Differentiate between the elected government & de facto government

[Guest guest]

Dear C.

 

As the independence was given by UK, the rectified hour came out to be 12:00 AM.

 

Independence of Burma 1. -

(1) On the appointed day, Burma shall become an independent country, neither forming part of His Majesty's dominions nor entitled to His Majesty's protection.

(2) In this Act, the expression " the appointed day " means the fourth day of January, nineteen hundred and forty-eight.

(3) The suzerainty of His Majesty over the part of Burma known as the Karenni States shall lapse as from the appointed day, and with it all treaties and agreements in force between His Majesty and the rulers of the Karenni States, all functions exercisable by His Majesty with respect to the Karenni States, all obligations of His Majesty towards the Karenni States or the rulers thereof, and all powers, rights, authority or jurisdiction exercisable by His Majesty in or in relation to the Karenni States by treaty, grant, usage, sufferance or otherwise.

http://www.ibiblio.org/freeburma/docs/burma_independence_docs.html

Regaining of independence

The British scheme to practise divide-and-rule policy failed as all the national people showed their unity by signing the Panlong Agreement on 12 February 1947. Myanmar became an independent and sovereign nation on 4 January ] 948 as struggles were launched with the spirit of national solidarity forged at the Panlong Conference as the base.

 

At the Secretariat (now, the Office of the Ministers) at 4.20 am on 4 January 1948, the Independence Day flag hoisting ceremony was held. After independence declaration paper was read, the government was formed and Shan national Sao Shwe Thaik was declared the first president of the Union of Myanmar.

 

http://www.myanmar.com/Union/independence.html

The rectified chart is:

BURMA Jan 4, 1948 12:00 AM -06:30 NSTRangoon, Burma Longitude: 96E10 Latitude: 16N47Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:07 Current Period: SA/JU/ME

 

Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord================================================Asc 17:23 Vir Hasta MoSun 19:07 Sag +01:01:10 FM P.Shadya VeMoon 22:22 Vir +13:24:11 WK Hasta MoMars 14:19 Leo +00:03:38 FM P.Phalguni VeMerc 19:14 Sag +01:36:53 CM P.Shadya VeJupt 22:35 Sco +00:12:47 WK Jyeshtha Me

Ven 19:09 Cap +01:14:11 ST Shravana MoSat R 28:43 Can -00:03:08 FM Aslesha MeRahu 29:03 Ari +00:00:18 FM Krittika SuKetu 29:03 Lib +00:00:18 FM Vishakha Ju

True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 771 beatsDay: Sunday Sunrise: 6:37 AMTithi: Krishna AshtamiYoga Pt: 14:49 Vi Yogi:Mo AviYogi:Me Dup Yogi: MeDagha Rashis: Gem Vir

 

Rashi Chart******************************************************* ** 7 * * 5 ** *8 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * KE 29:03* MA 14:19* * * * * AS 17:23 * * * *JU 22:35 * 6 MO 22:22 * 4 SAR28:43* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** SU 19:07 * * ** *9 ME 19:14 * 3 * ** * * ** *10* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *VE 19:09 * 12 * 2 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * RA 29:03 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** 11 * * 1 ** *******************************************************

Navamsha******************************************************* ** 4 * * 2 ** *5 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * MO * * * * * * * AS * * * *MA * 3 VE * 1 * * * * KE * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** SU * * ** *6 ME * 12 SAR * ** * * ** *7 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 9 RA * 11 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * JU * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** 8 * * 10 ** *******************************************************

Best wishes,

Jorge

 

On 1/1/07, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

 

 

Dear Mr. Soe and list,

 

Burma has had a military dictatorship for almost six decades.

 

In the Book of World Horoscopes (1996 ed.) we find that " Full independence was granted at 4:20 AM on 4 January 1948, 'the hour having been chosen by Burmese astrologers as auspicious'. " p. 106.

 

In this 18° Scorpio rising chart, L6 Mars is placed at 14° Leo on H10 MEP. As such, the sixth lord is aspecting H1, which is suggestive of military government. Moreover, L12 Venus is at 19° Capricorn on H3 MEP suggestive of secrecy or deception in communication.

 

 

Favourably, L2 Jupiter is at 22° Scorpio and H1 MEP, aspecting H5, H7 and H9. L10 Sun is at 19° Sagittarius exactly conjunct L11 Mercury in H2 MEP. Finally, L9 Moon is well placed and strong in H11. Certainly, the above factors would help to explain why such a military regime has remained in place for so long.

 

 

At the same time, the affliction of L6 Mars on H4 MEP, affliction of L12 Venus of H9 and weakness of L4 Saturn in H9 would explain the harsh conditions of the people.

 

Best regards,

 

C

 

 

Dear Professor,

Thanks for your suggestion,

with wishes for you and your family " HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007 "

 

Khin Maung Soe.siha wrote:

 

 

Hello Mr. Soe,It is difficult to find out for certain. The strong influence of the lord of the sixth house on the 1st, third or fourth houses can indicate a govt other than elected.Best wishes,

- " Khin Maung Soe " <

kmsoe2001<

SAMVA >Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:19 PM Differentiate between the elected government & de facto government.> Dear Professor and repected astrologers,

> Using the System's approah, how we can diffenentiate the planet> signifying the Elected Government & that's representing the de facto> government, such as military regime.> Thanks you very much for your kindly advice.

>> Khin Maung Soe.>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jorge,

 

Thank you for the additional information.

 

For the time being, I am going with the information in Book of World

Horoscopes. Interestingly, the information submitted by you also

contains the 4:20 AM hour that was selected by astrologers.

 

As before, predictions will be necessary to resolve the question of

authenticity of a given birth chart.

 

Best regards,

 

C

 

SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino

wrote:

>

> Dear C.

>

> As the independence was given by UK, the rectified hour came out to

be 12:00

> AM.

>

> Independence of Burma

> 1. -

>

> (1) On the appointed day, Burma shall become an independent

country, neither

> forming part of His Majesty's dominions nor entitled to His

Majesty's

> protection.

>

> (2) In this Act, the expression " the appointed day " means the

fourth day of

> January, nineteen hundred and forty-eight.

>

> (3) The suzerainty of His Majesty over the part of Burma known as

the

> Karenni States shall lapse as from the appointed day, and with it

all

> treaties and agreements in force between His Majesty and the rulers

of the

> Karenni States, all functions exercisable by His Majesty with

respect to the

> Karenni States, all obligations of His Majesty towards the Karenni

States or

> the rulers thereof, and all powers, rights, authority or

jurisdiction

> exercisable by His Majesty in or in relation to the Karenni States

by

> treaty, grant, usage, sufferance or otherwise.

>

> http://www.ibiblio.org/freeburma/docs/burma_independence_docs.html

>

> Regaining of independence

>

> The British scheme to practise divide-and-rule policy failed as all

the

> national people showed their unity by signing the Panlong Agreement

on 12

> February 1947. Myanmar became an independent and sovereign nation

on 4

> January ] 948 as struggles were launched with the spirit of national

> solidarity forged at the Panlong Conference as the base.

>

> At the Secretariat (now, the Office of the Ministers) at 4.20 am on

4

> January 1948, the Independence Day flag hoisting ceremony was held.

After

> independence declaration paper was read, the government was formed

and Shan

> national Sao Shwe Thaik was declared the first president of the

Union of

> Myanmar.

>

> http://www.myanmar.com/Union/independence.html

> The rectified chart is:

> *BURMA*

> Jan 4, 1948 12:00 AM -06:30 NST

> Rangoon, Burma Longitude: 96E10 Latitude: 16N47

> Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:07 Current Period: SA/JU/ME

>

> Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

> ================================================

> Asc 17:23 Vir Hasta Mo

> Sun 19:07 Sag +01:01:10 FM P.Shadya Ve

> Moon 22:22 Vir +13:24:11 WK Hasta Mo

> Mars 14:19 Leo +00:03:38 FM P.Phalguni Ve

> Merc 19:14 Sag +01:36:53 CM P.Shadya Ve

> Jupt 22:35 Sco +00:12:47 WK Jyeshtha Me

> Ven 19:09 Cap +01:14:11 ST Shravana Mo

> Sat R 28:43 Can -00:03:08 FM Aslesha Me

> Rahu 29:03 Ari +00:00:18 FM Krittika Su

> Ketu 29:03 Lib +00:00:18 FM Vishakha Ju

>

> True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 771 beats

> Day: Sunday Sunrise: 6:37 AM

> Tithi: Krishna Ashtami

> Yoga Pt: 14:49 Vi Yogi:Mo AviYogi:Me Dup Yogi: Me

> Dagha Rashis: Gem Vir

>

> Rashi Chart

> *******************************************************

> ** 7 * * 5 **

> *8 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * KE 29:03* MA 14:19* *

> * * * AS 17:23 * * *

> *JU 22:35 * 6 MO 22:22 * 4 SAR28:43*

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** SU 19:07 * * **

> *9 ME 19:14 * 3 *

> ** * * **

> *10* * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> *VE 19:09 * 12 * 2 *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * RA 29:03 * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** 11 * * 1 **

> *******************************************************

>

> Navamsha

> *******************************************************

> ** 4 * * 2 **

> *5 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * MO * * * *

> * * * AS * * *

> *MA * 3 VE * 1 *

> * * * KE * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** SU * * **

> *6 ME * 12 SAR *

> ** * * **

> *7 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * 9 RA * 11 *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * JU * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** 8 * * 10 **

> *******************************************************

>

> Best wishes,

> Jorge

>

>

>

> On 1/1/07, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Soe and list,

> >

> > Burma has had a military dictatorship for almost six decades.

> >

> > In the Book of World Horoscopes (1996 ed.) we find that " Full

independence

> > was granted at 4:20 AM on 4 January 1948,* 'the hour having been

chosen by

> > Burmese astrologers as auspicious'*. " p. 106.

> >

> > In this 18° Scorpio rising chart, L6 Mars is placed at 14° Leo

on H10 MEP.

> > As such, the sixth lord is aspecting H1, which is suggestive of

military

> > government. Moreover, L12 Venus is at 19° Capricorn on H3 MEP

suggestive of

> > secrecy or deception in communication.

> >

> > Favourably, L2 Jupiter is at 22° Scorpio and H1 MEP, aspecting

H5, H7 and

> > H9. L10 Sun is at 19° Sagittarius exactly conjunct L11 Mercury

in H2 MEP.

> > Finally, L9 Moon is well placed and strong in H11. Certainly, the

above

> > factors would help to explain why such a military regime has

remained in

> > place for so long.

> >

> > At the same time, the affliction of L6 Mars on H4 MEP, affliction

of

> > L12 Venus of H9 and weakness of L4 Saturn in H9 would explain the

harsh

> > conditions of the people.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > C

> >

> >

> > Dear Professor,

> > Thanks for your suggestion,

> > with wishes for you and your family " HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007 "

> >

> > Khin Maung Soe.

> >

> > *siha@* wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hello Mr. Soe,

> >

> > It is difficult to find out for certain. The strong influence of

the lord

> > of

> > the sixth house on the 1st, third or fourth houses can indicate a

govt

> > other

> > than elected.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > " Khin Maung Soe "

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> > To:

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> > >

> > Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:19 PM

> > Differentiate between the elected government &

de facto

> > government.

> >

> > > Dear Professor and repected astrologers,

> > > Using the System's approah, how we can diffenentiate the planet

> > > signifying the Elected Government & that's representing the de

facto

> > > government, such as military regime.

> > > Thanks you very much for your kindly advice.

> > >

> > > Khin Maung Soe.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >