Guest guest Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 Dear List, Regarding the theme of ASTRAL REMEDIES FOR COUNTRIES, I would like to share what is claimed by Dr. John Hagelin. You may remember him if you have seen the movie that came up last March, THE SECRET OF CONSCIOUS CO-CREATION. Best wishes, Jorge PRESS RELEASE RESULTS FROM THE FIRST 75 DAYS OF THE INVINCIBLE AMERICA COURSE AT MAHARISHI UNIVERSITY OF MANAGEMENT IN FAIRFIELD, IOWA Stock Market Booms, Oil and Gas Prices Plummet, and No Hurricanes Hit U.S. Shores Largest Scientific Demonstration Project Saves the Nation $200 Billion So Far “America is being transformed by the rise of coherence in national consciousness created by the group of 1200 Yogic Flyers in Washington, D.C., and Iowa. As the number rises to 2000, any lingering problems will be quickly resolved.†—World-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin A surprisingly robust U.S. economy and a booming stock market, a successful U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon, and an unexpectedly benign hurricane season are among the clear signs of success of the first 75 days of the largest scientific demonstration project ever to monitor the effect of group Yogic Flying practice on the economic, social, and even climatic trends of the nation. This is the assessment of world-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin, director of the ongoing national demonstration project, which is being funded through a generous gift of $12 million a year by the “Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America.†Signs of Success Dr. Hagelin said that since the “Invincible America Course†began on July 23 with 1200 advanced Transcendental Meditation–Yogic Flying experts in Washington, D.C., and Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, national trends have improved dramatically, as publicly predicted by researchers before the course began: · A faltering U.S. economy has suddenly turned robust—led by a booming stock market, which pulled out from its downward spiral in mid-July and has since climbed nearly 1000 points, breaking all-time records · The price of oil, which peaked at $78 a barrel in mid-July, has plummeted more than 25% to below $58 a barrel—with gas prices dropping 25% as well · A surprisingly effective U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon has prevented a dangerous escalation of violence in the region · Dire predictions of a destructive Atlantic hurricane season have proven unfounded, as no hurricanes have struck U.S. shores this year “This dramatic transformation in national trends, which began with the start of the demonstration project, is no mere coincidence or anomaly,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This transformation is the direct result of the increased coherence in national consciousness created by the 1200 Yogic Flyers.†According to Dr. Hagelin, the nation has saved at least $200 billion in hurricane costs (Katrina alone caused an estimated $150 billion in damages), with untold billions more added to the economy by the bullish stock market. Extensive published research confirms the benefits of the “Maharishi Effect†Dr. Hagelin cited prior research, published in leading, peer-reviewed scientific journals, which has documented reduced negative trends, including reduced crime and violence, and improved economic and social trends when as few as the square root of one percent of a population practice Yogic Flying together in a group. Scientists named this phenomenon the “Maharishi Effect†after His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogic, the renowned Vedic scholar who founded the Transcendental Meditation program, and who predicted the beneficial impact of group meditation on social trends as early as 1975. Creating the “Meissner Effect†for the nation Dr. Hagelin, who serves as President of the US Peace Government and Minister of Science and Technology of the Global Country of World Peace, said that group Yogic Flying practice creates the equivalent in society of the “Meissner Effect†of physics. “The Meissner Effect refers to the ability of a superconductor to spontaneously repel any disruptive influences, due to the coherent functioning of its atomic constituents,†Dr. Hagelin said. “The Meissner Effect explains how coherent national consciousness created by the Yogic Flyers can similarly repel any disruptive influence—terrorism, conflict, or even a hurricane—and prevent it from inflicting damage on the nation.†Group of 2000 Yogic Flyers needed to make the nation invincible Dr. Hagelin acknowledged that serious problems persist in the world, but said that as the number of Yogic Flyers in the U.S. reaches the square root of one percent of the U.S. population (about 2000), there will be an even more dramatic improvement in national trends, and any lingering problems will be quickly resolved. “This is not wishful thinking,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This is hard science that has been field-tested for over 50 years and documented through more than 600 studies conducted at over 250 independent universities and research institutes throughout the world.†Establishing a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe for permanent world peace Dr. Hagelin added that similar groups of Yogic Flyers are now being established in 39 more countries to create a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe and quickly raise the whole world to a state of permanent peace. -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006  Dear Jorge, Thanks for your post. Once their ring is in place, this will have statistical significance if there are no major and minor wars, economic prosperity globally and no natural/manmade disasters for the next 10 years. Otherwise, it's jumping the gun. I am not sure if they are causing such good events. I (and likely many others) foresaw the same on a global level, understanding the upcoming transits. If the economy is in a slump, start/engage in a war - this has been common in the US for the last century. Any macro economist will tell you this without astrology. This is just economic and seasonal cycle- common sense. However, every little bit helps and I am a firm believer in such practices to raise the global consciousness. We should all do our part to meditate or chant some japa and send out good thoughts and blessings to others on a global level. Permanent peace in kaliyuga will not happen and I am an optimist. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:05 PM FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) Dear List, Regarding the theme of ASTRAL REMEDIES FOR COUNTRIES, I would like to share what is claimed by Dr. John Hagelin. You may remember him if you have seen the movie that came up last March, THE SECRET OF CONSCIOUS CO-CREATION. Best wishes, Jorge PRESS RELEASE RESULTS FROM THE FIRST 75 DAYS OF THEINVINCIBLE AMERICA COURSE AT MAHARISHI UNIVERSITYOF MANAGEMENT IN FAIRFIELD, IOWA Stock Market Booms, Oil and Gas Prices Plummet,and No Hurricanes Hit U.S. Shores Largest Scientific Demonstration ProjectSaves the Nation $200 Billion So Far “America is being transformed by the rise of coherence in national consciousness created by the group of 1200 Yogic Flyers in Washington, D.C., and Iowa. As the number rises to 2000, any lingering problems will be quickly resolved.†—World-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin A surprisingly robust U.S. economy and a booming stock market, a successful U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon, and an unexpectedly benign hurricane season are among the clear signs of success of the first 75 days of the largest scientific demonstration project ever to monitor the effect of group Yogic Flying practice on the economic, social, and even climatic trends of the nation. This is the assessment of world-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin, director of the ongoing national demonstration project, which is being funded through a generous gift of $12 million a year by the “Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America.†Signs of Success Dr. Hagelin said that since the “Invincible America Course†began on July 23 with 1200 advanced Transcendental Meditation–Yogic Flying experts in Washington, D.C., and Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, national trends have improved dramatically, as publicly predicted by researchers before the course began: · A faltering U.S. economy has suddenly turned robust—led by a booming stock market, which pulled out from its downward spiral in mid-July and has since climbed nearly 1000 points, breaking all-time records · The price of oil, which peaked at $78 a barrel in mid-July, has plummeted more than 25% to below $58 a barrel—with gas prices dropping 25% as well · A surprisingly effective U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon has prevented a dangerous escalation of violence in the region · Dire predictions of a destructive Atlantic hurricane season have proven unfounded, as no hurricanes have struck U.S. shores this year “This dramatic transformation in national trends, which began with the start of the demonstration project, is no mere coincidence or anomaly,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This transformation is the direct result of the increased coherence in national consciousness created by the 1200 Yogic Flyers.â€According to Dr. Hagelin, the nation has saved at least $200 billion in hurricane costs (Katrina alone caused an estimated $150 billion in damages), with untold billions more added to the economy by the bullish stock market. Extensive published research confirms the benefits of the “Maharishi Effect†Dr. Hagelin cited prior research, published in leading, peer-reviewed scientific journals, which has documented reduced negative trends, including reduced crime and violence, and improved economic and social trends when as few as the square root of one percent of a population practice Yogic Flying together in a group. Scientists named this phenomenon the “Maharishi Effect†after His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogic, the renowned Vedic scholar who founded the Transcendental Meditation program, and who predicted the beneficial impact of group meditation on social trends as early as 1975. Creating the “Meissner Effect†for the nation Dr. Hagelin, who serves as President of the US Peace Government and Minister of Science and Technology of the Global Country of World Peace, said that group Yogic Flying practice creates the equivalent in society of the “Meissner Effect†of physics. “The Meissner Effect refers to the ability of a superconductor to spontaneously repel any disruptive influences, due to the coherent functioning of its atomic constituents,†Dr. Hagelin said. “The Meissner Effect explains how coherent national consciousness created by the Yogic Flyers can similarly repel any disruptive influence—terrorism, conflict, or even a hurricane—and prevent it from inflicting damage on the nation.†Group of 2000 Yogic Flyers needed to make the nation invincible Dr. Hagelin acknowledged that serious problems persist in the world, but said that as the number of Yogic Flyers in the U.S. reaches the square root of one percent of the U.S. population (about 2000), there will be an even more dramatic improvement in national trends, and any lingering problems will be quickly resolved. “This is not wishful thinking,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This is hard science that has been field-tested for over 50 years and documented through more than 600 studies conducted at over 250 independent universities and research institutes throughout the world.†Establishing a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe for permanent world peace Dr. Hagelin added that similar groups of Yogic Flyers are now being established in 39 more countries to create a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe and quickly raise the whole world to a state of permanent peace. --Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 --Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 >>Permanent peace in kaliyuga will not happen and I am an optimist That "will" (transitive verb) seems to have a finality about it. Ofcourse if optimists don't want peace to happen then we don't have a chance do we ? LOL the other point is who's gonna fund it ? if optimists know ("WILL") then there's just no chance. The "Maharishi effect" has been demonstarted again and again again but human beings (eve the so called scientists) are unconcsious and bigotted at the best of times. Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:  Dear Jorge, Thanks for your post. Once their ring is in place, this will have statistical significance if there are no major and minor wars, economic prosperity globally and no natural/manmade disasters for the next 10 years. Otherwise, it's jumping the gun. I am not sure if they are causing such good events. I (and likely many others) foresaw the same on a global level, understanding the upcoming transits. If the economy is in a slump, start/engage in a war - this has been common in the US for the last century. Any macro economist will tell you this without astrology. This is just economic and seasonal cycle- common sense. However, every little bit helps and I am a firm believer in such practices to raise the global consciousness. We should all do our part to meditate or chant some japa and send out good thoughts and blessings to others on a global level. Permanent peace in kaliyuga will not happen and I am an optimist. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:05 PM FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) Dear List, Regarding the theme of ASTRAL REMEDIES FOR COUNTRIES, I would like to share what is claimed by Dr. John Hagelin. You may remember him if you have seen the movie that came up last March, THE SECRET OF CONSCIOUS CO-CREATION. Best wishes, Jorge PRESS RELEASE RESULTS FROM THE FIRST 75 DAYS OF THEINVINCIBLE AMERICA COURSE AT MAHARISHI UNIVERSITYOF MANAGEMENT IN FAIRFIELD, IOWA Stock Market Booms, Oil and Gas Prices Plummet,and No Hurricanes Hit U.S. Shores Largest Scientific Demonstration ProjectSaves the Nation $200 Billion So Far “America is being transformed by the rise of coherence in national consciousness created by the group of 1200 Yogic Flyers in Washington, D.C., and Iowa. As the number rises to 2000, any lingering problems will be quickly resolved.†—World-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin A surprisingly robust U.S. economy and a booming stock market, a successful U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon, and an unexpectedly benign hurricane season are among the clear signs of success of the first 75 days of the largest scientific demonstration project ever to monitor the effect of group Yogic Flying practice on the economic, social, and even climatic trends of the nation. This is the assessment of world-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin, director of the ongoing national demonstration project, which is being funded through a generous gift of $12 million a year by the “Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America.†Signs of Success Dr. Hagelin said that since the “Invincible America Course†began on July 23 with 1200 advanced Transcendental Meditation–Yogic Flying experts in Washington, D.C., and Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, national trends have improved dramatically, as publicly predicted by researchers before the course began: · A faltering U.S. economy has suddenly turned robust—led by a booming stock market, which pulled out from its downward spiral in mid-July and has since climbed nearly 1000 points, breaking all-time records · The price of oil, which peaked at $78 a barrel in mid-July, has plummeted more than 25% to below $58 a barrel—with gas prices dropping 25% as well · A surprisingly effective U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon has prevented a dangerous escalation of violence in the region · Dire predictions of a destructive Atlantic hurricane season have proven unfounded, as no hurricanes have struck U.S. shores this year “This dramatic transformation in national trends, which began with the start of the demonstration project, is no mere coincidence or anomaly,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This transformation is the direct result of the increased coherence in national consciousness created by the 1200 Yogic Flyers.â€According to Dr. Hagelin, the nation has saved at least $200 billion in hurricane costs (Katrina alone caused an estimated $150 billion in damages), with untold billions more added to the economy by the bullish stock market. Extensive published research confirms the benefits of the “Maharishi Effect†Dr. Hagelin cited prior research, published in leading, peer-reviewed scientific journals, which has documented reduced negative trends, including reduced crime and violence, and improved economic and social trends when as few as the square root of one percent of a population practice Yogic Flying together in a group. Scientists named this phenomenon the “Maharishi Effect†after His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogic, the renowned Vedic scholar who founded the Transcendental Meditation program, and who predicted the beneficial impact of group meditation on social trends as early as 1975. Creating the “Meissner Effect†for the nation Dr. Hagelin, who serves as President of the US Peace Government and Minister of Science and Technology of the Global Country of World Peace, said that group Yogic Flying practice creates the equivalent in society of the “Meissner Effect†of physics. “The Meissner Effect refers to the ability of a superconductor to spontaneously repel any disruptive influences, due to the coherent functioning of its atomic constituents,†Dr. Hagelin said. “The Meissner Effect explains how coherent national consciousness created by the Yogic Flyers can similarly repel any disruptive influence—terrorism, conflict, or even a hurricane—and prevent it from inflicting damage on the nation.†Group of 2000 Yogic Flyers needed to make the nation invincible Dr. Hagelin acknowledged that serious problems persist in the world, but said that as the number of Yogic Flyers in the U.S. reaches the square root of one percent of the U.S. population (about 2000), there will be an even more dramatic improvement in national trends, and any lingering problems will be quickly resolved. “This is not wishful thinking,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This is hard science that has been field-tested for over 50 years and documented through more than 600 studies conducted at over 250 independent universities and research institutes throughout the world.†Establishing a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe for permanent world peace Dr. Hagelin added that similar groups of Yogic Flyers are now being established in 39 more countries to create a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe and quickly raise the whole world to a state of permanent peace. 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Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Dear Iver, War is a form of peace. Truth is a multifacted gem. There are at least 7 different ways to look at any given level of truth. It is difficult to understand the ocean if we believe that we have only lived in a well. I keep my eye on the big picture that sastra has painted for this age and the events that have come to pass. I have no reason to doubt further occurences and degredation. Of course, we don't just join the kaliyuga party - do what you can to elevate and help out. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - del iver SAMVA Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:50 AM Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) >>Permanent peace in kaliyuga will not happen and I am an optimist That "will" (transitive verb) seems to have a finality about it. Ofcourse if optimists don't want peace to happen then we don't have a chance do we ? LOL the other point is who's gonna fund it ? if optimists know ("WILL") then there's just no chance. The "Maharishi effect" has been demonstarted again and again again but human beings (eve the so called scientists) are unconcsious and bigotted at the best of times. Vyas Munidas <munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) com> wrote:  Dear Jorge, Thanks for your post. Once their ring is in place, this will have statistical significance if there are no major and minor wars, economic prosperity globally and no natural/manmade disasters for the next 10 years. Otherwise, it's jumping the gun. I am not sure if they are causing such good events. I (and likely many others) foresaw the same on a global level, understanding the upcoming transits. If the economy is in a slump, start/engage in a war - this has been common in the US for the last century. Any macro economist will tell you this without astrology. This is just economic and seasonal cycle- common sense. However, every little bit helps and I am a firm believer in such practices to raise the global consciousness. We should all do our part to meditate or chant some japa and send out good thoughts and blessings to others on a global level. Permanent peace in kaliyuga will not happen and I am an optimist. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:05 PM FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) Dear List, Regarding the theme of ASTRAL REMEDIES FOR COUNTRIES, I would like to share what is claimed by Dr. John Hagelin. You may remember him if you have seen the movie that came up last March, THE SECRET OF CONSCIOUS CO-CREATION. Best wishes, Jorge PRESS RELEASE RESULTS FROM THE FIRST 75 DAYS OF THEINVINCIBLE AMERICA COURSE AT MAHARISHI UNIVERSITYOF MANAGEMENT IN FAIRFIELD, IOWA Stock Market Booms, Oil and Gas Prices Plummet,and No Hurricanes Hit U.S. Shores Largest Scientific Demonstration ProjectSaves the Nation $200 Billion So Far “America is being transformed by the rise of coherence in national consciousness created by the group of 1200 Yogic Flyers in Washington, D.C., and Iowa. As the number rises to 2000, any lingering problems will be quickly resolved.†—World-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin A surprisingly robust U.S. economy and a booming stock market, a successful U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon, and an unexpectedly benign hurricane season are among the clear signs of success of the first 75 days of the largest scientific demonstration project ever to monitor the effect of group Yogic Flying practice on the economic, social, and even climatic trends of the nation. This is the assessment of world-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin, director of the ongoing national demonstration project, which is being funded through a generous gift of $12 million a year by the “Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America.†Signs of Success Dr. Hagelin said that since the “Invincible America Course†began on July 23 with 1200 advanced Transcendental Meditation–Yogic Flying experts in Washington, D.C., and Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, national trends have improved dramatically, as publicly predicted by researchers before the course began: · A faltering U.S. economy has suddenly turned robust—led by a booming stock market, which pulled out from its downward spiral in mid-July and has since climbed nearly 1000 points, breaking all-time records · The price of oil, which peaked at $78 a barrel in mid-July, has plummeted more than 25% to below $58 a barrel—with gas prices dropping 25% as well · A surprisingly effective U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon has prevented a dangerous escalation of violence in the region · Dire predictions of a destructive Atlantic hurricane season have proven unfounded, as no hurricanes have struck U.S. shores this year “This dramatic transformation in national trends, which began with the start of the demonstration project, is no mere coincidence or anomaly,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This transformation is the direct result of the increased coherence in national consciousness created by the 1200 Yogic Flyers.â€According to Dr. Hagelin, the nation has saved at least $200 billion in hurricane costs (Katrina alone caused an estimated $150 billion in damages), with untold billions more added to the economy by the bullish stock market. Extensive published research confirms the benefits of the “Maharishi Effect†Dr. Hagelin cited prior research, published in leading, peer-reviewed scientific journals, which has documented reduced negative trends, including reduced crime and violence, and improved economic and social trends when as few as the square root of one percent of a population practice Yogic Flying together in a group. Scientists named this phenomenon the “Maharishi Effect†after His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogic, the renowned Vedic scholar who founded the Transcendental Meditation program, and who predicted the beneficial impact of group meditation on social trends as early as 1975. Creating the “Meissner Effect†for the nation Dr. Hagelin, who serves as President of the US Peace Government and Minister of Science and Technology of the Global Country of World Peace, said that group Yogic Flying practice creates the equivalent in society of the “Meissner Effect†of physics. “The Meissner Effect refers to the ability of a superconductor to spontaneously repel any disruptive influences, due to the coherent functioning of its atomic constituents,†Dr. Hagelin said. “The Meissner Effect explains how coherent national consciousness created by the Yogic Flyers can similarly repel any disruptive influence—terrorism, conflict, or even a hurricane—and prevent it from inflicting damage on the nation.†Group of 2000 Yogic Flyers needed to make the nation invincible Dr. Hagelin acknowledged that serious problems persist in the world, but said that as the number of Yogic Flyers in the U.S. reaches the square root of one percent of the U.S. population (about 2000), there will be an even more dramatic improvement in national trends, and any lingering problems will be quickly resolved. “This is not wishful thinking,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This is hard science that has been field-tested for over 50 years and documented through more than 600 studies conducted at over 250 independent universities and research institutes throughout the world.†Establishing a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe for permanent world peace Dr. Hagelin added that similar groups of Yogic Flyers are now being established in 39 more countries to create a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe and quickly raise the whole world to a state of permanent peace. 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Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Dear Vyas, I just wanted the list to be aware of the kind of events that are going on all over the world. It would also be good to know about these 39 countries and see if things are happening in accord with their rectified charts or not. Even the fact of having these groups creating coherence now must be visible in their rectified charts, I think. Let us look to the US rectified chart: From http://www.invincibleamerica.org/mvc_photos.html it seems the course started on July 22, 2006, in US. Operational dasha on July 22, 2006: Ve/Sa/Mo/Ve/Ma D1 and D9 have the same lagna (vargottama). Saturn (yoga, meditation), L4 (mind, supporters, the MBP), and the Moon (mind, caring nature), L9 (fortune, support of Nature), are the spiritual planets for the country, together with the FB Sun, FB Jupiter and Ketu. As the country is vargottama, the role of all these planets is reinforced regarding H9 matters. Transit Venus is placed in Leo, unafflicting and unafflicted. Its dispositor, the Sun, conjoins transit Saturn in H9, almost exactly over natal Mercury, L11, and in mutual aspect with natal Moon, L9. Natal Venus, L12 (ashram, enlightenment), is placed in H8 (yoga, meditation, transformations). In D9, Venus is placed in H2 (gains). Natal Saturn is under the influence of transit Ketu, and transit Jupiter over MEP11. Natal Ketu is in H3 (spiritual initiation), and natal Jupiter is in H8 (yoga, meditation). Transit Saturn is exactly conjunct with transit Sun in H9. Both are under the influence of natal Moon, L9, natal retrograde Mercury, L11, and transit Mars (action, H3 karaka). In D9, Saturn aspects its own MT house, conjoins Mercury in H10 and is aspected by Jupiter from H4. Transit Moon is aspected by natal Ketu, transit Ketu and transit Jupiter. Natal Moon, being placed in H3 (spiritual initiation) under the aspect of natal Mercury, L11 in H9, is aspected by transit Saturn and transit Sun in H9. In D9, the Moon is well placed in H5, and under the influence of Mars and Rahu. Transit Mars is in its own MT house, unafflicted. In D9, Mars is in H11, aspected by the Moon and Ketu. So its influence over transit Saturn, transit Sun and natal Mercury brings also some gains of spiritual nature, we can say. Natal Mercury is in H9, transit Mercury is in H9. In D9, Mercury conjoins Saturn in H10 and is aspected by Jupiter from H4. So its influence over transit Saturn and transit Sun was also of a spiritual nature. Even though being a post event analysis, it makes us to think as the potential for this kind of event was present in the US rectified chart. If the list members want to know more about these kind of creating coherence events, they may like to see also: What the Bleep Do We Know!?: Quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin appeared in this movie. Read a short summary of his experiment using Invincible Defense Technology to reduce crime in Washington D.C. http://www.invinciblemilitary.org/    I have been helping in Mozambique in 1990, teaching TM to the Army and to about 1500 civilians in Maputo, and I must tell you that the influence of coherence in the city and in the country, according with my inner feelings, was fantastic. If it was due to this or not, what is true is that peace came very soon after that event. However, I strongly believe that THINGS JUST HAPPEN, and we are the instruments that Mother Nature uses to make them happen. That is our co-creative role. The more conscious of this we are the better is our role on creating peace, I think. No one can go to the past to make a new beginning, but everyone can begin now to make a better future. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidas domingo, 15 de Outubro de 2006 02:43 SAMVA Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries)   Dear Jorge, Thanks for your post. Once their ring is in place, this will have statistical significance if there are no major and minor wars, economic prosperity globally and no natural/manmade disasters for the next 10 years. Otherwise, it's jumping the gun. I am not sure if they are causing such good events. I (and likely many others) foresaw the same on a global level, understanding the upcoming transits. If the economy is in a slump, start/engage in a war - this has been common in the US for the last century. Any macro economist will tell you this without astrology. This is just economic and seasonal cycle- common sense. However, every little bit helps and I am a firm believer in such practices to raise the global consciousness. We should all do our part to meditate or chant some japa and send out good thoughts and blessings to others on a global level. Permanent peace in kaliyuga will not happen and I am an optimist. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:05 PM FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) Dear List, Regarding the theme of ASTRAL REMEDIES FOR COUNTRIES, I would like to share what is claimed by Dr. John Hagelin. You may remember him if you have seen the movie that came up last March, THE SECRET OF CONSCIOUS CO-CREATION. Best wishes, Jorge PRESS RELEASE RESULTS FROM THE FIRST 75 DAYS OF THE INVINCIBLE AMERICA COURSE AT MAHARISHI UNIVERSITY OF MANAGEMENT IN FAIRFIELD, IOWA Stock Market Booms, Oil and Gas Prices Plummet, and No Hurricanes Hit U.S. Shores Largest Scientific Demonstration Project Saves the Nation $200 Billion So Far “America is being transformed by the rise of coherence in national consciousness created by the group of 1200 Yogic Flyers in Washington, D.C., and Iowa. As the number rises to 2000, any lingering problems will be quickly resolved.†—World-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin A surprisingly robust U.S. economy and a booming stock market, a successful U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon, and an unexpectedly benign hurricane season are among the clear signs of success of the first 75 days of the largest scientific demonstration project ever to monitor the effect of group Yogic Flying practice on the economic, social, and even climatic trends of the nation. This is the assessment of world-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin, director of the ongoing national demonstration project, which is being funded through a generous gift of $12 million a year by the “Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America.†Signs of Success Dr. Hagelin said that since the “Invincible America Course†began on July 23 with 1200 advanced Transcendental Meditation–Yogic Flying experts in Washington, D.C., and Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, national trends have improved dramatically, as publicly predicted by researchers before the course began: · A faltering U.S. economy has suddenly turned robust—led by a booming stock market, which pulled out from its downward spiral in mid-July and has since climbed nearly 1000 points, breaking all-time records · The price of oil, which peaked at $78 a barrel in mid-July, has plummeted more than 25% to below $58 a barrel—with gas prices dropping 25% as well · A surprisingly effective U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon has prevented a dangerous escalation of violence in the region · Dire predictions of a destructive Atlantic hurricane season have proven unfounded, as no hurricanes have struck U.S. shores this year “This dramatic transformation in national trends, which began with the start of the demonstration project, is no mere coincidence or anomaly,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This transformation is the direct result of the increased coherence in national consciousness created by the 1200 Yogic Flyers.†According to Dr. Hagelin, the nation has saved at least $200 billion in hurricane costs (Katrina alone caused an estimated $150 billion in damages), with untold billions more added to the economy by the bullish stock market. Extensive published research confirms the benefits of the “Maharishi Effect†Dr. Hagelin cited prior research, published in leading, peer-reviewed scientific journals, which has documented reduced negative trends, including reduced crime and violence, and improved economic and social trends when as few as the square root of one percent of a population practice Yogic Flying together in a group. Scientists named this phenomenon the “Maharishi Effect†after His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogic, the renowned Vedic scholar who founded the Transcendental Meditation program, and who predicted the beneficial impact of group meditation on social trends as early as 1975. Creating the “Meissner Effect†for the nation Dr. Hagelin, who serves as President of the US Peace Government and Minister of Science and Technology of the Global Country of World Peace, said that group Yogic Flying practice creates the equivalent in society of the “Meissner Effect†of physics. “The Meissner Effect refers to the ability of a superconductor to spontaneously repel any disruptive influences, due to the coherent functioning of its atomic constituents,†Dr. Hagelin said. “The Meissner Effect explains how coherent national consciousness created by the Yogic Flyers can similarly repel any disruptive influence—terrorism, conflict, or even a hurricane—and prevent it from inflicting damage on the nation.†Group of 2000 Yogic Flyers needed to make the nation invincible Dr. Hagelin acknowledged that serious problems persist in the world, but said that as the number of Yogic Flyers in the U.S. reaches the square root of one percent of the U.S. population (about 2000), there will be an even more dramatic improvement in national trends, and any lingering problems will be quickly resolved. “This is not wishful thinking,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This is hard science that has been field-tested for over 50 years and documented through more than 600 studies conducted at over 250 independent universities and research institutes throughout the world.†Establishing a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe for permanent world peace Dr. Hagelin added that similar groups of Yogic Flyers are now being established in 39 more countries to create a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe and quickly raise the whole world to a state of permanent peace. -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release 14.10.2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 >>War is a form of peace >>big picture that sastra has painted for this age Are you by any chance in politics ! sorry mate. this is all beyond my comprehension. this is parallel to the crooks who claim all innocence. they meant no harm. they just hacked someone even to death. but they meant no harm. they only wanted the victims possesions ( money, dignity, chastity) I'm a simple soul so no convoluted "shatsra" or any religious bs. No arguments but sanity tells me there's always our intelligence which we can twist as much as we want. Sorry cant take it any further. this is all beyond me. "War is a form of peace" wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my case rested. Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Iver, War is a form of peace. Truth is a multifacted gem. There are at least 7 different ways to look at any given level of truth. It is difficult to understand the ocean if we believe that we have only lived in a well. I keep my eye on the big picture that sastra has painted for this age and the events that have come to pass. I have no reason to doubt further occurences and degredation. Of course, we don't just join the kaliyuga party - do what you can to elevate and help out. Best regards, Vyas Munidas Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Thanks Jorge, Cocreation is simply a reality that operates at all times. It's the conscious part that is being stimulated here. Aloha, SallyOn 10/14/06, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Dear List, Regarding the theme of ASTRAL REMEDIES FOR COUNTRIES, I would like to share what is claimed by Dr. John Hagelin. You may remember him if you have seen the movie that came up last March, THE SECRET OF CONSCIOUS CO-CREATION. Best wishes, Jorge PRESS RELEASE RESULTS FROM THE FIRST 75 DAYS OF THE INVINCIBLE AMERICA COURSE AT MAHARISHI UNIVERSITY OF MANAGEMENT IN FAIRFIELD , IOWA Stock Market Booms, Oil and Gas Prices Plummet, and No Hurricanes Hit U.S. Shores Largest Scientific Demonstration Project Saves the Nation $200 Billion So Far "America is being transformed by the rise of coherence in national consciousness created by the group of 1200 Yogic Flyers in Washington, D.C., and Iowa .. As the number rises to 2000, any lingering problems will be quickly resolved." —World-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin A surprisingly robust U.S. economy and a booming stock market, a successful U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon, and an unexpectedly benign hurricane season are among the clear signs of success of the first 75 days of the largest scientific demonstration project ever to monitor the effect of group Yogic Flying practice on the economic, social, and even climatic trends of the nation. This is the assessment of world-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin, director of the ongoing national demonstration project, which is being funded through a generous gift of $12 million a year by the "Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America." Signs of Success Dr. Hagelin said that since the "Invincible America Course" began on July 23 with 1200 advanced Transcendental Meditation–Yogic Flying experts in Washington , D.C. , and Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, national trends have improved dramatically, as publicly predicted by researchers before the course began: · A faltering U.S. economy has suddenly turned robust—led by a booming stock market, which pulled out from its downward spiral in mid-July and has since climbed nearly 1000 points, breaking all-time records · The price of oil, which peaked at $78 a barrel in mid-July, has plummeted more than 25% to below $58 a barrel—with gas prices dropping 25% as well · A surprisingly effective U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon has prevented a dangerous escalation of violence in the region · Dire predictions of a destructive Atlantic hurricane season have proven unfounded, as no hurricanes have struck U.S. shores this year "This dramatic transformation in national trends, which began with the start of the demonstration project, is no mere coincidence or anomaly," Dr. Hagelin said. "This transformation is the direct result of the increased coherence in national consciousness created by the 1200 Yogic Flyers." According to Dr. Hagelin, the nation has saved at least $200 billion in hurricane costs (Katrina alone caused an estimated $150 billion in damages), with untold billions more added to the economy by the bullish stock market. Extensive published research confirms the benefits of the "Maharishi Effect" Dr. Hagelin cited prior research, published in leading, peer-reviewed scientific journals, which has documented reduced negative trends, including reduced crime and violence, and improved economic and social trends when as few as the square root of one percent of a population practice Yogic Flying together in a group. Scientists named this phenomenon the "Maharishi Effect" after His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogic, the renowned Vedic scholar who founded the Transcendental Meditation program, and who predicted the beneficial impact of group meditation on social trends as early as 1975. Creating the "Meissner Effect" for the nation Dr. Hagelin, who serves as President of the US Peace Government and Minister of Science and Technology of the Global Country of World Peace, said that group Yogic Flying practice creates the equivalent in society of the "Meissner Effect" of physics. "The Meissner Effect refers to the ability of a superconductor to spontaneously repel any disruptive influences, due to the coherent functioning of its atomic constituents," Dr. Hagelin said. "The Meissner Effect explains how coherent national consciousness created by the Yogic Flyers can similarly repel any disruptive influence—terrorism, conflict, or even a hurricane—and prevent it from inflicting damage on the nation." Group of 2000 Yogic Flyers needed to make the nation invincible Dr. Hagelin acknowledged that serious problems persist in the world, but said that as the number of Yogic Flyers in the U.S. reaches the square root of one percent of the U.S. population (about 2000), there will be an even more dramatic improvement in national trends, and any lingering problems will be quickly resolved. "This is not wishful thinking," Dr. Hagelin said. "This is hard science that has been field-tested for over 50 years and documented through more than 600 studies conducted at over 250 independent universities and research institutes throughout the world." Establishing a "Ring of Invincibility" around the globe for permanent world peace Dr. Hagelin added that similar groups of Yogic Flyers are now being established in 39 more countries to create a "Ring of Invincibility" around the globe and quickly raise the whole world to a state of permanent peace. -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 -- Sally Spencer, Jyotish KovidA Gentle Journey to Deep Healing Ascension work, Vedic Astrology,Western Astrology reports www.Devi3.byregion.netsally234@... Deep self healing By phone or in person. Vedic Astrology, a cocreative sacred science used to strengthen or propitiate planetary intelligences (grahas). 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Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Dear Iver, Indeed. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - del iver SAMVA Sunday, October 15, 2006 5:36 AM Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) >>War is a form of peace >>big picture that sastra has painted for this age Are you by any chance in politics ! sorry mate. this is all beyond my comprehension. this is parallel to the crooks who claim all innocence. they meant no harm. they just hacked someone even to death. but they meant no harm. they only wanted the victims possesions ( money, dignity, chastity) I'm a simple soul so no convoluted "shatsra" or any religious bs. No arguments but sanity tells me there's always our intelligence which we can twist as much as we want. Sorry cant take it any further. this is all beyond me. "War is a form of peace" wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my case rested. Vyas Munidas <munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Iver, War is a form of peace. Truth is a multifacted gem. There are at least 7 different ways to look at any given level of truth. It is difficult to understand the ocean if we believe that we have only lived in a well. I keep my eye on the big picture that sastra has painted for this age and the events that have come to pass. I have no reason to doubt further occurences and degredation. Of course, we don't just join the kaliyuga party - do what you can to elevate and help out. Best regards, Vyas Munidas Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006  Dear Jorge, Please don't misunderstand my reply. I was merely pointing out the aspect of statistical significance. Ever so often there is a resurgance in similar practices to help humanity, each claiming that they are more powerful than the previous. The effectiveness can only be seen over time against such claims. If one man is seeing better things through economic cycles and astrology, and another says he's creating it, then... well you know the conclusion. Only when the astrology and the economic cycles absolutely fail to forecast negative results in a baffling manner can such claims be taken seriously. That said, I am a firm believer in such activities. I've discussed some of my practices with you. That's a fantastic point about such events being present in the natal charts. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, October 15, 2006 4:16 AM RE: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) Dear Vyas, I just wanted the list to be aware of the kind of events that are going on all over the world. It would also be good to know about these 39 countries and see if things are happening in accord with their rectified charts or not. Even the fact of having these groups creating coherence now must be visible in their rectified charts, I think. Let us look to the US rectified chart: From http://www.invincibleamerica.org/mvc_photos.html it seems the course started on July 22, 2006, in US. Operational dasha on July 22, 2006: Ve/Sa/Mo/Ve/Ma D1 and D9 have the same lagna (vargottama). Saturn (yoga, meditation), L4 (mind, supporters, the MBP), and the Moon (mind, caring nature), L9 (fortune, support of Nature), are the spiritual planets for the country, together with the FB Sun, FB Jupiter and Ketu. As the country is vargottama, the role of all these planets is reinforced regarding H9 matters. Transit Venus is placed in Leo, unafflicting and unafflicted. Its dispositor, the Sun, conjoins transit Saturn in H9, almost exactly over natal Mercury, L11, and in mutual aspect with natal Moon, L9. Natal Venus, L12 (ashram, enlightenment), is placed in H8 (yoga, meditation, transformations). In D9, Venus is placed in H2 (gains). Natal Saturn is under the influence of transit Ketu, and transit Jupiter over MEP11. Natal Ketu is in H3 (spiritual initiation), and natal Jupiter is in H8 (yoga, meditation). Transit Saturn is exactly conjunct with transit Sun in H9. Both are under the influence of natal Moon, L9, natal retrograde Mercury, L11, and transit Mars (action, H3 karaka). In D9, Saturn aspects its own MT house, conjoins Mercury in H10 and is aspected by Jupiter from H4. Transit Moon is aspected by natal Ketu, transit Ketu and transit Jupiter. Natal Moon, being placed in H3 (spiritual initiation) under the aspect of natal Mercury, L11 in H9, is aspected by transit Saturn and transit Sun in H9. In D9, the Moon is well placed in H5, and under the influence of Mars and Rahu. Transit Mars is in its own MT house, unafflicted. In D9, Mars is in H11, aspected by the Moon and Ketu. So its influence over transit Saturn, transit Sun and natal Mercury brings also some gains of spiritual nature, we can say. Natal Mercury is in H9, transit Mercury is in H9. In D9, Mercury conjoins Saturn in H10 and is aspected by Jupiter from H4. So its influence over transit Saturn and transit Sun was also of a spiritual nature. Even though being a post event analysis, it makes us to think as the potential for this kind of event was present in the US rectified chart. If the list members want to know more about these kind of creating coherence events, they may like to see also: What the Bleep Do We Know!?: Quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin appeared in this movie. Read a short summary of his experiment using Invincible Defense Technology to reduce crime in Washington D.C. http://www.invinciblemilitary.org/ I have been helping in Mozambique in 1990, teaching TM to the Army and to about 1500 civilians in Maputo, and I must tell you that the influence of coherence in the city and in the country, according with my inner feelings, was fantastic. If it was due to this or not, what is true is that peace came very soon after that event. However, I strongly believe that THINGS JUST HAPPEN, and we are the instruments that Mother Nature uses to make them happen. That is our co-creative role. The more conscious of this we are the better is our role on creating peace, I think. No one can go to the past to make a new beginning, but everyone can begin now to make a better future. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidasdomingo, 15 de Outubro de 2006 02:43SAMVA Subject: Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries)  Dear Jorge, Thanks for your post. Once their ring is in place, this will have statistical significance if there are no major and minor wars, economic prosperity globally and no natural/manmade disasters for the next 10 years. Otherwise, it's jumping the gun. I am not sure if they are causing such good events. I (and likely many others) foresaw the same on a global level, understanding the upcoming transits. If the economy is in a slump, start/engage in a war - this has been common in the US for the last century. Any macro economist will tell you this without astrology. This is just economic and seasonal cycle- common sense. However, every little bit helps and I am a firm believer in such practices to raise the global consciousness. We should all do our part to meditate or chant some japa and send out good thoughts and blessings to others on a global level. Permanent peace in kaliyuga will not happen and I am an optimist. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:05 PM FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) Dear List, Regarding the theme of ASTRAL REMEDIES FOR COUNTRIES, I would like to share what is claimed by Dr. John Hagelin. You may remember him if you have seen the movie that came up last March, THE SECRET OF CONSCIOUS CO-CREATION. Best wishes, Jorge PRESS RELEASE RESULTS FROM THE FIRST 75 DAYS OF THEINVINCIBLE AMERICA COURSE AT MAHARISHI UNIVERSITYOF MANAGEMENT IN FAIRFIELD, IOWA Stock Market Booms, Oil and Gas Prices Plummet,and No Hurricanes Hit U.S. Shores Largest Scientific Demonstration ProjectSaves the Nation $200 Billion So Far “America is being transformed by the rise of coherence in national consciousness created by the group of 1200 Yogic Flyers in Washington, D.C., and Iowa. As the number rises to 2000, any lingering problems will be quickly resolved.†—World-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin A surprisingly robust U.S. economy and a booming stock market, a successful U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon, and an unexpectedly benign hurricane season are among the clear signs of success of the first 75 days of the largest scientific demonstration project ever to monitor the effect of group Yogic Flying practice on the economic, social, and even climatic trends of the nation. This is the assessment of world-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin, director of the ongoing national demonstration project, which is being funded through a generous gift of $12 million a year by the “Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America.†Signs of Success Dr. Hagelin said that since the “Invincible America Course†began on July 23 with 1200 advanced Transcendental Meditation–Yogic Flying experts in Washington, D.C., and Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, national trends have improved dramatically, as publicly predicted by researchers before the course began: · A faltering U.S. economy has suddenly turned robust—led by a booming stock market, which pulled out from its downward spiral in mid-July and has since climbed nearly 1000 points, breaking all-time records · The price of oil, which peaked at $78 a barrel in mid-July, has plummeted more than 25% to below $58 a barrel—with gas prices dropping 25% as well · A surprisingly effective U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon has prevented a dangerous escalation of violence in the region · Dire predictions of a destructive Atlantic hurricane season have proven unfounded, as no hurricanes have struck U.S. shores this year “This dramatic transformation in national trends, which began with the start of the demonstration project, is no mere coincidence or anomaly,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This transformation is the direct result of the increased coherence in national consciousness created by the 1200 Yogic Flyers.â€According to Dr. Hagelin, the nation has saved at least $200 billion in hurricane costs (Katrina alone caused an estimated $150 billion in damages), with untold billions more added to the economy by the bullish stock market. Extensive published research confirms the benefits of the “Maharishi Effect†Dr. Hagelin cited prior research, published in leading, peer-reviewed scientific journals, which has documented reduced negative trends, including reduced crime and violence, and improved economic and social trends when as few as the square root of one percent of a population practice Yogic Flying together in a group. Scientists named this phenomenon the “Maharishi Effect†after His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogic, the renowned Vedic scholar who founded the Transcendental Meditation program, and who predicted the beneficial impact of group meditation on social trends as early as 1975. Creating the “Meissner Effect†for the nation Dr. Hagelin, who serves as President of the US Peace Government and Minister of Science and Technology of the Global Country of World Peace, said that group Yogic Flying practice creates the equivalent in society of the “Meissner Effect†of physics. “The Meissner Effect refers to the ability of a superconductor to spontaneously repel any disruptive influences, due to the coherent functioning of its atomic constituents,†Dr. Hagelin said. “The Meissner Effect explains how coherent national consciousness created by the Yogic Flyers can similarly repel any disruptive influence—terrorism, conflict, or even a hurricane—and prevent it from inflicting damage on the nation.†Group of 2000 Yogic Flyers needed to make the nation invincible Dr. Hagelin acknowledged that serious problems persist in the world, but said that as the number of Yogic Flyers in the U.S. reaches the square root of one percent of the U.S. population (about 2000), there will be an even more dramatic improvement in national trends, and any lingering problems will be quickly resolved. “This is not wishful thinking,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This is hard science that has been field-tested for over 50 years and documented through more than 600 studies conducted at over 250 independent universities and research institutes throughout the world.†Establishing a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe for permanent world peace Dr. Hagelin added that similar groups of Yogic Flyers are now being established in 39 more countries to create a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe and quickly raise the whole world to a state of permanent peace. --Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 --Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 --Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 --Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release 14.10.2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Both views are " truths " like all religious stuff out there: " War is a form of peace " - OFCOURSE - current version - The Islamic Jihad. (Though I wouldn't want anymore versions please) Non-violence as a form of war - The Mahatma Gandhi's approach but I would call that as a form of peace rather than war. cheers prem PS: saw at the Theosophical Society: Satyan nashti parodharma - there's no religion higher than truth. SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Dear Iver, > > Indeed. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > del iver > SAMVA > Sunday, October 15, 2006 5:36 AM > Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) > > > > >>War is a form of peace > >>big picture that sastra has painted for this age > > Are you by any chance in politics ! > sorry mate. > this is all beyond my comprehension. this is parallel to the crooks who claim all innocence. they meant no harm. they just hacked someone even to death. but they meant no harm. they only wanted the victims possesions ( money, dignity, chastity) > > I'm a simple soul so no convoluted " shatsra " or any religious bs. No arguments but sanity tells me there's always our intelligence which we can twist as much as we want. > > Sorry cant take it any further. this is all beyond me. > " War is a form of peace " wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > my case rested. > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Iver, > > War is a form of peace. Truth is a multifacted gem. There are at least 7 different ways to look at any given level of truth. It is difficult to understand the ocean if we believe that we have only lived in a well. > > I keep my eye on the big picture that sastra has painted for this age and the events that have come to pass. I have no reason to doubt further occurences and degredation. Of course, we don't just join the kaliyuga party - do what you can to elevate and help out. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 We've really strayed off SA focus here, so I'll revert separately. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - Prem SAMVA Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:45 PM Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) Both views are "truths" like all religious stuff out there:"War is a form of peace" - OFCOURSE - current version - The Islamic Jihad. (Though I wouldn't want anymore versions please)Non-violence as a form of war - The Mahatma Gandhi's approach but I would call that as a form of peace rather than war.cheerspremPS: saw at the Theosophical Society: Satyan nashti parodharma - there's no religion higher than truth.SAMVA , "Vyas Munidas" <muni> wrote:>> Dear Iver,> > Indeed.> > > Best regards,> > Vyas Munidas> > > - > del iver > SAMVA > Sunday, October 15, 2006 5:36 AM> Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries)> > > > >>War is a form of peace> >>big picture that sastra has painted for this age > > Are you by any chance in politics !> sorry mate.> this is all beyond my comprehension. this is parallel to the crooks who claim all innocence. they meant no harm. they just hacked someone even to death. but they meant no harm. they only wanted the victims possesions ( money, dignity, chastity)> > I'm a simple soul so no convoluted "shatsra" or any religious bs. No arguments but sanity tells me there's always our intelligence which we can twist as much as we want.> > Sorry cant take it any further. this is all beyond me. > "War is a form of peace" wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!> my case rested.> > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:> Dear Iver,> > War is a form of peace. Truth is a multifacted gem. There are at least 7 different ways to look at any given level of truth. It is difficult to understand the ocean if we believe that we have only lived in a well. > > I keep my eye on the big picture that sastra has painted for this age and the events that have come to pass. I have no reason to doubt further occurences and degredation. Of course, we don't just join the kaliyuga party - do what you can to elevate and help out. > > > Best regards,> > Vyas Munidas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Earth plane is simply a middle zone between good and bad. Heaven sends the enlightened beings to battle the darkness. As they battle, souls are here as part of the struggle to learn. Doubtful if there will ever be peace but that does not mean we don't try. Just part of the play. Otherwise, one doesn't learn for the future. SAMVA , " Prem " <skiwoka wrote: > > > Both views are " truths " like all religious stuff out there: > > " War is a form of peace " - OFCOURSE - current version - The Islamic > Jihad. > > (Though I wouldn't want anymore versions please) > > Non-violence as a form of war - The Mahatma Gandhi's approach but I > would call that as a form of peace rather than war. > > cheers > prem > > PS: saw at the Theosophical Society: Satyan nashti parodharma - > there's no religion higher than truth. > > > > SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <munidas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Iver, > > > > Indeed. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > del iver > > SAMVA > > Sunday, October 15, 2006 5:36 AM > > Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A > Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) > > > > > > > > >>War is a form of peace > > >>big picture that sastra has painted for this age > > > > Are you by any chance in politics ! > > sorry mate. > > this is all beyond my comprehension. this is parallel to the > crooks who claim all innocence. they meant no harm. they just hacked > someone even to death. but they meant no harm. they only wanted the > victims possesions ( money, dignity, chastity) > > > > I'm a simple soul so no convoluted " shatsra " or any religious > bs. No arguments but sanity tells me there's always our intelligence > which we can twist as much as we want. > > > > Sorry cant take it any further. this is all beyond me. > > " War is a form of peace " > wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > my case rested. > > > > Vyas Munidas <munidas@> wrote: > > Dear Iver, > > > > War is a form of peace. Truth is a multifacted gem. There are > at least 7 different ways to look at any given level of truth. It is > difficult to understand the ocean if we believe that we have only > lived in a well. > > > > I keep my eye on the big picture that sastra has painted for > this age and the events that have come to pass. I have no reason to > doubt further occurences and degredation. Of course, we don't just > join the kaliyuga party - do what you can to elevate and help out. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Dear List, Talking about the " Truths " ; the highest Truth is reality distingueshed from illusion for the welfare of all. Best wishes...............Amar Puri. > " Prem " <skiwoka >SAMVA >SAMVA > Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress >Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) >Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:45:27 -0000 > > >Both views are " truths " like all religious stuff out there: > > " War is a form of peace " - OFCOURSE - current version - The Islamic >Jihad. > >(Though I wouldn't want anymore versions please) > >Non-violence as a form of war - The Mahatma Gandhi's approach but I >would call that as a form of peace rather than war. > >cheers >prem > >PS: saw at the Theosophical Society: Satyan nashti parodharma - >there's no religion higher than truth. > > > >SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > > > Dear Iver, > > > > Indeed. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > del iver > > SAMVA > > Sunday, October 15, 2006 5:36 AM > > Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A >Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) > > > > > > > > >>War is a form of peace > > >>big picture that sastra has painted for this age > > > > Are you by any chance in politics ! > > sorry mate. > > this is all beyond my comprehension. this is parallel to the >crooks who claim all innocence. they meant no harm. they just hacked >someone even to death. but they meant no harm. they only wanted the >victims possesions ( money, dignity, chastity) > > > > I'm a simple soul so no convoluted " shatsra " or any religious >bs. No arguments but sanity tells me there's always our intelligence >which we can twist as much as we want. > > > > Sorry cant take it any further. this is all beyond me. > > " War is a form of peace " >wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > my case rested. > > > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > > Dear Iver, > > > > War is a form of peace. Truth is a multifacted gem. There are >at least 7 different ways to look at any given level of truth. It is >difficult to understand the ocean if we believe that we have only >lived in a well. > > > > I keep my eye on the big picture that sastra has painted for >this age and the events that have come to pass. I have no reason to >doubt further occurences and degredation. Of course, we don't just >join the kaliyuga party - do what you can to elevate and help out. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Dear Vyas, I understand you…and also the others. Knowledge is different in different states of consciousness, and that does not mean that one knowledge is better than the other one. They are just different, that’s all. The highest truth can only be understood through the silence. No words are needed… My first email was really only to point out that this kind of events also comes up in the chart. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidas domingo, 15 de Outubro de 2006 17:12 SAMVA Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries)   Dear Jorge, Please don't misunderstand my reply. I was merely pointing out the aspect of statistical significance. Ever so often there is a resurgance in similar practices to help humanity, each claiming that they are more powerful than the previous. The effectiveness can only be seen over time against such claims. If one man is seeing better things through economic cycles and astrology, and another says he's creating it, then... well you know the conclusion. Only when the astrology and the economic cycles absolutely fail to forecast negative results in a baffling manner can such claims be taken seriously. That said, I am a firm believer in such activities. I've discussed some of my practices with you. That's a fantastic point about such events being present in the natal charts. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, October 15, 2006 4:16 AM RE: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) Dear Vyas, I just wanted the list to be aware of the kind of events that are going on all over the world. It would also be good to know about these 39 countries and see if things are happening in accord with their rectified charts or not. Even the fact of having these groups creating coherence now must be visible in their rectified charts, I think. Let us look to the US rectified chart: From http://www.invincibleamerica.org/mvc_photos.html it seems the course started on July 22, 2006, in US. Operational dasha on July 22, 2006: Ve/Sa/Mo/Ve/Ma D1 and D9 have the same lagna (vargottama). Saturn (yoga, meditation), L4 (mind, supporters, the MBP), and the Moon (mind, caring nature), L9 (fortune, support of Nature), are the spiritual planets for the country, together with the FB Sun, FB Jupiter and Ketu. As the country is vargottama, the role of all these planets is reinforced regarding H9 matters. Transit Venus is placed in Leo, unafflicting and unafflicted. Its dispositor, the Sun, conjoins transit Saturn in H9, almost exactly over natal Mercury, L11, and in mutual aspect with natal Moon, L9. Natal Venus, L12 (ashram, enlightenment), is placed in H8 (yoga, meditation, transformations). In D9, Venus is placed in H2 (gains). Natal Saturn is under the influence of transit Ketu, and transit Jupiter over MEP11. Natal Ketu is in H3 (spiritual initiation), and natal Jupiter is in H8 (yoga, meditation). Transit Saturn is exactly conjunct with transit Sun in H9. Both are under the influence of natal Moon, L9, natal retrograde Mercury, L11, and transit Mars (action, H3 karaka). In D9, Saturn aspects its own MT house, conjoins Mercury in H10 and is aspected by Jupiter from H4. Transit Moon is aspected by natal Ketu, transit Ketu and transit Jupiter. Natal Moon, being placed in H3 (spiritual initiation) under the aspect of natal Mercury, L11 in H9, is aspected by transit Saturn and transit Sun in H9. In D9, the Moon is well placed in H5, and under the influence of Mars and Rahu. Transit Mars is in its own MT house, unafflicted. In D9, Mars is in H11, aspected by the Moon and Ketu. So its influence over transit Saturn, transit Sun and natal Mercury brings also some gains of spiritual nature, we can say. Natal Mercury is in H9, transit Mercury is in H9. In D9, Mercury conjoins Saturn in H10 and is aspected by Jupiter from H4. So its influence over transit Saturn and transit Sun was also of a spiritual nature. Even though being a post event analysis, it makes us to think as the potential for this kind of event was present in the US rectified chart. If the list members want to know more about these kind of creating coherence events, they may like to see also: What the Bleep Do We Know!?: Quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin appeared in this movie. Read a short summary of his experiment using Invincible Defense Technology to reduce crime in Washington D.C. http://www.invinciblemilitary.org/ I have been helping in Mozambique in 1990, teaching TM to the Army and to about 1500 civilians in Maputo, and I must tell you that the influence of coherence in the city and in the country, according with my inner feelings, was fantastic. If it was due to this or not, what is true is that peace came very soon after that event. However, I strongly believe that THINGS JUST HAPPEN, and we are the instruments that Mother Nature uses to make them happen. That is our co-creative role. The more conscious of this we are the better is our role on creating peace, I think. No one can go to the past to make a new beginning, but everyone can begin now to make a better future. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidas domingo, 15 de Outubro de 2006 02:43 SAMVA Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries)  Dear Jorge, Thanks for your post. Once their ring is in place, this will have statistical significance if there are no major and minor wars, economic prosperity globally and no natural/manmade disasters for the next 10 years. Otherwise, it's jumping the gun. I am not sure if they are causing such good events. I (and likely many others) foresaw the same on a global level, understanding the upcoming transits. If the economy is in a slump, start/engage in a war - this has been common in the US for the last century. Any macro economist will tell you this without astrology. This is just economic and seasonal cycle- common sense. However, every little bit helps and I am a firm believer in such practices to raise the global consciousness. We should all do our part to meditate or chant some japa and send out good thoughts and blessings to others on a global level. Permanent peace in kaliyuga will not happen and I am an optimist. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:05 PM FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) Dear List, Regarding the theme of ASTRAL REMEDIES FOR COUNTRIES, I would like to share what is claimed by Dr. John Hagelin. You may remember him if you have seen the movie that came up last March, THE SECRET OF CONSCIOUS CO-CREATION. Best wishes, Jorge PRESS RELEASE RESULTS FROM THE FIRST 75 DAYS OF THE INVINCIBLE AMERICA COURSE AT MAHARISHI UNIVERSITY OF MANAGEMENT IN FAIRFIELD, IOWA Stock Market Booms, Oil and Gas Prices Plummet, and No Hurricanes Hit U.S. Shores Largest Scientific Demonstration Project Saves the Nation $200 Billion So Far “America is being transformed by the rise of coherence in national consciousness created by the group of 1200 Yogic Flyers in Washington, D.C., and Iowa. As the number rises to 2000, any lingering problems will be quickly resolved.†—World-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin A surprisingly robust U.S. economy and a booming stock market, a successful U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon, and an unexpectedly benign hurricane season are among the clear signs of success of the first 75 days of the largest scientific demonstration project ever to monitor the effect of group Yogic Flying practice on the economic, social, and even climatic trends of the nation. This is the assessment of world-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin, director of the ongoing national demonstration project, which is being funded through a generous gift of $12 million a year by the “Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America.†Signs of Success Dr. Hagelin said that since the “Invincible America Course†began on July 23 with 1200 advanced Transcendental Meditation–Yogic Flying experts in Washington, D.C., and Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, national trends have improved dramatically, as publicly predicted by researchers before the course began: · A faltering U.S. economy has suddenly turned robust—led by a booming stock market, which pulled out from its downward spiral in mid-July and has since climbed nearly 1000 points, breaking all-time records · The price of oil, which peaked at $78 a barrel in mid-July, has plummeted more than 25% to below $58 a barrel—with gas prices dropping 25% as well · A surprisingly effective U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon has prevented a dangerous escalation of violence in the region · Dire predictions of a destructive Atlantic hurricane season have proven unfounded, as no hurricanes have struck U.S. shores this year “This dramatic transformation in national trends, which began with the start of the demonstration project, is no mere coincidence or anomaly,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This transformation is the direct result of the increased coherence in national consciousness created by the 1200 Yogic Flyers.†According to Dr. Hagelin, the nation has saved at least $200 billion in hurricane costs (Katrina alone caused an estimated $150 billion in damages), with untold billions more added to the economy by the bullish stock market. Extensive published research confirms the benefits of the “Maharishi Effect†Dr. Hagelin cited prior research, published in leading, peer-reviewed scientific journals, which has documented reduced negative trends, including reduced crime and violence, and improved economic and social trends when as few as the square root of one percent of a population practice Yogic Flying together in a group. Scientists named this phenomenon the “Maharishi Effect†after His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogic, the renowned Vedic scholar who founded the Transcendental Meditation program, and who predicted the beneficial impact of group meditation on social trends as early as 1975. Creating the “Meissner Effect†for the nation Dr. Hagelin, who serves as President of the US Peace Government and Minister of Science and Technology of the Global Country of World Peace, said that group Yogic Flying practice creates the equivalent in society of the “Meissner Effect†of physics. “The Meissner Effect refers to the ability of a superconductor to spontaneously repel any disruptive influences, due to the coherent functioning of its atomic constituents,†Dr. Hagelin said. “The Meissner Effect explains how coherent national consciousness created by the Yogic Flyers can similarly repel any disruptive influence—terrorism, conflict, or even a hurricane—and prevent it from inflicting damage on the nation.†Group of 2000 Yogic Flyers needed to make the nation invincible Dr. Hagelin acknowledged that serious problems persist in the world, but said that as the number of Yogic Flyers in the U.S. reaches the square root of one percent of the U.S. population (about 2000), there will be an even more dramatic improvement in national trends, and any lingering problems will be quickly resolved. “This is not wishful thinking,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This is hard science that has been field-tested for over 50 years and documented through more than 600 studies conducted at over 250 independent universities and research institutes throughout the world.†Establishing a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe for permanent world peace Dr. Hagelin added that similar groups of Yogic Flyers are now being established in 39 more countries to create a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe and quickly raise the whole world to a state of permanent peace. -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release 14.10.2006 -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release 14.10.2006 -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release 14.10.2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Dear Jorge The highest truth can only be understood through silence because there is only one knowledge without any differences in interpretation. S. SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino wrote: > > Dear Vyas > > > I understand you…and also the others. Knowledge is different in different states of consciousness, and that does not mean that one knowledge is better than the other one. They are just different, that’s all. The highest truth can only be understood through the silence. No words are needed… > > > > My first email was really only to point out that this kind of events also comes up in the chart. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidas > domingo, 15 de Outubro de 2006 17:12 > SAMVA > Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) > > > >  > > Dear Jorge, > > > > Please don't misunderstand my reply. I was merely pointing out the aspect of statistical significance. Ever so often there is a resurgance in similar practices to help humanity, each claiming that they are more powerful than the previous. The effectiveness can only be seen over time against such claims. If one man is seeing better things through economic cycles and astrology, and another says he's creating it, then... well you know the conclusion. Only when the astrology and the economic cycles absolutely fail to forecast negative results in a baffling manner can such claims be taken seriously. > > > > That said, I am a firm believer in such activities. I've discussed some of my practices with you. > > > > That's a fantastic point about such events being present in the natal charts. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " Jorge Angelino > > HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA > > Sunday, October 15, 2006 4:16 AM > > RE: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) > > > > Dear Vyas, > > > > I just wanted the list to be aware of the kind of events that are going on all over the world. > > > > It would also be good to know about these 39 countries and see if things are happening in accord with their rectified charts or not. > > > > Even the fact of having these groups creating coherence now must be visible in their rectified charts, I think. > > > > Let us look to the US rectified chart: > > > > From HYPERLINK " http://www.invincibleamerica.org/mvc_photos.html " http://www ..invincib-leamerica.-org/mvc_photos.-html it seems the course started on July 22, 2006, in US. > > > > Operational dasha on July 22, 2006: Ve/Sa/Mo/Ve/Ma > > > > D1 and D9 have the same lagna (vargottama)-. Saturn (yoga, meditation), L4 (mind, supporters, the MBP), and the Moon (mind, caring nature), L9 (fortune, support of Nature), are the spiritual planets for the country, together with the FB Sun, FB Jupiter and Ketu. As the country is vargottama, the role of all these planets is reinforced regarding H9 matters. > > > > Transit Venus is placed in Leo, unafflicting and unafflicted. Its dispositor, the Sun, conjoins transit Saturn in H9, almost exactly over natal Mercury, L11, and in mutual aspect with natal Moon, L9. Natal Venus, L12 (ashram, enlightenment)-, is placed in H8 (yoga, meditation, transformations)-. In D9, Venus is placed in H2 (gains). > > > > Natal Saturn is under the influence of transit Ketu, and transit Jupiter over MEP11. Natal Ketu is in H3 (spiritual initiation), and natal Jupiter is in H8 (yoga, meditation). Transit Saturn is exactly conjunct with transit Sun in H9. Both are under the influence of natal Moon, L9, natal retrograde Mercury, L11, and transit Mars (action, H3 karaka). In D9, Saturn aspects its own MT house, conjoins Mercury in H10 and is aspected by Jupiter from H4. > > > > Transit Moon is aspected by natal Ketu, transit Ketu and transit Jupiter. Natal Moon, being placed in H3 (spiritual initiation) under the aspect of natal Mercury, L11 in H9, is aspected by transit Saturn and transit Sun in H9. In D9, the Moon is well placed in H5, and under the influence of Mars and Rahu. > > > > Transit Mars is in its own MT house, unafflicted. In D9, Mars is in H11, aspected by the Moon and Ketu. So its influence over transit Saturn, transit Sun and natal Mercury brings also some gains of spiritual nature, we can say. > > > > Natal Mercury is in H9, transit Mercury is in H9. In D9, Mercury conjoins Saturn in H10 and is aspected by Jupiter from H4. So its influence over transit Saturn and transit Sun was also of a spiritual nature. > > > Even though being a post event analysis, it makes us to think as the potential for this kind of event was present in the US rectified chart. If the list members want to know more about these kind of creating coherence events, they may like to see also: > > What the Bleep Do We Know!?: Quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin appeared in this movie. Read a short HYPERLINK " http://www.invinciblemilitary.org/articles/sapratableii.htm l#b33 " summary of his experiment using Invincible Defense Technology to reduce crime in Washington D.C. > > HYPERLINK " http://www.invinciblemilitary.org/ " http://www.invincib- lemilitary.-org/ > > > > I have been helping in Mozambique in 1990, teaching TM to the Army and to about 1500 civilians in Maputo, and I must tell you that the influence of coherence in the city and in the country, according with my inner feelings, was fantastic. If it was due to this or not, what is true is that peace came very soon after that event. However, I strongly believe that THINGS JUST HAPPEN, and we are the instruments that Mother Nature uses to make them happen. That is our co-creative role. The more conscious of this we are the better is our role on creating peace, I think. > > > > No one can go to the past to make a new beginning, but everyone can begin now to make a better future. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidas > domingo, 15 de Outubro de 2006 02:43 > SAMVA > Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) > > > >  > > Dear Jorge, > > > > > > Thanks for your post. > > > > Once their ring is in place, this will have statistical significance if there are no major and minor wars, economic prosperity globally and no natural/manmade disasters for the next 10 years. Otherwise, it's jumping the gun. > > > > I am not sure if they are causing such good events. I (and likely many others) foresaw the same on a global level, understanding the upcoming transits. > > > > If the economy is in a slump, start/engage in a war - this has been common in the US for the last century. Any macro economist will tell you this without astrology. This is just economic and seasonal cycle- common sense. > > > > However, every little bit helps and I am a firm believer in such practices to raise the global consciousness. We should all do our part to meditate or chant some japa and send out good thoughts and blessings to others on a global level. > > > > Permanent peace in kaliyuga will not happen and I am an optimist. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " Jorge Angelino > > HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA > > Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:05 PM > > FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) > > > > Dear List, > > > > Regarding the theme of ASTRAL REMEDIES FOR COUNTRIES, I would like to share what is claimed by Dr. John Hagelin. > > > > You may remember him if you have seen the movie that came up last March, THE SECRET OF CONSCIOUS CO-CREATION. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > PRESS RELEASE > > > RESULTS FROM THE FIRST 75 DAYS OF THE > INVINCIBLE AMERICA COURSE AT MAHARISHI UNIVERSITY > OF MANAGEMENT IN FAIRFIELD, IOWA > > Stock Market Booms, Oil and Gas Prices Plummet, > and No Hurricanes Hit U.S. Shores > > Largest Scientific Demonstration Project > Saves the Nation $200 Billion So Far > > “America is being transformed by the rise of coherence in national consciousness created by the group of 1200 Yogic Flyers in Washington, D.C., and Iowa. > As the number rises to 2000, any lingering problems will be quickly resolved.†> > †" World-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin > > A surprisingly robust U.S. economy and a booming stock market, a successful U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon, and an unexpectedly benign hurricane season are among the clear signs of success of the first 75 days of the largest scientific demonstration project ever to monitor the effect of group Yogic Flying practice on the economic, social, and even climatic trends of the nation. > > This is the assessment of world-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin, director of the ongoing national demonstration project, which is being funded through a generous gift of $12 million a year by the “Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America.†> > Signs of Success > > Dr. Hagelin said that since the “Invincible America Course†began on July 23 with 1200 advanced Transcendental Meditation†" Yogic Flying experts in Washington, D.C., and Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, national trends have improved dramatically, as publicly predicted by researchers before the course began: > > · A faltering U.S. economy has suddenly turned robust†" led by a booming stock market, which pulled out from its downward spiral in mid-July and has since climbed nearly 1000 points, breaking all-time records > > · The price of oil, which peaked at $78 a barrel in mid-July, has plummeted more than 25% to below $58 a barrel†" with gas prices dropping 25% as well > > · A surprisingly effective U.S.- brokered cease-fire in Lebanon has prevented a dangerous escalation of violence in the region > > · Dire predictions of a destructive Atlantic hurricane season have proven unfounded, as no hurricanes have struck U.S. shores this year > > “This dramatic transformation in national trends, which began with the start of the demonstration project, is no mere coincidence or anomaly,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This transformation is the direct result of the increased coherence in national consciousness created by the 1200 Yogic Flyers.†> According to Dr. Hagelin, the nation has saved at least $200 billion in hurricane costs (Katrina alone caused an estimated $150 billion in damages), with untold billions more added to the economy by the bullish stock market. > > Extensive published research confirms the benefits of the “Maharishi Effect†> > Dr. Hagelin cited prior research, published in leading, peer- reviewed scientific journals, which has documented reduced negative trends, including reduced crime and violence, and improved economic and social trends when as few as the square root of one percent of a population practice Yogic Flying together in a group. > > Scientists named this phenomenon the “Maharishi Effect†after His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogic, the renowned Vedic scholar who founded the Transcendental Meditation program, and who predicted the beneficial impact of group meditation on social trends as early as 1975. > > Creating the “Meissner Effect†for the nation > > Dr. Hagelin, who serves as President of the US Peace Government and Minister of Science and Technology of the Global Country of World Peace, said that group Yogic Flying practice creates the equivalent in society of the “Meissner Effect†of physics. > > “The Meissner Effect refers to the ability of a superconductor to spontaneously repel any disruptive influences, due to the coherent functioning of its atomic constituents,†Dr. Hagelin said. “The Meissner Effect explains how coherent national consciousness created by the Yogic Flyers can similarly repel any disruptive influence†" terrorism, conflict, or even a hurricane†" and prevent it from inflicting damage on the nation.†> > Group of 2000 Yogic Flyers needed to make the nation invincible > > Dr. Hagelin acknowledged that serious problems persist in the world, but said that as the number of Yogic Flyers in the U.S. reaches the square root of one percent of the U.S. population (about 2000), there will be an even more dramatic improvement in national trends, and any lingering problems will be quickly resolved. > > “This is not wishful thinking,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This is hard science that has been field-tested for over 50 years and documented through more than 600 studies conducted at over 250 independent universities and research institutes throughout the world.†> > Establishing a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe > for permanent world peace > > Dr. Hagelin added that similar groups of Yogic Flyers are now being established in 39 more countries to create a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe and quickly raise the whole world to a state of permanent peace. > > > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 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Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Right SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of searchbutton segunda-feira, 16 de Outubro de 2006 05:03 SAMVA Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) Dear Jorge The highest truth can only be understood through silence because there is only one knowledge without any differences in interpretation. S. SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino wrote: > > Dear Vyas > > > I understand you…and also the others. Knowledge is different in different states of consciousness, and that does not mean that one knowledge is better than the other one. They are just different, that’s all. The highest truth can only be understood through the silence. No words are needed… > > > > My first email was really only to point out that this kind of events also comes up in the chart. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidas > domingo, 15 de Outubro de 2006 17:12 > SAMVA > Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) > > > >  > > Dear Jorge, > > > > Please don't misunderstand my reply. I was merely pointing out the aspect of statistical significance. Ever so often there is a resurgance in similar practices to help humanity, each claiming that they are more powerful than the previous. The effectiveness can only be seen over time against such claims. If one man is seeing better things through economic cycles and astrology, and another says he's creating it, then... well you know the conclusion. Only when the astrology and the economic cycles absolutely fail to forecast negative results in a baffling manner can such claims be taken seriously. > > > > That said, I am a firm believer in such activities. I've discussed some of my practices with you. > > > > That's a fantastic point about such events being present in the natal charts. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " Jorge Angelino > > HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA > > Sunday, October 15, 2006 4:16 AM > > RE: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) > > > > Dear Vyas, > > > > I just wanted the list to be aware of the kind of events that are going on all over the world. > > > > It would also be good to know about these 39 countries and see if things are happening in accord with their rectified charts or not. > > > > Even the fact of having these groups creating coherence now must be visible in their rectified charts, I think. > > > > Let us look to the US rectified chart: > > > > From HYPERLINK " http://www.invincibleamerica.org/mvc_photos.html " http://www ..invincib-leamerica.-org/mvc_photos.-html it seems the course started on July 22, 2006, in US. > > > > Operational dasha on July 22, 2006: Ve/Sa/Mo/Ve/Ma > > > > D1 and D9 have the same lagna (vargottama)-. Saturn (yoga, meditation), L4 (mind, supporters, the MBP), and the Moon (mind, caring nature), L9 (fortune, support of Nature), are the spiritual planets for the country, together with the FB Sun, FB Jupiter and Ketu. As the country is vargottama, the role of all these planets is reinforced regarding H9 matters. > > > > Transit Venus is placed in Leo, unafflicting and unafflicted. Its dispositor, the Sun, conjoins transit Saturn in H9, almost exactly over natal Mercury, L11, and in mutual aspect with natal Moon, L9. Natal Venus, L12 (ashram, enlightenment)-, is placed in H8 (yoga, meditation, transformations)-. In D9, Venus is placed in H2 (gains). > > > > Natal Saturn is under the influence of transit Ketu, and transit Jupiter over MEP11. Natal Ketu is in H3 (spiritual initiation), and natal Jupiter is in H8 (yoga, meditation). Transit Saturn is exactly conjunct with transit Sun in H9. Both are under the influence of natal Moon, L9, natal retrograde Mercury, L11, and transit Mars (action, H3 karaka). In D9, Saturn aspects its own MT house, conjoins Mercury in H10 and is aspected by Jupiter from H4. > > > > Transit Moon is aspected by natal Ketu, transit Ketu and transit Jupiter. Natal Moon, being placed in H3 (spiritual initiation) under the aspect of natal Mercury, L11 in H9, is aspected by transit Saturn and transit Sun in H9. In D9, the Moon is well placed in H5, and under the influence of Mars and Rahu. > > > > Transit Mars is in its own MT house, unafflicted. In D9, Mars is in H11, aspected by the Moon and Ketu. So its influence over transit Saturn, transit Sun and natal Mercury brings also some gains of spiritual nature, we can say. > > > > Natal Mercury is in H9, transit Mercury is in H9. In D9, Mercury conjoins Saturn in H10 and is aspected by Jupiter from H4. So its influence over transit Saturn and transit Sun was also of a spiritual nature. > > > > > > > > > > Even though being a post event analysis, it makes us to think as the potential for this kind of event was present in the US rectified chart. If the list members want to know more about these kind of creating coherence events, they may like to see also: > > What the Bleep Do We Know!?: Quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin appeared in this movie. Read a short HYPERLINK " http://www.invinciblemilitary.org/articles/sapratableii.htm l#b33 " summary of his experiment using Invincible Defense Technology to reduce crime in Washington D.C. > > HYPERLINK " http://www.invinciblemilitary.org/ " http://www.invincib- lemilitary.-org/ > > > > I have been helping in Mozambique in 1990, teaching TM to the Army and to about 1500 civilians in Maputo, and I must tell you that the influence of coherence in the city and in the country, according with my inner feelings, was fantastic. If it was due to this or not, what is true is that peace came very soon after that event. However, I strongly believe that THINGS JUST HAPPEN, and we are the instruments that Mother Nature uses to make them happen. That is our co-creative role. The more conscious of this we are the better is our role on creating peace, I think. > > > > No one can go to the past to make a new beginning, but everyone can begin now to make a better future. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidas > domingo, 15 de Outubro de 2006 02:43 > SAMVA > Re: FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) > > > >  > > Dear Jorge, > > > > > > Thanks for your post. > > > > Once their ring is in place, this will have statistical significance if there are no major and minor wars, economic prosperity globally and no natural/manmade disasters for the next 10 years. Otherwise, it's jumping the gun. > > > > I am not sure if they are causing such good events. I (and likely many others) foresaw the same on a global level, understanding the upcoming transits. > > > > If the economy is in a slump, start/engage in a war - this has been common in the US for the last century. Any macro economist will tell you this without astrology. This is just economic and seasonal cycle- common sense. > > > > However, every little bit helps and I am a firm believer in such practices to raise the global consciousness. We should all do our part to meditate or chant some japa and send out good thoughts and blessings to others on a global level. > > > > Permanent peace in kaliyuga will not happen and I am an optimist. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " Jorge Angelino > > HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA > > Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:05 PM > > FW: GCWP-GB NEWS - Invincible America: A Progress Report (About Astral Remedies for countries) > > > > Dear List, > > > > Regarding the theme of ASTRAL REMEDIES FOR COUNTRIES, I would like to share what is claimed by Dr. John Hagelin. > > > > You may remember him if you have seen the movie that came up last March, THE SECRET OF CONSCIOUS CO-CREATION. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > PRESS RELEASE > > > RESULTS FROM THE FIRST 75 DAYS OF THE > INVINCIBLE AMERICA COURSE AT MAHARISHI UNIVERSITY > OF MANAGEMENT IN FAIRFIELD, IOWA > > Stock Market Booms, Oil and Gas Prices Plummet, > and No Hurricanes Hit U.S. Shores > > Largest Scientific Demonstration Project > Saves the Nation $200 Billion So Far > > “America is being transformed by the rise of coherence in national consciousness created by the group of 1200 Yogic Flyers in Washington, D.C., and Iowa. > As the number rises to 2000, any lingering problems will be quickly resolved.†> > †" World-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin > > A surprisingly robust U.S. economy and a booming stock market, a successful U.S.-brokered cease-fire in Lebanon, and an unexpectedly benign hurricane season are among the clear signs of success of the first 75 days of the largest scientific demonstration project ever to monitor the effect of group Yogic Flying practice on the economic, social, and even climatic trends of the nation. > > This is the assessment of world-renowned quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin, director of the ongoing national demonstration project, which is being funded through a generous gift of $12 million a year by the “Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America.†> > Signs of Success > > Dr. Hagelin said that since the “Invincible America Course†began on July 23 with 1200 advanced Transcendental Meditation†" Yogic Flying experts in Washington, D.C., and Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, national trends have improved dramatically, as publicly predicted by researchers before the course began: > > · A faltering U.S. economy has suddenly turned robust†" led by a booming stock market, which pulled out from its downward spiral in mid-July and has since climbed nearly 1000 points, breaking all-time records > > · The price of oil, which peaked at $78 a barrel in mid-July, has plummeted more than 25% to below $58 a barrel†" with gas prices dropping 25% as well > > · A surprisingly effective U.S.- brokered cease-fire in Lebanon has prevented a dangerous escalation of violence in the region > > · Dire predictions of a destructive Atlantic hurricane season have proven unfounded, as no hurricanes have struck U.S. shores this year > > “This dramatic transformation in national trends, which began with the start of the demonstration project, is no mere coincidence or anomaly,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This transformation is the direct result of the increased coherence in national consciousness created by the 1200 Yogic Flyers.†> According to Dr. Hagelin, the nation has saved at least $200 billion in hurricane costs (Katrina alone caused an estimated $150 billion in damages), with untold billions more added to the economy by the bullish stock market. > > Extensive published research confirms the benefits of the “Maharishi Effect†> > Dr. Hagelin cited prior research, published in leading, peer- reviewed scientific journals, which has documented reduced negative trends, including reduced crime and violence, and improved economic and social trends when as few as the square root of one percent of a population practice Yogic Flying together in a group. > > Scientists named this phenomenon the “Maharishi Effect†after His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogic, the renowned Vedic scholar who founded the Transcendental Meditation program, and who predicted the beneficial impact of group meditation on social trends as early as 1975. > > Creating the “Meissner Effect†for the nation > > Dr. Hagelin, who serves as President of the US Peace Government and Minister of Science and Technology of the Global Country of World Peace, said that group Yogic Flying practice creates the equivalent in society of the “Meissner Effect†of physics. > > “The Meissner Effect refers to the ability of a superconductor to spontaneously repel any disruptive influences, due to the coherent functioning of its atomic constituents,†Dr. Hagelin said. “The Meissner Effect explains how coherent national consciousness created by the Yogic Flyers can similarly repel any disruptive influence†" terrorism, conflict, or even a hurricane†" and prevent it from inflicting damage on the nation.†> > Group of 2000 Yogic Flyers needed to make the nation invincible > > Dr. Hagelin acknowledged that serious problems persist in the world, but said that as the number of Yogic Flyers in the U.S. reaches the square root of one percent of the U.S. population (about 2000), there will be an even more dramatic improvement in national trends, and any lingering problems will be quickly resolved. > > “This is not wishful thinking,†Dr. Hagelin said. “This is hard science that has been field-tested for over 50 years and documented through more than 600 studies conducted at over 250 independent universities and research institutes throughout the world.†> > Establishing a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe > for permanent world peace > > Dr. Hagelin added that similar groups of Yogic Flyers are now being established in 39 more countries to create a “Ring of Invincibility†around the globe and quickly raise the whole world to a state of permanent peace. > > > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release 13.10.2006 > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release 14.10.2006 > > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release 14.10.2006 > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release 14.10.2006 > -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release 14.10.2006 -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release 14.10.2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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