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Dear C.

 

you are right.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

> Hello friends,

>

> The discussion of the likely chart for Tony Blair brought out again the

> importance of predictions for our work. We can all see that gifted

> minds can easily make a case for one ascendant over another, even with

> SA. When disagreement on the basis of analysis emerges, the debate can

> devolve into a dispute that causes only irritation and wastes list

> members time. What is really indisputable is an accurate prediction.

> However, one or few predictions are not enough. Repeat accurate

> predictions are needed to settle the matter of an authentic chart in a

> convincing manner. This is why list members are encouraged to step up

> to the plate and make predictions concerning charts of their choice for

> world leaders or nations. It is an excellent learning experience and

> makes the list members who participate much better astrologers. With SA

> we already have such a huge advantage in making accurate predictions.

> Let us not waste this opportunity.

>

> With best wishes for predictive success.

>

> C

>

>

>

>

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Hello friends,

 

The discussion of the likely chart for Tony Blair brought out again the

importance of predictions for our work. We can all see that gifted

minds can easily make a case for one ascendant over another, even with

SA. When disagreement on the basis of analysis emerges, the debate can

devolve into a dispute that causes only irritation and wastes list

members time. What is really indisputable is an accurate prediction.

However, one or few predictions are not enough. Repeat accurate

predictions are needed to settle the matter of an authentic chart in a

convincing manner. This is why list members are encouraged to step up

to the plate and make predictions concerning charts of their choice for

world leaders or nations. It is an excellent learning experience and

makes the list members who participate much better astrologers. With SA

we already have such a huge advantage in making accurate predictions.

Let us not waste this opportunity.

 

With best wishes for predictive success.

 

C

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Dear C,I really don't understand why you're interpreting the exchanges over Tony Blair's chart to be either a debate or at worst a dispute.The right word is discussion.Nothing that's been brought out in our discussions is a waste of time for the other members of the list, as is evidenced by the feedback given to us by Mr. Iver. An accurate prediction can be made for different charts at different times. These may happen as a result of completely random coincidences. For instance, the triple transit outlook for the odd sign lagnas will almost always be superior to those of the even sign lagnas. It is easier to justify positive events happening members of the odd sign lagnas using triple transits.Open and honest discussion must be part of any intellectual process. In the case of Tony Blair, if Aries consistently gives greater accuracy than Taurus, then great. All is well.Best Wishes,Aruncosmologer

<cosmologer wrote: Hello friends, The discussion of the likely chart for Tony Blair brought out again the importance of predictions for our work. We can all see that gifted minds can easily make a case for one ascendant over another, even with SA. When disagreement on the basis of analysis emerges, the debate can devolve into a dispute that causes only irritation and wastes list members time. What is really indisputable is an accurate prediction. However, one or few predictions are not enough.

Repeat accurate predictions are needed to settle the matter of an authentic chart in a convincing manner. This is why list members are encouraged to step up to the plate and make predictions concerning charts of their choice for world leaders or nations. It is an excellent learning experience and makes the list members who participate much better astrologers. With SA we already have such a huge advantage in making accurate predictions. Let us not waste this opportunity. With best wishes for predictive success. C

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Dear Arun,

 

I have been around lists for a long time and can quickly detect what

pattern a given discussion is likely to take. Many people make the

mistake to get overly involved with an analytical point of view

sometimes to the detriment of list harmony. That´s why I said the

discussion CAN easily devolve into a fruitless debate.

 

Importantly, however, that wasn´t my main point at all. My main point

was on the need to let the predictions do the talking. I still hope

to see more prediction from the list members, including you. It is

the most effective way to resolve analytical differences and does so

in an enjoyable and educational manner.

 

Best wishes,

 

C

 

 

 

SAMVA , Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote:

>

> Dear C,

>

> I really don't understand why you're interpreting the exchanges

over Tony Blair's chart to be either a debate or at worst a dispute.

>

> The right word is discussion.

>

> Nothing that's been brought out in our discussions is a waste of

time for the other members of the list, as is evidenced by the

feedback given to us by Mr. Iver.

>

> An accurate prediction can be made for different charts at

different times. These may happen as a result of completely random

coincidences. For instance, the triple transit outlook for the odd

sign lagnas will almost always be superior to those of the even sign

lagnas. It is easier to justify positive events happening members of

the odd sign lagnas using triple transits.

>

> Open and honest discussion must be part of any intellectual

process. In the case of Tony Blair, if Aries consistently gives

greater accuracy than Taurus, then great. All is well.

>

> Best Wishes,

>

> Arun

>

> cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

Hello friends,

>

> The discussion of the likely chart for Tony Blair brought out

again the

> importance of predictions for our work. We can all see that gifted

> minds can easily make a case for one ascendant over another, even

with

> SA. When disagreement on the basis of analysis emerges, the debate

can

> devolve into a dispute that causes only irritation and wastes list

> members time. What is really indisputable is an accurate

prediction.

> However, one or few predictions are not enough. Repeat accurate

> predictions are needed to settle the matter of an authentic chart

in a

> convincing manner. This is why list members are encouraged to step

up

> to the plate and make predictions concerning charts of their

choice for

> world leaders or nations. It is an excellent learning experience

and

> makes the list members who participate much better astrologers.

With SA

> we already have such a huge advantage in making accurate

predictions.

> Let us not waste this opportunity.

>

> With best wishes for predictive success.

>

> C

 

> Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help.

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Agree totally with Arun. Teachers/Gurus/masters don't divulge/impart deeper levels of knowledge unless the inquiry into the subject is developed by the student and the master subjected to requests to impart more. Most times the master is pleased that the student is finally trying to enter his domain. Masters are not pleased because it mean leaving a legacy behind but mostly the masters are pleased to be of service to the world thru the student. A question or request for more knowledge can be construed by some as criticism but one can only see green if he/she is wearing green glasses. Only a matter of perspective. Rigorous debates only strengthens the very conceptual basis and foundation of SA. All glory to and Parashar and the guru lineage and our heartfelt thanx Jai gurudeo IverArun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear C,I really don't understand why you're interpreting the exchanges over Tony Blair's chart to be either a debate or at worst a dispute.The right word is discussion.Nothing that's been brought out in our discussions is a waste of time for the other members of the list, as is evidenced by the feedback given to us by Mr. Iver. An accurate prediction can be made for different charts at different times. These may happen as a result of completely random coincidences. For instance, the triple transit outlook for the odd sign lagnas will almost always be superior to those of the even sign lagnas. It is easier to justify positive events happening members of the odd sign lagnas using triple transits.Open and honest discussion must be part of any intellectual process. In the case of Tony Blair, if Aries consistently gives greater accuracy than Taurus,

then great. All is well.Best Wishes,Aruncosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Hello friends,The discussion of the likely chart for Tony Blair brought out again the importance of predictions for our work. We can all see that gifted minds can easily make a case for one ascendant over another, even with SA. When disagreement on the basis of analysis emerges, the debate can devolve into a dispute that causes only irritation and wastes list members time. What is really indisputable is an accurate prediction. However, one or few predictions are not enough. Repeat accurate predictions are needed to settle the matter of an authentic chart in a convincing manner. This is why list members are encouraged to step up to the plate and make

predictions concerning charts of their choice for world leaders or nations. It is an excellent learning experience and makes the list members who participate much better astrologers. With SA we already have such a huge advantage in making accurate predictions. Let us not waste this opportunity.With best wishes for predictive success.C

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Thank you, dear C. These are good points.Best Wishes,Aruncosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear Arun, I have been around lists for a long time and can quickly detect what pattern a given discussion is likely to take. Many people make the mistake to get overly involved with an analytical point of view sometimes to the detriment of list harmony. That´s why I said the discussion CAN easily devolve into a fruitless debate. Importantly, however, that wasn´t my main point at all.

My main point was on the need to let the predictions do the talking. I still hope to see more prediction from the list members, including you. It is the most effective way to resolve analytical differences and does so in an enjoyable and educational manner. Best wishes, C SAMVA , Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > > Dear C, > > I really don't understand why you're interpreting the exchanges over Tony Blair's chart to be either a debate or at worst a dispute. > > The right word is discussion. > > Nothing that's been brought out in our discussions is a waste of time for the other members of the list, as is evidenced by the feedback given to us by Mr. Iver. > > An accurate prediction can be made for different charts at different times. These may happen as

a result of completely random coincidences. For instance, the triple transit outlook for the odd sign lagnas will almost always be superior to those of the even sign lagnas. It is easier to justify positive events happening members of the odd sign lagnas using triple transits. > > Open and honest discussion must be part of any intellectual process. In the case of Tony Blair, if Aries consistently gives greater accuracy than Taurus, then great. All is well. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Hello friends, > > The discussion of the likely chart for Tony Blair brought out again the > importance of predictions for our work. We can all see that gifted > minds can easily make a case for one ascendant over another, even with > SA. When disagreement on the

basis of analysis emerges, the debate can > devolve into a dispute that causes only irritation and wastes list > members time. What is really indisputable is an accurate prediction. > However, one or few predictions are not enough. Repeat accurate > predictions are needed to settle the matter of an authentic chart in a > convincing manner. This is why list members are encouraged to step up > to the plate and make predictions concerning charts of their choice for > world leaders or nations. It is an excellent learning experience and > makes the list members who participate much better astrologers. With SA > we already have such a huge advantage in making accurate predictions. > Let us not waste this opportunity. > > With best wishes for predictive success. > > C > > > > > > > > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. >

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Hello dear Iver,

 

Thanks for your kind words. I always try to help with the best of my ability.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

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del iver

SAMVA

Monday, September 11, 2006 5:16 AM

Re: The way forward to become the best astrologers

 

Agree totally with Arun.

Teachers/Gurus/masters don't divulge/impart deeper levels of knowledge unless the inquiry into the subject is developed by the student and the master subjected to requests to impart more. Most times the master is pleased that the student is finally trying to enter his domain. Masters are not pleased because it mean leaving a legacy behind but mostly the masters are pleased to be of service to the world thru the student.

A question or request for more knowledge can be construed by some as criticism but one can only see green if he/she is wearing green glasses. Only a matter of perspective.

Rigorous debates only strengthens the very conceptual basis and foundation of SA.

All glory to and Parashar and the guru lineage and our heartfelt thanx

Jai gurudeo

IverArun Rao <arunrao9 wrote:

Dear C,I really don't understand why you're interpreting the exchanges over Tony Blair's chart to be either a debate or at worst a dispute.The right word is discussion.Nothing that's been brought out in our discussions is a waste of time for the other members of the list, as is evidenced by the feedback given to us by Mr. Iver. An accurate prediction can be made for different charts at different times. These may happen as a result of completely random coincidences. For instance, the triple transit outlook for the odd sign lagnas will almost always be superior to those of the even sign lagnas. It is easier to justify positive events happening members of the odd sign lagnas using triple transits.Open and honest discussion must be part of any intellectual process. In the case of Tony Blair, if Aries consistently gives greater accuracy than Taurus, then great. All is well.Best Wishes,Aruncosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

 

Hello friends,The discussion of the likely chart for Tony Blair brought out again the importance of predictions for our work. We can all see that gifted minds can easily make a case for one ascendant over another, even with SA. When disagreement on the basis of analysis emerges, the debate can devolve into a dispute that causes only irritation and wastes list members time. What is really indisputable is an accurate prediction. However, one or few predictions are not enough. Repeat accurate predictions are needed to settle the matter of an authentic chart in a convincing manner. This is why list members are encouraged to step up to the plate and make predictions concerning charts of their choice for world leaders or nations. It is an excellent learning experience and makes the list members who participate much better astrologers. With SA we already have such a huge advantage in making accurate predictions. Let us not waste this opportunity.With best wishes for predictive success.C

 

 

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