Revolutionary war and the birth of America/ARTICLES

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Dear List, During the period of the Articles of Confederation 1781-1789, there were no federal laws, "as such". All acts of the "United States in Congress Assembled" [the proper name of the central government under the ARTICLES] were enforceable only thru the 13 States' authorities. So there were 13 states and

their sovereign powers to honor the terms and conditions of the ARTICLES, which document was really an interstate "treaty of friendship" as constitution. ARTICLES Enacted, then Ratified as signed &nbs

p; In early December 1777, each of the 13 States received copies of the proposed ARTICLES and an explanatory letter of transmittal from the Congress, dated November 17, 1777. This package was not sent until November 28th, by which date the Lancaster, PA printer had made sufficient copies for distribution. In turn, each State government proceeded, each at its own pace, to draft a bill for enactment of the ARTICLES as State law. The resulting drafted bill was considered prospectively as a two-fold enactment to become a Law of the State. The two parts

were: [1] an Act of accession to, and approbation of, certain proposed Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union among the several States of the United States of America, and Maryland enacted this on February 2, 1781 [2] to authorize the delegates of the State to the Continental Congress, subsequent to the above’s enactment, to ratify the same on the part and behalf of the State, in the Congress of the United States. Maryland's delegation of two, Daniel Carroll and John Hanson, signed on behalf of their State on March 1, 1781 Articles of Confederation & Perpetual Union: Enactment Dates: ARTICLES became State law this day [#1-r] Virginia ratified December 15, 1777 [#2-r] South Carolina ratified February 5, 1778 [#3-r] New York ratified February 16, 1778 [#4-r] Rhode Island ratified February 18, 1778 [#5-r] Connecticut ratified February 19, 1778 [#6-r] Georgia ratified February 26, 1778 [#7-r] New Hampshire ratified March 4, 1778 [#8-r] Pennsylvania ratified March 5, 1778 [#9-r] Massachusetts ratified March 10, 1778 [#10-r] North Carolina ratified April 25, 1778 [#11-r] New Jersey ratified, Nov 20, 1778 [#12-r] Delaware ratified Feb 1, 1779 [#13-r] Maryland ratified February 2, 1781 Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Cosmologer,Thank you for this post about the nature of the events in this time period.I believe that the very name of the Feb 2, 1881 event summarizes perfectly, "Articles of Confederation and PERPETUAL UNION," the finality of all previous supportive efforts and the birth of the nation. As you and the good professor have addressed very recently to Ron Day's post, the chart must match the entity, previous significant events and trends, and most importantly hold true for future predictions for confirmation. Only the latter remains from what we have tested and analyzed so far. Your relentless quest may be at an end in a few months.Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "cosmologer" <cosmologer ><SAMVA >Sunday, January 21,

2007 4:22 PM Revolutionary war and the birth of AmericaDear list members,In exploring the correspondances of Benjamin Franklin and also timelines of popular history webs it becomes apparent that the US wasborn at a time of great turmoil.The Revolutionary War raged from 1775 to 1783. It began on 18 April1775, when Massachussetts Governor,General Gage, "issued 700 Britishsoldiers to Concord to destroy the colonists' weapons depot". Thatnight, Paul Revere and William Dawes were sent from Boston to warncolonists. Revere reached Lexington about midnight and warned SamuelAdams and John Hancock who were hiding out. On 11 April 1783, eightyears from the start, the US Congress officially declared an end tothe Revolutionary War.In the midst of this epic struggle, the Articles of Confederation andPerpetual Union were conceived by the political leaders of the thenindependent colonies or

states in 1777. A "united, sovereign andnational state" was finally born on February 2, 1781 in Annapolis,Maryland, when the Governor of Maryland, Thomas Sim Lee, affixed hissignature to the document approving the formal ratification of theagreement.Interestingly, it becomes apparent in the letters of BenjaminFranklin to Governor Lee in December 1780 and in early February 1781,that he was mainly concerned with their united goal to successfullyprosecute the war and rid the country of the English. Perhaps thissense of common destinty was what motivated the Marylanders to signwith such seal and to find the hour that signalled such a gloriousdestiny. Certainly, the belated decision of Maryland to approve theArticles was a signal moment, which marked the birth of the nation ata time of conflict. Historians have remarked, even if the states,under the leadership of George Washington, were losing some battles,the war

allowed the independent States to continue to operate andprovide more armaments to the American militia who despite the lossespressed on in the independence struggle. In the background was thepolitical work to organise the new United States as the Americanleaders actively prosecuted - and ultimately won - the war. Theefforts to form the union and to win the war went hand in hand. Onecould not have gone without the other.Best regards,C

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Dear John,

 

Thank you for this information.

 

The nascent USA (1781-1789) reminds me of the current European Union.

It is at an early stage of union and is still expanding and there are

also no Federal laws.

 

Clearly, the fledgling US union needed further efforts to make it

more workable. The US constitution and later ammendments provided

that. Still, by 1781 the union had formed and was on its way.

 

The proof is in the pudding and we will see only a few weeks from now.

 

Best wishes,

 

C

 

 

 

SAMVA , JohnTWB <blazingstar1776 wrote:

>

>

> Dear List,

>

> During the period of the Articles of Confederation 1781-1789,

there were no federal laws, " as such " . All acts of the " United States

in Congress Assembled " [the proper name of the central government

under the ARTICLES] were enforceable only thru the 13 States'

authorities. So there were 13 states and their sovereign powers to

honor the terms and conditions of the ARTICLES, which document was

really an interstate " treaty of friendship " as constitution.

>

> ARTICLES Enacted, then Ratified as

signed

 

 

 

 

& nbsp;

 

 

 

> In early December 1777, each of the 13 States received copies of

the proposed ARTICLES and an explanatory letter of transmittal from

the Congress, dated November 17, 1777. This package was not sent

until November 28th, by which date the Lancaster, PA printer had made

sufficient copies for distribution. In turn, each State government

proceeded, each at its own pace, to draft a bill for enactment of the

ARTICLES as State law. The resulting drafted bill was considered

prospectively as a two-fold enactment to become a Law of the State.

The two parts were:

>

> [1] an Act of accession to, and approbation of, certain proposed

Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union among the several

States of the United States of America, and

>

> Maryland enacted this on February 2,

1781

 

>

> [2] to authorize the delegates of the State to the Continental

Congress, subsequent to the above's enactment, to ratify the same on

the part and behalf of the State, in the Congress of the United

States.

>

> Maryland's delegation of two, Daniel Carroll and John Hanson,

signed on behalf of their State on March 1, 1781

>

> Articles of Confederation & Perpetual

Union:

>

> Enactment Dates: ARTICLES became State law this day

>

> [#1-r] Virginia ratified December 15, 1777

> [#2-r] South Carolina ratified February 5, 1778

> [#3-r] New York ratified February 16, 1778

> [#4-r] Rhode Island ratified February 18, 1778

> [#5-r] Connecticut ratified February 19, 1778

> [#6-r] Georgia ratified February 26,

1778

> [#7-r] New Hampshire ratified March 4, 1778

> [#8-r] Pennsylvania ratified March 5, 1778

> [#9-r] Massachusetts ratified March 10, 1778

> [#10-r] North Carolina ratified April 25, 1778

> [#11-r] New Jersey ratified, Nov 20, 1778

> [#12-r] Delaware ratified Feb 1, 1779

> [#13-r] Maryland ratified February 2, 1781

>

>

> Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Cosmologer,

>

> Thank you for this post about the nature of the events in this time

period.

>

> I believe that the very name of the Feb 2, 1881 event summarizes

perfectly,

> " Articles of Confederation and PERPETUAL UNION, " the finality of

all

> previous supportive efforts and the birth of the nation. As you and

the good

> professor have addressed very recently to Ron Day's post, the chart

must

> match the entity, previous significant events and trends, and most

> importantly hold true for future predictions for confirmation. Only

the

> latter remains from what we have tested and analyzed so far. Your

relentless

> quest may be at an end in a few months.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

> -

> " cosmologer " <cosmologer

> <SAMVA >

> Sunday, January 21, 2007 4:22 PM

> Revolutionary war and the birth of America

>

> Dear list members,

>

> In exploring the correspondances of Benjamin Franklin and also time

> lines of popular history webs it becomes apparent that the US was

> born at a time of great turmoil.

>

> The Revolutionary War raged from 1775 to 1783. It began on 18 April

> 1775, when Massachussetts Governor,General Gage, " issued 700 British

> soldiers to Concord to destroy the colonists' weapons depot " . That

> night, Paul Revere and William Dawes were sent from Boston to warn

> colonists. Revere reached Lexington about midnight and warned Samuel

> Adams and John Hancock who were hiding out. On 11 April 1783, eight

> years from the start, the US Congress officially declared an end to

> the Revolutionary War.

>

> In the midst of this epic struggle, the Articles of Confederation

and

> Perpetual Union were conceived by the political leaders of the then

> independent colonies or states in 1777. A " united, sovereign and

> national state " was finally born on February 2, 1781 in Annapolis,

> Maryland, when the Governor of Maryland, Thomas Sim Lee, affixed his

> signature to the document approving the formal ratification of the

> agreement.

>

> Interestingly, it becomes apparent in the letters of Benjamin

> Franklin to Governor Lee in December 1780 and in early February

1781,

> that he was mainly concerned with their united goal to successfully

> prosecute the war and rid the country of the English. Perhaps this

> sense of common destinty was what motivated the Marylanders to sign

> with such seal and to find the hour that signalled such a glorious

> destiny. Certainly, the belated decision of Maryland to approve the

> Articles was a signal moment, which marked the birth of the nation

at

> a time of conflict. Historians have remarked, even if the states,

> under the leadership of George Washington, were losing some battles,

> the war allowed the independent States to continue to operate and

> provide more armaments to the American militia who despite the

losses

> pressed on in the independence struggle. In the background was the

> political work to organise the new United States as the American

> leaders actively prosecuted - and ultimately won - the war. The

> efforts to form the union and to win the war went hand in hand. One

> could not have gone without the other.

>

> Best regards,

>

> C

 

> Have a burning question? Go to Answers and get answers from

real people who know.

>