Guest guest Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Hello list, Stock prices in Thailand have plunged yesterday and today due to measures taken by the military government to stem the rise of the Bhat. The measures are sudden and draconian and have sparked fear in the investment community. In the 24° Aries rising chart for Thailand (attached), the birth of the Chakri Dynasty, the Ju/Mo period is running. Transit L4 Moon is in H8 with L6 Mercury and two other planets, L1 Mars and L7 Jupiter. L6 Mercury is afflicting H8 and H2. Natally, the nodes are in H12 and H6 and afflict the even numbered houses, including H4, owned by the Moon. The Asian crisis was sparked in 1996 when the Thai Bhat fell sharply. Let's hope this is a short term development and not indicative of further problems in the region. Best regards, C Stock index still plunge after SET resume tradingThe SET resumes stock trading at noon. The SET index fell further by 13.74 per cent or 100.37 points to 630.18 at 12.12pm. Bank of Thailand has asked all brokerage companies to discuss about the issue on 1.30pm. Key Democrat Party member Korn Chatikavanij urged the Bank of Thailand to immediately reverse the recently-introduced measure to intervene the currency, saying that it would cause the damages to the capital market for years. Today, Thai share prices plunged by 10 per cent at 11:30 am after the central bank took the most stringent measures since the 1997 Asian financial crisis to curb the baht's rise. The Stock Exchange of Thailand implemented the circuit breaker measure for the first time in history to deal with the drop by suspending the trading for 30 minutes at 11:30 hours. At 11:30, the SET nosedived to 656.49, the lowest point of the day so far. The Stock Exchange of Thailand (SET) composite index nosedived 64.62 points or 8.85 per cent to 665.93 in the first minutes of trading and the bluechip SET 50 index fell 53.10 points to 458.90. Korn said: "The measure causes the damage to the capital market. The Bank of Thailand should immediately reverse this policy, because no investors who will want to spend Bt100 just to have Bt30 withheld. And if they will get only Bt90 if they want to remit the money in less than one year." Starting from Tuesday, financial institutions would be required to withhold 30 per cent of foreign currencies bought or exchanged against the baht, except those related to exports, said BOT governor Tarisa Watanagase. Korn said that the damage caused by the measures could be overwhelming. Besides, there's rule from the financial institutions that they cannot invest in countries with capital control. He said the capital market in Chile for instance was damaged by 10 years while Malaysia was damaged by 3 to 4 years. He said Bank of Thailand should implement the separate measures to deal with money and financial capital markets. Speculators are mostly in the bond markets. Bank of Thailand should separate the measurement in money and capital markets speculators are mostly bond market. The Nationhttp://www.nationmultimedia.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Dear C, The Ascendant of the rectified chart for Thailand is 28:48 Aries instead of  23:56 Aries. Since December 2, at 03:42 GMT, Thailand has been in Ju/Ma/Ma. Natal Mars is placed in H2 (gains). Since that date, transit Jupiter and Mars have been badly placed in H8 and for some time under the affliction of Mercury. Besides the MEP5 (investments) and MEP11 (gains) are afflicted by transit Rahu/Ketu axis. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Cosmologer terça-feira, 19 de Dezembro de 2006 08:09 samva Thailand - share prices plunge Hello list, Stock prices in Thailand have plunged yesterday and today due to measures taken by the military government to stem the rise of the Bhat. The measures are sudden and draconian and have sparked fear in the investment community. In the 24° Aries rising chart for Thailand (attached), the birth of the Chakri Dynasty, the Ju/Mo period is running. Transit L4 Moon is in H8 with L6 Mercury and two other planets, L1 Mars and L7 Jupiter. L6 Mercury is afflicting H8 and H2. Natally, the nodes are in H12 and H6 and afflict the even numbered houses, including H4, owned by the Moon. The Asian crisis was sparked in 1996 when the Thai Bhat fell sharply. Let's hope this is a short term development and not indicative of further problems in the region. Best regards, C Stock index still plunge after SET resume trading The SET resumes stock trading at noon. The SET index fell further by 13.74 per cent or 100.37 points to 630.18 at 12.12pm. Bank of Thailand has asked all brokerage companies to discuss about the issue on 1.30pm. Key Democrat Party member Korn Chatikavanij urged the Bank of Thailand to immediately reverse the recently-introduced measure to intervene the currency, saying that it would cause the damages to the capital market for years. Today, Thai share prices plunged by 10 per cent at 11:30 am after the central bank took the most stringent measures since the 1997 Asian financial crisis to curb the baht's rise. The Stock Exchange of Thailand implemented the circuit breaker measure for the first time in history to deal with the drop by suspending the trading for 30 minutes at 11:30 hours. At 11:30, the SET nosedived to 656.49, the lowest point of the day so far. The Stock Exchange of Thailand (SET) composite index nosedived 64.62 points or 8.85 per cent to 665.93 in the first minutes of trading and the bluechip SET 50 index fell 53.10 points to 458.90. Korn said: " The measure causes the damage to the capital market. The Bank of Thailand should immediately reverse this policy, because no investors who will want to spend Bt100 just to have Bt30 withheld. And if they will get only Bt90 if they want to remit the money in less than one year. " Starting from Tuesday, financial institutions would be required to withhold 30 per cent of foreign currencies bought or exchanged against the baht, except those related to exports, said BOT governor Tarisa Watanagase. Korn said that the damage caused by the measures could be overwhelming. Besides, there's rule from the financial institutions that they cannot invest in countries with capital control. He said the capital market in Chile for instance was damaged by 10 years while Malaysia was damaged by 3 to 4 years. He said Bank of Thailand should implement the separate measures to deal with money and financial capital markets. Speculators are mostly in the bond markets. Bank of Thailand should separate the measurement in money and capital markets speculators are mostly bond market. The Nation http://www.nationmultimedia.com/  -- Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release 14.12.2006 19:28 -- Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release 14.12.2006 19:28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Dear Jorge, Thank you for the information. We are generally in agreement on this time. However, I am tentatively using the 24° Aries rising for three reasons: - the natal nodes are closely afflicting the MEPs - transit L6 Mercury is currently afflicting H8 and H2 - it is the time identified by Thai astrologers, as per the Book of World Horoscopes. The issue of exact MEP degree is an empirical matter which predictions should settle in due course. Best regards, C SAMVA , " jorge angelino " <jorge.angelino wrote: > > Dear C, > > > > The Ascendant of the rectified chart for Thailand is 28:48 Aries instead of 23:56 Aries. > > > > Since December 2, at 03:42 GMT, Thailand has been in Ju/Ma/Ma. Natal Mars is placed in H2 (gains). Since that date, transit Jupiter and Mars have been badly placed in H8 and for some time under the affliction of Mercury. Besides the MEP5 (investments) and MEP11 (gains) are afflicted by transit Rahu/Ketu axis. > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Cosmologer > terça-feira, 19 de Dezembro de 2006 08:09 > samva > Thailand - share prices plunge > > > > Hello list, > > > > Stock prices in Thailand have plunged yesterday and today due to measures taken by the military government to stem the rise of the Bhat. The measures are sudden and draconian and have sparked fear in the investment community. > > > > In the 24° Aries rising chart for Thailand (attached), the birth of the Chakri Dynasty, the Ju/Mo period is running. Transit L4 Moon is in H8 with L6 Mercury and two other planets, L1 Mars and L7 Jupiter. L6 Mercury is afflicting H8 and H2. Natally, the nodes are in H12 and H6 and afflict the even numbered houses, including H4, owned by the Moon. > > > > The Asian crisis was sparked in 1996 when the Thai Bhat fell sharply. Let's hope this is a short term development and not indicative of further problems in the region. > > > > Best regards, > > > > C > > > > Stock index still plunge after SET resume trading > HYPERLINK " http://www.nationmultimedia.com/images/space.gif " > The SET resumes stock trading at noon. The SET index fell further by 13.74 per cent or 100.37 points to 630.18 at 12.12pm. Bank of Thailand has asked all brokerage companies to discuss about the issue on 1.30pm. > > Key Democrat Party member Korn Chatikavanij urged the Bank of Thailand to immediately reverse the recently-introduced measure to intervene the currency, saying that it would cause the damages to the capital market for years. > > Today, Thai share prices plunged by 10 per cent at 11:30 am after the central bank took the most stringent measures since the 1997 Asian financial crisis to curb the baht's rise. > > The Stock Exchange of Thailand implemented the circuit breaker measure for the first time in history to deal with the drop by suspending the trading for 30 minutes at 11:30 hours. > > At 11:30, the SET nosedived to 656.49, the lowest point of the day so far. The Stock Exchange of Thailand (SET) composite index nosedived 64.62 points or 8.85 per cent to 665.93 in the first minutes of trading and the bluechip SET 50 index fell 53.10 points to 458.90. > > Korn said: " The measure causes the damage to the capital market. The Bank of Thailand should immediately reverse this policy, because no investors who will want to spend Bt100 just to have Bt30 withheld. And if they will get only Bt90 if they want to remit the money in less than one year. " > > Starting from Tuesday, financial institutions would be required to withhold 30 per cent of foreign currencies bought or exchanged against the baht, except those related to exports, said BOT governor Tarisa Watanagase. > > Korn said that the damage caused by the measures could be overwhelming. Besides, there's rule from the financial institutions that they cannot invest in countries with capital control. He said the capital market in Chile for instance was damaged by 10 years while Malaysia was damaged by 3 to 4 years. > > He said Bank of Thailand should implement the separate measures to deal with money and financial capital markets. Speculators are mostly in the bond markets. Bank of Thailand should separate the measurement in money and capital markets speculators are mostly bond market. > > The Nation > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.nationmultimedia.com/ " http://www.nationmultimedi a.com/ > > > > > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: 14.12.2006 19:28 > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: 14.12.2006 19:28 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 OK my dear Cosmologer. However, until April 1st, 1920, Thailand had Local Time which means GMT+6h42m in Bangkok, on April 21, 1782. Only after that date it became GMT+7h00m in all the country. DST=0 always. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of cosmologer terça-feira, 19 de Dezembro de 2006 13:32 SAMVA Re: Thailand - share prices plunge Dear Jorge, Thank you for the information. We are generally in agreement on this time. However, I am tentatively using the 24° Aries rising for three reasons: - the natal nodes are closely afflicting the MEPs - transit L6 Mercury is currently afflicting H8 and H2 - it is the time identified by Thai astrologers, as per the Book of World Horoscopes. The issue of exact MEP degree is an empirical matter which predictions should settle in due course. Best regards, C SAMVA , " jorge angelino " <jorge.angelino wrote: > > Dear C, > > > > The Ascendant of the rectified chart for Thailand is 28:48 Aries instead of 23:56 Aries. > > > > Since December 2, at 03:42 GMT, Thailand has been in Ju/Ma/Ma. Natal Mars is placed in H2 (gains). Since that date, transit Jupiter and Mars have been badly placed in H8 and for some time under the affliction of Mercury. Besides the MEP5 (investments) and MEP11 (gains) are afflicted by transit Rahu/Ketu axis. > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Cosmologer > terça-feira, 19 de Dezembro de 2006 08:09 > samva > Thailand - share prices plunge > > > > Hello list, > > > > Stock prices in Thailand have plunged yesterday and today due to measures taken by the military government to stem the rise of the Bhat. The measures are sudden and draconian and have sparked fear in the investment community. > > > > In the 24° Aries rising chart for Thailand (attached), the birth of the Chakri Dynasty, the Ju/Mo period is running. Transit L4 Moon is in H8 with L6 Mercury and two other planets, L1 Mars and L7 Jupiter. L6 Mercury is afflicting H8 and H2. Natally, the nodes are in H12 and H6 and afflict the even numbered houses, including H4, owned by the Moon. > > > > The Asian crisis was sparked in 1996 when the Thai Bhat fell sharply. Let's hope this is a short term development and not indicative of further problems in the region. > > > > Best regards, > > > > C > > > > Stock index still plunge after SET resume trading > HYPERLINK " http://www.nationmultimedia.com/images/space.gif " > The SET resumes stock trading at noon. The SET index fell further by 13.74 per cent or 100.37 points to 630.18 at 12.12pm. Bank of Thailand has asked all brokerage companies to discuss about the issue on 1.30pm. > > Key Democrat Party member Korn Chatikavanij urged the Bank of Thailand to immediately reverse the recently-introduced measure to intervene the currency, saying that it would cause the damages to the capital market for years. > > Today, Thai share prices plunged by 10 per cent at 11:30 am after the central bank took the most stringent measures since the 1997 Asian financial crisis to curb the baht's rise. > > The Stock Exchange of Thailand implemented the circuit breaker measure for the first time in history to deal with the drop by suspending the trading for 30 minutes at 11:30 hours. > > At 11:30, the SET nosedived to 656.49, the lowest point of the day so far. The Stock Exchange of Thailand (SET) composite index nosedived 64.62 points or 8.85 per cent to 665.93 in the first minutes of trading and the bluechip SET 50 index fell 53.10 points to 458.90. > > Korn said: " The measure causes the damage to the capital market. The Bank of Thailand should immediately reverse this policy, because no investors who will want to spend Bt100 just to have Bt30 withheld. And if they will get only Bt90 if they want to remit the money in less than one year. " > > Starting from Tuesday, financial institutions would be required to withhold 30 per cent of foreign currencies bought or exchanged against the baht, except those related to exports, said BOT governor Tarisa Watanagase. > > Korn said that the damage caused by the measures could be overwhelming. Besides, there's rule from the financial institutions that they cannot invest in countries with capital control. He said the capital market in Chile for instance was damaged by 10 years while Malaysia was damaged by 3 to 4 years. > > He said Bank of Thailand should implement the separate measures to deal with money and financial capital markets. Speculators are mostly in the bond markets. Bank of Thailand should separate the measurement in money and capital markets speculators are mostly bond market. > > The Nation > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.nationmultimedia.com/ " http://www.nationmultimedi a.com/ > > > > > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: 14.12.2006 19:28 > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: 14.12.2006 19:28 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Hello list, Share prices in Thailand have opened 6% higher after the government partially reversed its decision. The 15% drop yesterday, the biggest one day decline in over 30 years, therefore looks set to be a short term development. Regional stock exchanges were also affected yesterday, with some dropping by 3%. The transits indicate some improvement with transit Moon entering H9 and L6 Mercury crossing MEP of H8. Best regards, C Bt820-billion blunder MR Pridiyathorn Devakula, finance minister, said the government had acted in the interests of the private sector, especially exporters who were suffering from the strong baht. Pridiyathorn quickly halts capital policy Tuesday night and admits record fall of Thai stock market was far beyond expectations. Deputy Premier and Finance Minister Pridiyathorn Devakula yesterday quickly reversed the government's capital-control policy by exempting the ultra-sensitive stock market from a controversial reserve requirement and tax. In a nationally televised announcement, Pridiyathorn admitted foreign investors had been severely hit by the capital reserve and tax measures, resulting in the Thai stock market's free fall. Yesterday, the Stock Exchange of Thailand recorded the single biggest one-day loss in its history with Bt820 billion in paper wealth lost as the key SET index plunged by 14.8 per cent. Regional stock markets also fell in tandem, with Jakarta down 2.9 per cent; Kuala Lumpur down 2 per cent, and Singapore down 2.2 per cent. Pridiyathorn said the 30 per cent capital reserve requirement would remain intact on funds brought into the country for investing in financial instruments, as well as for borrowings. However, there would be no such requirement on foreign funds brought into the country for foreign direct investment and for investing in the stock market, starting today. He said the stock market should recover in stages and admitted that the damage in terms of a massive loss of market capitalisation was far beyond any expectation. The finance minister said he hoped the negative consequences on the stock market would not be long-lasting, but Piyasvasti Amranand, the energy minister and a former asset management executive, warned there could be long-term negative impacts. Meanwhile, the Thai baht fell 2 per cent to about Bt36 to the dollar. Until yesterday, the currency had risen by 16 per cent this year against the dollar. Earlier, Pridiyathorn said the Bank of Thailand had acted in the interests of the private sector, especially exporters suffering from the strong baht, by introducing the capital reserve and tax measures. The government wanted to take care of the Thai economy over the interests of foreign speculators, but it seemed to have under- estimated the huge negative impacts on the stock market. Critics said the measures imposed by the central bank were probably too harsh and resulted in the stock market's free-fall. The central bank allowed foreigners yesterday to keep more baht in the non-resident baht account in order to provide room for them to keep their baht liquidity after the anti-speculation move made them shift capital out of the stock market. Late in the afternoon, the BOT cancelled the ceiling on outstanding baht liquidity in non-resident baht accounts per person, set earlier at Bt300 million. The ceiling was set because the BOT wanted to cut foreigners' baht liquidity. However, the central bank moved to cancel the ceiling to allow foreigners to " park " their baht after they got out of the stock market. On Monday, the BOT announced that Thailand would require a sweeping 30 per cent reserve on foreign capital brought into the country. It meant that if investors or speculators pull back money within three or six months they would lose a 10 per cent withholding tax on the entire amount. But if they took money back after a year, they would be subject to no tax. In effect, all foreign funds were negatively affected, including those for FDI and investment in the stock, property and other markets.The negative impact on the stock market was huge, as yesterday's crash was the biggest one-day fall in the bourse's 31-year history. SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > Hello list, > > Stock prices in Thailand have plunged yesterday and today due to measures taken by the military government to stem the rise of the Bhat. The measures are sudden and draconian and have sparked fear in the investment community. > > In the 24° Aries rising chart for Thailand (attached), the birth of the Chakri Dynasty, the Ju/Mo period is running. Transit L4 Moon is in H8 with L6 Mercury and two other planets, L1 Mars and L7 Jupiter. L6 Mercury is afflicting H8 and H2. Natally, the nodes are in H12 and H6 and afflict the even numbered houses, including H4, owned by the Moon. > > The Asian crisis was sparked in 1996 when the Thai Bhat fell sharply. Let's hope this is a short term development and not indicative of further problems in the region. > > Best regards, > > C > > Stock index still plunge after SET resume trading > > The SET resumes stock trading at noon. The SET index fell further by 13.74 per cent or 100.37 points to 630.18 at 12.12pm. Bank of Thailand has asked all brokerage companies to discuss about the issue on 1.30pm. > > > Key Democrat Party member Korn Chatikavanij urged the Bank of Thailand to immediately reverse the recently-introduced measure to intervene the currency, saying that it would cause the damages to the capital market for years. > > Today, Thai share prices plunged by 10 per cent at 11:30 am after the central bank took the most stringent measures since the 1997 Asian financial crisis to curb the baht's rise. The Stock Exchange of Thailand implemented the circuit breaker measure for the first time in history to deal with the drop by suspending the trading for 30 minutes at 11:30 hours. At 11:30, the SET nosedived to 656.49, the lowest point of the day so far. The Stock Exchange of Thailand (SET) composite index nosedived 64.62 points or 8.85 per cent to 665.93 in the first minutes of trading and the bluechip SET 50 index fell 53.10 points to 458.90. Korn said: " The measure causes the damage to the capital market. The Bank of Thailand should immediately reverse this policy, because no investors who will want to spend Bt100 just to have Bt30 withheld. And if they will get only Bt90 if they want to remit the money in less than one year. " Starting from Tuesday, financial institutions would > be required to withhold 30 per cent of foreign currencies bought or exchanged against the baht, except those related to exports, said BOT governor Tarisa Watanagase. Korn said that the damage caused by the measures could be overwhelming. Besides, there's rule from the financial institutions that they cannot invest in countries with capital control. He said the capital market in Chile for instance was damaged by 10 years while Malaysia was damaged by 3 to 4 years. He said Bank of Thailand should implement the separate measures to deal with money and financial capital markets. Speculators are mostly in the bond markets. Bank of Thailand should separate the measurement in money and capital markets speculators are mostly bond market. The Nation > > http://www.nationmultimedia.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Dear C, According with the rectified chart: since December 16, 2006, at 01:46 GMT, current dasha was Ju/Ma/Ma/Ve. From December 19, at 09:18 GMT, dasha changed to Ju/Ma/Ma/Su. Today, December 20, at 09:10 GMT, Ju/Ma/Ma/Mo will start. Natal Venus is placed in H12 (losses). Natal Sun (government), L5 (investments) is exalted in H1. Natal Moon, L4, is strong in H4. It seems things will improve. However, Mercury, L6, will be exactly over MEP8 on December 23. Let us see how it behaves. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of cosmologer quarta-feira, 20 de Dezembro de 2006 08:02 SAMVA Re: Thailand - share prices plunge Hello list, Share prices in Thailand have opened 6% higher after the government partially reversed its decision. The 15% drop yesterday, the biggest one day decline in over 30 years, therefore looks set to be a short term development. Regional stock exchanges were also affected yesterday, with some dropping by 3%. The transits indicate some improvement with transit Moon entering H9 and L6 Mercury crossing MEP of H8. Best regards, C Bt820-billion blunder MR Pridiyathorn Devakula, finance minister, said the government had acted in the interests of the private sector, especially exporters who were suffering from the strong baht. Pridiyathorn quickly halts capital policy Tuesday night and admits record fall of Thai stock market was far beyond expectations. Deputy Premier and Finance Minister Pridiyathorn Devakula yesterday quickly reversed the government's capital-control policy by exempting the ultra-sensitive stock market from a controversial reserve requirement and tax. In a nationally televised announcement, Pridiyathorn admitted foreign investors had been severely hit by the capital reserve and tax measures, resulting in the Thai stock market's free fall. Yesterday, the Stock Exchange of Thailand recorded the single biggest one-day loss in its history with Bt820 billion in paper wealth lost as the key SET index plunged by 14.8 per cent. Regional stock markets also fell in tandem, with Jakarta down 2.9 per cent; Kuala Lumpur down 2 per cent, and Singapore down 2.2 per cent. Pridiyathorn said the 30 per cent capital reserve requirement would remain intact on funds brought into the country for investing in financial instruments, as well as for borrowings. However, there would be no such requirement on foreign funds brought into the country for foreign direct investment and for investing in the stock market, starting today. He said the stock market should recover in stages and admitted that the damage in terms of a massive loss of market capitalisation was far beyond any expectation. The finance minister said he hoped the negative consequences on the stock market would not be long-lasting, but Piyasvasti Amranand, the energy minister and a former asset management executive, warned there could be long-term negative impacts. Meanwhile, the Thai baht fell 2 per cent to about Bt36 to the dollar. Until yesterday, the currency had risen by 16 per cent this year against the dollar. Earlier, Pridiyathorn said the Bank of Thailand had acted in the interests of the private sector, especially exporters suffering from the strong baht, by introducing the capital reserve and tax measures. The government wanted to take care of the Thai economy over the interests of foreign speculators, but it seemed to have under- estimated the huge negative impacts on the stock market. Critics said the measures imposed by the central bank were probably too harsh and resulted in the stock market's free-fall. The central bank allowed foreigners yesterday to keep more baht in the non-resident baht account in order to provide room for them to keep their baht liquidity after the anti-speculation move made them shift capital out of the stock market. Late in the afternoon, the BOT cancelled the ceiling on outstanding baht liquidity in non-resident baht accounts per person, set earlier at Bt300 million. The ceiling was set because the BOT wanted to cut foreigners' baht liquidity. However, the central bank moved to cancel the ceiling to allow foreigners to " park " their baht after they got out of the stock market. On Monday, the BOT announced that Thailand would require a sweeping 30 per cent reserve on foreign capital brought into the country. It meant that if investors or speculators pull back money within three or six months they would lose a 10 per cent withholding tax on the entire amount. But if they took money back after a year, they would be subject to no tax. In effect, all foreign funds were negatively affected, including those for FDI and investment in the stock, property and other markets.The negative impact on the stock market was huge, as yesterday's crash was the biggest one-day fall in the bourse's 31-year history. SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > Hello list, > > Stock prices in Thailand have plunged yesterday and today due to measures taken by the military government to stem the rise of the Bhat. The measures are sudden and draconian and have sparked fear in the investment community. > > In the 24° Aries rising chart for Thailand (attached), the birth of the Chakri Dynasty, the Ju/Mo period is running. Transit L4 Moon is in H8 with L6 Mercury and two other planets, L1 Mars and L7 Jupiter. L6 Mercury is afflicting H8 and H2. Natally, the nodes are in H12 and H6 and afflict the even numbered houses, including H4, owned by the Moon. > > The Asian crisis was sparked in 1996 when the Thai Bhat fell sharply. Let's hope this is a short term development and not indicative of further problems in the region. > > Best regards, > > C > > Stock index still plunge after SET resume trading > > The SET resumes stock trading at noon. The SET index fell further by 13.74 per cent or 100.37 points to 630.18 at 12.12pm. Bank of Thailand has asked all brokerage companies to discuss about the issue on 1.30pm. > > > Key Democrat Party member Korn Chatikavanij urged the Bank of Thailand to immediately reverse the recently-introduced measure to intervene the currency, saying that it would cause the damages to the capital market for years. > > Today, Thai share prices plunged by 10 per cent at 11:30 am after the central bank took the most stringent measures since the 1997 Asian financial crisis to curb the baht's rise. The Stock Exchange of Thailand implemented the circuit breaker measure for the first time in history to deal with the drop by suspending the trading for 30 minutes at 11:30 hours. At 11:30, the SET nosedived to 656.49, the lowest point of the day so far. The Stock Exchange of Thailand (SET) composite index nosedived 64.62 points or 8.85 per cent to 665.93 in the first minutes of trading and the bluechip SET 50 index fell 53.10 points to 458.90. Korn said: " The measure causes the damage to the capital market. The Bank of Thailand should immediately reverse this policy, because no investors who will want to spend Bt100 just to have Bt30 withheld. And if they will get only Bt90 if they want to remit the money in less than one year. " Starting from Tuesday, financial institutions would > be required to withhold 30 per cent of foreign currencies bought or exchanged against the baht, except those related to exports, said BOT governor Tarisa Watanagase. Korn said that the damage caused by the measures could be overwhelming. Besides, there's rule from the financial institutions that they cannot invest in countries with capital control. He said the capital market in Chile for instance was damaged by 10 years while Malaysia was damaged by 3 to 4 years. He said Bank of Thailand should implement the separate measures to deal with money and financial capital markets. Speculators are mostly in the bond markets. Bank of Thailand should separate the measurement in money and capital markets speculators are mostly bond market. The Nation > > http://www.nationmultimedia.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Dear Jorge, Thanks for the additional information. I erected the chart in sidereal zodiac based on the information in the book. The rising degree shown in tropical is 14° 11' Taurus. The cited in the text of the book is 6:54 AM. However, the time shown in the chart is 6:34 AM. The author, Nicholas Campion, has evidently made an adjustment to arrive at 14° 11' Taurus degree. For this date, 21 April 1782, the ayanamsa is given as 20° 49'. Hence when we substract this from 14° 11'' we obtain 23° 22' Aries. Using LMT of -7:00 and time of 6:54 AM in Jyotish Tools yields 23° 56'. Using LMT of -6:42 and time of 6:34 AM gives 23° 23'. So, there is some uncertainty involved about the exact time or degree as far as what local information regarding this event is suggesting or what Campion had in mind, but predictions should sort it out in due time. That said, the events of recent days give some indication the 24° is important. Best regards, C SAMVA , " jorge angelino " <jorge.angelino wrote: > > OK my dear Cosmologer. > > However, until April 1st, 1920, Thailand had Local Time which means GMT+6h42m in Bangkok, on April 21, 1782. Only after that date it became GMT+7h00m in all the country. DST=0 always. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of cosmologer > terça-feira, 19 de Dezembro de 2006 13:32 > SAMVA > Re: Thailand - share prices plunge > > Dear Jorge, > > Thank you for the information. We are generally in agreement on this > time. However, I am tentatively using the 24° Aries rising for three > reasons: > > - the natal nodes are closely afflicting the MEPs > - transit L6 Mercury is currently afflicting H8 and H2 > - it is the time identified by Thai astrologers, as per the Book of > World Horoscopes. > > The issue of exact MEP degree is an empirical matter which > predictions should settle in due course. > > Best regards, > > C > > SAMVA , " jorge angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > wrote: > > > > Dear C, > > > > > > > > The Ascendant of the rectified chart for Thailand is 28:48 Aries > instead of 23:56 Aries. > > > > > > > > Since December 2, at 03:42 GMT, Thailand has been in Ju/Ma/Ma. > Natal Mars is placed in H2 (gains). Since that date, transit Jupiter > and Mars have been badly placed in H8 and for some time under the > affliction of Mercury. Besides the MEP5 (investments) and MEP11 > (gains) are afflicted by transit Rahu/Ketu axis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On > Behalf Of Cosmologer > > terça-feira, 19 de Dezembro de 2006 08:09 > > samva > > Thailand - share prices plunge > > > > > > > > Hello list, > > > > > > > > Stock prices in Thailand have plunged yesterday and today due to > measures taken by the military government to stem the rise of the > Bhat. The measures are sudden and draconian and have sparked fear in > the investment community. > > > > > > > > In the 24° Aries rising chart for Thailand (attached), the birth > of the Chakri Dynasty, the Ju/Mo period is running. Transit L4 Moon > is in H8 with L6 Mercury and two other planets, L1 Mars and L7 > Jupiter. L6 Mercury is afflicting H8 and H2. Natally, the nodes are > in H12 and H6 and afflict the even numbered houses, including H4, > owned by the Moon. > > > > > > > > The Asian crisis was sparked in 1996 when the Thai Bhat fell > sharply. Let's hope this is a short term development and not > indicative of further problems in the region. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > C > > > > > > > > Stock index still plunge after SET resume trading > > HYPERLINK " http://www.nationmultimedia.com/images/space.gif " > > The SET resumes stock trading at noon. The SET index fell further > by 13.74 per cent or 100.37 points to 630.18 at 12.12pm. Bank of > Thailand has asked all brokerage companies to discuss about the issue > on 1.30pm. > > > > Key Democrat Party member Korn Chatikavanij urged the Bank of > Thailand to immediately reverse the recently-introduced measure to > intervene the currency, saying that it would cause the damages to the > capital market for years. > > > > Today, Thai share prices plunged by 10 per cent at 11:30 am after > the central bank took the most stringent measures since the 1997 > Asian financial crisis to curb the baht's rise. > > > > The Stock Exchange of Thailand implemented the circuit breaker > measure for the first time in history to deal with the drop by > suspending the trading for 30 minutes at 11:30 hours. > > > > At 11:30, the SET nosedived to 656.49, the lowest point of the day > so far. The Stock Exchange of Thailand (SET) composite index > nosedived 64.62 points or 8.85 per cent to 665.93 in the first > minutes of trading and the bluechip SET 50 index fell 53.10 points to > 458.90. > > > > Korn said: " The measure causes the damage to the capital market. > The Bank of Thailand should immediately reverse this policy, because > no investors who will want to spend Bt100 just to have Bt30 withheld. > And if they will get only Bt90 if they want to remit the money in > less than one year. " > > > > Starting from Tuesday, financial institutions would be required to > withhold 30 per cent of foreign currencies bought or exchanged > against the baht, except those related to exports, said BOT governor > Tarisa Watanagase. > > > > Korn said that the damage caused by the measures could be > overwhelming. Besides, there's rule from the financial institutions > that they cannot invest in countries with capital control. He said > the capital market in Chile for instance was damaged by 10 years > while Malaysia was damaged by 3 to 4 years. > > > > He said Bank of Thailand should implement the separate measures to > deal with money and financial capital markets. Speculators are mostly > in the bond markets. Bank of Thailand should separate the measurement > in money and capital markets speculators are mostly bond market. > > > > The Nation > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.nationmultimedia.com/ " http://www.nationmultimedi > a.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: > 14.12.2006 19:28 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: > 14.12.2006 19:28 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Dear C, I have a revised and updated edition of " The Book of World Horoscopes " from 2004. It is unclear as he presents a chart for 6 Apr 1782, at 6:54 LMT, (rising degree 03º 16' tropical) but speaks of 21 Apr 1782 in the text. Some mistake must be there... You may be right. I will look again to the rectification work done on November 4, 2004. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of cosmologer quarta-feira, 20 de Dezembro de 2006 09:07 SAMVA Re: Thailand - share prices plunge Dear Jorge, Thanks for the additional information. I erected the chart in sidereal zodiac based on the information in the book. The rising degree shown in tropical is 14° 11' Taurus. The cited in the text of the book is 6:54 AM. However, the time shown in the chart is 6:34 AM. The author, Nicholas Campion, has evidently made an adjustment to arrive at 14° 11' Taurus degree. For this date, 21 April 1782, the ayanamsa is given as 20° 49'. Hence when we substract this from 14° 11'' we obtain 23° 22' Aries. Using LMT of -7:00 and time of 6:54 AM in Jyotish Tools yields 23° 56'. Using LMT of -6:42 and time of 6:34 AM gives 23° 23'. So, there is some uncertainty involved about the exact time or degree as far as what local information regarding this event is suggesting or what Campion had in mind, but predictions should sort it out in due time. That said, the events of recent days give some indication the 24° is important. Best regards, C SAMVA , " jorge angelino " <jorge.angelino wrote: > > OK my dear Cosmologer. > > However, until April 1st, 1920, Thailand had Local Time which means GMT+6h42m in Bangkok, on April 21, 1782. Only after that date it became GMT+7h00m in all the country. DST=0 always. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of cosmologer > terça-feira, 19 de Dezembro de 2006 13:32 > SAMVA > Re: Thailand - share prices plunge > > Dear Jorge, > > Thank you for the information. We are generally in agreement on this > time. However, I am tentatively using the 24° Aries rising for three > reasons: > > - the natal nodes are closely afflicting the MEPs > - transit L6 Mercury is currently afflicting H8 and H2 > - it is the time identified by Thai astrologers, as per the Book of > World Horoscopes. > > The issue of exact MEP degree is an empirical matter which > predictions should settle in due course. > > Best regards, > > C > > SAMVA , " jorge angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > wrote: > > > > Dear C, > > > > > > > > The Ascendant of the rectified chart for Thailand is 28:48 Aries > instead of 23:56 Aries. > > > > > > > > Since December 2, at 03:42 GMT, Thailand has been in Ju/Ma/Ma. > Natal Mars is placed in H2 (gains). Since that date, transit Jupiter > and Mars have been badly placed in H8 and for some time under the > affliction of Mercury. Besides the MEP5 (investments) and MEP11 > (gains) are afflicted by transit Rahu/Ketu axis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On > Behalf Of Cosmologer > > terça-feira, 19 de Dezembro de 2006 08:09 > > samva > > Thailand - share prices plunge > > > > > > > > Hello list, > > > > > > > > Stock prices in Thailand have plunged yesterday and today due to > measures taken by the military government to stem the rise of the > Bhat. The measures are sudden and draconian and have sparked fear in > the investment community. > > > > > > > > In the 24° Aries rising chart for Thailand (attached), the birth > of the Chakri Dynasty, the Ju/Mo period is running. Transit L4 Moon > is in H8 with L6 Mercury and two other planets, L1 Mars and L7 > Jupiter. L6 Mercury is afflicting H8 and H2. Natally, the nodes are > in H12 and H6 and afflict the even numbered houses, including H4, > owned by the Moon. > > > > > > > > The Asian crisis was sparked in 1996 when the Thai Bhat fell > sharply. Let's hope this is a short term development and not > indicative of further problems in the region. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > C > > > > > > > > Stock index still plunge after SET resume trading > > HYPERLINK " http://www.nationmultimedia.com/images/space.gif " > > The SET resumes stock trading at noon. The SET index fell further > by 13.74 per cent or 100.37 points to 630.18 at 12.12pm. Bank of > Thailand has asked all brokerage companies to discuss about the issue > on 1.30pm. > > > > Key Democrat Party member Korn Chatikavanij urged the Bank of > Thailand to immediately reverse the recently-introduced measure to > intervene the currency, saying that it would cause the damages to the > capital market for years. > > > > Today, Thai share prices plunged by 10 per cent at 11:30 am after > the central bank took the most stringent measures since the 1997 > Asian financial crisis to curb the baht's rise. > > > > The Stock Exchange of Thailand implemented the circuit breaker > measure for the first time in history to deal with the drop by > suspending the trading for 30 minutes at 11:30 hours. > > > > At 11:30, the SET nosedived to 656.49, the lowest point of the day > so far. The Stock Exchange of Thailand (SET) composite index > nosedived 64.62 points or 8.85 per cent to 665.93 in the first > minutes of trading and the bluechip SET 50 index fell 53.10 points to > 458.90. > > > > Korn said: " The measure causes the damage to the capital market. > The Bank of Thailand should immediately reverse this policy, because > no investors who will want to spend Bt100 just to have Bt30 withheld. > And if they will get only Bt90 if they want to remit the money in > less than one year. " > > > > Starting from Tuesday, financial institutions would be required to > withhold 30 per cent of foreign currencies bought or exchanged > against the baht, except those related to exports, said BOT governor > Tarisa Watanagase. > > > > Korn said that the damage caused by the measures could be > overwhelming. Besides, there's rule from the financial institutions > that they cannot invest in countries with capital control. He said > the capital market in Chile for instance was damaged by 10 years > while Malaysia was damaged by 3 to 4 years. > > > > He said Bank of Thailand should implement the separate measures to > deal with money and financial capital markets. Speculators are mostly > in the bond markets. Bank of Thailand should separate the measurement > in money and capital markets speculators are mostly bond market. > > > > The Nation > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.nationmultimedia.com/ " http://www.nationmultimedi > a.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: > 14.12.2006 19:28 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: > 14.12.2006 19:28 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Hi Jorge & Cosmologer There are two contradictory anecdotal histories of this event for the ground marker ceremony, the cornerstone placed at the foundation site's northeast corner of the to-be-erected Bangkok Royal Palace: [1] One tale has it that the marker was ceremonially placed at 54 minutes after sunrise (dawn) on April 21, 1782. [2] The other tale has it that Rama I instructed that the marker be placed at 15 minutes after midnight, 00:15 hrs on April 21, 1782. Take your pick: Tale #1 or Tale #2. Now an added complication: Determining how the time moment of sunrise was measured that day remains an open question. Sunrise surely was earlier than 06:00 hrs, but how much earlier?. Then there are yet other complications. King Rama I ascended to the throne two weeks earlier, on April 6, 1782, at the moment he personally took a club and bludgeoned to death his predecessor [no assassins need apply]. His ascension should not be confused with his subsequent coronation, which ceremony was held some two months later, in early June 1782. And yet, we are to believe that the birth of the modern Thai nation [actually, the modern Siamese Nation] was actuated by the Bangkok Palace construction's groundbreaking ceremony which also happens to have been the commemorating event for the birth of the City of Bangkok. Birth of the CITY[?]; Birth of the NATION[?] . . . .Place your bets, ladies and gentlmen; which is it ?. Good Luck on this one. As actor Yul Brenner spoke the lines of King Rama IV in the stage and film Rogers & Hammerstein musical, THE KING AND I, some 50 years ago: quote "Such is a puzzlement" unquote. Yes ... A PUZZLEMENT !!!! cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear Jorge,Thanks for the additional information. I erected the chart in sidereal zodiac based on the information in the book. The rising degree shown in tropical is 14° 11' Taurus. The cited in the text of the book is 6:54 AM. However, the time shown in the chart is 6:34 AM. The author, Nicholas Campion, has evidently made an adjustment to arrive at 14° 11' Taurus degree. For this date, 21 April 1782, the ayanamsa is given as 20° 49'. Hence when we substract this from 14° 11'' we obtain 23° 22' Aries. Using LMT of -7:00 and time of 6:54 AM in Jyotish Tools yields 23° 56'. Using LMT of -6:42 and time of 6:34 AM gives 23° 23'. So, there is some uncertainty involved about the exact time or degree as far as what local information regarding this event is suggesting or what Campion had in mind, but predictions should sort it out in due time. That said, the events of recent days give some indication the 24° is important.Best regards,CSAMVA , "jorge angelino" <jorge.angelino wrote:>> OK my dear Cosmologer.> > However, until April 1st, 1920, Thailand had Local Time which means GMT+6h42m in Bangkok, on April 21, 1782. Only after that date it became GMT+7h00m in all the country. DST=0 always.> > Best wishes,> > Jorge> > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of cosmologer> terça-feira, 19 de Dezembro de 2006 13:32> SAMVA > Re: Thailand - share prices plunge> > Dear Jorge,> > Thank you for the information. We are generally in agreement on this > time. However, I am tentatively using the 24° Aries rising for three > reasons:> > - the natal nodes are closely afflicting the MEPs> - transit L6 Mercury is currently afflicting H8 and H2> - it is the time identified by Thai astrologers, as per the Book of > World Horoscopes.> > The issue of exact MEP degree is an empirical matter which > predictions should settle in due course.> > Best regards,> > C> > SAMVA , "jorge angelino" <jorge.angelino@> > wrote:> >> > Dear C,> > > > > > > > The Ascendant of the rectified chart for Thailand is 28:48 Aries > instead of 23:56 Aries. > > > > > > > > Since December 2, at 03:42 GMT, Thailand has been in Ju/Ma/Ma. > Natal Mars is placed in H2 (gains). Since that date, transit Jupiter > and Mars have been badly placed in H8 and for some time under the > affliction of Mercury. Besides the MEP5 (investments) and MEP11 > (gains) are afflicted by transit Rahu/Ketu axis.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > Jorge> > > > > > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On > Behalf Of Cosmologer> > terça-feira, 19 de Dezembro de 2006 08:09> > samva > > Thailand - share prices plunge> > > > > > > > Hello list,> > > > > > > > Stock prices in Thailand have plunged yesterday and today due to > measures taken by the military government to stem the rise of the > Bhat. The measures are sudden and draconian and have sparked fear in > the investment community.> > > > > > > > In the 24° Aries rising chart for Thailand (attached), the birth > of the Chakri Dynasty, the Ju/Mo period is running. Transit L4 Moon > is in H8 with L6 Mercury and two other planets, L1 Mars and L7 > Jupiter. L6 Mercury is afflicting H8 and H2. Natally, the nodes are > in H12 and H6 and afflict the even numbered houses, including H4, > owned by the Moon.> > > > > > > > The Asian crisis was sparked in 1996 when the Thai Bhat fell > sharply. Let's hope this is a short term development and not > indicative of further problems in the region.> > > > > > > > Best regards,> > > > > > > > C> > > > > > > > Stock index still plunge after SET resume trading> > HYPERLINK " http://www.nationmultimedia.com/images/space.gif' alt='' class='ipsImage' >"> > The SET resumes stock trading at noon. The SET index fell further > by 13.74 per cent or 100.37 points to 630.18 at 12.12pm. Bank of > Thailand has asked all brokerage companies to discuss about the issue > on 1.30pm. > > > > Key Democrat Party member Korn Chatikavanij urged the Bank of > Thailand to immediately reverse the recently-introduced measure to > intervene the currency, saying that it would cause the damages to the > capital market for years. > > > > Today, Thai share prices plunged by 10 per cent at 11:30 am after > the central bank took the most stringent measures since the 1997 > Asian financial crisis to curb the baht's rise. > > > > The Stock Exchange of Thailand implemented the circuit breaker > measure for the first time in history to deal with the drop by > suspending the trading for 30 minutes at 11:30 hours. > > > > At 11:30, the SET nosedived to 656.49, the lowest point of the day > so far. The Stock Exchange of Thailand (SET) composite index > nosedived 64.62 points or 8.85 per cent to 665.93 in the first > minutes of trading and the bluechip SET 50 index fell 53.10 points to > 458.90. > > > > Korn said: "The measure causes the damage to the capital market. > The Bank of Thailand should immediately reverse this policy, because > no investors who will want to spend Bt100 just to have Bt30 withheld. > And if they will get only Bt90 if they want to remit the money in > less than one year." > > > > Starting from Tuesday, financial institutions would be required to > withhold 30 per cent of foreign currencies bought or exchanged > against the baht, except those related to exports, said BOT governor > Tarisa Watanagase. > > > > Korn said that the damage caused by the measures could be > overwhelming. Besides, there's rule from the financial institutions > that they cannot invest in countries with capital control. He said > the capital market in Chile for instance was damaged by 10 years > while Malaysia was damaged by 3 to 4 years. > > > > He said Bank of Thailand should implement the separate measures to > deal with money and financial capital markets. Speculators are mostly > in the bond markets. Bank of Thailand should separate the measurement > in money and capital markets speculators are mostly bond market. > > > > The Nation> > > > > > > HYPERLINK "http://www.nationmultimedia.com/"http://www.nationmultimedi> a.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release > 14.12.2006 19:28> > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release > 14.12.2006 19:28> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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