USA Cancer rising chart and US stock market

October 13, 2006

Hello list, Vyas Munidas has been doing some very interesting work, having discovered a link between the US stock market and the condition of Mars in transit. That said, his analysis has not been incorporating the functional angle, as he has primarily been focusing on contacts in the general zodiac. Nevertheless, his knack for picking up interesting contacts is very helpful for other astrologers interested in applying these insights to a natal chart they consider holding promise. A chart that explains past major drops in the US stock market pretty well in the USA is the 21° Cancer rising chart. This chart places Mars as L10 in H5 at 25° 51' Scorpio and closely conjunct L8 Saturn at 28° 28'. L10 Mars brings with it managerial and industrial emphasis to the house of creativity, entertainment and speculation. The nearness to L8 Saturn brings easy gains but also endings. Natal

L3 Mercury is in infancy and debilitation in H9, signifying progress with innovations and business start ups, notably related to telecommunications and transportation, but due to the weakness of the placement those things are liable to setbacks. On 25 October 1929 when the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) suffered a large drop heralding the onset of the Great Depression of the 1930s, Ra/Me period was running. Transit L6 Jupiter was at 22° Taurus conjunct H11 MEP and in oppostion to natal Mars and aspecting transit Mercury in H3, while transit Mars was at 19° Libra conjunct the H4 MEP and transit and natal nodal axis. On 19 October 1987 when the DJIA suffered its larges drop in almost 60 years transit Me/Ju period was running and L8 Saturn was at 23° Scorpio conjunct H5 MEP and natal L10 Mars. Transit L6 Jupiter was on that day also exactly opposite

transit L2 Sun, both in infancy. Transit Mars was widely conjunct transit nodal axis. Transit L3 Mercury and L4 Venus were in H4 widely conjunct natal nodal axis. On 14 April 2000, the stock market was also in stress, with notably the Nasdaq market falling like a knife. The DJIA also dropped almost 6% on that day. Ve/Ve period was running. Transit L10 Mars was in H6 in infancy. The transit nodes were in H12 and H6 in exact aspect to their natal placement. Transit L8 Saturn was at 5° Taurus conjunct L11 Moon at 2° 34' Taurus and opposite natal L6 Jupiter at 6° 25' Scorpio. Transit L4 Venus at 8° Pisces/H9 was under close aspect of natal L6 Jupiter. From late 2002 to Spring of 2003 transit L8 Saturn in H12 was tenth house aspecting natal L3 Mercury. As predicted, when this aspect lifted share prices rose in the USA. Around 22 October 2007, Ve/Ra period will be running

and transit L6 Jupiter will be at 23° Scorpio and conjunct natal Mars. Transit L8 and Ketu will be conjunct at 11° Leo under aspect from natal Rahu in H10. Transit L10 Mars will be at 14° Gemini/H12 under exact aspect from natal Ketu in H4 and transit Rahu in H8. At that time, the US stock market looks to be in serious trouble. Best regards, C

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October 13, 2006

Dear Cosmologer,

Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Let us look first to the role of Mars in the rectified chart of US, and then

let us analyse the dates refered by you:

Mars is L6 (financial

stability) and is placed in H7 (foreign

trade), in Taurus (earning

capacity of the nation, profit and loss, shares of stock, national trade). It

is 85% old and its house of placement is exactly afflicted by Ketu. H5 relates to affairs of stock exchanges, speculations, and public

investments. H6 (financial

solvency of the nation) is the second house (gains) from H5 and relates to gains (or losses) from stock

exchanges, speculations, etc.

On 25 October 1929 when the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) suffered a large

drop heralding the onset of the Great Depression of the 1930s, the dasha was Ra/Su/Me/Me/Sa. Transit Rahu was

badly placed and afflicted by Mars. Transit Sun was debilitated and badly placed, and natal Sun was exactly afflicted by transit afflicted Ketu.

Transit Mercury, L11, was afflicted by

natal Ketu, and its MT house was afflicted by the MMP, Venus. Transit

Saturn was afflicted by natal Mars. Transit Jupiter (financial

significator), L2, is retrograde

in H7 and closely afflicted by

badly placed and afflicted Mars, and natal Jupiter is closely afflicted by afflicted & badly placed stationary Ketu. When Jupiter is afflicted it refers to purchases made at a price

far above their real value. H6 was

afflicted by stationary Rahu/Ketu axis, and Mars, L6, was exactly afflicted by the Ketu/Rahu axis and badly placed in H12 (losses).

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On 19 October 1987 when the DJIA

suffered its largest drop in almost 60 years, the dasha was Ke/Ra/Ju/Me/Ve. H6 was afflicted by

transit Venus, and transit Mars, L6, was afflicted by natal Ketu. Transit Jupiter,

L2, was extremely weak and retrograde in the afflicted H6, and transit Mercury,

L11, was retrograde and closely afflicted by transit Venus in H12 (losses). Transit

Rahu/Ketu axis was afflicted by transit Mars, and transit Rahu was afflicting

natal retrograde Mercury. Transit Mars was afflicting MEP2, MEP5 and MEP11.

On 14 April 2000, the stock market was also in stress, with notably the Nasdaq market

falling like a knife. The DJIA also dropped almost 6% on that day. The dasha was Ve/Ra/Me/Ve/Ra. Transit Venus was

exactly over MEP5, afflicting also MEP11. Transit Rahu/Ketu axis was exactly

over natal Mercury, and transit Mercury was in the afflicted H5, afflicted by

transit Rahu. Transit Jupiter and Saturn were badly placed in H6 and afflicted

by transit Mars. Transit Sun has just entered H6.

It seems the rectified chart of US can also

explain very well the fluctuations in the stock market.

Best wishes,

Jorge

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Cosmologer

sexta-feira, 13 de Outubro

de 2006 22:34

samva

USA Cancer rising

chart and US stock market

Hello list,

Vyas Munidas has been

doing some very interesting work, having discovered a link between the US stock

market and the condition of Mars in transit. That said, his analysis has not

been incorporating the functional angle, as he has primarily been focusing on

contacts in the general zodiac. Nevertheless, his knack for picking up

interesting contacts is very helpful for other astrologers interested in

applying these insights to a natal chart they consider holding promise.

A chart that explains past

major drops in the US stock market pretty well in the USA is the 21Â°

Cancer rising chart. This chart places Mars as L10 in H5 at 25Â° 51' Scorpio and

closely conjunct L8 Saturn at 28Â° 28'. L10 Mars brings with it

managerial and industrial emphasis to the house of

creativity, entertainment and speculation. The nearness to L8 Saturn

brings easy gains but also endings. Natal L3 Mercury is in infancy and

debilitation in H9, signifying progress with innovations and business start

ups, notably related to telecommunications and transportation, but due to the

weakness of the placement those things are liable to setbacks.

On 25 October 1929 when

the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) suffered a large drop

heralding the onset of the Great Depression of the 1930s, Ra/Me

period was running. Transit L6 Jupiter was at 22Â°

Taurus conjunct H11 MEP and in oppostion to natal Mars and aspecting

transit Mercury in H3, while transit Mars was at 19Â° Libra conjunct the H4 MEP

and transit and natal nodal axis.

On 19 October 1987 when

the DJIA suffered its larges drop in almost 60 years transit Me/Ju period was

running and L8 Saturn was at 23Â° Scorpio conjunct H5 MEP and natal

L10 Mars. Transit L6 Jupiter was on that day also exactly opposite transit

L2 Sun, both in infancy. Transit Mars was widely conjunct transit nodal axis.

Transit L3 Mercury and L4 Venus were in H4 widely conjunct natal nodal axis.

On 14 April 2000, the

stock market was also in stress, with notably the Nasdaq market falling like a

knife. The DJIA also dropped almost 6% on that day. Ve/Ve period was running.

Transit L10 Mars was in H6 in infancy. The transit nodes were in H12 and H6 in

exact aspect to their natal placement. Transit L8 Saturn was at 5Â° Taurus

conjunct L11 Moon at 2Â° 34' Taurus and opposite natal L6 Jupiter at 6Â° 25'

Scorpio. Transit L4 Venus at 8Â° Pisces/H9 was under close aspect of natal

L6 Jupiter.

From late 2002 to Spring

of 2003 transit L8 Saturn in H12 was tenth house aspecting natal L3

Mercury. As predicted, when this aspect lifted share prices rose in the USA.

Around 22 October 2007,

Ve/Ra period will be running and transit L6 Jupiter will be at 23Â° Scorpio and

conjunct natal Mars. Transit L8 and Ketu will be conjunct at 11Â° Leo under

aspect from natal Rahu in H10. Transit L10 Mars will be at 14Â° Gemini/H12

under exact aspect from natal Ketu in H4 and transit Rahu in H8. At that

time, the US stock market looks to be in serious trouble.

Best regards,

C

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October 13, 2006

Dear Jorge,

Importantly, a prediction was attached to the Cancer rising chart.

It would be helpful to the evaluation of the Scorpio rising chart if

predictions were made against it.

Claims can be made about many charts when holding them up against

past history. However, only accurate predictions can resolve the

doubt. Unless the predictions are made, no one will know for sure.

Best wishes,

C

SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino

wrote:

>

> Dear Cosmologer,

>

> Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

>

> Let us look first to the role of Mars in the rectified chart of

US, and then let us analyse the dates refered by you:

>

> Mars is L6 (financial stability) and is placed in H7 (foreign

trade), in Taurus (earning capacity of the nation, profit and loss,

shares of stock, national trade). It is 85% old and its house of

placement is exactly afflicted by Ketu. H5 relates to affairs of

stock exchanges, speculations, and public investments. H6 (financial

solvency of the nation) is the second house (gains) from H5 and

relates to gains (or losses) from stock exchanges, speculations,

etc.

>

> On 25 October 1929 when the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA)

suffered a large drop heralding the onset of the Great Depression of

the 1930s, the dasha was Ra/Su/Me/Me/Sa. Transit Rahu was badly

placed and afflicted by Mars. Transit Sun was debilitated and badly

placed, and natal Sun was exactly afflicted by transit afflicted

Ketu. Transit Mercury, L11, was afflicted by natal Ketu, and its MT

house was afflicted by the MMP, Venus. Transit Saturn was afflicted

by natal Mars. Transit Jupiter (financial significator), L2, is

retrograde in H7 and closely afflicted by badly placed and afflicted

Mars, and natal Jupiter is closely afflicted by afflicted & badly

placed stationary Ketu. When Jupiter is afflicted it refers to

purchases made at a price far above their real value. H6 was

afflicted by stationary Rahu/Ketu axis, and Mars, L6, was exactly

afflicted by the Ketu/Rahu axis and badly placed in H12 (losses).

>

On 19 October 1987 when the DJIA suffered its largest drop in

almost 60 years, the dasha was Ke/Ra/Ju/Me/Ve. H6 was afflicted by

transit Venus, and transit Mars, L6, was afflicted by natal Ketu.

Transit Jupiter, L2, was extremely weak and retrograde in the

afflicted H6, and transit Mercury, L11, was retrograde and closely

afflicted by transit Venus in H12 (losses). Transit Rahu/Ketu axis

was afflicted by transit Mars, and transit Rahu was afflicting natal

retrograde Mercury. Transit Mars was afflicting MEP2, MEP5 and MEP11.

>

On 14 April 2000, the stock market was also in stress, with

notably the Nasdaq market falling like a knife. The DJIA also

dropped almost 6% on that day. The dasha was Ve/Ra/Me/Ve/Ra. Transit

Venus was exactly over MEP5, afflicting also MEP11. Transit

Rahu/Ketu axis was exactly over natal Mercury, and transit Mercury

was in the afflicted H5, afflicted by transit Rahu. Transit Jupiter

and Saturn were badly placed in H6 and afflicted by transit Mars.

Transit Sun has just entered H6.

>

It seems the rectified chart of US can also explain very well the

fluctuations in the stock market.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

> SAMVA [sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of Cosmologer

> sexta-feira, 13 de Outubro de 2006 22:34

> samva

> USA Cancer rising chart and US stock market

>

> Hello list,

>

> Vyas Munidas has been doing some very interesting work, having

discovered a link between the US stock market and the condition of

Mars in transit. That said, his analysis has not been incorporating

the functional angle, as he has primarily been focusing on contacts

in the general zodiac. Nevertheless, his knack for picking up

interesting contacts is very helpful for other astrologers

interested in applying these insights to a natal chart they consider

holding promise.

>

> A chart that explains past major drops in the US stock market

pretty well in the USA is the 21Â° Cancer rising chart. This chart

places Mars as L10 in H5 at 25Â° 51' Scorpio and closely conjunct L8

Saturn at 28Â° 28'. L10 Mars brings with it managerial and

industrial emphasis to the house of creativity, entertainment and

speculation. The nearness to L8 Saturn brings easy gains but also

endings. Natal L3 Mercury is in infancy and debilitation in H9,

signifying progress with innovations and business start ups, notably

related to telecommunications and transportation, but due to the

weakness of the placement those things are liable to setbacks.

>

> On 25 October 1929 when the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA)

suffered a large drop heralding the onset of the Great Depression of

the 1930s, Ra/Me period was running. Transit L6 Jupiter was at 22Â°

Taurus conjunct H11 MEP and in oppostion to natal Mars and aspecting

transit Mercury in H3, while transit Mars was at 19Â° Libra conjunct

the H4 MEP and transit and natal nodal axis.

>

> On 19 October 1987 when the DJIA suffered its larges drop in

almost 60 years transit Me/Ju period was running and L8 Saturn was

at 23Â° Scorpio conjunct H5 MEP and natal L10 Mars. Transit L6

Jupiter was on that day also exactly opposite transit L2 Sun, both

in infancy. Transit Mars was widely conjunct transit nodal axis.

Transit L3 Mercury and L4 Venus were in H4 widely conjunct natal

nodal axis.

>

> On 14 April 2000, the stock market was also in stress, with

notably the Nasdaq market falling like a knife. The DJIA also

dropped almost 6% on that day. Ve/Ve period was running. Transit L10

Mars was in H6 in infancy. The transit nodes were in H12 and H6 in

exact aspect to their natal placement. Transit L8 Saturn was at 5Â°

Taurus conjunct L11 Moon at 2Â° 34' Taurus and opposite natal L6

Jupiter at 6Â° 25' Scorpio. Transit L4 Venus at 8Â° Pisces/H9 was

under close aspect of natal L6 Jupiter.

>

> From late 2002 to Spring of 2003 transit L8 Saturn in H12 was

tenth house aspecting natal L3 Mercury. As predicted, when this

aspect lifted share prices rose in the USA.

>

> Around 22 October 2007, Ve/Ra period will be running and transit

L6 Jupiter will be at 23Â° Scorpio and conjunct natal Mars. Transit

L8 and Ketu will be conjunct at 11Â° Leo under aspect from natal

Rahu in H10. Transit L10 Mars will be at 14Â° Gemini/H12 under exact

aspect from natal Ketu in H4 and transit Rahu in H8. At that time,

the US stock market looks to be in serious trouble.

>

> Best regards,

>

> C

>

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October 13, 2006

Dear C.

Please provide the natal date, location, and time for the 21 degree

Cancer rising chart that you are using.

SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

>

> Hello list,

>

> Vyas Munidas has been doing some very interesting work, having

discovered a link between the US stock market and the condition of

Mars in transit. That said, his analysis has not been incorporating

the functional angle, as he has primarily been focusing on contacts

in the general zodiac. Nevertheless, his knack for picking up

interesting contacts is very helpful for other astrologers interested

in applying these insights to a natal chart they consider holding

promise.

>

> A chart that explains past major drops in the US stock market

pretty well in the USA is the 21° Cancer rising chart. This chart

places Mars as L10 in H5 at 25° 51' Scorpio and closely conjunct L8

Saturn at 28° 28'. L10 Mars brings with it managerial and industrial

emphasis to the house of creativity, entertainment and speculation.

The nearness to L8 Saturn brings easy gains but also endings. Natal

L3 Mercury is in infancy and debilitation in H9, signifying progress

with innovations and business start ups, notably related to

telecommunications and transportation, but due to the weakness of the

placement those things are liable to setbacks.

>

> On 25 October 1929 when the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA)

suffered a large drop heralding the onset of the Great Depression of

the 1930s, Ra/Me period was running. Transit L6 Jupiter was at 22°

Taurus conjunct H11 MEP and in oppostion to natal Mars and aspecting

transit Mercury in H3, while transit Mars was at 19° Libra conjunct

the H4 MEP and transit and natal nodal axis.

>

> On 19 October 1987 when the DJIA suffered its larges drop in

almost 60 years transit Me/Ju period was running and L8 Saturn was at

23° Scorpio conjunct H5 MEP and natal L10 Mars. Transit L6 Jupiter

was on that day also exactly opposite transit L2 Sun, both in

infancy. Transit Mars was widely conjunct transit nodal axis. Transit

L3 Mercury and L4 Venus were in H4 widely conjunct natal nodal axis.

>

> On 14 April 2000, the stock market was also in stress, with

notably the Nasdaq market falling like a knife. The DJIA also dropped

almost 6% on that day. Ve/Ve period was running. Transit L10 Mars was

in H6 in infancy. The transit nodes were in H12 and H6 in exact

aspect to their natal placement. Transit L8 Saturn was at 5° Taurus

conjunct L11 Moon at 2° 34' Taurus and opposite natal L6 Jupiter at

6° 25' Scorpio. Transit L4 Venus at 8° Pisces/H9 was under close

aspect of natal L6 Jupiter.

>

> From late 2002 to Spring of 2003 transit L8 Saturn in H12 was

tenth house aspecting natal L3 Mercury. As predicted, when this

aspect lifted share prices rose in the USA.

>

> Around 22 October 2007, Ve/Ra period will be running and transit

L6 Jupiter will be at 23° Scorpio and conjunct natal Mars. Transit L8

and Ketu will be conjunct at 11° Leo under aspect from natal Rahu in

H10. Transit L10 Mars will be at 14° Gemini/H12 under exact aspect

from natal Ketu in H4 and transit Rahu in H8. At that time, the US

stock market looks to be in serious trouble.

>

> Best regards,

>

> C

>

> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

>

October 13, 2006

USA Cancer

Mar 1, 1781 3:18 PM +05:00

Pennsylvania, PA Longitude: 75W10 Latitude: 39N57

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 20:48 Current Period: VE/RA/SA

Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

================================================

Asc 21:06 Can Aslesha Me

Sun 20:52 Aqu +01:00:05 WK P.Bhadra Ju

Moon 02:34 Tau +12:10:11 WK Krittika Su

Mars 25:51 Sco +00:34:05 WK Jyeshtha Me

Merc 00:24 Pis +01:54:45 CM P.Bhadra Ju

Jupt 06:25 Sco +00:02:07 FM Anuradha Sa

Ven 27:08 Cap +01:14:14 WK Dhanishtha Ma

Sat 28:28 Sco +00:02:39 FM Jyeshtha Me

Rahu 15:02 Ari +00:01:10 FM Bharani Ve

Ketu 15:02 Lib +00:01:10 FM Swati Ra

True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 888 beats

Day: Thursday Sunrise: 6:35 AM

Tithi: Shukla Shashthi

Yoga Pt: 26:46 Ge Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me

Dagha Rashis: Ari Leo

Sytems Approach Analysis

========================

Sun Bad Placement, Weak Dispositor,

Moon Good Placement, In Infancy: 48%, Moon Not Bright 1%,

Mars Good Placement, In Old Age: 17%,

Mercury Good Placement, Combust 35%, Debilitated, In Infancy: 92%,

Jupiter Good Placement,

Venus Good Placement, Debilitated in Navamsha, In Old Age: 42%,

Saturn Good Placement, In Old Age: 69%,

Rahu Good Placement, Weak Dispositor,

Ketu Good Placement, Weak Dispositor,

Rashi Chart

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** 5 * * 3 **

*6 * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * 4 AS 21:06 * 2 MO 02:34*

* * * * * *

** * * **

*7 KE 15:02 * 1 RA 15:02 *

** * * **

*8 * * * * *

* * * * * *

*JU 06:25 * * * * *

*MA 25:51 * 10 VE 27:08 * 12 ME 00:24*

*SA 28:28 * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * SU 20:52 * *

* * * * * *

** 9 * * 11 **

*******************************************************

Navamsha

*******************************************************

** 11 * * 9 **

*12* * * * *

* * * * * *

* * MA * * * *

* KE * * * *

* * * AS * * *

*SA * 10 MO * 8 *

* * * * * *

** * * **

*1 SU * 7 *

** * * **

*2 * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * 4 ME * 6 VE *

* * * * * *

* * * JU * *

* * * * RA * *

* * * * * *

** 3 * * 5 **

*******************************************************

Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis (Contemporary)

=======================================

Ju/Ju 5.7.1939

Ju/Sa 22.8.1941

Ju/Me 5.3.1944

Ju/Ke 11.6.1946

Ju/Ve 18.5.1947

Ju/Su 16.1.1950

Ju/Mo 4.11.1950

Ju/Ma 5.3.1952

Ju/Ra 9.2.1953

Sa/Sa 5.7.1955

Sa/Me 8.7.1958

Sa/Ke 17.3.1961

Sa/Ve 26.4.1962

Sa/Su 26.6.1965

Sa/Mo 8.6.1966

Sa/Ma 7.1.1968

Sa/Ra 15.2.1969

Sa/Ju 23.12.1971

Me/Me 5.7.1974

Me/Ke 1.12.1976

Me/Ve 28.11.1977

Me/Su 28.9.1980

Me/Mo 4.8.1981

Me/Ma 4.1.1983

Me/Ra 1.1.1984

Me/Ju 20.7.1986

Me/Sa 25.10.1988

Ke/Ke 5.7.1991

Ke/Ve 1.12.1991

Ke/Su 31.1.1993

Ke/Mo 7.6.1993

Ke/Ma 6.1.1994

Ke/Ra 5.6.1994

Ke/Ju 23.6.1995

Ke/Sa 29.5.1996

Ke/Me 8.7.1997

Ve/Ve 5.7.1998

Ve/Su 4.11.2001

Ve/Mo 4.11.2002

Ve/Ma 5.7.2004

Ve/Ra 4.9.2005

Ve/Ju 3.9.2008

Ve/Sa 5.5.2011

Ve/Me 5.7.2014

Ve/Ke 5.5.2017

Su/Su 5.7.2018

Su/Mo 23.10.2018

Su/Ma 23.4.2019

Su/Ra 29.8.2019

Su/Ju 23.7.2020

Su/Sa 11.5.2021

Su/Me 23.4.2022

Su/Ke 27.2.2023

Su/Ve 5.7.2023

Mo/Mo 5.7.2024

Mo/Ma 5.5.2025

Mo/Ra 4.12.2025

Mo/Ju 5.6.2027

Mo/Sa 4.10.2028

Mo/Me 5.5.2030

Mo/Ke 5.10.2031

Mo/Ve 5.5.2032

Mo/Su 3.1.2034

Ma/Ma 5.7.2034

Ma/Ra 1.12.2034

Ma/Ju 20.12.2035

Ma/Sa 25.11.2036

Ma/Me 3.1.2038

Ma/Ke 1.1.2039

Ma/Ve 30.5.2039

Ma/Su 29.7.2040

Ma/Mo 4.12.2040

Ra/Ra 5.7.2041

Ra/Ju 17.3.2044

Ra/Sa 11.8.2046

Ra/Me 16.6.2049

Ra/Ke 4.1.2052

Ra/Ve 21.1.2053

Ra/Su 22.1.2056

Ra/Mo 16.12.2056

Ra/Ma 17.6.2058

SAMVA , " searchbutton " <searchbutton

wrote:

>

> Dear C.

>

> Please provide the natal date, location, and time for the 21

degree

> Cancer rising chart that you are using.

>

> SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello list,

> >

> > Vyas Munidas has been doing some very interesting work, having

> discovered a link between the US stock market and the condition of

> Mars in transit. That said, his analysis has not been

incorporating

> the functional angle, as he has primarily been focusing on

contacts

> in the general zodiac. Nevertheless, his knack for picking up

> interesting contacts is very helpful for other astrologers

interested

> in applying these insights to a natal chart they consider holding

> promise.

> >

> > A chart that explains past major drops in the US stock market

> pretty well in the USA is the 21° Cancer rising chart. This chart

> places Mars as L10 in H5 at 25° 51' Scorpio and closely conjunct

L8

> Saturn at 28° 28'. L10 Mars brings with it managerial and

industrial

> emphasis to the house of creativity, entertainment and

speculation.

> The nearness to L8 Saturn brings easy gains but also endings.

Natal

> L3 Mercury is in infancy and debilitation in H9, signifying

progress

> with innovations and business start ups, notably related to

> telecommunications and transportation, but due to the weakness of

the

> placement those things are liable to setbacks.

> >

> > On 25 October 1929 when the Dow Jones Industrial Average

(DJIA)

> suffered a large drop heralding the onset of the Great Depression

of

> the 1930s, Ra/Me period was running. Transit L6 Jupiter was at 22°

> Taurus conjunct H11 MEP and in oppostion to natal Mars and

aspecting

> transit Mercury in H3, while transit Mars was at 19° Libra

conjunct

> the H4 MEP and transit and natal nodal axis.

> >

> > On 19 October 1987 when the DJIA suffered its larges drop in

> almost 60 years transit Me/Ju period was running and L8 Saturn was

at

> 23° Scorpio conjunct H5 MEP and natal L10 Mars. Transit L6 Jupiter

> was on that day also exactly opposite transit L2 Sun, both in

> infancy. Transit Mars was widely conjunct transit nodal axis.

Transit

> L3 Mercury and L4 Venus were in H4 widely conjunct natal nodal

axis.

> >

> > On 14 April 2000, the stock market was also in stress, with

> notably the Nasdaq market falling like a knife. The DJIA also

dropped

> almost 6% on that day. Ve/Ve period was running. Transit L10 Mars

was

> in H6 in infancy. The transit nodes were in H12 and H6 in exact

> aspect to their natal placement. Transit L8 Saturn was at 5°

Taurus

> conjunct L11 Moon at 2° 34' Taurus and opposite natal L6 Jupiter

at

> 6° 25' Scorpio. Transit L4 Venus at 8° Pisces/H9 was under close

> aspect of natal L6 Jupiter.

> >

> > From late 2002 to Spring of 2003 transit L8 Saturn in H12 was

> tenth house aspecting natal L3 Mercury. As predicted, when this

> aspect lifted share prices rose in the USA.

> >

> > Around 22 October 2007, Ve/Ra period will be running and

transit

> L6 Jupiter will be at 23° Scorpio and conjunct natal Mars. Transit

L8

> and Ketu will be conjunct at 11° Leo under aspect from natal Rahu

in

> H10. Transit L10 Mars will be at 14° Gemini/H12 under exact aspect

> from natal Ketu in H4 and transit Rahu in H8. At that time, the US

> stock market looks to be in serious trouble.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > C

> >

> > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> >

>

October 14, 2006

Dear

Cosmologer,

I understand your point of view.

As you know, a few correct predictions using

the rectified chart of US were made in the past by me and by the Professor. However,

at the moment, I feel no need to make any prediction to prove anything. The rectified

charts for all the countries are there, available to everyone. It is up to the

people to use them or not. No problem.

I am using the rectified charts, because I

know how they came about.

Anyway, subjectivity exists in predictions

as well.

Best wishes,

Jorge

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of cosmologer

sÃ¡bado, 14 de Outubro de

2006 01:22

SAMVA

Re: USA Cancer

rising chart and US stock market

Dear Jorge,

Importantly, a prediction was attached to the Cancer rising chart.

It would be helpful to the evaluation of the Scorpio rising chart if

predictions were made against it.

Claims can be made about many charts when holding them up against

past history. However, only accurate predictions can resolve the

doubt. Unless the predictions are made, no one will know for sure.

Best wishes,

C

SAMVA ,

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino