Guest guest Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Hi Sally, More in unknown about events in Jesus' life than is known. Especially in a case like this, I'd err on the side of initial impression without looking too deeply. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sally Spencer " <sally234 <SAMVA > Saturday, December 30, 2006 7:02 PM [bulk] Re: Re: Sai Baba on Jesus' birth > Hello Vyas, > > Thank you for doing this. I totally see your point with the Sun and Mars. > (I am posting the JH chart here).. > > http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k25/Devi234/chart.jpg > > One point; he was an enemy of the state, the Sun, as well as the general > public, 10L. He was ultimately murdered by the state (Su/Mars exact) > Also, > sixth lord Mars, on the Sun..his career was service and it was to the > sick > and needy. He was paid very little, therefore his assets, Mars, were few > and meager. These all explain debilitation. A luminary soul who took on > a > meager existence to live with those who needed his Light the most and were > in a position to listen the most, makes moving sense to me. > > Thank you for the opportunity to discuss such a figure in history. > > I also like the Scorpio rising, as I have found Scorpio people to be deep, > mysterious and always have a life of trials bordering on the fantastic. > > Much aloha, > > Sally > > > P. S. As for the Moon in the eighth, I believe he was a master of the > occult. It would also speak to his father, who by my imagination would > have > faced many obstacles in life. > Come to think of it, the Essenes was an esoteric teaching at the time and > would represent the eighth house. > > Also, his knowledge certainly didn't come from religion, the ninth house, > but from teachings, voices from within, God. He ended up teaching the > teachers of the day. He must have encountered numerous obstacles As > well > as learning in secret societies, underground if you will. > > He brought teachings, 9H to change the beliefs of the masses (8H). > > Moon is well placed in the fifth with Mercury (N-8L) in navamsa. Occult > knowledge. > Also, Moon travel lord, in eighth signifies secret travel later in life. > > Go here to view navamsa from JH. > http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k25/Devi234/chart-1.jpg > > Ketu and Venus are well placed in the fourth house. > The dispositor, Saturn is well placed in the third, own sign. They reside > in Aquarius the sign of revolutionary movements. > > HIs mother was a woman among women, Venus in the fourth. > > His teachings were foremost about Love..Venus 12 L in house of education > and > mother, with the karaka for enlightenment. > > The Sun (career lord) and Mercury (aspirations, associates) are well > placed > in the third, house of communications. Their dispositor is in it's own > house, Saturn, the karaka for the working class, the masses. > > Jupiter, second lord of speech, wealth and status is very well placed in > the > first house. As he was the teaching, not so much his job. The lord of > Jupiter is in the eighth which is disturbing however it is the house of > the > occult and secrets and I've read esoteric teachings where he underwent > severe trials of disturbances (petty tyrant) and days underground to face > fears. > > Jupiter is also well placed with Saturn, the masses in the house of others > in the navamsa. > > Jupiter is the karaka for teacher, as well as natural signifier for the > ninth house of philosophy and fortune. > > The Sun, lord of the chart, is in the sign of Capricorn with the lord of > that sign. > > Saturn (Most benefic planet), lord of the mind I just saw, is right on the > mep of the third house! This is his legacy, fourth lord on the third, > educating the people...fourth has Venus and Ketu~ > > It aspects fifth house of higher knowledge, intellect, children, emotional > health. It aspects the ninth house of philosophy, religion, father, > travel. And it aspects twelfth house of foreign stays and moksha, final > liberation.....which is hosted by strong Venus (he was resurrected) > > So I don't know, all things considered I really like this chart for these > reasons. > > I did go on;) > > Also, Venus goes to the twelfth house in navamsa, his dharma was final > liberation. > The Sun is exalted in navamsa. And Jupiter is in Leo... > The mundane life had trials but the results were better shown in navmasa. > Moon in fifth etc. > > The lord of navamsa was in seventh house with an exalted Sun and Jupiter; > lord of gains and aspirations as well as teacher karaka and major > beneficent. > > The Moon , fortune in the eighth, Gemini...he was born in a manger > afterall, > with farm animals. There was no room at the inn..major obstacle. > > HIs father was a carpenter, Gemini, tradesman. > > I can find lots of things..if I keep looking, I suppose. > > I also tend to trust illumined information, even if the source may be > questionable, rather than the textbooks in cases of history so far back. > In > any case, I have enjoyed this foray into this chart, as it illumined the > life of Jesus for me. > > Thanks again for everyone's help.)) > > > > > On 12/30/06, Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: >> >> Hi Sally, >> >> With that data, we get a Sc Asc 20:33 on a Thursday. I have included the >> data from astro.com for reference of the planetary positions per the >> Vedic >> system. I have attached the picture of the output to note the planetary >> degrees. >> >> For such a personality, I imagine that both the Sun and Jupiter would >> have >> to be very strong, in addition to a stong H9. In this chart, the Sun is >> exactly afflicted by deb Mars. LO9, Moon is badly placed in old age in >> H8. >> I >> don't have a D9 table to check for weakness there. My initial impression >> is >> that this data is innacurate. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Some interesting facts from Sai Baba about Jesus: >> > >> > " There are various theories about the date of the birth of Jesus based >> on >> > the " bright star that appeared on the birth " . It is visible once in >> > 800 >> > years, it is said. Some say he was born on the 15th of September. >> > But, >> >> > he >> > was born at 3:15 a.m. on December 28, 2017 years ago, (figured from >> 2006). >> > It was Sunday. The Star that appeared that day appears only once in >> > 800 >> > years. It's appearance had nothing to do with the birth of >> Jesus. There >> > is >> > no rule that, when Christ Energy of Devine Incarnation descends on >> Earth, >> > a >> > star has to appear. That is the opinion of devotees only. But Jesus >> > was >> > himself a " Star " of infinite value, spreading brilliance of infinite >> > dimension. Why posit another less brilliant glow? " >> > >> > On 12/30/06, ronate12 <ronate12 wrote: >> >> >> >> Can anyone tell me what did Sai Baba Say exactly was Jesus Birth info? >> >> > > Sally Spencer, Jyotish Kovid > A Gentle Journey to Deep Healing > Ascension work, Vedic Astrology*, > Western Astrology reports > www.Devi3.byregion.net > sally234 > > *Vedic Astrology, a co creative sacred science, > which determines, strengthens or propitiates > planetary results. > > www.EnlightenedLiving/ > AscensionJoys > http://www.feed333.com/?fid=1132935049 > http://health.ElectroMagneticHealth/ > http://www.mybiopro.com/Home.aspx?ID=SallySpencer > > > It is your turn now, you waited, you were patient. > The time has come, for us to polish you. > We will transform your inner pearl into a house of fire. > You're a gold mine. Did you know that, hidden in the dirt of the earth? > It is your turn now, to be placed in fire. > Let us cremate your impurities. > Rumi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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