 8:00 am is the best time. The likely times on July 29 to try were 11:30am, 5:30 pm and 4:30pm. The 11:30 Virgo chart was weak as stated by you. I looked at the successful 1st shuttle launch (April 12, 1981-7;00am Cape Canaveral, Fla) which occurred in Ra/Ra, and with transit afflictions this launch looked worse than Columbia (Ju-Mer) and the Apollo 1 fire (Mo-Ju). Same results with the 5:30 and 4:30pm times. I initially liked the Oct 1, 1958 chart- Cancer rising (00:00). But there were the afflictions mentioned by you on the date of the first moonwalk. > In addition the 1st successful shuttle launch occurred in Mo-Mer, and the Apollo 1 fire occurred in Ve-Mer, with the positive event more afflicted than the negative event. Also, when I added two more positive events, the Apollo 14 and 15 flights, I found these occurred during the negative sub periods of Su-Jup, making this appear more negative than the negative events. I was intrigued by a Virgo ascendant for this chart, but the only time that looked likely was 7:15am. Though the negative/positive sub period match up with events, the 1st successful shuttle (Mar-Jup-Ke), because of more functional malefics looked very afflicted. With the 8:00 am time (libra) the sub period is stronger (Ma-Sat-Sat) and though transit and natal Mercury are afflicting transit Saturn and Jupiter, the afflictions are fewer than the Virgo chart. The other dasas and sub periods for the Libra chart match well, especially the Apollo 1 fire (Sun-Merc-Mars). The successful flights of Apollo> 14 and 15 occurred in Moon-Rahu, but Rahu-Ketu were relatively unafflicting compared to the other negative events. I am still intrigued by the western astrologers mention of the time of year of the 3 negative events-late January-early February compared with all of the other successful launches at other time of the year, which should have something to do with the Sun's and/or Mercury's position. There are other things to try-like different birth places ( I got Hampton, Va from the astrodatabank article) and I would like to do a chart for the birth of the Kennedy Space Center. Anyway- Thanks for all of your help, and I hope you have a nice day. Sincerely, Sheri Powers> > Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote:> correction to post below- when I ran July 29, 1958 at 5:30pm and corrected the birthplace to Washington DC, I got Scorpio Asc.> > Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: Dear Shayn- I am now really interested in the July 29, 1958 chart for Nasa-don't remember why I discarded it in favor of the Oct 1 chart (maybe the lack of matching dasa sub periods). In the July 29 chart, the afflictions seem to match better for the negative events, and less afflictions and more positive aspects for the successful events. I got the around 11:30 am signing time from www.astrodatabank.com/NM/Columbia.htm , and I am looking at that time right now, (Virgo Asc.)but the dasa sub periods don't seem to match up. I read the western astrology article, although I don't have the software or the western astrology know how to understand all of it. I did note that she mentioned that all of the negative events that resulted in loss of life happened around the end of January, early February-thought I am not familiar with the Sun oppositions importance. However, in S.A., if the Sun is a FMP for this chart, he was in> Capricorn for all three events, afflicting his natal position in Cancer in two of the negative events, and conjunct natal Moon in Capricorn in the other event. The article author advocated a time of 5:30 pm, and when I ran it I got a Sagittarius ascendant like she did (perhaps she uses the sidereal zodiac), which I will check also. If you have time and have an opinion or comments on the two dates, I would like to hear it. That goes for anyone on the list. Sincerely, Sheri Powers> > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: Dear Sheri,> Isn't interesting that this afternoon I received a copy of the ISAR> (International Society for Astrological Research) Journal with an > article on NASA! Although, the author could not pinpoint the time the > NASA Act was signed into law as you did. The complete article, > written from a tropical perspective, is at > > http://www.valkyrieastrology.com/Articles/NASA Accidents/Astrological > Influences and NASA Accidents.htm> > I won't comment on the author's premise for the accidents because it > does not relate to SA.> > I did look at the two charts (for the signing of the Act and the > first day of operation) and have a few observations. I decided to > focus on man's first landing on the moon rather than disasters for a > change of pace.> > The 7/29/58 NASA Act chart shows a Virgo ascendant which makes sense > given the attention to detail needed to accomplish their missions. > But there are too many weaknesses and afflictions that make no sense > given the successes of NASA. For example, could the first man on the > moon really take place during a weak and badly placed Mercury > subperiod?> > The 10/1/58 NASA first day chart, set for midnight, fares a bit > better with Moon as the chart ruler. How fitting! And the first man > landed on the moon during a moon subperiod. Yet at the time of the > landing malefic Jupiter was afflicting Mars, 10L and the Rahu/Ketu > axis was afflicting the odd-numbered houses. This doesn't seem to fit.> > If we start that same chart for 8am when most workdays begin, then > for the first moon landing we see a moon major period and moon > subperiod. Interesting. The transits would show a strong benefic Mars > conjunct the house of status. Certainly a feather in the cap of NASA, > huh?> > More work needs to be done to rectify the NASA chart. I appreciate > you opening up the possibilities in this area. > > Thank you!> > Warm regards,> Shayn> > SAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace@> wrote:> >> > Dear Group,> > Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind > words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct > analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. Rao > and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa > chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 at > 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, > 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, Virginia> (76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is > Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I > apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied > some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share > the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the > transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely > seem to fit. > > Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla > (Mars-Rahu)> > Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla > (Rahu-Ketu)> > First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun-> Moon)> > Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun-> Rahu)> > Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-> Mercury)> > I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in > the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some > of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is a > FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 > explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun-> Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 > Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had > transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you > look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there are > afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the natal > Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a safe > return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > > > > > > See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Hi Sheri, You are correct about all the weaknesses and afflictions in the April 12, 1981 Columbia chart. The mission did suffer from problems such as significant tile damage that, if the astronauts were aware of it at the time, they would have ejected and we would have lost our first shuttle. All in all, I think the Moon's strength helped that mission in its subperiod. So far, the current mission seems to be running smoothly although there is current concern about a slow leak in one of the hydraulic systems that could affect steering and braking. We'll see.. Thanks for the post! Warm regards, Shayn SAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: > > Dear Shayn and list, > > Thankyou, Shayn for the email. I appreciate your evidence that disproves the Sun's position hypothesis, one less thing to worry about. I really enjoyed reading your musings and like your theory about mission names and planetary periods. In the 8:00am Oct 1, 1958 chart, The Apollo moon missions all take place during moon dasa, and the Mercury and Gemini mostly occurred during the Sun dasa, which could be fitting, but the chart doesn't have the strong 4th and 3rd house you would expect a Nasa chart to have, like you mentioned. It could take a long time to find the right chart- however it is fun digging for info, and taking a stab at it. Now for something a little different- I was suprised at the muharta chart for the 1st successful shuttle launch- April 12, 1981-7:00am (Cape Canaveral, Fla) I got Aries rising, most planets weak and/or badly placed, several afflictions- dasa-Saturn/Moon with Saturn badly placed and afflicted and the Moon well placed yet afflicted. > Maybe the positive(yet afflicted) Moon sub period insured the success of the launch. Since it was the inaugural launch, maybe the muharta previewed upcoming challenges in the program? Just wondering- Hope everyone has a nice weekend- Sheri Powers > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: > Hi Sheri and List, > > The planets hold the same fascination for both astrologers and NASA > although we approach the study of these celestial bodies differently. > I'm afraid I can't offer any further analysis of a NASA chart at this > time, but I will toss out some musings. > > The hypothesis that NASA space problems occur late January and early > February because of transiting Sun's opposition to its natal position > in the NASA Act chart (7/29/58) is groundless (please excuse the > pun). For example, there were other successful flights launched that > time of year such as Discovery on 1/24/85 and 1/22/92 and Endeavour > on 1/22/98. Even if Sun was malefic, it would take more than an > opposition aspect to destroy a mission. As for the Columbia disaster, > by 2/1/03 the Sun had moved out of five degree range of its natal > position anyway (if looking at the above chart). > > I happen to believe that there is more than subtle correlation > between mission names and key chart planets. Projects Mercury (1961- > 63) and Gemini (1965-66) may have taken place during the dasa of > Mercury, for example. Or Mercury would have to figure in prominently > in the NASA chart. This may not be an empirical observation but it > would be fun to investigate. > > Other factors to consider could include President Kennedy's bold > vision (11th house)on May 25, 1961 of landing a man on the moon. Or > the technological spinoffs of the space program that benefit us all > materially (4th house). And what about the competition early in the > program that spurred us on against the Soviet Union (3rd house or > Mars)? > > I'm afraid rectifying a NASA chart is too big of a project for me to > tackle at this time, but I'm sure others may be up to the task. > Sheri, good luck in your continuing research. I look forward to any > more observations! > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > SAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shayn, First I want to apologize to you for asking for your > opinion on the two charts when you had already given a very succinct > opinion in your earlier email. Sometimes my mind jumps around when I > get excited about something and I forget things- sorry, I am working > on that tendency of mine. I am rejecting the July 29th, 1958 > (Washington DC) chart in favor of the Oct 1, 1958 (Hampton, VA)and > believe your time of 8:00 am is the best time. The likely times on > July 29 to try were 11:30am, 5:30 pm and 4:30pm. The 11:30 Virgo > chart was weak as stated by you. I looked at the successful 1st > shuttle launch (April 12, 1981-7;00am Cape Canaveral, Fla) which > occurred in Ra/Ra, and with transit afflictions this launch looked > worse than Columbia (Ju-Mer) and the Apollo 1 fire (Mo-Ju). Same > results with the 5:30 and 4:30pm times. I initially liked the Oct 1, > 1958 chart- Cancer rising (00:00). But there were the afflictions > mentioned by you on the date of the first moonwalk. > > In addition the 1st successful shuttle launch occurred in Mo-Mer, > and the Apollo 1 fire occurred in Ve-Mer, with the positive event > more afflicted than the negative event. Also, when I added two more > positive events, the Apollo 14 and 15 flights, I found these > occurred during the negative sub periods of Su-Jup, making this > appear more negative than the negative events. I was intrigued by a > Virgo ascendant for this chart, but the only time that looked likely > was 7:15am. Though the negative/positive sub period match up with > events, the 1st successful shuttle (Mar-Jup-Ke), because of more > functional malefics looked very afflicted. With the 8:00 am time > (libra) the sub period is stronger (Ma-Sat-Sat) and though transit > and natal Mercury are afflicting transit Saturn and Jupiter, the > afflictions are fewer than the Virgo chart. The other dasas and sub > periods for the Libra chart match well, especially the Apollo 1 fire > (Sun-Merc-Mars). The successful flights of Apollo > > 14 and 15 occurred in Moon-Rahu, but Rahu-Ketu were relatively > unafflicting compared to the other negative events. I am still > intrigued by the western astrologers mention of the time of year of > the 3 negative events-late January-early February compared with all > of the other successful launches at other time of the year, which > should have something to do with the Sun's and/or Mercury's > position. There are other things to try-like different birth places > ( I got Hampton, Va from the astrodatabank article) and I would like > to do a chart for the birth of the Kennedy Space Center. Anyway- > Thanks for all of your help, and I hope you have a nice day. > Sincerely, Sheri Powers > > > > Sheri Powers <mermaidslace@> wrote: > > correction to post below- when I ran July 29, 1958 at > 5:30pm and corrected the birthplace to Washington DC, I got Scorpio > Asc. > > > > Sheri Powers <mermaidslace@> wrote: Dear Shayn- I am now > really interested in the July 29, 1958 chart for Nasa-don't remember > why I discarded it in favor of the Oct 1 chart (maybe the lack of > matching dasa sub periods). In the July 29 chart, the afflictions > seem to match better for the negative events, and less afflictions > and more positive aspects for the successful events. I got the > around 11:30 am signing time from > www.astrodatabank.com/NM/Columbia.htm , and I am looking at that time > right now, (Virgo Asc.)but the dasa sub periods don't seem to match > up. I read the western astrology article, although I don't have the > software or the western astrology know how to understand all of it. > I did note that she mentioned that all of the negative events that > resulted in loss of life happened around the end of January, early > February-thought I am not familiar with the Sun oppositions > importance. However, in S.A., if the Sun is a FMP for this chart, he > was in > > Capricorn for all three events, afflicting his natal position in > Cancer in two of the negative events, and conjunct natal Moon in > Capricorn in the other event. The article author advocated a time of > 5:30 pm, and when I ran it I got a Sagittarius ascendant like she did > (perhaps she uses the sidereal zodiac), which I will check also. If > you have time and have an opinion or comments on the two dates, I > would like to hear it. That goes for anyone on the list. > Sincerely, Sheri Powers > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@> wrote: Dear Sheri, > > Isn't interesting that this afternoon I received a copy of the ISAR > > (International Society for Astrological Research) Journal with an > > article on NASA! Although, the author could not pinpoint the time > the > > NASA Act was signed into law as you did. The complete article, > > written from a tropical perspective, is at > > > > http://www.valkyrieastrology.com/Articles/NASA > Accidents/Astrological > > Influences and NASA Accidents.htm > > > > I won't comment on the author's premise for the accidents because > it > > does not relate to SA. > > > > I did look at the two charts (for the signing of the Act and the > > first day of operation) and have a few observations. I decided to > > focus on man's first landing on the moon rather than disasters for > a > > change of pace. > > > > The 7/29/58 NASA Act chart shows a Virgo ascendant which makes > sense > > given the attention to detail needed to accomplish their missions. > > But there are too many weaknesses and afflictions that make no > sense > > given the successes of NASA. For example, could the first man on > the > > moon really take place during a weak and badly placed Mercury > > subperiod? > > > > The 10/1/58 NASA first day chart, set for midnight, fares a bit > > better with Moon as the chart ruler. How fitting! And the first man > > landed on the moon during a moon subperiod. Yet at the time of the > > landing malefic Jupiter was afflicting Mars, 10L and the Rahu/Ketu > > axis was afflicting the odd-numbered houses. This doesn't seem to > fit. > > > > If we start that same chart for 8am when most workdays begin, then > > for the first moon landing we see a moon major period and moon > > subperiod. Interesting. The transits would show a strong benefic > Mars > > conjunct the house of status. Certainly a feather in the cap of > NASA, > > huh? > > > > More work needs to be done to rectify the NASA chart. I appreciate > > you opening up the possibilities in this area. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Warm regards, > > Shayn > > > > SAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind > > words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct > > analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. > Rao > > and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa > > chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 > at > > 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, > > 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, > Virginia > > (76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is > > Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I > > apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied > > some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share > > the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the > > transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely > > seem to fit. > > > Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla > > (Mars-Rahu) > > > Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla > > (Rahu-Ketu) > > > First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun- > > Moon) > > > Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun- > > Rahu) > > > Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus- > > Mercury) > > > I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in > > the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some > > of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is > a > > FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 > > explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun- > > Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 > > Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had > > transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you > > look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there > are > > afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the > natal > > Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a > safe > > return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US > (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Hi Shayn, Wow- I wasn't aware of the possibility of ejection and loss of the 1st shuttle. Thanks for the info, and for the update on the current mission- Sincerely, Sheri Powers, Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: Hi Sheri,You are correct about all the weaknesses and afflictions in the April 12, 1981 Columbia chart. The mission did suffer from problems such as significant tile damage that, if the astronauts were aware of it at the time, they would have ejected and we would have lost our first shuttle. All in all, I think the Moon's strength helped that mission in its subperiod. So far, the current mission seems to be running smoothly although there is current concern about a slow leak in one of the hydraulic systems that could affect steering and braking. We'll see..Thanks for the post!Warm regards,ShaynSAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote:>> Dear Shayn and list,> > Thankyou, Shayn for the email. I appreciate your evidence that disproves the Sun's position hypothesis, one less thing to worry about. I really enjoyed reading your musings and like your theory about mission names and planetary periods. In the 8:00am Oct 1, 1958 chart, The Apollo moon missions all take place during moon dasa, and the Mercury and Gemini mostly occurred during the Sun dasa, which could be fitting, but the chart doesn't have the strong 4th and 3rd house you would expect a Nasa chart to have, like you mentioned. It could take a long time to find the right chart- however it is fun digging for info, and taking a stab at it. Now for something a little different- I was suprised at the muharta chart for the 1st successful shuttle launch- April 12, 1981-7:00am (Cape Canaveral, Fla) I got Aries rising, most planets weak and/or badly placed, several afflictions- dasa-Saturn/Moon with Saturn badly placed and afflicted and the Moon well placed yet afflicted.> Maybe the positive(yet afflicted) Moon sub period insured the success of the launch. Since it was the inaugural launch, maybe the muharta previewed upcoming challenges in the program? Just wondering-Hope everyone has a nice weekend- Sheri Powers> Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote:> Hi Sheri and List,> > The planets hold the same fascination for both astrologers and NASA > although we approach the study of these celestial bodies differently. > I'm afraid I can't offer any further analysis of a NASA chart at this > time, but I will toss out some musings.> > The hypothesis that NASA space problems occur late January and early > February because of transiting Sun's opposition to its natal position > in the NASA Act chart (7/29/58) is groundless (please excuse the > pun). For example, there were other successful flights launched that > time of year such as Discovery on 1/24/85 and 1/22/92 and Endeavour > on 1/22/98. Even if Sun was malefic, it would take more than an > opposition aspect to destroy a mission. As for the Columbia disaster, > by 2/1/03 the Sun had moved out of five degree range of its natal > position anyway (if looking at the above chart).> > I happen to believe that there is more than subtle correlation > between mission names and key chart planets. Projects Mercury (1961-> 63) and Gemini (1965-66) may have taken place during the dasa of > Mercury, for example. Or Mercury would have to figure in prominently > in the NASA chart. This may not be an empirical observation but it > would be fun to investigate.> > Other factors to consider could include President Kennedy's bold > vision (11th house)on May 25, 1961 of landing a man on the moon. Or > the technological spinoffs of the space program that benefit us all > materially (4th house). And what about the competition early in the > program that spurred us on against the Soviet Union (3rd house or > Mars)?> > I'm afraid rectifying a NASA chart is too big of a project for me to > tackle at this time, but I'm sure others may be up to the task. > Sheri, good luck in your continuing research. I look forward to any > more observations!> > Warm regards,> Shayn> > SAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace@> wrote:> >> > Dear Shayn, First I want to apologize to you for asking for your > opinion on the two charts when you had already given a very succinct > opinion in your earlier email. Sometimes my mind jumps around when I > get excited about something and I forget things- sorry, I am working > on that tendency of mine. I am rejecting the July 29th, 1958> (Washington DC) chart in favor of the Oct 1, 1958 (Hampton, VA)and > believe your time of 8:00 am is the best time. The likely times on > July 29 to try were 11:30am, 5:30 pm and 4:30pm. The 11:30 Virgo > chart was weak as stated by you. I looked at the successful 1st > shuttle launch (April 12, 1981-7;00am Cape Canaveral, Fla) which > occurred in Ra/Ra, and with transit afflictions this launch looked > worse than Columbia (Ju-Mer) and the Apollo 1 fire (Mo-Ju). Same > results with the 5:30 and 4:30pm times. I initially liked the Oct 1, > 1958 chart- Cancer rising (00:00). But there were the afflictions > mentioned by you on the date of the first moonwalk. > > In addition the 1st successful shuttle launch occurred in Mo-Mer, > and the Apollo 1 fire occurred in Ve-Mer, with the positive event > more afflicted than the negative event. Also, when I added two more > positive events, the Apollo 14 and 15 flights, I found these > occurred during the negative sub periods of Su-Jup, making this > appear more negative than the negative events. I was intrigued by a > Virgo ascendant for this chart, but the only time that looked likely > was 7:15am. Though the negative/positive sub period match up with > events, the 1st successful shuttle (Mar-Jup-Ke), because of more > functional malefics looked very afflicted. With the 8:00 am time > (libra) the sub period is stronger (Ma-Sat-Sat) and though transit > and natal Mercury are afflicting transit Saturn and Jupiter, the > afflictions are fewer than the Virgo chart. The other dasas and sub > periods for the Libra chart match well, especially the Apollo 1 fire > (Sun-Merc-Mars). The successful flights of Apollo> > 14 and 15 occurred in Moon-Rahu, but Rahu-Ketu were relatively > unafflicting compared to the other negative events. I am still > intrigued by the western astrologers mention of the time of year of > the 3 negative events-late January-early February compared with all > of the other successful launches at other time of the year, which > should have something to do with the Sun's and/or Mercury's > position. There are other things to try-like different birth places > ( I got Hampton, Va from the astrodatabank article) and I would like > to do a chart for the birth of the Kennedy Space Center. Anyway- > Thanks for all of your help, and I hope you have a nice day. > Sincerely, Sheri Powers> > > > Sheri Powers <mermaidslace@> wrote:> > correction to post below- when I ran July 29, 1958 at > 5:30pm and corrected the birthplace to Washington DC, I got Scorpio > Asc.> > > > Sheri Powers <mermaidslace@> wrote: Dear Shayn- I am now > really interested in the July 29, 1958 chart for Nasa-don't remember > why I discarded it in favor of the Oct 1 chart (maybe the lack of > matching dasa sub periods). In the July 29 chart, the afflictions > seem to match better for the negative events, and less afflictions > and more positive aspects for the successful events. I got the > around 11:30 am signing time from > www.astrodatabank.com/NM/Columbia.htm , and I am looking at that time > right now, (Virgo Asc.)but the dasa sub periods don't seem to match > up. I read the western astrology article, although I don't have the > software or the western astrology know how to understand all of it. > I did note that she mentioned that all of the negative events that > resulted in loss of life happened around the end of January, early > February-thought I am not familiar with the Sun oppositions > importance. However, in S.A., if the Sun is a FMP for this chart, he > was in> > Capricorn for all three events, afflicting his natal position in > Cancer in two of the negative events, and conjunct natal Moon in > Capricorn in the other event. The article author advocated a time of > 5:30 pm, and when I ran it I got a Sagittarius ascendant like she did > (perhaps she uses the sidereal zodiac), which I will check also. If > you have time and have an opinion or comments on the two dates, I > would like to hear it. That goes for anyone on the list. > Sincerely, Sheri Powers> > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@> wrote: Dear Sheri,> > Isn't interesting that this afternoon I received a copy of the ISAR> > (International Society for Astrological Research) Journal with an > > article on NASA! Although, the author could not pinpoint the time > the > > NASA Act was signed into law as you did. The complete article, > > written from a tropical perspective, is at > > > > http://www.valkyrieastrology.com/Articles/NASA > Accidents/Astrological > > Influences and NASA Accidents.htm> > > > I won't comment on the author's premise for the accidents because > it > > does not relate to SA.> > > > I did look at the two charts (for the signing of the Act and the > > first day of operation) and have a few observations. I decided to > > focus on man's first landing on the moon rather than disasters for > a > > change of pace.> > > > The 7/29/58 NASA Act chart shows a Virgo ascendant which makes > sense > > given the attention to detail needed to accomplish their missions. > > But there are too many weaknesses and afflictions that make no > sense > > given the successes of NASA. For example, could the first man on > the > > moon really take place during a weak and badly placed Mercury > > subperiod?> > > > The 10/1/58 NASA first day chart, set for midnight, fares a bit > > better with Moon as the chart ruler. How fitting! And the first man > > landed on the moon during a moon subperiod. Yet at the time of the > > landing malefic Jupiter was afflicting Mars, 10L and the Rahu/Ketu > > axis was afflicting the odd-numbered houses. This doesn't seem to > fit.> > > > If we start that same chart for 8am when most workdays begin, then > > for the first moon landing we see a moon major period and moon > > subperiod. Interesting. The transits would show a strong benefic > Mars > > conjunct the house of status. Certainly a feather in the cap of > NASA, > > huh?> > > > More work needs to be done to rectify the NASA chart. I appreciate > > you opening up the possibilities in this area. > > > > Thank you!> > > > Warm regards,> > Shayn> > > > SAMVA , Sheri Powers <mermaidslace@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Group,> > > Thankyou to and Mr. Rao for your kind > > words earlier. I became interested in Nasa after the correct > > analysis in advance of the recent shuttle delay by Mr. Smith, Mr. > Rao > > and Mr. Hawthorne. I decided to do some research to create a Nasa > > chart. I found the Nasa bill was signed into law on July 29, 1958 > at > > 11:30 am in Washington. The new organization was to begin on Oct 1, > > 1958. I created a chart for Oct 1, 1958 at 00:00 in Hampton, > Virginia> > (76w20'44,37n01'47). I found this chart interesting because it is > > Cancer rising with the Moon unafflicted in the 10th house. I > > apologize that I am as yet unable to attach charts, but I studied > > some event dates in the chart that seem to fit and wanted to share > > the data for anyone who is interested. I won't detail all of the > > transit and natal afflictions but the dasa sub periods definitely > > seem to fit. > > > Challenger launch-Jan 28, 1986 11:38:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla > > (Mars-Rahu)> > > Columbia launch-Jan 16, 2003 10:39:00am Cape Canaveral, Fla > > (Rahu-Ketu)> > > First Man on Moon- July 21, 1969 02:56:00 Greenwich, England (Sun-> > Moon)> > > Apollo 13 explosion- April 13, 1970 13:13:00 Houston, Texas (Sun-> > Rahu)> > > Apollo 1 fire- Jan 27, 1967 18:31:00 Cape Canaveral, Fla (Venus-> > Mercury)> > > I was wondering why the Apollo 1 fire could have occurred in > > the benefic sub period of Mercury, but then I took a hint from some > > of Mr. Angelino's posts and looked at the varga charts. Mercury is > a > > FMP in D9, D6 and D8. Another interesting point was the Apollo 13 > > explosion(besides the fascinating date and time) was the dasa-Sun-> > Rahu and the fact that transit Sun was conjunct natal Ketu at 29:00 > > Pisces, and when the crew safely returned to earth, the Sun had > > transitted away from Ketu into it's exaltation sign, Aries. If you > > look at the chart for the current upcoming shuttle return, there > are > > afflictions, but the current period is Rahu-Sun, and though the > natal > > Sun is weakened by combusting it's depositor, I am hoping for a > safe > > return. Best to everyone- Sheri Powers> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US > (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out.> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. 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