Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Dear List, I forgot to include the subject of this email. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> <SAMVA >; " JohnTWB " <blazingstar1776 Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:04 AM Dear List, Inspired by John TWB to look at natural disasters in the USA, I have started to take a look at earthquakes. John sent me 24 pages of the account of the New Madrid earthquakes that took place from Dec 1811 to Feb 1812. A shortened account is available here on the USGS website: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/events/1811-1812.php#december_16 which begins the account as follows: " On the basis of the large area of damage (600,000 square kilometers), the widespread area of perceptibility (5,000,000 square kilometers), and the complex physiographic changes that occurred, the Mississippi River valley earthquakes of 1811-1812 rank as some of the largest in the United States since its settlement by Europeans. The area of strong shaking associated with these shocks is two to three times larger than that of the 1964 Alaska earthquake and 10 times larger than that of the 1906 San Francisco earthquake. " It continues on in some detail and I encourage you to read the rest of it. What follows below are my comparison of the the SAMVA USA and the Rectified charts for the three key dates when the quakes were at their worst. The charts are included with their relevant text. The final date was the most destructive of all and flattened New Madrid. You may draw your own conclusions about my assessment of these two, but what stands out is the SAMVA USA chart in every instance. I have not looked deeply to justify - it jumps out at you. If you find this of value, time permitting, in the future I will post the charts of other major USA quakes and natural disasters of historic relevance. I encourage you to also look at a few of these events given on http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/historical.php and post. ********************************************************************************\ ********************************** The SAMVA Chart, " Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union " ********************************************************************************\ ********************************** 1811, December 16, 08:15 UTC. Northeast Arkansas Magnitude ~8.1 1811, December 16, 14:15 UTC, Northeast Arkansas Magnitude ~8.1 Key points here are afflictions to H4/LO4 (Ve) and H1/LO1 (Mo). Sub period of Ve. LO4 and LO1 afflicted. All even houses afflicted. Tr axis afflicts their natal position very closely. Su, Mo, Me, Ve, FM Sa in H6. Tr and na Ra afflict tr Ve, na Ve, Me, and the Mo. LO6 Ju from H12, closely afflicts LO8 Sa in H8. This chart bodes well for the observed eqrthquakes. ********************************************************************************\ ********************************** The Rectified Chart, " Declaration of Independance " ********************************************************************************\ ********************************** 1811, December 16, 08:15 UTC. Northeast Arkansas Magnitude ~8.1 1811, December 16, 14:15 UTC, Northeast Arkansas Magnitude ~8.1 Key points here are afflictions to H4/LO4 (Sa) and H1/LO1. Sub period of Mars. Neither H1 or H4/L04 are afflicted. No houses are afflicted. FB Mo, Me are close to each other and LO12 Ve. Ve does not afflict that house or any planet in transit. Tr Ve-na Su aspect is present, but inconsequential. Ju is the dispositor of the Su, Sa, Mo, Me and Ve and is badly placed in H8. This Ju is aspected closely by Saturn. LO6, Ma is well placed and unafflicting. This chart does not show the earthquakes. ********************************************************************************\ ********************************** The SAMVA Chart, " Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union " ********************************************************************************\ ********************************** 1812, January 23, 15:00 UTC, New Madrid, Missouri Magnitude ~7.8 Key points here are afflictions to H4/LO4 (Ve) and H1/LO1 (Mo). Sub period of Venus Su, Mo, and Mars are well placed in odd houses, in good strength. LO4 Ve in H8, exactly afflicted by LO6 Jupiter from H12. Natal and transit axis positions exactly afflict each other within 30 minutes and are close to all even houses; badly placed Ke is noteable. Sa and Ju are badly placed. This chart shows the disruption very well. ********************************************************************************\ ********************************** The Rectified Chart, " Declaration of Independance " ********************************************************************************\ ********************************** 1812, January 23, 15:00 UTC, New Madrid, Missouri Magnitude ~7.8 Key points here are afflictions to H4/LO4 (Sa) and H1/LO1. Sub period of Mars. The axis afflicts all even houses within 2 degrees. Saturn is placed in H2 under no direct affliction. It's dispositor Ju is weak by placement in H8. Ju-Ve helps reduce the tensions to Ve sitting in an afflicted H4 somewhat. Mars closely afflicts natal Ve from H5. This chart certainly does show tensions, but not a grand earthquake in comparison to the Cn chart. If Sa were afflicted directly, it would be on more even ground. ********************************************************************************\ ********************************** The SAMVA Chart, " Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union " ********************************************************************************\ ********************************** 1812, February 7, 09:45 UTC, New Madrid, Missouri Magnitude ~8 Key points here are afflictions to H4/LO4 (Ve) and H1/LO1 (Mo). Sub period of Venus The last of 4 shocks on this day, destroyed New Madrid. The axis exactly afflict their natal position within 1 degree and all even houses closely. From H6 MMP Sa closely afflicts Ke in H8. Ve is placed in H8 entering old age. Debilitated Mo becomes exact to natal Saturn by the time the 4th shock hits and thereafter transits H6. Na Sa afflicts tr Su. The event is properly justified in this chart. ********************************************************************************\ ********************************** The Rectified Chart, " Declaration of Independance " ********************************************************************************\ ********************************** 1812, February 7, 09:45 UTC, New Madrid, Missouri Magnitude ~8 Key points here are afflictions to H4/LO4 (Sa) and H1/LO1. Sub period of Mars. The last of 4 shocks on this day, destroyed New Madrid. The axis exactly afflicts even houses within 2 degrees. Sa-Ke aspect reduces the negative impact on Ke on H4 somewhat. Na Ra afflicts tr Mars, which afflicts H8 where Ju sits; na Ju is also afflicted. Sa's dispositor is Ju and is placed in H2. The Moon is well placed in H1, though debilitated. This chart shows challenges more than the Jan 23 quake, but not catastrophic or dire to H4 or H1. 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Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Dear Vyas, Thank you for this magisterial contribution. Indeed, the SAMVA USA chart is being developed through a multitude of events examined. More importantly, such studies increase the knowledge of the properties of this chart. It is studies like this which give insight into what factors to look for in order to make correct predictions. Last year, I performed an exhaustive study of earthquakes in the authentic chart for Iceland. The study enabled me to correctly predict an earthquake in Iceland last October. The predictions made on the basis of this chart for next Spring will be decisive in establishing it as the authentic chart for the USA. Best wishes, C SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Dear List, > > I forgot to include the subject of this email. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " Vyas Munidas " <muni> > <SAMVA >; " JohnTWB " <blazingstar1776 > Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:04 AM > > > > Dear List, > > Inspired by John TWB to look at natural disasters in the USA, I have started > to take a look at earthquakes. John sent me 24 pages of the account of the > New Madrid earthquakes that took place from Dec 1811 to Feb 1812. A > shortened account is available here on the USGS website: > http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/events/1811- 1812.php#december_16 > which begins the account as follows: > " On the basis of the large area of damage (600,000 square kilometers), the > widespread area of perceptibility (5,000,000 square kilometers), and the > complex physiographic changes that occurred, the Mississippi River valley > earthquakes of 1811-1812 rank as some of the largest in the United States > since its settlement by Europeans. The area of strong shaking associated > with these shocks is two to three times larger than that of the 1964 Alaska > earthquake and 10 times larger than that of the 1906 San Francisco > earthquake. " > > It continues on in some detail and I encourage you to read the rest of it. > What follows below are my comparison of the the SAMVA USA and the Rectified > charts for the three key dates when the quakes were at their worst. The > charts are included with their relevant text. The final date was the most > destructive of all and flattened New Madrid. You may draw your own > conclusions about my assessment of these two, but what stands out is the > SAMVA USA chart in every instance. I have not looked deeply to justify - it > jumps out at you. > > If you find this of value, time permitting, in the future I will post the > charts of other major USA quakes and natural disasters of historic > relevance. I encourage you to also look at a few of these events given on > http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/historical.php and post. > > > > ********************************************************************** ******************************************** > The SAMVA Chart, " Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union " > ********************************************************************** ******************************************** > 1811, December 16, 08:15 UTC. Northeast Arkansas Magnitude ~8.1 > 1811, December 16, 14:15 UTC, Northeast Arkansas Magnitude ~8.1 > > Key points here are afflictions to H4/LO4 (Ve) and H1/LO1 (Mo). Sub period > of Ve. > LO4 and LO1 afflicted. All even houses afflicted. Tr axis afflicts their > natal position very closely. Su, Mo, Me, Ve, FM Sa in H6. Tr and na Ra > afflict tr Ve, na Ve, Me, and the Mo. LO6 Ju from H12, closely afflicts LO8 > Sa in H8. This chart bodes well for the observed eqrthquakes. > > ********************************************************************** ******************************************** > The Rectified Chart, " Declaration of Independance " > ********************************************************************** ******************************************** > 1811, December 16, 08:15 UTC. Northeast Arkansas Magnitude ~8.1 > 1811, December 16, 14:15 UTC, Northeast Arkansas Magnitude ~8.1 > > Key points here are afflictions to H4/LO4 (Sa) and H1/LO1. Sub period of > Mars. > Neither H1 or H4/L04 are afflicted. No houses are afflicted. FB Mo, Me are > close to each other and LO12 Ve. Ve does not afflict that house or any > planet in transit. Tr Ve-na Su aspect is present, but inconsequential. Ju is > the dispositor of the Su, Sa, Mo, Me and Ve and is badly placed in H8. This > Ju is aspected closely by Saturn. LO6, Ma is well placed and unafflicting. > This chart does not show the earthquakes. > > > > > > ********************************************************************** ******************************************** > The SAMVA Chart, " Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union " > ********************************************************************** ******************************************** > 1812, January 23, 15:00 UTC, New Madrid, Missouri Magnitude ~7.8 > > Key points here are afflictions to H4/LO4 (Ve) and H1/LO1 (Mo). Sub period > of Venus > Su, Mo, and Mars are well placed in odd houses, in good strength. LO4 Ve in > H8, exactly afflicted by LO6 Jupiter from H12. Natal and transit axis > positions exactly afflict each other within 30 minutes and are close to all > even houses; badly placed Ke is noteable. Sa and Ju are badly placed. This > chart shows the disruption very well. > > ********************************************************************** ******************************************** > The Rectified Chart, " Declaration of Independance " > ********************************************************************** ******************************************** > 1812, January 23, 15:00 UTC, New Madrid, Missouri Magnitude ~7.8 > > Key points here are afflictions to H4/LO4 (Sa) and H1/LO1. Sub period of > Mars. > The axis afflicts all even houses within 2 degrees. Saturn is placed in H2 > under no direct affliction. It's dispositor Ju is weak by placement in H8. > Ju-Ve helps reduce the tensions to Ve sitting in an afflicted H4 somewhat. > Mars closely afflicts natal Ve from H5. This chart certainly does show > tensions, but not a grand earthquake in comparison to the Cn chart. If Sa > were afflicted directly, it would be on more even ground. > > > > > > ********************************************************************** ******************************************** > The SAMVA Chart, " Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union " > ********************************************************************** ******************************************** > 1812, February 7, 09:45 UTC, New Madrid, Missouri Magnitude ~8 > > Key points here are afflictions to H4/LO4 (Ve) and H1/LO1 (Mo). Sub period > of Venus > The last of 4 shocks on this day, destroyed New Madrid. The axis exactly > afflict their natal position within 1 degree and all even houses closely. > From H6 MMP Sa closely afflicts Ke in H8. Ve is placed in H8 entering old > age. Debilitated Mo becomes exact to natal Saturn by the time the 4th shock > hits and thereafter transits H6. Na Sa afflicts tr Su. The event is properly > justified in this chart. > > ********************************************************************** ******************************************** > The Rectified Chart, " Declaration of Independance " > ********************************************************************** ******************************************** > 1812, February 7, 09:45 UTC, New Madrid, Missouri Magnitude ~8 > > Key points here are afflictions to H4/LO4 (Sa) and H1/LO1. Sub period of > Mars. > The last of 4 shocks on this day, destroyed New Madrid. The axis exactly > afflicts even houses within 2 degrees. Sa-Ke aspect reduces the negative > impact on Ke on H4 somewhat. Na Ra afflicts tr Mars, which afflicts H8 where > Ju sits; na Ju is also afflicted. Sa's dispositor is Ju and is placed in H2. > The Moon is well placed in H1, though debilitated. This chart shows > challenges more than the Jan 23 quake, but not catastrophic or dire to H4 > or H1. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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